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  • @Bellbebell
    @Bellbebell4 ай бұрын

    These videos have completely changed the way I’ve approached all my human relationships. Now I just try to be a good human to be around

  • @jupitersecIipse
    @jupitersecIipse4 ай бұрын

    Yes, this is something I try to tell many people. Horses do tend to 'test' us, but not for the reasons common natural horsemanship would give you. Not because they so badly want to be 'alpha' and control you, but because they test if you're a good leader. And being a 'good leader' doesn't mean being the rough one who's quick to throw punches, but the understanding, kind and observant one.

  • @lilolmecj

    @lilolmecj

    4 ай бұрын

    I know this was at play the couple of times I paid to go riding. I did not feel comfortable, and the horse certainly sensed it. She wasn’t mean, but dawdled, stopped to graze, etc. that the other horses didn’t do. Also with being mouthy, most non human animals use their oral exploration a lot to understand mora about the world. If my dog locks me it isn’t aggressive, could mean many things. But horses are so big!

  • @kmsch986
    @kmsch9864 ай бұрын

    So many equestrians are successful career women (because we have to be able afford horses, lol) and we are working in busy careers, making fast decisions, and rushing around to get it all done. I realized one day that after I show up at the barn from a busy work day I had an agenda, get tacked up and ride, work on xyz, get home and get dinner going, do more work be done by 10pm. I would rush through bitting or walking, training because it wasn’t fitting my timeline. Your videos helped me stop this. I realized one day when I was putting on his bridle and he was taking his time, it only took 5 seconds so why rush him. Walking up to arena, he pauses and looks, I let him now, it takes three seconds. I used to think-come on we have work to do. But this is my time to slow down, be present. Let him find his pace and we work together. It’s so great.

  • @raraavis7782

    @raraavis7782

    3 ай бұрын

    Very good point. I don't own a horse, but I've come to the same conclusion when doing stuff with my nephew. Especially, when he was still a little kid. I had to really put the brakes on myself, to not rush through crafting projects or games or walking/riding bikes somewhere. Because no... it's not about achieving a result as quickly as possible. It's about quality time together. Having fun, developing his character and skills and bonding. It's really a totally different mindset than work.

  • @kmsch986

    @kmsch986

    3 ай бұрын

    @@raraavis7782 so true, I’ve noticed successful friends managing their family like work projects (yes, I did that too) and I have to consciously fight that urge. The people in our personal lives are not projects, employees or things to be fixed. It’s all about the connection. I read a book recently that said when you relate to the people in your lives remember the love is always more important than the outcome.

  • @OhK746
    @OhK7464 ай бұрын

    My horse trainer had an Arabian stallion that loved to do this. Most people would insist you “train this out,” but for him it was a sort of game or even a bonding exercise. He was such a wonderful gentleman and I just loved him.

  • @bhagmeister
    @bhagmeister4 ай бұрын

    I have been doing this with my 9 yo for some time. Never sense any aggression but rather play and curiosity.

  • @ronmccabe7164
    @ronmccabe71644 ай бұрын

    Also there is a concept in economics called Marginal Utility. If you like apples and don't have any, if I give you one, you will be happy. If I give you another, you will still be happy, but slightly (marginally) less so. If I keep giving you more and more apples, eventually you will reach a point where you don't want any apples.

  • @maryjohnston6429
    @maryjohnston64294 ай бұрын

    Over the years you and Bundy have taught me SO much. And here you go again. This is tremendously helpful. Thank you both!

  • @user-bi6ro8rx2m
    @user-bi6ro8rx2m4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I appreciate you highlighting this behavior and how you deal with it. Bundy looks super chill now. 😊

  • @TheCactusTreeStudio
    @TheCactusTreeStudio4 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for this Warwick ..absolute light bulb moment for me watching this, and my horse is going to love that I watched it too 🤠

  • @lyndiepanitz4431
    @lyndiepanitz44314 ай бұрын

    Interesting it explains why my horses will come to me and follow me in a dangerous or stressful situation. I rarely even think of getting a halter. Just now (night) heard a strange dog around and horses galloping. Called them in to yards and waited til they felt safe. Most of my horses are in earshot and I wake when things sound wrong. I guess thats more important to them than I realised

  • @peterlovett5841
    @peterlovett58414 ай бұрын

    I had a mare who if you scratched her withers and held your hand in front of her muzzle she would return the compliment and scratch your hand with her teeth. She was by far the most dominant mare of the herd.

