I chose B all the ways as well, beautiful contrast and clarity in all the images. Appreciate the effort in making this info available, well done!

Honestly, In this case think that proper exposure and lens used has more effect on the image, rather than the the image sensor. Back in the film days it sure did matter what type of film we were using. Anyway the person operating the camera makes the difference. A talented and skilled photographer makes way better pictures with his smartphone, compared to an average one with a Leica.

I found it strange that you chose the standard monochrome with the Fuji when I suppose most people who shoot monochrome on a Fuji shot the Acros simulation.

@stanleeger4711

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The Acros is usually best.

@lefthandright01

4 жыл бұрын

Acros has a stepper gradient to its tone curve in the high lights than monochrome. It makes all the samples more comparable.

@rodfeher

4 жыл бұрын

Acros all the way

@rolandrickphotography

4 жыл бұрын

david neville , that’s exactly what I wanted to reply to Calvin. You’re first 🙌

@therealjoetoole

4 жыл бұрын

I shoot with standard monochrome as well. At first, it was Acros all the way. Then, I noticed that I wasn't so happy with high ISO shots in Acros.(3200, and above) Loss of detail, and sometimes too much grain. Fortunately, for what I like, standard B&W looks very good. I shoot it 'flat'; shadows=0, highlights=0, and no colour filter. The first image in this set was shot with those settings. www.tamedmonkey.com/concert-shots It's straight out of camera, other than a slight crop.

I chose C all the way and ended up shocked....being a Leica fan and user for over 40 years!

@okamivolgan

3 жыл бұрын

same here but i don't have leica and never liked sony pictures lol

@andreasgraeter564

3 жыл бұрын

...same to me, chosed mostly C, knowing, that it's Sonys Fullframe sensor....

@herbertmasing

Ай бұрын

same, but being a fuji fan..

I chose B all the way. But the difference doesn't justify the price point. I would like to see the results using the ACROS in the Fujifilm, because is such a beautiful thing.

@davidmcc6666

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, mate. I shoot Acros with a little heavier shadow. Or else I use Nix software.

@philipae27

4 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought. Love Acros

@LucasRodmo

4 жыл бұрын

@@philipae27 ikr

@LucasRodmo

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidmcc6666 ACROS all the way

@patrickbailey1393

4 жыл бұрын

Me too i picked B also but i have a fuji and shoot acros not including it doesnt really show what fuji can do With acros my shots look much better than the fuji shots shown here.

Just saved me about $7K. Thanks.

@mauroangelantoni6889

4 жыл бұрын

just for the body...

@barrycohen311

4 жыл бұрын

@@mauroangelantoni6889 Just for the lens hood you mean. :-)

@namesashhousewares8337

4 жыл бұрын

David Woods as if you would have bought it in the first place 😂

@ductritran8637

4 жыл бұрын

David Woods Save you much more than 7k . The combination of Leica M10 monochrom and the summilux 35mm is more than $20,000 compare to fujifilm Xt3 and 23mm 1.4 is about 3k .

Leica M10 and XT3 files look extremely similar, all Sony shots were easy to guess, they look flat and with blown highlights.

Honestly, I had to do so much careful looking to see any real difference between any of them. I also had no clear preference for any one camera. That in itself is *very* instructive - it means I wouldn't be any happier with Leica's results than I am with my X-T3. Now whether the Leica is a better shooting experience, that's not something I'm likely to find out (can't afford one!).

Great idea btw ! I picked B mostly ! Do you have a link to the full res of the comparison files ? It would be great to go through them at full res on a larger screen (not a small smart phone lol) Thanks !

very impressed with the Fuji results plus, good to know that "Steven Buscemi" does photography videos as well

@AmikYoungDon

4 жыл бұрын

It's Steve bro lol

Once it got to the portrait B really stood out. For the price, the Fuji and Somy really held up. Would be interesting to try this with the same sumi lens adapted on all three. I bet the difference would shrink even more.

@mattbray_studio

8 ай бұрын

agree that the portrait was considerably better on B. most fo the rest i actually preferred A

I coudn't make any difference just by watching the video at the normal speed ! So, I keep my XT3.

Thanks, super interesting, choosing mostly A, some B no C. May we download the images to pixel peep? How did you compensate depth of field on the close up subjects? Stopping down the full frames 1 ⅓ stop?

