Bishop Barron on The Last Acceptable Prejudice
Another part of a video series from Wordonfire.org. Bishop Barron will be commenting on subjects from modern day culture. For more visit www.wordonfire.org/
Another part of a video series from Wordonfire.org. Bishop Barron will be commenting on subjects from modern day culture. For more visit www.wordonfire.org/
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God bless you for that. Thanks very much for the prayers.
I went back to being Catholic and love it so much!!!!
@mikelarsonmusicman
2 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
Bishop Robert Barron is BOTH a bona fide Christian AND a Catholic; although not Catholic myself, I would highly recommend that people listen to him, but too many non-Catholics have the wrong ideas about the Catholic Church, which is too bad!
@franciscoabreu4893
4 жыл бұрын
Catholics are Christians
@marianserra8371
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, all that was nice to hear.
I live in The South, where there are Baptist Churches on every other block, there are alot of Catholics too.A few years back,we had a man that would stand across the street from Church EVERY(for a year)Sunday with large signs"woe-ing"the evils of Catholicism. I prayed briefly & approached him with my brother.We answered all of his"disputes" with him by pointing out his common held myths about Catholicism are FALSE. He never came back.The Grace of God & trying to KNOW MY FAITH helped tremendously
@marianserra8371
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Californian expat Catholic whom lives in Alabama. After 30 years it's still difficult. My daughter however, married a Catholic and my grandchildren all attend Catholic Schools.
@lalaithan
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps he never came back because he converted!
@johnstone7758
2 жыл бұрын
Live in Nelson County? lmao
@scott6504
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for standing up for our Faith.
i was talking to a kid at work about God.he said he was atheist and added that it perplexed him how christianity is the one religion that it is ok to bash while people are very careful to be politically correct regarding other faiths...i said maybe the devil attacks it because its real... i brought him a bible.
@sketchartist1964
8 жыл бұрын
+soapboxearth2 You gave him the right answer!
I am a cradle catholic and I am so tired of the negative vibes from protestants. Lord give me strength!!
Thank you Fr Baron you are a marvelous courageous person,and I enjoy your words very much.May God continue to Bless you and your ministry mightily. Amen.
@nellahashimoto1342
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fr Barron. We need you and we need your words. Love your programs ad your encouragement. Learning a lot. God bless ad keep you forever. Thank you
I am so grateful for the profound insights into the actual, divine and personal depths of our very being. I wonder how people get by without understanding Aquinas' final cause.. the end and purpose of all within us.
Father you are doing a service to the Church and to God. Keep posting! God bless you!
Thank you Bishop Barron for your clear teachings, and for dealing systematically with the various attacks on Catholicism.... there will always be those who oppose our faith, but the wisdom of God permits this. In some odd way, persecution of any kind is necessary for our spiritual growth
Greetings from a Catholic from the Czech Republic 🇨🇿. The country with the largest percentage of atheists in the world.
@nonfecittaliter4361
3 жыл бұрын
Why is that? The communist dictatorship (like in East Germany) had something to do with that, I presume?
@Kitiwake
2 жыл бұрын
@@nonfecittaliter4361 yeah... And look at the place...a moral desert.
Well said message that is good today as was 10 years ago. I pray that the Christian faith once again grows, strengthens our hearts and minds🙏🏼
@Nemesis000000 Oh yeah, Bill Maher is such an example of unbiased judgment! Give me a break.
As a person who is not Catholic, I believe we should all be supportive of Christians everywhere. The world sees a caricature of Christianity and part of this is on us as Christians. We must stop squabbling among ourselves and show the love of Jesus to the world.
@RomanusVII
6 жыл бұрын
John Mills Yes, indeed. But learn also, Christians have turned against their own kin. As Catholics, we are practically spat on, by everyone. All kinds of people; Protestants, Atheists, Muslims, Jews. They circle around Rome and utter all sorts of evil. I’m sure you may know this feeling, even if you aren’t Catholic. Am I wrong?
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
You've got it bishop. Stand firm our ground our belief system in love and conviction.
