Check out this really cool design when you're done with this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/p3pm07xuc8-pZ5s.html

I freaking *_LOVE_* weird plane designs! YAY!

@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep

4 ай бұрын

Hell yeah! 😅

@SegoMan

3 ай бұрын

Search for Mike Patey's Scrappy & DRACO

Five weird planes and not a single Rutan design? Pretty impressive.

@aircraftadventures-vids

3 ай бұрын

Rutan planes deserve a dedicated video

@tinuvarun5806

10 күн бұрын

Whats rutan design

I actually really like that quirky little twin from Aus. The single-engine version just looked like a great little Cessna clone, but the twin has a ton of personality, and yeah, having the extra reliability of a twin in a country that's 98% desolate bush seems like a no-brainer, especially both small like that. Given the pods just hanging out in the air, it looks easy to work on, and like it'd sip fuel. That's exactly my level of oddball, with my first car having been a Suzuki Samurai, and my favorite car having been a second gen Toyota MR2. I've always loved things that are outside the box but in sensible ways. Also, that "flying moving van" from the UK looked pretty aerodynamic to me with that vertical teardrop profile. And the staggered wing design? Those can work _shockingly_ well for slow flight and extreme critical AoA operations. I bet their loiter time was bonkers! Sort of like that flying egg observation plane whose name eludes me at the moment. Some great little planes! I'm less sure about the advantage of driving two props off of one engine, though... it might balance _some_ torque, but the engine itself will still generate a roll torque, and those belts are just two more failure points, plus it doesn't look like it gets a lot of cooling or air back there inside the fuselage.

Interesting, for sure! Back in 1994/95 I had the opportunity to work on an experimental Thurston project, the Teal tricycle gear amphibian. TSC 1A3, I believe was the designation. Our example was almost complete when the company relocated, but I never saw it fly. Thanks for the video and stories!

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@kbjerke

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids I was also fortunate enough to speak with David on several occasion, on the phone, LOL

You forgot the "Quickie" and the "Quickie 2". These planes have their main landing gear AT THE TIPS OF THEIR WINGS!🤣

@aircraftadventures-vids

14 күн бұрын

Didn't forget - there's just too many to cover in a short video. Perhaps in new one...

Exactly, I love weird/experimental aircraft! Love the channel btw.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Thanks a ton!

Well, that was fascinating. Thanks for doing all that research and sharing these with us.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I love exquisite aircraft.

The Arup planes, from Indiana, 1930s ("Air" + "Up") The S-2 flew first as a glider, then with a 37hp ex "American Indian" police motorcycle engine. 780 lbs, it flew 85 knots, with landing speed below 18 knots. Would not stall. Video shows it to be nimble with amazing 45° climb rate. The S-4 was 1150 lbs, 2-seat side by side dual controls. Flew 100 kts on 70 hp. The S-3 performed well a few times, but was destroyed in a fire when it's shop was set on fire by arson, after tampering and possible sabotage had been noticed. Between the two, they flew several seasons at airshows, frequently carrying advertizing because nobody wanted to buy or invest despite the fact that they performed markedly better than "normal planes": they looked funny. The S-2 flew for NACA and the military at Langley (test pilot Glen Doolittle, cousin to the famous air racer Jimmy Doolittle). Charles Zimmerman was on the NACA group that examined it, and later he used the very-low aspect-ratio planform with it's super-slow stall-proof 40°nose-up approach as the starting point for his work on a VTOL Tail-sitter for Vought and the NAVY in the V-173. (NACA Tunnel tests with the V-173 showed that it didn't gain anything or particularly change anything with the overly complex wing-tip mounted props) In 2015 the Mid-Atlantic air museum in Pennsylvania reported that it had acquired the S-2 and it's awaiting restoration for display. The flying "Heel Lift" - Arup S2 Bomberguy nearly 2 minutes, but skip ahead to 48 seconds in for the video) kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKyuk7d_Zpqrgaw.htmlsi=dbyocU3baika_VOf Arup S-4 King Aero Aviation 2 minutes 48 seconds kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYymtaiPdMSZnbw.htmlsi=OctPp6l3jYWuclSp

@Marius2Rocker

2 ай бұрын

Americans do love their flapjacks

Loved the Aerovan. When one landed at Darwin (1970s) someone at our hangar said : "Nice packaging but it might look better out of the box"

I love the tiny cargo craft. They look like chibi versions of larger planes and carried surprising amounts of cargo.