  • @laracroce5814
    @laracroce58144 ай бұрын

    Thanks Warwick. You’ve helped me so much! this biting you’re showing today happens with my horse sometime too. For another point of view, I’ve realized that he does that when he needs his TMJ released, so I release it and the biting stops for a long time until he needs another release.

  • @nicolecourt7829
    @nicolecourt78294 ай бұрын

    Wow I don’t know what to add here…. I learn so much, your words sounds deep in my ❤. Thank you!

  • @keruetz
    @keruetz4 ай бұрын

    I was at your clinic at Best Friends Animal Society last year. This one tool has really helped me with my horse. This little short video let’s me know one thing I’m likely doing wrong from time to time. I do get impatient when he starts the chomping sometime. I need to learn to just let him do it until he’s finished, not force him to stop when I’m ready to move on to the next thing. Seems completely obvious now. Thanks for the added perspective.

  • @00katydid00
    @00katydid004 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love your videos because the truths in them are so true for my relationship with my kids as well as my relationship with horses. Your philosophies mesh really well with respectful parenting (not permissive) and I love it.

  • @patriciakimber4312
    @patriciakimber43124 ай бұрын

    My hubbys horse has done this to me for years,,, now I know why and I will change my attitude to him ,thank you

  • @michelleford7392
    @michelleford73924 ай бұрын

    I enjoy this with my horse! It looks funny and feels funny! It makes me laugh, and my dogs and horses always seem to enjoy it when I laugh! Love=Love

  • @jolindo6724
    @jolindo67244 ай бұрын

    Horses will groom each other as well to bond....he is bonding with you

  • @70sGirl67
    @70sGirl673 ай бұрын

    I get that. You don't get high anxiety over behaviors or high emotional responses as well (not a good herd leader) and you don't get weak, scared, unsure or back away (not good herd leader), you show the horse your confidence and understanding of their needs. And you see this when observing horses behaviors within the herd.

  • @sarahwagland1559
    @sarahwagland15594 ай бұрын

    Another gem from Warwick. Not hard to understand at all because you explain everything so well. Thank you 😊

  • @Traildraft
    @Traildraft4 ай бұрын

    Yet another learning moment for me. Horses teach us so much. I have applied so much of your training knowledge and has really help me to understand horse behavior.

  • @lydiagould3090
    @lydiagould30904 ай бұрын

    I’ve followed Warwick for a few years now. I did use to believe the hierarchy thing, watching my own herd .It makes a lot of sense what he says here, and I hope more people can learn to take a different approach 😊

  • @brigittesworld
    @brigittesworld4 ай бұрын

    Love this! I try to stay in curiosity with my horses and go with what is going on with the horse in that moment and it has made my interactions and time with my horses so much more enjoyable and fascinating.

  • @KingsMom831
    @KingsMom8314 ай бұрын

    Thanks for another video! Have missed seeing Bundy😊

  • @pttroe8142
    @pttroe81424 ай бұрын

    Bundy looks so cute when he does that! I've experienced this with a lot of riding school horses.( not my horses) And the horses that don't, seem shutdown. Most of the times they start yawning aswell. They seem to love gnawing their teeth! specially pressure on their lower jaw. And I agree that it's not biting. Sometimes they get a tiny bit of skin, and then they're very gentle, as if they know they could hurt you. I find it a wonderfull way to meet horses.😊Unfortunately, here in Norway, the usual attitude is: Don't let a horse put his mouth on you. 🤙

  • @Galemor1

    @Galemor1

    4 ай бұрын

    Fellow Norwegian here, so sick and tired of these "professional" riders, who keeps a horse locked up all day, because of the rain, instead of having a shelter outside, but then the pasture is just a muddy square, so who knows what is better, standing there in the mud and rain waiting for the next meal, or standing inside waiting for the next meal?

