We need more discussions like this. With folks we agree w and those we don't. Catholics should be leading the way.

@josephtravers777

3 жыл бұрын

@Matias Geraldo By your statement, you are progressive. The question is, what are you progressing to?

@josephtravers777

3 жыл бұрын

@Matias Geraldo Where does the Catholic church fall short in this respect? Two thousand years of highly philosophical and scientific study, there. Nothing regressive or oppressive about it.

@ericneubauer5345

3 жыл бұрын

@Harley Mann Not sure I agree. Illiberalism and/or leftist ideology is the culprit. At the very least you can dialogue and debate w classical liberals. However, another culprit is polarization. We have silenced the conversation between Catholics w this one.

@ericneubauer5345

3 жыл бұрын

@@tallotta1 The entire history of God's people is connected to sin, separation, acknowledgment of our sins, redemption, and eventually evangelization. Today is no different. No matter the storm that brews, we are called to live holy lives following after the example that Jesus and the Apostles gave to us. You and I both know that we cannot escape this fact. I wish there was more holiness and passion for the Church than is exhibited. In response, I am doubling down, following Jesus, and working out my salvation with fear and trembling. Thanks for your thoughts.

I’m an African American but I’m completely against affirmative action. My wife was the top of her medical school class but some people assume she got there because of affirmative action. Affirmative Action only leads to disrespect of hard working minorities. What we should be advocating for is resources and good teachers in minority schools.

@justinermiger6734

3 жыл бұрын

amazing leaders you are!!

@stevegarrisi9130

3 жыл бұрын

The term “affirmative action” takes me back to the 1980’s. As part of affirmative action, General Motors hired some African Americans engineers out of college. Talking to senior white engineers at that time one told me “those guy were shoved down our throats don’t know anything so we just ignore them” A perfect set up for failure.

@laurafortmeyer4549

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevegarrisi9130 I'll bet they would have wanted to ignore any inexperienced, freshly minted engineers even if they were not African-American. Unfortunately, they had the opportunity to connect it to affirmative action.

@keymaker2112

3 жыл бұрын

I second the call for good teachers, but additional resources aren't necessary. The USA already outspends most other developed countries in dollars spent per student, and multiple studies have shown that increasing funding to schools does not show an appreciable increase in student outcomes. The two most important factors for academic performance are stable 2 parent households who prioritize education, and capable teachers who have been trained in the 6 core strategies identified by the Institute of Educational Sciences, the research wing of the Department of Education. Only the black community itself can meaningfully address for former issue, and the latter can only be really addressed by realizing that we have limited resources when it comes to top-flight teachers (there are only so many of them) and making open-eyed rational decisions about their distribution. Not everyone can have, or will get, a top-flight teacher, it's statistically impossible, but can we at least make sure we get competent teachers?

@stevegarrisi9130

3 жыл бұрын

@@keymaker2112 I agree. Teachers are undertrained and underpaid especially when they first started. Also, the schools that need good teachers can’t afford to pay them. There should be a system to put good teachers where needed.

I believe the best, single piece of advice to evangelization is building a relationship. You build the Kingdom of Heaven by establishing relationships and inviting others to share in God's love. This is where Bishop Barron shines!

@JPGoertz

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent and true point, Anthony! Working the same way in Berlin / Germany.

@mranderson380

3 жыл бұрын

The greeks called that ｆｉｌｉａ , it is the friendship and trust that allows people to trade and live together knowing that they wont screw eachother.

I love this collaboration so much! I’ve followed Bishop Barron, Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson separately, and I just love to see these worlds collide in this interview. It’s so refreshing to see this kind of conversation from two people who both agree and disagree on many things, but have a fundamental agreement on their criticism of “woke-ism.” More of this please!

@deborahanne9793

3 жыл бұрын

m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJNq3NmPftGeaNI.html

@Abigailwark

2 жыл бұрын

Same!!!

When by the grace of God , literally from going to confession after 15 years away, I didn't know that the brilliant clarity of Aquinas and "final cause" .. what actually and literally moves us, would become clear to my intellect and that I was returning to the only fully coherent and satisfying divine core of reality that truly explained sunsets, sin and love. We are moved by desire which is a sign of love , deep longing at the core of our being. Love your work Bishop Barron and may I encourage folks to get familiar with the intellectual, the philosophical underpinnings of Catholicism... the lights will literally shine. Philosophers Peter Kreeft and Ed Feser or physicist Stephen M Barr are good places to start. Happiness.