I chose mostly A and B, C had a bunch of blown highlights. But it’s hard to tell on a screen, was surprised the Fuji and Leica seemed to have similar dynamic ranges on screen. I use Sony cameras but the highlights were definitely blown, which is why with Sony you have to shoot raw and covert to mono later.

I like A, though to have a monochrome Leica is always my dream.

That was interesting. I chose NONE of the Leica versions but almost all the Sony ones. Odd because I use, and love, my Fujifilm X-T3. Hmmmmmmm.

Hi, I’m looking for a in camera picture profile for Sony A7riv that will give be a Leica Monochrome look ?

I did guest B most of the time for Leica images. The contrast and the sharpness was the leica characteristic.

@michaelhatton9136

4 жыл бұрын

Same

Cool test of which I set out to try and ID the M10M camera and I managed 4 of 6 images. The last 2 images is where I stumbled. Depending on the scene, one can really see the difference of the Mono sensor. Thanks, really enjoyed this video!

I didn't quite catch that they would be the same camera throughout so the Fuji and Sony got varied guesses but I seemed to pick out the Leica. There must be something a little extra to it. The fact it's much higher resolution by default probably helps (watched in 1440p) but there's something about the tones that did translate as well.

They're all good. Every one of them can be tweaked a bit in post to look just like one of the others. All it really comes down to is personal preference. FWIW, I shoot B&W exclusively. With a Fuji X-T2, and Fuji X100F, but the reasons why aren't addressed just by looking at the images. I really prefer Fuji's straight out of camera jpegs, I like having autofocus, and I really like Fuji's electronic viewfinder.

I've submitted a photo to the BnW contest but I 've put the wrong email address. how can i change it?

Questions: Were the monochrome images default profile in each camera? I guess Leica can shoot monochrome raw files, however the other two use jpgs by default if you want an in camara b&w. Final thought, as the difference is negligible between Fuji and Leica (Sony blows out the highlights), is it better to shoot the Fuji in Raw, and then to use a b&w LR profile? When you do that you even can use your RGB channels to fine tune your images, not so when you upload an already b&w jpg.

I picked "A" for most of the photos. "B" for two and "C" came last in all samples. Thanks, this was very interesting.

@monsieurlee8885

4 жыл бұрын

Same!

@w.harrison7277

4 жыл бұрын

OMFG, Did you not see the three dimensionality of B? It was in every image set. The whole video is like a sales pitch for Leica.

straight A's!. I was a little nervous but now happy I went the Fuji way!

I choose A, and seems consistent with my own experience shooting B&W on my Fujifilm cameras. I mainly prefer the Fuji’s rendering of the skies.

I’m surprised that I liked more of the Sony pictures, seeing as I shoot fuji; but I do edit my fuji shots, so I prob don’t like out-of-camera results

@mrz1342

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best advantage of Fuji cameras!

I get pretty good B+W using Olympus - They should be in the test as well At the moment I'm using the original EM5 but the Pen F does better, especially in Mono Mode 2. Bring it back Olympus!

I mostly chose the Leica M10 with a couple of times going with the X-T3. The A7iii was usually third.

Well, it's pretty easy to guess judging from the sharpness (the zoomed in section, the Leica is sharper because of the 40mpx resolution).

@michaelascher2693

4 жыл бұрын

Fritzkier Its about the 40Mp and the Lens that outperformes the other lenses by miles.. So the comparison is not fair at all.

I picked mostly A & B. The difference is negligible given the difference in price. Wonder why some of the A7III shots looked a bit overexposed. The one shot where I thought the Leica really stood out was the portraits. Nice deep tones.

@billybobtexas

2 жыл бұрын

exactly. the Leica looked so interesting on the portraits not sure why? but it did.

beginner question: should I shoot directly in bnw or colour and only after turn it into bnw via lightroom?

@slickhatter9812

3 жыл бұрын

Your raw files in a color sensor will always be in color, if you set your camera to bnw you will see in monochrome in EVF which is great for a real time assessment of the contrast and tonality. You will need to convert the raw files to bnw in your editing software

Most of my choices were C. A lot of people are in agreement that the $7k Monochrome price tag is beyond what people are willing to spend for a dedicated BW camera. Thanks for the video. I’m sure this saved people a lot of money! 💰👍

Are these processed photos or straight out of camera? I could not see any differences between sample photos.