  • @Jessie-bo3nt
    @Jessie-bo3nt4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for debunking dominance theory and explaining that most challenging equine behaviors stem from a perceived lack of safety or unmet needs. A horse cannot feel safe around someone who reacts in anger, threatens or otherwise elicits fear, or behaves inconsistently and unpredictably. Nor can most humans. Over the years, you have completely changed how I view and interact with my horse (and others). He is truly infinitely happier for it and so am I. And you've inspired me to work towards becoming a certified equine behaviorist. I can't thank you enough Warwick!!

  • @myronschabe
    @myronschabe4 ай бұрын

    Truly excellent video!!! LOTs of lessons in this little clip. These 'new' perspectives and tying into some other concepts as well is very valuable.

  • @HeyWatchMeGo
    @HeyWatchMeGo4 ай бұрын

    Sometimes this 'behavior' is demonstrated BECAUSE the horse is craving Salt or Mineral...the same as when you see them 'eating' dirt. Something to consider, ESPECIALLY if your horse doesn't have free choice access to LOOSE salt and LOOSE mineral. There are a lot of other reasons for horses to do this, but this is something to consider. The casual biting/chewing against a handler's hand can help the horse gain some (sweat) salt etc... An important consideration. Provide free choice/easy access to LOOSE salt and mineral, before you decide this is a 'behavior' that you need to manage with training/behavior modification.

  • @ratherbwithhorses

    @ratherbwithhorses

    4 ай бұрын

    Salt the mostly firgotten necessity! People so often forget this simple need. Processed feed is not suficient, actually they are not allowed to add enough salt. Mine love the Redmond river rocks and always have a white block in every field near the water.

  • @annatuira4678
    @annatuira46784 ай бұрын

    You teach us so much Warwick and it is really appreciated. In this case, how do you know that it is indeed that kind of "challenge" or "test" to see if you're fit for the job? How do you know when to stand for your own boundaries by pushing back, and when to accept their behaviour and wait it out?

  • @suecastillo4056
    @suecastillo40564 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!♥️🙋‍♀️‼️

  • @alexisl4158
    @alexisl41584 ай бұрын

    I am so glad I came across this video. It is brilliant. I have a horse that loves to chomp or grab Mt sleeve. Without realizing it, I let him get his fill and he stopped. This wonderful video explained it. I can't wait to see more. Thank you.

  • @mikegiles9303
    @mikegiles93034 ай бұрын

    Horses get endorphins released from oral interactions with their friends and the world around them. A horses mouth is like a babies hands. Just like a child holding your hand for comfort. They do not understand that they are hurting us with their teeth doing something that would feel good to a horse. What would it do to a baby if you slapped it's hand away when it tried to hold a hand for comfort and safety. What I do is exactly what Warwick shows here. But I go much further. First I teach the word " gentle " by saying gentle while very gently touching the eye area and having a look of gentleness in my voice and face. They get that almost immediately because who doesn't like gentle love! So gentle is now your control word. More importantly it is an idea. A connection that horses have no problem making. Once they get it I do the open palm method Warwick shows for starters. A safe way to give them the idea that you want to hold their hand. They will be excited at first and press kinda hard against your palm seemingly trying to bite you harder while their teeth squeak against your palm. Look at their eyes and you will see the dreamy eyed look of endorphins and oxytocin in the brain. You will see for a fact that they aren't trying to hurt you cause they love you. They just want to hold you with their mouth. I talk to them about being gentle and look them in the eye with feeling and let them bite the meaty outer edge of my palm. Looking at them eye to eye And talking about gentle. If they bite to hard I yell, no. More gentle. And immediately put my hand back in the mouth. My 3.5 year old SE Arabian Stud colt with a strong desire to bite loves this, in fact needs it and that is why he's nippy. My personal space with him is very close up but strictly enforced. I don't back up. He can bite me if he wants. He can touch me anywhere he wants with his mouth. Face to face. I totally trust him. He has never bitten me hard or to hurt me. Try it Warwick! You say don't be defensive but your flat palm defense is obviously defensive! Do you not trust Bundy ?