@darthwiizius

3 ай бұрын

The Miles Aeroplane became more famous as Thunderbird 2.

Love odd looking aircraft. That was fun to watch, Thanks, Good video.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Good to see the Miles Aerovan get a mention here. As a young man my father worked for Miles aircraft and flew with their test pilot Tommy Rose. Miles were responsible for many innovative designs (the M52 being the most famous) and was another British company shafted by an inept short sighted Government obsessed with post war cost cutting.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I didn't really get deep into researching the politics but it sure sounded like a company with a bright future but under the wrong government.

@bobroberts6155

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids If you ever revisit the weird aircraft theme you need to look at the seriously strange Miles M.39B Libellula.

There's a NASA or NACA paper from years ago, which says that if you want to design a biplane, you *do not* put the wings right in the same vertical. You instead put the upper plane of the biplane wing 1 chord up, & 1 chord forward, then you tilt the lower plane so its trailing-edge 5-degrees down. That last plane you showed was an box-wing, and the stagger was right to put the upper plane forward, but the 2 planes were too close together, from the looks of it.

@johndemeritt3460

Ай бұрын

The Beech Staggerwing disagrees. It's a beautiful aircraft that flies extremely well!

Very fun video, and thought-provoking. Sort of a primer for anyone interested in aircraft design. Daydreaming doesn't cost much. I expect my wings will come from St. Peter someday.

I've always loved the quirky engineering that came out of South Africa and South America and maybe Australia in the 1950s thru 1980s. It was sad that this momentum didn't last. You saw this in aviation, but also in cars.... there was a lot of rugged practical designs that came into being on almost no capital and smallish markets. There was a lot of stuff that absolutely deserved to survive. The AeroVan at 5:20- imagine if that plane could be disassembled enough to fit in that pod- omg, you could have delivered a twin somewhere. I realize the solution would be to tow an assembled plane but still, it would be cool

Miles Aerovan's seaplane version is by far my favorite.👍

@6:45 looks like the "new" NASA/Boeing project . Very cool video!

here in Ushuaia, Tierra Del Fuego, Argentina. the Arava was used as a medical aircraft until recently

Thanks for sharing this, Juan. YOU ARE A GREAT DAD!

Sitting behind a Jabiru engine, you don't need anybody shooting at you to get you down

LOVED EVERY YOU SHOWED...ESPECIALLY THE SKYVANS..❤

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

The Skyvan only had a 2 second appearance but glad you like it!

@EdwardKelly-vi9sg

4 ай бұрын

@aircraftadventures-vids ...I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE FOOTBALL SHAPE....AND THE SKYVAN TYPE AIRCRAFT...TOO COOL 👍

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Ah yes the Arava and Aerovan. Both are pretty neat@@EdwardKelly-vi9sg

With the paint scheme and shadows, the plane at 3:14 looks so happy.

@johncunningham4820

Ай бұрын

The Dornier .

great music choice in addition to interesting aeroplanes!

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Congratulations! You found some planes I have never seen before (and I've been around almost as long as some of those designs LOL).

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! Mission accomplished 👍

Loved it man, really cool!!

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

That was great! I really enjoyed learning about those odd machines!

@aircraftadventures-vids

14 күн бұрын

More to come!

Surprising that the Areva isn’t more popular.

@aircraftadventures-vids

7 күн бұрын

Cessna Caravans do 75% what an Arava can at much lower cost.

That was interesting and Educative to watch thank you

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

I had several Citroen GS, hydraulic suspension spheres were a problem when they got older but while they worked they were great Amazing little fan cooled 1300cc OHC motor pushed a full size car to 110 mph, aerodynamics were obviously pretty good? Wasn't fastest accelerating but probably better than 1300cc VW Beetle's (I had a lot of flat fours, had several Alfa Romeo's after Citroen's)

I love that last one. If it could be built as a FAR-103 Ultralight, it might be fun to fly. I fly a 2003 Challenger, but I'd love to get into areas that I just don't quite feel comfy setting down in. Oh, have you heard of anyone using one of those "Toroidal Propellers" on an aircraft. Quad drones and boats I've seen but not Aircraft. I'd love one if they fly.