Excellent discussion. You gentlemen are top notch. If only the rest of the world would pay attention to this.

Bishop Barron is always the smartest in the room. Yet, he's very humble. That's awesome.

People in great respect, Jesus came to speak to the sinners. We are all sinners, never forget this regardless of your religious affiliation or political beliefs.

@jerryw6699

3 жыл бұрын

We once had a very belligerent Priest. He would tell the congregation that they were not worthy of being a Catholic. I had a very serious heart to heart talk with him and he told me he only wanted the most religious, serious, conservative people in his church. I told him he should want the drunks and drug addicts in the front row, that is what his job is about. He listened, but had a hard time accepting what I said. We all need to be reminded of what you said from time to time.

42:40. 10/10 Bishop Barron. I watched you in my Catholic high school and you continue to wow me into adulthood. The way you speak motivates me to keep the faith. Thank you 🙏

Bishop Barron is wise. He is exactly the type of Catholic that lives for Our Lord. He just keeps pursuing Christ and brings him to Catholics and anyone else who is interested in an accessible way🙏🙏🙏😊

This was such a refreshing conversation to hear after witnessing all of the chaos happening in our country. God bless you Bishop, I appreciate you hosting people like David and being salt and light.

Pray for this ministry to reach the lost. Dave is searching and has said so on air. Pray for Dave to hear and follow the GOSPEL.

Good conversation between you two! Having people who disagree about many things still able to have a civil discussion is great to see. God bless you all.

Listened to the entire interview through the Word on Fire Institute. I applaud all partipants for an intelligent exchange of ideas, done in a respectful way. That's the model, friends.

We've come a long way for Bishop Barron to be speaking with Dave Rubin of all people. I'm going to love every second of this video.

Loved this discussion. Thank you for letting me listen in. I enjoyed it very much. Always remember that whether you are speaking to a liberal or conservative-minded person, EVERYONE wants to be happy. This is an open door where God can walk in. Ultimately, God is our true good and eternal happiness. That should appeal to all souls.

God Bless you Bishop, God Bless you gentlemen. Thank you soo much!

was here just after in started...2 minutes...and already so many dislikes...no one had a chance to listen. Lets pray for these people to change their hearts from hate to love

@zsoltszabo6482

3 жыл бұрын

"... You believe in individual rights, in essence, if you are a legal member ..." That qualification is pretty awful sounding because slaves were not legal members. Probably not the best way to start out and a quick path to downvotes. I get it, if you have been convicted of a crime, your liberties are checked, same thing if you come to this country and overstay your visa, etc. But it's strange to feel the need to call that out so early in the conversation because you can put anybody in that class for 'technical reasons'. Classic Liberalism would do its best to keep those scenarios as outliers.

@Btn1136

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not hate. It’a a thumbs down.

@allyinbc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Btn1136 it is when it has only been a minute.....thumbs down, is if you do not agree for whatever reason, after listening

Very happy to see these 2 together! 2 lights of reason.

Why look at that! How wonderful, two men so diverse, have so much in common! God is great. And this conversation was well worth my time. Thank you.

Thank you WoF staff, priests, Bishop Barron, and Dave Rubin for this open, friendly, honest, and insightful discussion.

This is exactly what I was looking for given the current climate. Thank you!

Reminds me of Churchill's quote: " Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms..."

I enjoyed this new forum from Bishop Barron. Hopefully this will become a regular presentation.

I found this very interesting and informative. Good conversations!

Thank you for this gift of discussion.

Can Bishop Barron please do a video with Patrick Deneen or Adrian Vermeule? There are so many great critiques of liberalism coming from Catholics these days, it would be such a rewarding conversation to listen to. Not to mention many younger Catholics are more drawn to the Deneen/Vermeule position than to “classical liberalism”

@josephdailey1291

3 жыл бұрын

YESSS!!! I would Love to hear Bishop Barron talk to Deneen. Why Liberalism failed fundamentally changed the way I think about politics. It is a really insightful and prophetic work about the errors Liberalism has created and is sustaining.

