What's its new little name, BMSC4KP or BMSCP ?

@mansatv

2 жыл бұрын

BMSC4KP, the more harder it is to say, the more blackmagic design it is.

You guys are amazing! This was a proper review bro! Great information!

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you !

Extremely valuable as usual! I've been watching your channel for a while now, and I like how you provide value in your content as much as in your production. Keep up the great work! I don't understand the interest in keeping the mft mount for studio cameras, having done all kind of live production it's clear to us that B4 is the way to go unless you plan on bringing a whole range of accessories to help you better control zoom/focus on all mft lenses..it won't be comparable.

I'm surprised I've never heard of this camera before. Turns out that TV production is a whole different world.

@kookkrack99

2 жыл бұрын

you and me my brother

Amazing! Thanks for this thorough review. Still waiting on ours :)

This is so dope. I learned a lot enjoyed the video as well. You are a great teacher. 📸

Merci pour la review, thanks for the review !

Thanks for the review!

Excellente review. Merci beaucoup, tu as tout dit !!

Wow. That's great. I will need one. And i love the way u explained it. Is explicit 👍

Thank you for a great review!! Ex. zoom motor and B4 adapter would be awesome!

Great video man

just found this channel. The moment i saw you i just subscribed.

Great review! When is the live production comin?

man u r back💥🤛👍

Awesome! Thank you!

Nice work, thank you.

Great video!

Très bonne review ! Merci beaucoup !!!👍 Love from Paris 🇨🇵

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Merci !

Great review. Lots of good information. It is the camera I have been waiting for, but the lack of lenses available worries me. Interesting thought about the zoom motor, I did wonder why they are shipping the base plate for rods.

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! Yes, we were wondering as well

Good work dude

Awesome Job bro...Excellent review

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks !

Nice review

Awesome & Thanks :)

Thanks for information🙏🏻

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you !

Wow I like this camera ❤️

Thank you very much for this Video. May I ask, if you had the chance to test the autofocus a little further? I wonder how good - or if at all - the camera could track an object or person in front of it. Would it be possible to have it in a scenario like a one-man show where it would be not operated? Could it be set to somethong like "focus on neares object"? I would be very interested in these answers. Thank's again

This review was incredible. That earned a Subscribe and Like for sure! What tripod are you using? We grabbed this camera and want to make sure we get the right tripod setup as well.

Hey, Amazing review! As for the B4 lens, I have seen that the vignetting basically disappears when you use the lens only in x2 mode for MFT cameras. Was this the case with the Studio 4K camera?

Great review indeed.

Love your content

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Super camera

Great review! I have used a B4 YJ20x8.5 lens with 2 x extender and a fotodiox adaptor on almost 80 streams and recordings with amazing results. Of course i used with the lens, support and manual focus wire. I did this with the Pocket 4k. Tomorrow i get the studio pro. For me is the bigger screen and sdi output a must...got already reading glasses 3.0 plus. We work with vmix and not atm. We gonna find out if we get tally work on it. For talkbak we use wireless hollyland system. The work is do varius from talkshows to concerts and the parfocal on the B4 lens is very welcome. About the lens.., you need to have luck if you buy one. I have a SD version but i found out that they also sold back in the days as HD lens. Because only in the factory was a slide differences in sharpness and even not visible for the eye. But it saves a ton of money. For the sweetspot set the B4 lens on 4.0 stop. Of course a photolens is sharper but with the streams we never use 4k...its not possible with the hdmi output and the stream downgrade it anyway. But i have so mush advantage because i can zoom en make dynamic slides. Its the main feature why i did so many streams instead of static shots. But you have a good channel and lots of good info...greetings from The Netherlands

What a great review. I've been searching for battery options for this camera... Can you help?

Still an amazing job on the demonstration

Can the camera record RAW via USB-C at the same time while passing out a SDI signal to an ATEM or Hyperdeck? I would figure yes, but would like confirmation. Thanks! Good video.

I have a B4 Lens attached w/adaptor to my GH5s. Love it ! So, I share your idea of promoting B4 lenses to fit the BMSC 4K Pro. I would gladly attach my existing B4 lens to it.