Check out the Piaggio Avanti, 2 turboprop pushers on skinny wings with canards on the nose and a T tail, its pretty sweet looking.

@aircraftadventures-vids

2 ай бұрын

I know when an Avanti takes off from our airport, can I hear it well before I see it.

The Miles Aerovan has been my weird crush for a long time. The Sea varient would have been perfect as a lake jumper here in Canada.

@aircraftadventures-vids

3 ай бұрын

Can't blame you! She's a beaut...

I got to see an Arava up close at Miami International Airport about 35 years ago. Cool little airplane.

@aircraftadventures-vids

24 күн бұрын

Interesting, might have been a demo plane? Company my dad worked for tried to sell them here in the US. I saw one flying out of a dirt strip in Argentina about 30 yrs ago, so cool.

The SuperGuppy's that hauled the Apollo/Saturn 5 rocket stages. Tillamook Air Museum in Tillamook Oregon had a SuperGuppy, right on the Oregon coast. They did have some WW2 radar blimp hangars there as well. Huge barns, with it's own weather system in the rafters, and a comical baskeball hoop waay up there. Pops was a Private Pilot for over 45 years. Lots of airshows, lots of museums. The SuperGuppy's always stood out for me. Recent youtube shows a window blowing out of one in flight during transport. Very aged structures.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Mentour Now has a terrific piece on the Super Guppy from a few months ago, I recommend it.

The engine nacelles on the Jabiru twin are an aerodynamic monstrosity. The plane is cool though. Do the Petersen 260 too !

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

I agree, what's going on there?

Excellent, awsome podcast! No BS just get with why we tuned in.🥇⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

@aircraftadventures-vids

14 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching

Stop having boring planes, stop having a boring life!

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

agreed

That landing approach at 10:30 is wild.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Yup, St Barts. Not for newbies

@byBartusRC

4 ай бұрын

​@@aircraftadventures-vidsyup, it's a "barts" thing! Haha

6:37 that could be the best one from the plane to the Truck

Reminds me of the WW2 bird F-82. Although they was never used in WW2 as they came in as it was just over in 1946. Minus the jet engine but it was very fast without a jet. (482 mph) Basically two p51 mustangs stuck together. 1380hp per engine. Factory made... 273 made in total. I would love to see one in person.

@aircraftadventures-vids

2 ай бұрын

I had the fortune of seeing the F-82 fly at Sun n Fun in 2019

RU serious?!!! I could never get sick of vids on P51’s or 747’s. 😂😂😂

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Me neither. No, not serious.

Funny you said the Arava "looks" slow. Once you said that, I had to agree. It almost looks like it wouldn't take off and fly. lol

YES the Box-van aircraft, another case of the British blocking a good idea and aircraft that could have succeed.

I'm not an engineer and even I could see that bad idea of sticking an engine on top of the fuselage.

9:57 Reference the Beech "Staggerwing" sometime, from the SAME timeframe. The Stark wings are more extreme of a stagger, but you can see the similarity.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Sort of. What's really different is the closed gap between wings and how that changes aerodynamics. Which is what made them so different from traditional biplanes.

This was brilliant. Subscribed. :D

The French cargo plane was an unlicensed copy of the USA Fairchild C-119 "Flying Boxcar".

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Apart from having wings, twin booms and radials, I disagree it's a "copy". At most, it was inspired by the Fairchild P-82 which came before it (unlike the C-119 which flew after the Noratlas) In fact quite a few planes were designed around this layout.

I like the Starck!!

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

It's a shame no one took the wing design and ran with it! Seems like it could be viable in certain applications

P-51s and F-18s are not boring. The last example of boring makes up for the lack of boring in the other two, though.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Of course they are not boring, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment.

@donniewatson9120

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids my comment was as well.

Here's an interesting little tid-bit, The first image at 2:48 of the Jabiru story, is actually of a ROTAX powered J-230 with a variable prop.

Finnish Fly Nano is (was) also weird ultralight box wing electric plane.

The US Sherpa and Ireland's Skyvan are eerily similar.