@josephdailey1291

3 жыл бұрын

@Lavee Yang that’s a good question. I would say that Liberalism is what paved the way for postmodernism because it equivocates freedom with mere license. When freedom is defined as simply being freed from control of others, (rather than a classical understanding of freedom as self-control and restraint, a freedom from temptation) I think a relativism where truth is subjective becomes more likely. However, I think you are right to say that if we did address the problems of modernity, liberalism would not have such a sting.

As a protestant, there is much I admire, respect, and am attracted to about the Catholic Church. But one thing I think protestants have done extremely well is teach and promote the Bible. I know Sola Scriptura is a point of dissent between us. But I think Catholics, in reaction to the reformation, deemphasized learning the scriptures to their great disadvantage. Just one point. There is much to criticise in the protestant churches as well.

@killianmiller6107

3 жыл бұрын

I agree as a Catholic Christian. If things didn’t go too far between Luther and the Church and he didn’t renounce communion with the pope, no doubt he may have started his own order among Franciscans and Dominicans that put much deeper devotion and emphasis on scripture. Alas this did not happen and the church is more divided than ever, but it seems to me that Catholics have been approaching bibles more recently with Lectio Divina for instance. But for us, the Bible is not THE culmination of the faith, but Mass and the Holy Eucharist. Not everyone can read the Bible and know what it means in fullness, but everyone can truly receive Jesus body, blood, soul, and divinity.

@bobbyjohnson6410

3 жыл бұрын

As a devout Catholic I believe you are absolutely right. I was born and raised in the Catholic Church but never actually sat down and read the Gospels until I was 35. While the Source and Summit of the Christian Faith is the Eucharist, you have to "climb" to it with the Word of God under your feet. Otherwise, you are on the summit and truly don't understand why.

@killianmiller6107

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying

@Irtechie

3 жыл бұрын

I believe protestants seem to have an issue where 'the holy spirit' is their guide. Where this can be literally just 'ego'. I see more people leave the faith because of what protestants say 'in God's name' than any pull from any atheist. I believe that Catholicism allows for intellectualism that generally Protestantism doesn't allow. Thomism specifically is a very solid philosophy steeped in millennia of philosophical thought. Lewis was the last protestant I saw coming from this place. I wish there were more as Lewis (to me) was the best evangelist we have had in the last 50 years. His call to God's reason similar to Aquinas speaks to people. I find it much easier to come to God through philosophy and reason, then leading into Grace then into faith. As compared to "you will burn because you don't believe exactly as I do". As Catholics, we cannot make any claim to God's judgement. So while we are outside of the bible as well, we believe God gave all of man wisdom even the atheist. And we MUST be able to speak to that logic rather than demand against that God given logic. This is why we follow the tradition rather than just the bible. I believe the results speak for themselves and we will continue to see a loss in Evangelical and Fundamentalism due to the inability to engage that wisdom. There are some protestant denominations that get it right, but they aren't the loudest. It is usually the one embarrassing all Christians that are the loudest. Where I have to go and undo the damage (as I seem to have to do daily).

@m4641

3 жыл бұрын

Very thoughtful post. A quick comment on sola Scriptura... Having come from protestantism to Catholicism, I continue to be baffled by the dismissive nature protestants have concerning sola Scriptura. World literacy 200 years ago was roughly only 12%; and this was 300 years after Luther's 95 objections. Though thankfully today the numbers are nearly reversed, the doctrine doesn't seem to me to be creating church the "true" church. Now that all believers have the Holy Spirit to lead them to truth, each individual gets to decide what is true. Sola Scriptura (as far as it's implemented today) is relativism.

Thank you for producing content like this. It’s so encouraging to Catholics.

Great conversation! I also loved the fact it was an actual face-face talk.

I'm a catholoc, anti-liberal, Polish nationalist. I like Your show dear bishop, greetings!

@florian8599

3 жыл бұрын

Ahem, you meant "Catholic"... And Nationalism completely flies in the face of Christian siblinghood by baptism...

@Epiousios18

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings brother, how is the motherland? The guy who commented above me doesn't understand the pride of the Polish people, even those who weren't born there. Poles went through Hell on Earth and persevered, of course they have "national pride."

@arrow3741

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t the church condemn being loyal to an institution over the church itself? So how can you pride yourself into being a nationalist, exactly?