  • @SonjaBruenzels

    @SonjaBruenzels

    4 ай бұрын

    😍

  • @nancyhamlin9169
    @nancyhamlin91694 ай бұрын

    Tried this today with my boy and it does work He just kind of gave up after a while and licked and chewed Thank you Warwick😊🐎

  • @racheldutchak3980
    @racheldutchak3980Ай бұрын

    This very easy to understand. Thank you Warwick, your path from the start with Sherlock has really blossomed.

  • @NoblePeril
    @NoblePeril4 ай бұрын

    I'd love to hear your take on a horse that "sneak" bites and actually bites. Bought a colt that would nip quickly and painfully the minute he was bored when he was being led or tied. He was perfectly behaved in all other aspects, knew to stay out of my space and not run me over, how to back and lunge, ect, but he kept biting. I tried engaging/petting his muzzle but his behavior only escalated until I went to snapping the halter on his nose and backing him vigorously every time he bit. Now that he knows biting is unacceptable, he will still ask to nuzzle or chew, and I let him, but he knows if he physically bites, there will be uncomfortable consequences. Obviously I would have liked to avoid having to make him that uncomfortable, but it was getting dangerous and I sustained many bruises trying only to "engage" with him.

  • @sidilicious11

    @sidilicious11

    4 ай бұрын

    I stopped my incessant biter in a similar way that you did. Mine wasn’t a sneaky biter but a constant ear-pinny biter. Touch him and he’d bite, groom him, put on a halter, adjust a buckle on his tack, reach to clip on a lead rope, point toward a body part, ask anything of him within the reach of his teeth and he’d bite at me, including biting my foot and shins when I was on him. He was just incredibly skeptical. I tried many techniques over many years, but it came down to discouraging him in the same way you described, and that worked.

  • @alisonevans7403

    @alisonevans7403

    4 ай бұрын

    I too have an 8 mo old that is sometimes curious and wanting to engage, and sometimes just bites the soup out of me. It can be hard to tell what's in his mind. And he does seem to understand when I correct his biting (the other horses sure correct him!). Anyway, I feel you!

  • @andyburton4036
    @andyburton40362 ай бұрын

    Spot on

  • @GusGilkeson
    @GusGilkeson4 ай бұрын

    So cool, they teach us so many great things, love it :)

  • @quantenheilhypnose7189
    @quantenheilhypnose71892 ай бұрын

    brilliant…..thanks

  • @randomvielleuse527
    @randomvielleuse5274 ай бұрын

    Marvelous. Thank you.

  • @Claudia.888
    @Claudia.8884 ай бұрын

    Great!!!❤

  • @malice6477
    @malice64774 ай бұрын

    Such a wonderful lesson

  • @debtompkins5363
    @debtompkins53634 ай бұрын

    herd dynamics are a deep well of varied behaviors, I had a herd from 12=20 very mixed horses, the smallest gelding was the boss there were several cranky mares, 2 palominos would go butt to butt kicking every day. one day a very tiny mare came into the group, none of the herd approached her they all instantly accepted her as Queen and boss gelding then claimed her as his, there was NO Fuss..... another young mare would constantly challenge her low position and always lose the scuffle with whoever she tried to advance over

  • @introvertedequinesamsara6593
    @introvertedequinesamsara65934 ай бұрын

    His intrusive thoughts won 😂

  • @neeleywilson403
    @neeleywilson4034 ай бұрын

    This really does work did this with a youngster I had that bite on everything and over time her got so so much better and never directly bite me ever. His trust with me over other horses was entirely different than any horse I’d ever been around.