@digiDirectAustralia

4 жыл бұрын

All images are straight out of camera

If you know the three brands, it was pretty obvious which was which. I began photography shooting B&W film, and I loved the pictures from the M10 Mono (the tones look "right"). Do I love it enough to spend that much money when my a7R III can do a decent job? Probably not.

We appreciate the effort but it's impossible to make a serious judgment from KZread. Can we download the files? Or maybe you guys can upload on Fliker? Thank you

I can’t do these blind tests. When I see the Leica M Monochrome as a gallery, I’m blown away by the tonal range, subtlety of grays, resolution, etc. The Fujis are softer than the other two. It would be better for me to see all the A’s, then all the B’s, then all the C’s. It takes a while for my eyes to open up to the sensor environment. Really it’s not about quick, first impressions. Also, the lens makes a huge difference. It’s pretty amazing to see what happens to a Fuji with great Leica glass attached. On another note, I understand Daniel Morrison B&W conversions of Sony A7Rii are pretty darn close to Leica Monochrome-easily the next best thing. I may try to convert my Nex6 which is just sitting around (since I hate Sony color anyway). For me (low fixed income) I would have to decide to only shoot digital B&W to even entertain the thought of owning the Leica-but would probably go back to film if that were the case. 8x10 film images blow every single alternative out of the universe, including $10K medium format digital.

All three very nice, but the B images were a cut above the others... I guess that is good for the price! Much harder to focus that thing though... did you find it more difficult to get good focus on the rangefinder?

Why no DNG/RAW? Why no 100% crop for the Leica?

Vielen Dank für diesen tollen Test!

It would be great if the RAWs were posted. I like the methodology taken and am curious about the differences. but the differences are not going to come across in a video (esp. KZread). All cameras compared are excellent performers, so the differences are going to be in the finest of details (likely lost to video compression). Also, the notes say "a 35mm lens on each camera" was used but was the same lens on each camera (adapted), or a least the same make and model? And what lens or lenses?

This video made me love my Fujifilm even more :D

I chose mostly A or B, with C often overexposed. I would like to see this mono comparison: Fuji Acros, Olympus Pen F Mono #2, Lumix L. Monochrome D - all tend to lean to greater contrast. Hard to tell true sharpness with YT compression.

I could tell which was which having owned 2 of the 3 cameras. for the best part the differences are subtle yet obvious. I could tell straight away which set the Sony was. it just looks a little flatter. The fuji and Leica are remarkably close, but the real difference was noticed in the portrait. The Leica just takes the edge with its dynamic range. A Leica is my dream camera, however I am more then happy to stick with the Fuji as bang for buck its possibly the best camera on the market

Great Video!

I loved the As and was pleasantly surprised it was a Fuji. I don't own the system, but to think that the Leica would not please me aesthetically leaves no doubt in my mind that I am not missing out on anything.

I actually liked the Sony in some of the shots, but boy, the XT-3’s monochrome mode really feels just like the M10’s images in most cases in my opinion.

Thank you so much for your compare. You help me save a lot money, because I want to buy the M10 recently. lol

Selected B (3x), A (2x) and C, (1x). Can't help wonder if having recently purchased a Leica in which I'm shooting mostly B&W influenced my choices. Interesting, fun blind test.

Mostly A and B from time to time. Never C...

What surprised me the most was that none of the photos were sharp when zooming in. Interesting test. Thanks!

@digiDirectAustralia

4 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure, glad you got something out of it

All depend on the scene, on some the higher highligts of Sony complement more the shot. For portrait at the end, A and B have a nice balance and C dont come out as good. I found A a bit on the dark side on most of the shots. B have a overhall betted balance. For sharpness, they are all sharp enougth. At the end nothing that can't be tweeked in camera for your personal preferences.

Great video

I would never use a monochrome mode on any camera. You can do so much more by processing a RAW file in software.

@jlunch

3 жыл бұрын

The RAW files in the Monochrome are monochrome. The files are insane and shadow detail is unlike anything I’ve seen before. Just expose for highlights and as long as they’re not blown out, you can push these RAW files crazy hard

I couldn’t get the difference in most cases I thought images C were the Leica. To be honest Even if have the money I wouldn’t buy the monochrome camera

@zenden6564

4 жыл бұрын

dito

Interesting! I had C marked worst but couldn't decide between A and B.

except the first two i guessed the B for the Leica, you can see the higher resolution in the zoomed picture. If you have to pick it out only by the black and white it would be impossible for me to see the difference .