Today, having a clear faith based on the Creed of the Church is often labeled as fundamentalism. Whereas relativism, that is, letting oneself be “tossed here and there, carried about by every wind of doctrine” seems the only attitude that can cope with modern times. We are building a dictatorship of relativism that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate goal consists solely of one’s own ego and desires. -Pope Benedict XVI

I especially love Bishop Barron's definition of classic liberalism at 3:22 Thank you for all the rest of this excellent discussion too!

The father figure Bishop Barron talks about is so important - and I am happy to follow him

What a humble comment at 27:47 from Rubin! Very nice moment! Regarding Peterson and his ability to make Bible attractive THE MOST important fact was that he is NOT a religious figure. If a priest told the very same words such big crowds would never come and listen, that is a said but crucial fact, IMO. People simply hate obeying authorities, that is why religion is less and less popular. Everyone wants their own way of life. Ironically the greatest happiness lies in sharing things with others, doing them together. Why people love Christmas? Beause suddenly we all do the same things and we understand each other.

@Lerian_V

3 жыл бұрын

What makes us happy is being virtuous. Being virtuous means obeying God's laws for us. God who is our Father and Creator knows us more than we know ourselves, and therefore can only give us laws that are good for us and make us happy.

@doradonovan885

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, and what makes people listen to Jordan Peterson about the Bible is that he doesn't have an agenda and so nothing to prove or defend. So those who just want to know exactly what the whole Bible/ religious thing is all about are free to do so anonymously. And the benefit of doing that with others whose questions will help them find answers is what makes it not only attractive but possible.

Two of my favorite people to listen to and learn. Thanks!

I've have never felt more strongly that every thing in our secular culture is going really really insane. With out God, we're lost.

Wow this is an awesome video on faith and REAL liberalism!!! Great job Bishop Baron.

Jared, I listened riveted to the whole conversation .I wish my children would do so too. Respects to Dave- I was introduced to him through the interview with Bishop Barron on the Rubin Report . Thanks very much for the insights and God Bless.

I expected Jared to interview both DR and BRB. would love to see the word count. DR just could not stop talking and BRB humbly and politely spent a lot of time listening. I respect and appreciate BRB’s humility

@roxanardh

2 жыл бұрын

16:42 DR interrupts BRB to complain about statues being taken down. 🗣

Bishop Barron and Dave Rubin, what a great complimentary pair!

"Equality vs Equity", let that simple statement sink in...

@karianacullen2879

3 жыл бұрын

What are you saying?

Bishop Barron is one of my fav speakers, ever. I could listen to him speak 24/7.

Don’t agree with all of the analysis of wokeism but it’s alright I love seeing diverse Catholic perspectives. Amen al Espirtu Santo ❤️🥰❤️

Excellent video. Thank you for bringing back civil conversations with very respectable topics. God bless everyone

Such a great discussion! Thank you.

I wonder how many people truly appreciate what Bishop Barron was talking about, and how his words and bible are still relevant in the world of Wokeism. God gives you meaning and agency, Wokeidm gives you pride in autonomy. Pride in bible is original sin... Bishop Barron can always find answers in bible for any discourse.., amazing!

Fascinating, thought provoking conversation! This is dialogue and learning at its best - a wonderful back and forth and intent listening and engagement. Thank you all!

Bishop Barron is on fire here!

I wish my traddy friends would stop focusing on one issue with which he may possibly perhaps sort of kind of be at variance with Catholic customary thought. This guy is one of the few Bishops actually going out and talking and trying to teach the world what we Catholics actually believe!

I believe one problem our society has right now is that idealism is currently often misconstrued as naivete, and thus weakness. People are taught not to work towards the "unattainable" good by virtue of it being unattainable, whereas the point of the ideal is that it is something that you would constantly work towards bit by bit, and even if you cannot attain that ideal, you are still far better off as a person because of the effort and experience gained in pursuit of that ideal.

@RodrigoMera

Жыл бұрын

In that sense Idealism is core to Christianism, because Christ is the Logos.

@gpanthony

Жыл бұрын

@@RodrigoMera yes I belive that is so. Being as perfect as Christ may not be possible for us in this life, but the goal is for us to compete well for it, as Paul says.

There is hope to rationally think and understand our times. This intelligent, informed, calm discussion proves it.