  • @psychedelichippocampus6226
    @psychedelichippocampus62264 ай бұрын

    I've always taken that as affection and don't correct until he starts picking at my rings

  • @nancyhamlin9169
    @nancyhamlin91694 ай бұрын

    Loved this

  • @michellejester9734
    @michellejester97344 ай бұрын

    I love your philosophy and agree wholeheartedly. Our guy is very similar to Dundee and I try and explain to everyone at our barn that he's just communicating. If people aren't comfortable with our horse checking them out to see how they react (but they have to handle him regularly), what do you suggest we tell them to do? I've unfortunately have told others if they're not comfortable or he freaks them out to just tell him no and give him a swat on the nose. Not hard, just quickly to let him know you don't have time or want him checking things out, you just want to feed or get him to pasture or to his stall. Should they be reacting differently? Bc sometimes, no matter their experience level, you'll find that the are ppl out there who are more like the "Clinton Anderson" type and believe horses should never be feeling or licking or zipping handlers' bodies or clothing. We have a VERY close connection with our close to 6 yr old paint and have trained him ourselves since he was 30 minutes old!! Our daughter was a 4Her and he became a family project which we've so enjoyed bonding, forming a lasting connection with him. We are so close with him that in Oct, he was acting very strange for him. Refusing his grain, standing on the side of his stall right next to his only neighbor. He had nibbled some hay, drank water and pooped so I just really didn't think it was colic. He just kept returning to where he was standing even after leading him to his grain bucket repeatedly. After an hr, he gave up and ate but as I was peering into his stall, his 36 yr old paso fino neighbor caught my eye, and I saw signs of him colicking!! Quick action, thanks in part to having a very close connection to our guy, helped me help his owner save his life that night!! Moral: horses really communicate and have a lot to say when we slow down and really listen to them. Our guy became increasingly unhappy with the boarding facility we were at bc the owners are lazy and just care about $. They refused to turn any horses out except about 3x the entire month of Dec. We could tell he was depressed and unhappy, so we were able to find a better barn for him-he's an entirely different horse after just two weeks at his new barn. He's allowed and encouraged to be in a herd and to be a horse instead of a prisoner or a toy that couldn't get wet or muddy bc God forbid that a paddock gets hoof prints, or same with pasture. Daily turnout needs to be daily turnout bc horses don't mind rain, snow or mud. Old barn owners weren't concerned about horses colicking or not getting enough hay each day-they only cared about $ coming in and hoof prints devaluing their picture perfect "farm". Some careful listening while allowing these types of lip feeling (which reminds me of an elephant using its trunk to investigate its surroundings), really allowed us to communicate and explain to him that we get it, we're moving him. Hang tight His new barn has a few folks that aren't used to a horse that communicates this way so I just want to make it a positive place for him and to ensure them that he's not dangerous or being disrespectful-he's just trying to learn who the new ppl are and who will be his friends vs those he may decide he can't trust. THANKS ❤

  • @dawnstoker2258
    @dawnstoker22584 ай бұрын

    This philosophy makes good sense. How would you engage or meet the need of a horse that is displaying dangerous behavior?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    It depneds on what the behaviour is, but most times a horse is displaying a dangerous behaviour is because they are given no other option by the human. What sort of behaviours are you refering to?

  • @dawnstoker2258

    @dawnstoker2258

    4 ай бұрын

    Rearing, bucking, biting...things like that. I completely understand and agree with your approach but seems difficult with these kinds of behavior.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    well I covered biting in this video. 99% of rearing is caused by the human, no horse WANTS to rear, they are usually given no other option. Most bucking is caused by poor preparation for riding, and all of these circumstances can be mitigated by the human losing their agenda for a while, and get with the horses mental state. @@dawnstoker2258

  • @bathorimikihorsemanship
    @bathorimikihorsemanship4 ай бұрын

    Not to mention, when they do this WIDEOPEN mouthed chomping, usually followed by a chain of yawns, is free yoga for their mandibular area 😄 Done right, they can stretch practically the whole topline, while they are busy gnawing like a machine.

  • @katiesinthekitchen
    @katiesinthekitchen4 ай бұрын

    My mustang didn't do this, but he loved to scratch his face on my back. I allowed it and he seemed more relaxed after he got it out of his system.

  • @Lipurta1
    @Lipurta14 ай бұрын

    I just love your approach to horses and humans. Just imgagine human beings woud all act in the interest of their community. We could learn from horses.

  • @Sniff_K9_Coach
    @Sniff_K9_Coach4 ай бұрын

    Brilliant. I see lots of problem behaviour in dogs, where their needs, can also be breed specific are not met. Providing outlets for needs is so important for happy dogs or horses.