You are V E R Y smart! great video!

BMD external zoom motor is essential to use MFT lenses in broadcast style :)

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed !

Would Middle Things allow you to control the camera settings using the Davinci Speed Editor? Cheers!

As always from you old chap (AKA Zebrazone) - a very good well balanced piece - thank you... John M Sadly BMD have (as of yet) failed to provide either a B4 or EF mount option on this product, which is a great pity IMHO - the 4 screws holding the MFT mount might hopefully mean that this is a possible future option? Otherwise it will mean a third party adapter will be the way forward?

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! Oh actually we did take off those 4 screws, but the part didn't come off, so it's not designed to be changed. But the space on the body around the MFT sensor could mean another version could be coming ! EF isn't really an issue since you can use a speedbooster and focus / iris control should still work. But B4.... yes, let's hope for an adaptor !

HEY MAN! THIS VIDEO IS SICK!!! YOU GUYS ARE AN AWESOME BRAND AND DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO BUYING PRODUCTS FROM YOU GUYS!! BUT.... I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND WOULD LOVE IN THE INFO ON HOW TO MAKE THAT "DIY TALKBACK ADAPTER"!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW YOU DID IT LOL!

How smooth is the zoom and focus? Can you let me know what lens are compatible fro the zoom?

I totally agree, a external zoom motor would be very great and useful ! ;)

@renatomorichetti4374

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe MiddleThings is going to develop such an external zoom motor? Maybe together with DJI as with the gimbal you already have this feature!? Those 4 Electronic zoom lenses are NOT an option for me - then i would better invest in a DJI Gibmal and Middle Things APC-R instead of the BM Zoom and Focus Demand. How do you see that? Possible solution?

HELLO can i use a lut with this camera while its in a live streaming set up,if so where do i get luts ,how do i install them

Yes Please! Wow

I would like to see you you the back boom wireless transmitter from the camera to the Switcher demonstrate how that works too

Are either of the lenses suggested controllable by the camera? As in zoom and Focus with the added Zoom demand and Focus Demand?

Thank you for this video. Quick question for you. I have a sony a7siii and I need a second camera for an additional angle. Its for a home studio for a youtube channel. I also just bought an Atem mini extreme iso. I have the choice of getting another sony camera of lesser value or a BMPCC like the 4k or 6k. Would would you suggest? Do you think the black magic could go well with the sony? Thank you!

The Zoom and Focus demands are great in theory, but the big issue with the zoom demand is compatibility. So far the only lenses I have found that aren't discontinued are: The Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 and the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm f/4-5.6. Its weird that they would put out a product with such a narrow range of compatible lenses. You'd really need a servo zoom motor to take advantage of the MFT range.

@DavidMorseMusic

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The three power zoom lenses for MFT are hot garbage. BMD should go with E mount. Some great power zoom lenses from Sony.

Maybe Midle Things can make a solution for other zoom lenses? I hope for a zoom motor from Blackmagic but i don’t think they will.. Could you make something like that?

very exclusive thanks genius

Hi! Have you tried any v-mount batteries and adapters? what are the best options?

Great review - now, please tell me that camera is light enough to work with the Ronin RS2 on a long term basis - that would mean I wouldn't have to go down the Birddog NDI route.

I can see that the Olymppus 12-100 has a good zoom range. I have the Panasonic H-HSA35100 F2.8 II ASPH 35-100mm but it is not the same range. Before i buy the Olympus , i want to know if it is better.

If I wanted to record ISO's of each camera feed without forking out for a tonne of storage space, would I be able to take feeds from my Constellation 8k, and output a feed of each camera into the ATEM ISO SDI and switch a live show at the same time? Would this confuse the ATEM Software control (running two 'switchers' at the same time), could this be manipulated through Adam Tows MixEffect Application?

Hello, have a good time... I have a Blackmagic Studio Camera 4K pro and a Canon CN-E18-80mm T4.4 L IS KAS S lens But the lens is not connected to the camera Please tell me what conversion you used to connect this lens to the Blackmagic Studio Camera 4K pro? thank you

I love your review...