Thank you to all intelligent people like Dave Rubin and Bishop Barron for standing up for reason.

I so love ze Bishop

Agree! If we as a society are not looking toward the same external moral ideal, we will tear this country apart.

The Tocqueville Effect: "The phenomenon in which as social conditions and opportunities improve, social frustration grows more quickly. The effect is based on Alexis de Tocqueville's observations on the French Revolution and later reforms in Europe and the United States. Another way to describe the effect is the aphorism "the appetite grows by what it feeds on". For instance, after greater social justice is achieved, there may be more fervent opposition to even smaller social injustices than before." This would also be an example of René Girard's Mimetic Theory, and as you both recognize here, is an infinite regress ("Battling to the End"), leading either to the Kingdom of God, or the Apocalypse.

THIS is GREAT! wow - what an education! thank you!

Interesting conversation. Thank you.

“A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both.” - Milton Friedman

I so miss a good healthy debate and argument or exchange of ideas without hostility and name calling these days. We can all learn from each other. Thank you for this marvelous interview. Viviane Decker

Excellent meeting of the minds

I love this discussion! People I respect and speaking issues that have been bothering me. Congratulations! We must have more conversations like this!

Wonderful! Amazing!

Absolutely brilliant.

Tears are where truth is.

Awesome conversation! Thanks!

This is so good. Brought up Jordan's influence too. Dave's great and Bishop Barron's super inciteful.

Interesting conversation.

Loved this conversation 👍🏼

Been wondering when Bishop Barron would invite Dave over for a talk. Finally! !

beautiful and deep conversation

I had already made this acknowledgement to my circle of friends and religious more than a year ago - that Jordan Peterson has remarkably achieved what the church fails, and still failing, to accomplish outside of the church walls. Unfortunately, JP is unique but fortunately, we are living in an era of digital technology where he can still reach a worldwide audience

Wonderful video, thanks for hosting this conversation. I very much believe this is evangelization, and that a great way to reach new audiences is to engage in conversation with them. I especially believe there are many potential converts among Dave Rubins audience these days.

Two men I admire, good convo

Yes. We are Catholics and we should be way ahead of everyone else in recognising this.

How whip-smart and articulate is Bishop Barron!

Superb conversion.

Bishop Barron is a blessing for this country. He speaks whereas other Catholic bishops say they aim for transparency, but say nothing and hide out waiting for someone else to step forward. No one ( very few)in Catholic hierarchy speaks the truth, dare not, for fear. Some fear losing a spot in their quest for higher position in higher

@kristinrusso1870

3 жыл бұрын

They are careerists as was McCarrick. Hierarchy behavior is a scandal.

@kristinrusso1870

3 жыл бұрын

In Peter’s words to Our Lord, “To whom shall we go?” In response to Christ’s question “Will you also leave?”

Dave Rubin is a mouthpiece of capital - Bishop Barron is a mouthpiece of the church. This is reflected in the quality of their arguments. I don’t think anyone should assume Bishop Barron agrees with Rubins ideology.

@GrantQuinn1

3 жыл бұрын

Except for all the times he agreed with him in his video...

@arrow3741

3 жыл бұрын

@@GrantQuinn1 That would all changed if Dave brought up his marriage to his husband. All agreement out of the window.

In debating/talking to someone I may disagree with 5 words I try to keep in mind. BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

This whole topic hinges on whether either of you define liberalism correctly. That’s a very big hurdle for anyone these days.

@maritheresereyes

3 жыл бұрын

@kptins I agree. Everything is changeable with them. How can you debate with people who continue to redefine terms at their whim?

@Jarek_73

3 жыл бұрын

@kptins What left uses most often is stoking envy in people. You don´t need education, patience, hard work, any particular ability to envy and hate your neighbour. That´s why it works so smoothly. "Look at him, he has more money and happiness than you! He OWES you a part of that, go and ask him to share it with you. If he rejects, destroy him and take what has left. This is socialism in which I lived until my early twenties. Unlike you, westerners, I recognize their language so very well. And can tell you right now the end of this "liberal" story - the total loss of freedom. Those who started that would eventually become victims of their own tactics. All of that was here before ...

@hootie017

3 жыл бұрын

Both the Alt Left and Right are trying to manipulate a message to the point where there is no message. Letting neither far side control the narrative is the key towards building a better world where people aren’t living in conditions thaw draw them to regurgitate whatever they’re told.