  • @poniesinthemist
    @poniesinthemist4 ай бұрын

    I have very small delicate hands and my shire horse has a big mouth so I dont let him use his teeth on me but he is allowed to chew his lead rope and I have a rope dog toy that I hold for him when he wants to play. He is not allowed to chew his reins because they are expensive 😂

  • @lisafoster4468
    @lisafoster44684 ай бұрын

    I'm beginning to think that's the truth of wolf hierarchy too.

  • @meaganlawler7536
    @meaganlawler75364 ай бұрын

    Wonderful insight--thank you.

  • @paulinerai5078
    @paulinerai50784 ай бұрын

    Bundt’s in agreement

  • @teresaedwards1591
    @teresaedwards15914 ай бұрын

    Feel safe around you 👍 absolutely my boys 🐎🐎 have tested me many times I do the leadership role as mom ❤

  • @phoebebright
    @phoebebright4 ай бұрын

    Yes I'm finding it hard to wrap my head around this! I have this model in my head that horses are looking, as their highest priority to be both safe with (you will stop the monster eating me) and safe from ( you will not turn into a monster). This response of not responding will reassure them that they are safe from you, but will it reassure that they are safe with? You are showing you are not a push over but how about demonstrating your ability to protect them? I will have to experiment. Your continued development as a horseman is inspirational and at times challenging. Thank you.

  • @MD-bu3xc
    @MD-bu3xc4 ай бұрын

    Oh for heavens sake!! Sacred space?!?! Oh brother!

  • @debbienixon4460
    @debbienixon44604 ай бұрын

    Ok , I’m just seeing this I can’t do this with a couple of my horses they take a bite & I mean a chunk of my arm . You just can’t ignore that and I haven’t broke them from it yet and it’s hard not to get defensive about it I’m always on alert.

  • @mtranchhorses9943
    @mtranchhorses99434 ай бұрын

  • @draciborska
    @draciborska3 ай бұрын

    Does this apply to stallions? Because their mouthing tends to escalate into biting, and then the stick with the flag would have to come into play. I’d love for you to elaborate on that, Warwick!

  • @kyleewhitehill7158
    @kyleewhitehill7158Ай бұрын

    I have a yearling who I will engage with like this until he's done, and its not aggressive. But went I get close to him to pick up his feet, he'll whip around and bite at me. I'm wondering if I'm missing something he's telling me where he's uncomfortable and that's how he feels he needs to react.

  • @loredelore7286
    @loredelore72864 ай бұрын

    Most things to do with the mouth wether it's a human or a horse is directly related to the stomach as that is where anxiety originates.

  • @sylviar.7963
    @sylviar.79634 ай бұрын

    Is this the same for Stallions?

  • @onionpainter
    @onionpainter4 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @karenanderson6323
    @karenanderson63234 ай бұрын

    That is GREAT, great to hear you mention B. Brown. I wonder if he has acess to salt and or minerals. Maybe liking you for salt? ":-)

  • @sueheaman7186
    @sueheaman71864 ай бұрын

    Hi. I watched other videos of yours where you rub the horses muzzle if they like to mouth you. It seemed to help at first( I did it every time I was around him) But then when I was leading him in the pasture to let him go he would sometimes quickly give me a bit on the arm and it hurt! What is the solution to when that happens?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    Did you do exactly the same thing you did when you were standing still? I think you are the one who changed, the horse was just doing the same thing, you just didnt respond the same.

  • @cindyrissal3628
    @cindyrissal36284 ай бұрын

    Warwick...you've probably done a video on this, & I apologize that I haven't seen it...but how do you respond to stallions? Acquaintances of mine raise horses, & they're very adamant about *never* touching the stallion's nose , or even their head, don't pet it, don't get your hand close...nothing. They're afraid it'll make them bite. Does the "just keep your space" thing work for them? Would what you did here make them bite or make it worse if they already have that tendency? I've gotten trouble w/ these people before & don't know what to think now. 😅

  • @lazygardens

    @lazygardens

    4 ай бұрын

    "they're very adamant about never touching the stallion's nose , or even their head, don't pet it, don't get your hand close They're afraid it'll make them bite." How are they putting halters on? Grooming?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    Theres a stallion in this viodeo kzread.info/dash/bejne/n6Ocw5WTkpTHgqg.html

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    and this one kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGZ6lLKQo9zYmdY.html

  • @juliaparrott3655
    @juliaparrott36554 ай бұрын

    Such an interesting take on 'mouthiness'. My young horse is SO mouthy and I've tackled it from many angles, but this one I haven't stayed long enough. Will try. Question: what happens if the mouthiness turns into a young horse bite ?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    He cant bite if I keep my hand perpendicular to the ground, his mouth doesnt open that wide.