Gracias! La calidad de las tres cámaras es excelente. Muy díficil elegir.

I picked A, A, C B, B, A so it was a mix, each looked great, some seem to excel in a certain way. I have a Sony a7r 4 I was about to go do some b&w shooting. great video.

The exposure was sometimes different .

really really good test！

A comparison to the Fuji X100* would be interesting!

There were a few images at the beginning that I choose A or B near the end I was choosing B or C images B was consistently mostly chosen. I think the A B and C were switching between cameras. I'd love to own a Leica but its one of those things where They'd have to sponsor me with the camera and a couple of lenses :)

Really surprised as I have the Leica Mono 246. I chose mostly A - the Fuji. Really hard to decide on a smartphone screen. The best test would be comparing large prints but that’s impossible .....

B looked the sharpest consistently. C was 2nd so I was a bit bummed since A was the Fuji and I'm an X-T30 user, lol

I do know what you mean but to be far we are watching though KZread and I would bet there is very little difference they all be very good. To see any of these you need to see the prints. Not to mention the user experience and the Leica will be both the hardest to use but will give you the biggest sense of achievement if when or if you get it right. Great video thanks I hope your fires go way soon.

Thanks, an interesting and significant video, highlights the excellent quality and potential of the XT-3, and the equally A7lll of its high quality and versatility in all respects. Leica of a great past, a brand of all respect and unquestionable quality.

Is it fair to compare a 40Mp camera against 2 24Mp cameras? About the tests, I picked 3 from Leica, 2 from fuji and 1 from sony.

@okay5267

4 жыл бұрын

And plus never even mention the lens selection..... Pointless test.

Thank you for the video. The Leica M10 Monochrome differs from the previous monochrome Leicas, in that the previous models used a standard color sensor, with the filter array removed. This M10 Mono has an entirely new sensor that was designed as a monochrome only sensor, so the results should be noticeably sharper. Source: Leica website.

I have a Sony A7iii and an X-Pro1. I’ll definitely keep the X-Pro1 for black and white jpg straight of out camera. It’s magnificent

The Leica was obvious to spot in that line-up, but I wonder if it would be as easy to spot against a B&W render of a normal M10 image. How much of the quality came from the glass?

Sean, I would like to pick up on a remark you made that 'the Leica is the pinnacle of monochrome shooting'. I think you meant to say 'of digital monochrome shooting.' :)

I guessed correctly. Loved the XT-3. Sony didn’t come close but the Leica and Fuji were close until you zoomed where you could the bonus of having the extra megapixels.

I chose mostly photos from the leica, followed by the Fuji. The portrait taken with the leica was striking and really stood out. The sony lacked midrange tonality.

Thanks for your video. I found the Leica pictures very easily. But I’m not sure if it was the sensor or the lens itself. These pictures had the best sharpness. The tonality was less different then I thought. My conclusion is that I can buy any M and keep concentrating on the lenses. Cheers

I think the test is a bit off: I assumed C is the Leica M10M because this camera tends to overexpose the highlights if not underexposed a bit. It means that for some reason in this test the Sony shots were overexposed which you see especially in the first set.

BCA was my order of preference, B and C were really close, A was very soft in comparison and noticeable lower tonal range

I mainly picked the Leica versions with sometimes a close second to Sony. The slightly sharper look with a stronger contrast is my preference. I used to shoot Fuji but I would normally change to the stronger contrast look in post processing the raw image over using the SOOC jpg.

Differences may be more apparent when printing A3 or larger.

I picked B. But only just. Perhaps because I’m used to emulating a similar (not same) Leica M look with my Olympus OMD’s simply by selecting Low Key gradation and Contrast +1.

Cool test. I found A and B were really close and generally preferred C. But personally would toned that C set down just a touch.

I thought there was little between A & B but marginally preferred A and assumed incorrectly that was the Leica. On other videos its been the Leica and not Fuji that I've preferred and with more of an obvious difference but I think that was the Fuji X100V against the Leica Q2.