@aircraftadventures-vids

Ай бұрын

Nothing eery about that, both are from the same company (Shorts Brothers)

@brianb-p6586

Ай бұрын

The Short SC.7 Skyvan, 330 (C-23A Sherpa), 360 (C-23B Sherpa), and are all variants of the same design, and all built by Short Brothers. The US Air Force and Army operated them, but they were all built by Shorts in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

@brianb-p6586

Ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids " _Short_ Brothers" sometimes called "Shorts", but not "Shorts Brothers".

look at these planes that I don't know anything about except for the wiki page. I think they are strange so I'll talk about their looks. hey look at me. uggh.....

@aircraftadventures-vids

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍

the shape of the plane is very unique

I was half expecting to see a Custer Channel Wing turn up as they're definitely on the stranger side of things.

Very interesting!

AS-37 has the perfect wing arrangement to install Custer Channel Wings with the propellers on leading edge of channel, as Antonov Izdelye did, it made some tethered flights, also with engine inside fuselage and propellers moved by gears and shafts. Blessings +

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Conceptually this is in fact very similar to the Custer, in terms of aerodynamics

@joseveintegenario-nisu1928

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids Are the plans of this AS-37 still available? Where? Salut +

Twin engine jabiru. If the engine wasnt so unreliable wouldnt be necessary

@df3yt

2 ай бұрын

Exactly nothing to do with farmers with AK's. The farmers don't use AK's the criminals do. The reputation for Jabbies were engine outs. 4:30 - Not hostile land but inhospitable.

The Transavia AirTruk…. As seen on Mad Max.

Do any blueprints for the Miles Aerovan exist? It seems like a promising basis for a homebuilt w/ enough cabin space to be a flying RV you can live out of...

That was extremely coo! 'and alot of work likely?! Thank you' Most awesome! ✈️

@aircraftadventures-vids

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! A lot of work but love it.

@2:29 Embraer Bandeirante, the beginning of an era! It was hard to compete with this aircraft.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Well you'll be happy to know that a Bandeirante video is slowly in the works. No definitive date yet, have a lot of work (research and interviews) but it will definitely happen.

@byBartusRC

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids Take a look at the video "O voo do Impossível" that Embraer make to celebrate the 90th birthday of Ozires Silva, da man behind the creation of the Bandeirante.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

@@byBartusRC I have already. There’s a few more documentaries i need to watch too

@byBartusRC

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids and maybe interview Claudio Lucchesi who wrote the book. He has a very nice channel here on KZread too.

The Nord Noratlas and the Arava look like copies of the US C119 Flying Boxcar, 2:37)Here they copied the modified US North American Aviation's B25G & H Mitchell bomber that was used in the Pacific during WW II. The planes had two .50 caliber M2 Browning Heavy Machine Guns (HMG) mounted on each side of the cab. Four more in the nose and a 75mm cannon. Some had 10 HMGs that fired forward.There was four Air Apache squadrons. 345th Bomb Group.

Excellent video, is it possible to have it without background "music" ? The thing is, foreigners like me have some difficulties to understand everything. Without background it is much easier.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Sorry, can't turn off music (YES, I'm sure KZread will roll that out one day). I can tell you I will soon be having my videos dubbed in many different languages, so you won't miss a thing in any language. Stay tuned for that!

The Miles Aerovan was popular with recreational parachutists.

Jabiru twin reminds me of a warthog and the aerovan inspired thunderbird 2!

Yea me too, I love weird designed airplanes/helicopters.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

You'll love the next video I'm working on (hopefully out within 2 weeks or so)

those stark biplanes look as if he read some very old data i recently dound by chance from Naca tests on biplane configurations...some claimed the least drag was possible at 30% Gap on 1 cord stagger...and his by eye balling looks like that concoction, but actually those were just drag tests and no lift tests...wonder how fast it needed to go bcs interference must be enourmous!

Nothing boring about P-51s in my opinion… But these strange ones are fun to consider…

@aircraftadventures-vids

3 ай бұрын

It was fully tongue-in-cheek, not serious at all. All hail the mighty Mustang!

So, I'm guessing the Transavia Airtruk would have been too obvious? Then again, I might have gone with the McDonnell XF-85 Goblin. Or maybe the Oldsmobile F-85, which looked nothing like an airplane at all...