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

HI, INEED CONTROL ZOOM & FOCUS FOR Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 12-35mm which one would you recommend?

We wan’t to be able to do live recordings in 4k. Right know we use black magic pocket 4k camera’s and the atem mini with a limit to live recording in HD. What’s do we need to make 4k possible?

What beef or lens was you using on that camera and wet Zoom range was it was it a Canada fujinon

*starts the engines on his a320* "You can also bring up the zebra"

Hey there, very nice video! did i got it right, so the 12-100mm Olympus lens supports a zoom servo internal ?

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The 12-100 does not have any zoom servo built in

Great video! One question, If you use HDMI fiber cables, can you control the camera from ATEM?

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Yep !

@NewGenerationStudio

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiddleThings We have a system with ATEM MINI EXTREME ISO, with HDMI fiber cables and a few GH5's and we are planning to get some new cameras and I was wondering if the control over HDMI fiber will work. Thank you!

18:14 Hi i was unable to use the camera control features using the atem Studio hd and the bmpcc6k, unless i'm wrong can you tell me where i went wrong? from my research the pocket cameras only work with the atem mini , as in camera control , tally features. i tried it on my friends atem mini pro and focus, zoom, color correction all worked on first try. plugged it to my Atm Studio HD and all i could do was switch between cameras. no tally, no camera control. I'm hoping it a firmware update fixable issue. but i'm open to advice.

Would this the correct lens for the 4kpro Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 Pro Lens, for Micro Four Thirds Cameras? I just want to make sure that I am ordering the correct lens based on you information

Thanks for the review! Have a question: which MFT lenses could be used with zoom and focus accessories. Couldn’t find the lens from the Blackmagic presentation.

@IOPvideo

2 жыл бұрын

Any lens with Autofocus would work with the Focus demand. As far as the Zoom demand, there are only two as far as I know that are compatible: The Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 and the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm f/4-5.6 ASPH

@Lugges

2 жыл бұрын

The one featured in the presentation is the Olympus M.Zuiko ED 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3 EZ

Zebra guy has another channel. Awesome.

Same here... we would like a zoom motor from blackmagic. Is the Ronin RS 2 suited for that camera?

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

We'll make a video on that. We did manage to balance it with the RS2 but we had to remove the right handle, which means opening the body. If BM releases an updated micro studio 4K it will be even better !

Is the HDMI output less horrible than the bmpcc4k/6k ? that is still my deal-breaker... I cannot use them for live streaming, the HDMI output is really soft... especially unusable for wide shots

awesome

How to control zoom and focus?

The sensor is a lot smaller on the Studio version, depth of field won’t be the same, as well as low light capabilities. I don’t have the dimensions in mind though.

What is the best zoom broadcast lens can be used on this Blackmagic Design Studio Camera Pro that controlled from the camera itself

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

For the moment... none can really be properly controlled without expensive adapters & equipment

Does this camera have autofocus? If, so, How and where you can set it?

hi there,, could you recommend this camera for green screen live production (UE4/Aximmentry) - does anybody have some experience? thanks in advance

I found a proper adapter to B4 lenses but it costs more than the camera. It is the MTF one. It has a lens corrector for the vignetting but it is terribly expensive. I have 4 of those but I am having problems justifying to use use it in broadcast purposes due to the poor choices of lenses...

Anyone figure out if you can playback media directly on camera. How can I preview what I’m recording. Clients want to see when we break

I saw you first in your channel.You dont upload anymore?

Hi guys! I wonder if it would be possible to simply connect an hdmi converter to the ethernet cable of the BCM studio camera 4k pro, to get a video signal on my extreme... The flow would be... Studio Camera Pro Ethernet -> Converter to HDMI -> atem mini extreme. Thus eliminating the high cost of Hyperdeck Studio. It's possible? can anybody help me?

What lenses would be good for the new Blackmagic Design Studio Camera Pro 4K for for big concert events in huge Church filming for long distance

@shanevaughan3176

2 жыл бұрын

I use the lumix Leica lenses. 8-18, 12-60, and 50-200. They’re super sharp and with all three you cover a massive range from super wide to super telephoto. Only downside is they are expensive.