@JeevesTCW

2 жыл бұрын

Gone back and slightly prefer B to A .. but is it because I know its a Leica now :-o

I watched this video twice with the knowledge of knowing which was which. I don't see that much of a difference between these images that would bother me. I could change the contrast, highlight and shadow detail in Lightroom or Photoshop. I like the idea of various film emulsion choices on the FujifilmX-T3; although Lightroom has black-and-white presets. Now that I saw this test I could never justify spending that kind of money on a dedicated black-and-white camera. Since Leica has had success with there former monochrome camera, I believe they will succeed with this one. Even though I would not buy a camera like this it is a great camera and I pray for the success of Leica.

on all but 1 and 3 i chose a each time, for which i chose b went in totally blind, interesting to see that i picked fuji so consistently, and when i didn't it was for the only camera system i'd ever swap over too

I choose Camera A - the Fuji. No doubt. I've always wanted a Leica, but not so sure after this 😲

I understand using basic monochrome for Fuji for comparison, but I can't see an user preferring that to using Acros and the color chrome modes.

I picked Lecia and X-t3 equally in number. I am very impressed with the x-t3

You saved me $10k! Thx! 👍 I like Fujifilms profiles and monochrome settings. I also like/use OMD’s monochrome on my Pen-f! However, I still shoot B&W film in multiple formats also using Leica & Zeiss glass. I enjoyed this quick quiz- fun!

I surprised myself and guessed right all 3 sets fairly quickly. B all the way for me, except for the portrait shot, which I preferred from the Sony, it totally nailed focus on the nearest eye of the model.

I chose C from the first go. But it needs some editing to make it look the way the other two looked. It looked one stop brighter than the rest of the two. Also, it is sharper than the Leica's Pixel Heavy sensor in some photos. Also, the bokeh from the Sony A7iii and the Sony 35mm is out of the world.

Easy test. I keep looking at B as the nicest one. Sharpest one also

Just from the video.. I couldn't tell the difference between Fuji XT3 & Leica M10 Monochrome :) I like them , both :)

My gudge....xt-3 on all them. Now I know wish one to get 😊😊😊

Why there is no low light images set? This is strange

I preferred the images coming out of A and B over C for every set, mostly because C seemed over exposed with less details in the highlights. The result was that C always looked less contrasty. Between A and B I thought that B had the sharper image when zoomed in, the the shadows were crushed. For web publishing I'd prefer A, but for actual prints I feel like B or C (with better compensation for exposure) would be more ideal.

What a surprise, I had Sony first, then Fuji and the Leica. I would have expected a order the other way. Thanks for the video!! What is your favorit ?

I picked Leica 3 times, Fuji 2 times, and Sony once (F, L, S, L, L, F in image set order). They were often close, and it often came down mainly to which one had an overall tonal balance that I somewhat preferred, but at least on KZread probably not enough difference for me to consider adding a Leica to my Fuji X-H1 and X-T20 :)

I shoot black & white images with a Fuji X-Pro2 digital mirrorless with a Fujinon 23mm f/1.4 lens and a Leica M10 digital rangefinder with a Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 lens. The black and white images produced by my two cameras are very similar. I was not surprised that I thought the A images and the B images in your blind test were very similar. However, I was surprised that I preferred the Sony C images to the other two. To me, the whites in Fuji and the Leica images appeared to be too muddy. The Sony whites appeared to be cleaner or brighter.

I chose Fuji all the way, man am I pleased I bought one ok its a XT 30 but hmmm looking forward to it.

Very nice comparisson. Ive choose mostly B for its sharpness, but the Sony is slightly overexposured, what i like, because of the contrast. So my blindtest was: 1. all close together. C has the nicest contrast, b B the better sharpness 2. all close together, i choose A for overall look, B for sharpness(here i assumed, that A must be the Fuji) 3. looks all similiar for me. Nice photo from each camera 4. B for its sharpness C for contrast 5. B 6. B When i make photos in B/W, my focus is on sharpness. The contrast is something, you can adjust in the camera itself. I was a little bit dissappointed by the Fuji, cuz iv got a Fuji XT2 by my own. But you need to set the noise reduction on -2 and switch off the noise reduction on long term photos to get maximum sharpness.(in the other way its a little bit more blury to cancel the noice) The overall sharpness is the point, why i prefer the 35mm f/2.0 over the 35mm f/1.4 Fuji lens.