  • @juliaparrott3655

    @juliaparrott3655

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller Thanks for the reply ! I wasn't expecting it. I'll put this to the test .......

  • @mikegiles9303

    @mikegiles9303

    4 ай бұрын

    Start with the control word "gentle". Teach it before you need it. Once he knows what it means you can talk to him about it and simply tell him that it hurts you if he isn't gentle enough. Tell him with feeling in your voice and face. He is telling you how he feels with his ears and eyes. Is he dreamy eyed and biting too hard because he is feeling a lot of love and gets a little carried away? If so then say "Ow no that hurts me" with emotion in your face and voice. Ask him to be gentle and give him your hand again. If on the other hand he looks like he is excited by playing the bite the hand game then I will say no! And refuse to play. No horseplay allowed! Know your horse! An abused horse might take your arm off! I have done this with several of my horses since I discovered it with results ranging from absolute safety for fingers and the horse loosing consciousness and me holding up a 50 pound horse head by the teeth with an Appaloosa gelding to my 3.5 year old Arabian colt who still can't be fully trusted with bony parts of my hand. He totally knows how to be gentle but can get progressively excited start biting to hard and I have to talk him down to be more gentle.

  • @juliaparrott3655

    @juliaparrott3655

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mikegiles9303 Thanks for the useful reply Mike. My instructor (ex Parelli instructor) has mentioned that I'm too polite, which I probably am. But.... I feel caught (and always have btw) between the humanising of the relationship between horse and human and a more structured approach with hard line rules that we learnt through PNH like: 'don't invade my space'. 'if you bite me, I'll bite you because that's what happens in horseland'. I get dogs, they're much more domesticated and much more used to the language and energies of a human household. When we go play/ride with our horse however, we're sort of visiting their household, be it stable or field or the arena to a degree. So I stepped back from humanising for a while and used the structured approach with clear boundaries. It works to a degree but I feel that it doesn't quite cover a more nuanced communication. Now I have started to use human sounds, just as you suggested, and he does read it ! I'd love Warwick to do a podcast on this topic of education and the interpretation of the messages coming through. (Maybe he already has ?) One aspect I really loved about Linda's input into the Parelli programme was the psychology.

  • @mikegiles9303

    @mikegiles9303

    4 ай бұрын

    @@juliaparrott3655 I don't want you to think that I am a professional horse trainer or anything anywhere close to one but I have basically learned on my own being taught by my over a dozen horses that I have raised from birth and a few others that I have purchased in my 45 years of living with them. So be careful when trying to adopt my methods. We are talking about horses that bite after all here! Also don't think that I am some sort of pushover with my horses . I'm a middle ground type of trainer and I believe that two seemingly opposite " right ways" of doing things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive or can't be used in a combined fashion. For instance I like spirited almost jumpy horses capable of quick mood changes because I am a good rider and I have ridden tens of thousands of miles bareback . I'm not afraid of horses. They learn this about me very quickly. I will not hesitate for a split second to react appropriately " in horse fashion" for any pushiness or unwanted biting or mean look. And I will not let it slide. If they dare try to get big with me I get REAL BIG in a micro second and I am not against causing some pain, appropriate in horse fashion, in an appropriate degree but ONLY IF THE HORSE STARTS IT! Horses are born with a sense of justice. It's simple. If you bite me for no retaliation reason then I have a right to bite you back as hard as I choose to and you have no right to complain. Don't go off pouting about it and holding a grudge. And the same goes for you if I bite you for no reason. Even if I bite you softly you have the right to bite me as hard as you feel like you need to. In fact if you don't bite me I am free to bite you harder the next time. That's the rules.