@chicosproductions87

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanevaughan3176 Can zoom and focus be controlled with these lenses?

@shanevaughan3176

2 жыл бұрын

@@chicosproductions87 you’d have to have an operator on each lens to be able to zoom and focus. They are fully auto in the sense that they have continuous autofocus, but they won’t work like a PTZ.

I hope they will release some kind of motors to control a decent zoom lens (Fujinon's MK series poped up in my mind), but also I still don't want to give up the thought that they will come up with a lens like Fujinon's UA80x9BESM but in extra small ... 😬

This thing has ALMOST everything. If only they had Zoom and Focus attachments! It is SOOO close to perfect... one more attachment and we might have a winner... I would love to have the DZOFilm 10-24 on this thing!

@veryboringname.

2 жыл бұрын

Zoom and focus attachments? As in external controllers? They do have the Focus Demand and Zoom Demand controllers. Pretty cheap too.

Blackmagic makes zoom and focus demands for use on the studio camera. But there are entirely TWO Olympus lenses that feature electronic zoom. And the only zoom at one speed on those Olympus lenses. Again- without a B4 mount and the 7-speed ramping zoom lens attached to the front, BMD is not going to sell very many zoom controls for the Studio camera, and then they'll discontinue the controls- essentially fueling the failure of their own accessories.

@8:37 The color accuracy of the Pro is more accurate, to my eye.

Can you extract the talkback audio in software rather than hardware? Finding it hard to see any documentation on this 😔

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome. Not sure it's possible at this stage

19:00 What are the 4 micro four thirds lenses that have zoom servos built in? I've purchased zoom and focus demands for 3 Blackmagic Studio Camera 4K Pro's and now trying to figure out what lenses will work with the zoom and focus demands. Thank you for your help in advance!

@tomato1417

2 жыл бұрын

Not real great options really. I'm looking as well, and these are all I could find. Out of the 4 I found only 3 are still made----------: Panasonic LUMIX G X Vario Power Zoom Lens, 45-175mm, F4.0-5.6 ASPH., Micro Four Thirds, POWER Optical I.S. - H-PS45175K. Panasonic LUMIX G X Vario Power Zoom Lens, 14-42mm, F3.5-5.6 ASPH., Micro Four Thirds, POWER Optical I.S. - H-PS14042S. Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 EZ Lens MFR # V314070BU000. Olympus M.Zuiko ED 12-50mm f3.5-6.3 EZ - No longer available

@urielcastellanos916

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, did you figured out which lenses the zoom and focus works well with the BM accesories? Thanks man

Just wondering if you used a B4 Lens with a 2X converter built-in would that fix the vignetting? Just bought 4 of these cameras and looking for other lens options.

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the 2x converter fixes the vignetting, but the problem is that the converter reduces the light and the sharpness … not great

@JodyKoewe

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiddleThings If you put it on f4 its no problem at all...i film with a college and he has a fx9 with the 24 - 105 4k lens...we have the same output if you use it only on 1080p...but even then i did recordings on 4k with the B4 and in post a little tiny sharpness on it...bam. But for 9 out of 10 ...it works for the streaming. But you have to have luck with the B4 lens...read my post for explain.

Unfortunately you did not talk about one of the biggest weakness of the studio cameras (and Blackmagic in general): autofocus. We have the old studio cameras and basically you have to manually focus everything. Otherwise it is a great review. Thanks for the sample footage and the lens recommendation.

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Sure ! It's definitely not perfect, but there is a step forward between the autofocus of the old studio cameras and the new ones. You can try the BMPCC 4K autofocus, it will give you a good idea since it's the same as the Studio Pro 4K. It's still not Sony style continuous autofocus though.

@Morpheus170

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiddleThings Big let down! How do you follow moving objects?

These cameras are almost exclusively used with b4 lenses, in fact some of your broll had box b4 mount lenses on the camera. You simply engage the doubler.

@JodyKoewe

2 жыл бұрын

Thats true! and amazing results..read my post :)

What powered zoomed lenses in m4/3 do you know of? i’ve only found 3...