I am reading JESUS OF NAZARETH at the moment. Pope Emeritus Benedict is a wonderful theologian and, I think, a very spiritual person. I wish him good health.
I completely agree with this analysis. Anti-Catholicism (and anti-Christianity as a whole) is alive and well. I am constantly shocked at the comments posted on KZread videos and online news articles that pertain to Christianity, the Church, abortion, or any other "controversial" moral teaching. It's amazing how much "tolerance" they preach for everything and everyone EXCEPT for Christianity. When it comes to Jesus, the Church, etc., INtolerance is the name of the game.
I am so glad I watched this, while I am a funny Catholic, this still spoke to me, as do most of your videos. Thank you so much for all of this.
Praise God for you Bishop! I pray God will let me tell you my biblical cognitive thesis that can explain the prejudice and sex scandals to tell Pope Francis to heal God's hurting family!
Well said Fr. Robert. You would be the most awesome dinner-party guest.
We all have prejudice, we must be open and radically honest in our objective to clarify our subjective.
I love being a catholic and having an intimate relationship with Jesus. I believe unfortunately we will always have people that hate us because they do not want to look at themselves and there own misgivings. We may have to someday have to go as far as the apostle's to martyrdom for the love of our church. May we be so privileged.
Regardless of what you may, or may not, think of any particular religion, I trust that you are very patient, as you will have to wait a very long time.
Who is hated ? Catholics and the Catholic church are hated. Jesus said his followers would be hated---thank you for proving HIM right ! This assures me again just as when HE said to St. Peter, the head of the apostles, "behold I am with YOU all days, even unto the consummation of the world. Thanks again haters !
Father Barron: Write a book about this stuff, and cite your sources. I would love to read it. You're great, and you make the concepts and bedrocks of Christian religion clear to existentialists like me. Keep up the good work! :) I will never be a Christian, but at the same time, I can understand and respect Fr. Barron's commentary. Very insightful and he's given me much food for thought.
One of your best videos Father. Well said on the new athiests.
That is truly amazing!
very true and well said, Father
@JaneAlex09 Oh but the Pope has done much more than simply apologize. There have been major structural changes in the church in response to the scandal. Just take a look at the Dallas Accords from 2002 in order to see how the church in this country responded. Also, last year, there were precisely six priests credibly accused of child abuse--in a church of 70,000,000 Catholics and in a coterie of 45,000 priests. Things are getting substantially better.
Me too! Thanks GOD!!!
@wjm5972
8 жыл бұрын
+Rosangela Silva me three
If that is true, every school department in the US which shifts around teachers accused of abuse or molestation should be labeled as criminal... and that's pretty much all of them! Shifting an accused person to a position where they can do no harm while an investigation is going on protects both the accuser and the accused. It also punishes those who are unjustly accused of crimes they did not commit.
The Real Character of HIS Catholic Church Shared to all of us is Fatherly. Eternal
I needed to see this. I'm a Catholic in a small town. But, out of the 900 kids in my high school, only 60 are Catholic. I'm constantly being made fun of because my Faith. I also hear the classic, "You're the devil because of the fact you're Catholic. You think you're perfect." Which isn't true at all, and I don't think I'm perfect. Because I'M NOT. I just don't get it. The prejudice against Catholics is truly the last acceptable prejudice.
@Roper122 Who's denying that it's a major problem? And why would you put "the sexual abuse scandal" in scare quotes? It's a terrible scandal, which undermines the work of the church in every way. Again, who's denying any of this?
@Roper122 Well then, friend, I'll confess that I have no idea what your original post was meant to convey? I
@Mystagogia87 But friend, read the whole book and tell me that there is not a steady polemic against religion in general and Catholicism in particular.
@einsteindarwin8756
3 жыл бұрын
People start wars over religion.
@BishopBarron
3 жыл бұрын
@@einsteindarwin8756 Come on, friend. That's such a tired observation. Consult the statistics: something like 2-3% of all wars can be attributed to religion. In the twentieth century, for example, the great atheist regimes piled up tens of millions of corpses.