  • @atsavvy6.0
    @atsavvy6.03 ай бұрын

    Warwick is just putting a new spin on old information .

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    2 ай бұрын

    Why thank you kind sir

  • @hafizosamamasood7860
    @hafizosamamasood78604 ай бұрын

    My mare never bites on a lead rope. Very rare that she bites on lead. She bites when she is in the stable. Whenever i approach her in the stables she pins her ears immediately and then bites if touched on the head. How can i correct this cause if i put her a halter then she stops pinning her ears right away and then doesnt bite. But when no halter she can bite

  • @christinelaporte7880
    @christinelaporte78804 ай бұрын

    any advice along these lines for a horse that has started nipping for the first time in his life, during a time of stall rest for injury recovery?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, watch this video

  • @christinelaporte7880

    @christinelaporte7880

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller This video does not address my question. Thanks anyway

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    I believe it does@@christinelaporte7880

  • @equestanton1017
    @equestanton10174 ай бұрын

    Not sure you need to "fend" yourself from this horse. It just needs a salt-lick. Thats a lump of solid mineral you put in the pasture for them to lick.When he realises there is no more to be had from a sweaty palm he stops. You cant eat an orange twice, right.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    2 ай бұрын

    There was no fending in this video, there was only engaging. He has access to as much Redmond salt as he wants.

  • @diaml
    @diaml4 ай бұрын

    Gosh, the audio isn’t working. Is it just me?

  • @myronschabe

    @myronschabe

    4 ай бұрын

    Just you.

  • @aileen694

    @aileen694

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@myronschabe No, mine has no audio either! A shame, as this looks quite interesting...☹️

  • @aileen694

    @aileen694

    4 ай бұрын

    diaml, same here! Silent video...🙄

  • @myronschabe

    @myronschabe

    4 ай бұрын

    @@aileen694 The audio is fine....there is either and issue with your individual set up or YT is having occasional problems. There is a great video so encourage to check it out :)

  • @ronmccabe7164

    @ronmccabe7164

    4 ай бұрын

    Only one channel is working on my desktop. Mobile (iPhone 8) - both channels seem to have sound.

  • @betsysmall2396
    @betsysmall23964 ай бұрын

    Never saw this hose remotely try to bite him??

  • @marysinclair1214
    @marysinclair12144 ай бұрын

    I don’t allow my horses lips to touch me ever. He isn’t allowed to kick me either.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    4 ай бұрын

    Thats one way of interacting with horses.

  • @tracyjohnson5023
    @tracyjohnson50234 ай бұрын

    Wow a man ponytail on Warwick. Love the horse insight, just not a fan of the tail lol.

  • @charlottesaabye539
    @charlottesaabye5394 ай бұрын

    This is why Thrump is such a bad Leader 😅

  • @dianesamp9102
    @dianesamp91024 ай бұрын

    ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GREAT VIDEO!!!!!! AMEN TO WHAT I FEEL, BELIEVE, YOU NEED TO DO WITH HORSES. I'VE WORKED WITH PLENTY & IT'S NOT BEEN DOMINANCE AT ALL THAT I'VE SEEN, JUST THE OPPOSITE. TRUST, HOW LOVING THEY CAN BE WHEN THERE'S A MUTUAL RESPECT & I DON'T AGREE WITH PEOPLE PUSHING THEM AWAY OR FLICKING THEM ON THE FACE. I GIVE THEM THINGS TO EAT BUT NOT IN WITH A HEARD. I DO FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF A FENCE IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE, AND HAVE PLENTY OF VIDEOS OF NO FIGHTING, NO BAD BEHAVIORS TO ME OR THE OTHER HORSES, ACTUALLY WAITING THEIR TURNS!!!!! THANK YOU & AMEN FOR THIS VIDEO FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO READ A HORSES BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THEY CAN READ YOUR INTENTIONS!!! THIS IS HORSE KNOWLEDGE FOR DUMMIES TO SEE! 👍🐴☺️💯 FROM AN EQUINE MESSAGE THERAPIST 🤎

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