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Yes there are only 4 on the market. Best option is to use non powered zoom lenses ( just focus ) . There are plenty more. And let's just hope for a future external Focus Motor

@FLHCUT

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MiddleThings can you list them? I only found the Olympus M.Zuiko ED 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3 EZ. but i think image quality is not that good. maybe they will realse a motor and we could use the MK lenses

@PeterVCook

2 жыл бұрын

@@FLHCUT The longest one I have found is the "Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm". In the name "PZ" stands for Power Zoom.

Woah, this reminds me a lot of Zebrazone, nice!

@desmondmacnamara6068

2 жыл бұрын

Lol my first thought as well

@nickobergshow

2 жыл бұрын

This is Thibaud from Zebra Zone right!?

@MrCoffis

Жыл бұрын

Same guy 😂

What tripod would you recommend for the camera?

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Sachtler Ace M/XL works great ! But if you plan to have both Zoom And Focus demand you need to consider a tripod that can have two telescopic bars, not just one

What lenses are you using on the Blackmagic Studio Pro that can be controlled from the camera

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly the Olympus 12-100. Almost all micro four thirds lenses that have a focus motor built in can be controlled by the camera (lens + iris). If you want zoom too, there are only 4 and they are not great

@Morpheus170

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiddleThings Why is the camera not letting press on the screen for focus with this lens?

Is this a new product buddy? Newer than 6k pro?

Does it work with DZOFilm DZO 20-70mm T2.9 MFT Parfocal Cine Lens?

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

I see no readon why it wouldn't since it's an MFT Lens

Isn’t this the zebra zone? New name or new channel? Great info as always regardless.

Bonjour, as-tu utilisé l’adaptateur Fotodiox B4 magic pour ta lentille B4?

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Oui c'est celui là !

@francoisbeausejour2382

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiddleThings donc il vignette parce que le sensor est plus gros que les Micro Studio.... Ça prendrait un produit fabriqué spécifiquement pour cette caméra alors.

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

@@francoisbeausejour2382 Oui il en faudrait sans doute un custom.

You can easily use a B4 ENG lens on the camera. Just need the right adaptors. I use a 4-pin XLR power to B4 power and XLR split. So the BM Studio camera and lens are powered up in one cable. Using an IBE HDX1.4 to convert B4 to MFT mount. Unfortunately you still don't get CCU control of the iris, since the camera and lens still can't communicate. It's still a great low-cost alternative to the URSA Broadcast.

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't know that ! Vrey cool. The IBE HDX1.4 is around $2000 though

@TheBjray

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiddleThings Yeah unfortunately. BM could make thier own proper B4 to MFT but I guess that would eat into ursa sales

An extra $895 for the studio converter, extremely disappointing. NDI +POE solutions are becoming much more affordable. BMD missing the mark here... $1795 for MFT camera + $895 converter + $999 lens. A 4 camera studio going to start at $12,000, and that's without a switcher --- BirdDog and PTZ Optics are laughing IMO.

@MiddleThings

2 жыл бұрын

You are comparing the uncomparable. A Birdog 4cam kit, will cost more than $10,000 as well. For PTZ cameras that are really bad as soon as you add a little bit of gain.The all in one solutions you are mentionning are surely a bit easier to set up, but the quality is absolutely uncomparable, not even talking of NDI compression of an image that has a poor SNR ratio and high visible or invisible noise. And Blackmagic often introduces substantial price drops from time to time. So it all depends on the usecase, the audience of the live show / podcast etc..

@mediazonestudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiddleThings charging an extra $895 for POE isn't comparable?

@enregistreur

2 жыл бұрын

@@mediazonestudios POE, 12G SDI in and out, teleprompter feed, talkback, tally... All in all, it's not *that* costly, I guess.

@ThisIsLeeBird

Жыл бұрын

The studio converter adds a crap ton of features. Gives you more outputs, you can run the program feed back to the camera and actually send it out of the hdmi on the camera to a teleprompter or TV just below the camera. Tally, talkback andTimecode is the huge one for me. I added an ATEM SDI extreme ISO just to use one of the outputs to record iso feeds into that. It’s amazine