I stopped at 07:24 for a moment to check out the Thurston Teal. The Teal was not a success, only selling 38 planes. But, what caught my attention was the similarity between it and a current amphibious aircraft, the Lake Buccaneer. It turns out that the Lake models were designed by the same man, David Thurston.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Well that makes sense. Didn't know that.

@RobertHollander

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids I earned my pilot's license in 1980 and my instrument rating in 1982. I was living in Florida at the time and I was considering purchasing a airplane. Seeing that there is so much water in and around Florida, I thought a Lake amphibian might be a cool plane to own. That was until I learned that you pay a huge penalty in flight performance because you are flying something that is shaped more like a boat than a streamlined aircraft.

Flying bathtub! My favorite.

Recipe for bankruptcy: Build *your* great idea, then try to sell it. For Success: Ask around what people really need and build it - already sold.

The story in Papua New Guinea is the Arava's arrived with some inches of sand in the bottom of the airframe. They are rotting on the ramp at Port Moresby after last serving during the Bougainville Crisis. Flying Suppository.

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

that's a name I hadn't heard yet, lol

I can help thinking about Tony Stark when they said “Starck”.

Looking at the miles aerovan, i cant help but see a mini AC-119.

@aircraftadventures-vids

2 ай бұрын

I believe the Aerovan came first...so you could say the 119 is a huge Aerovan.

There is NOTHING boring about a P-51. Nothing!

@aircraftadventures-vids

3 ай бұрын

That was completely sarcastic. Of course it's not boring!

4:40, the Jabaru. Cool plane but how does having the engines like that help against AK-47s?

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Good point...by ensuring you have twin engines to keep you safely in the air, in the event you lose an engine. I failed to explain that.

Great content! I’m glad I found your channel. Looking forward to seeing future content. Thank you!

@aircraftadventures-vids

Ай бұрын

Thank you! New video coming soon, stay tuned.

The IAI Arava was my first type rating. It was weird looking but it made up for it for being s l o w. LOL

It's a great idea for ambulances, hauling a lot of weight, etc

Showing the AS20 but not the Flying Flea?

@aircraftadventures-vids

2 ай бұрын

The flying flea is arguably more well-known. I dare say the AS20 is not, even among pilots.

The Miles Aerovan shown with the New Zealand registration I'm pretty sure was owned by AIrwork (NZ) Ltd. It was used in the 1950s for top dressing. In the 1960s I remember the tail unit sitting in their hangar in Christchurch NZ. I don't the history behind it.

Check out the Abrams P1

Arava, Yes I saw two of them equipped with missiles ! They were parked facing our air line office. My chief pilot had them disarmed, He was concerned some idiot might touch the wrong button

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Yikes!

Transavia PL-12 Airtruk!!!!

@aircraftadventures-vids

2 ай бұрын

I did a video on that one

i'm curious, how well did the Starky fly? anybody know?

All of the planes are interesting. I'm not clear on how the Jubiru plane solved the ransom issue though.

@brianb-p6586

Ай бұрын

Two engines are supposed to avoid the need to land due to a single engine failure, and it is those unscheduled landings which apparently led to ransom demands. The video does not make this clear.

The Arava does well hauling Bolivian shale from dirt runways cut out of the jungles in South America.

stark did a design for aprilia too. really ugly and horribly built, they're a nightmare to work on! a a frenchman, I'm disgusted that stark was called on by aprilia..

@aircraftadventures-vids

3 ай бұрын

That was his son, an industrial designer if I'm not mistaken

The Arava should have been marked as a flying RV.

What about the aforementioned Falcon XP?

The Aerovan became more famous as "Thunderbird 2"

Not bad performance with only 2 Tiger Moth engines

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Crazy!

I don't get bore with aircraft, can't say the same for commentators!

Did they really let people on and off within inches of that turning propeller? That’s crazy. 6:23

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Free haircut!

@grumpy3543

4 ай бұрын

@@aircraftadventures-vids Seriously scary.

Nice collection but i was expecting to see an Optima by Edgley…those are weird

@aircraftadventures-vids

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I might do a video on that, but those are pretty well covered here on youtube.

@raymondthumper2267

3 ай бұрын

Don't you hate it when your spell check messes up? Edgley Optica...

Earth born AI will explore the milky way.

Is that 2x 40hp engines?