@costakeith9048

3 жыл бұрын

Not really, classical liberalism logically leads to progressivism and Marxism. The only reason people try to draw a distinction is because they find classical liberalism emotionally attractive, but disapprove of the logical consequences of liberalism; the problem is that this position is logically inconsistent.

@costakeith9048

3 жыл бұрын

@Harley Mann That's true, but the other side of that coin is that Protestantism is itself an extension of Scholasticism.

I don’t like to see our church get involved with politics because all priests and bishops have their own opinions. But they all agree to the word in the Bible so they should focus on that fundamental but in the other hand the bias in me appreciates the conversation with Rubin since I am a big supporter of his role in society. So I’m happy to see this but I’m scared what it could do to peoples opinion to the church

@bonniekent2580

3 жыл бұрын

Actually..we should be living daily our faith..making us morally responsible for our actions and decisions..if religion is a label it is inadequate if it is a way of life you are good to go

@Laissez_Faire

3 жыл бұрын

@@bonniekent2580 yeah I don’t disagree with that

@PatrickSteil

3 жыл бұрын

I think the one huge problem is that we have separated our discussions of politics and religion. Politics flows downstream of culture and if our culture is not commitee to God and his church we end up where we are today. Same story as told in the Bible over and over again

Yes.

If you go you'll see backing what you get. Many graces from God! Gifts that only He can gives you

Really great discussion.

That was quite edifying

I believe that the best way to solve problems and the lens by which we should treat issues plaguing us is by asking this: Are these problem solved by accepting the responsibility of individual morality and self-actualization? If so, then government isnt necessary.

Rights ARE very important but when people cannot obtain basic needs it does become hopeless when no clear path or opportunities are perceived. Hence things devolve.

Dear Bishop Barron, Thank you so much for this interview, I loved every moment of it. Just an amendment you mentioned the Catholic left but here on youtube there are on the Catholic right back to Pius V and nothing is right after the Council of Trent. No matter what you say some people will not engage in dialogue but in a diatribe, I also concur that my Dad always brought me to Church, and till I take my last breath I will always love him for that. May God Bless you and your ministry, Bishop Barron.

Well done.

i am muslium i like bishop barren conversation

Part of the problem with the classical liberal view of the individual is that it sees the person as self-contained autonomous unit. This especially becomes visible in the writings of someone like Ann Rand. In one respect this is true in that it is a reflection of the falleness of the human condition, but it does not reflect our true nature as person - as persons we are inter-connected with each other and as Metropolitan John Zizolous of Greece states in his book "Being as Communion", there is no such thing as one person. To be a person is to be in relation. This is also consistent with the Biblical message that we are created in the image of God. Eastern Orthodoxy has more completely maintained this important intuition whereas the west has often lost touch with this intuition especially since the Reformation.

Jordan is outside the camp. He was called and blessed to mission

Dave talked about David and Goliad, a small guy can fight a big guy, maybe Dave can fight Google... He forgot one thing that David was able to kill Goliad because he had help from God!

@roxanardh

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely, DR kerps pointing towards people and earthly things, where as BRB points up towards God always taking the conversation back to him.

7:00 excellent point about debate having its own market economy

The liberal conception of man - Man is treated by liberalism as primarily a self-interested kind of thing. Man looks out for his self-interest above all else, which may at times include the interests of others, but always in order to maximize his own self-interest. Since man has the essence of being self-interested, he becomes a good human in an Aristotelian sense when he achieves his self interest. The best way to make man good is therefore to remove as many obstacles which hinder the realization of his self-interest as possible. To achieve this end the government seeks to restrict self-interest as little as possible, and prevent private citizens from restricting each other’s self-interest as much as possible. Implicit in this is the axiom that all men are equal in a certain sense, “before the law,” for lack of a better term. From this it follows that the contract is the cornerstone of all human relationships, with contracts being how different self-interests are achieved through cooperation, and the government ensuring through laws and their enforcement that no contract obviously harms another’s self-interest.

Excellent deep-dive conversation. I feel sorry for the minority that gives it a thumb-down. But, Wokism needs misery and oppression...

I'm seriously beginning to think these kinds of videos should be shown in theaters, not only KZread. :O

I actually agree with what there saying!