Vicious individuals exist in every social institute, and only the worst cowards will blame humans' all problems on one religion.
proving the good father right after all.
@hiswife2002 " I have nothing to defend myself FOR in this conversation " - Nope, but you must be able to defend your position... and I'm happy for you to admit that you can't. " it's not where I'm coming from " - Agreed, being able to defend your position is clearly not where you're coming from.
Father I am so glad you made this video because countless times I have had this discussion with friends and I find myself bombarded with their arguments concerning the apparent lack of "transparency" in the church. Where would you suggest someone to go to find a record of all the work the church is doing to combat this terrible wrong? Thank you and God bless you.
Proud to be Catholic.
Dude I love God, chillax
I am a convert to.the Catholic.Church after.i read.Jesus.words ".this is my.body ... and.this. i s my. blood". He who eats of.these.i will raise.them up." .I.have had.a.dreadful.traumatic.life and I wanted to get as close.to.Jesus as possible.
As a Protestant desiring to convert to Catholicism, I find the debate can be both enlightening and divisive. I personally seek to follow the Lord via the tenants, traditions, doctrines and dogma of the Catholic church. I believe these are, by and large, founded on the Holy Bible. Is Catholicism a perfect denomination? No. Is Protestantism a perfect denomination? No. Should these two denominations be engaged in "holy war" with one another? No. If we are, who is triumphant? Who is served? God? No, He weeps at this. Is mankind served? No. Mankind is embittered and decimated by this struggle. Let me have an end on it, "There is neither Jew, nor Greek, Scythian, nor slave, free nor bond, man or woman; but Christ is all and in all." I'm paraphrasing. But I trust I have made my point. I follow Christ, first, last and always. He has drawn me to the Catholic church, this is all Him, and none of me. He knows my needs, and I will find His provision for filling them there. If you are a Protestant, and that is where He leads you, then God bless and keep you, go in peace. Churches and denominations may change, God does not. Can I get an "Amen"?
@AnAngelOfMercy How do I feel personally about the RC faith? It is, quite simply, my salvation. I would never, ever abandon His Church because sin.....my own or other's. It is analogous to leaving my family because I or one of us has sinned. Unthinkable.
@Roper122 (con't 3)4. Some direct questions: Do you believe the Church should acknowledge when there has been criminal activity among her members? Has the Church done this? Do you believe the Church should remain silent in the face of accusations which are untrue, even if those accusations touch upon, or refer to, activity already acknowledged as proven true? Are defense against false accusations and acknowledgment of proven wrong-doing mutually exclusive?
@ascott251 But he's not guilty of a crime!
@Roper122 "mishandling" Yep, there was a mishandling of the sin that was, arguably, almost as bad as the original sin that caused a problem that needed to be handled in the first place. What a mess! And the Church SHOULD be held accountable, as it has. The members of the Church who engaged in this behavior have been exposed, the crimes brought to light, justice dealt, lessons learned, and reforms instituted.
@zztestenglish And the goal of ecumenism is for them to become Catholic. Thanks for the convo.
@zztestenglish - I don't mind your asking. :) My church is a nondenominational independent group with a pastor who graduated from a Baptist seminary. We're kind of half-Calvinist, Bible-preaching, with a heavy emphasis on missions and helping others through hard work and charity. We replace roofs for the local low-income families and send construction teams to help overseas. Indeed, nobody is righteous. I condone none of it, but neither do I condemn Catholicism for it.
@Roper122 "...anti-catholic sentiment is responsible for the backlash that the Church is experiencing". This is a good example of what is, IMO, the difficulty of communicating with you. I never said anti-Catholic sentiment is responsible for the backlash experienced by the Church. In fact, I said that anger was an appropriate response to the facts of sexual abuse within the Church.
@Roper122 Absolutely that's not the general interpretation among most critics of the letter. And yes, of course people are justified in raising their questions. If one didn't know that the Pontifical Secret absolutely does not prevent bishops from reporting abusers to the police, then one might conclude that Ratzinger intended to cover up abuses ...which is where this whole misunderstanding got started I think.
@Roper122 I don't think you are "listening". I didn't say that there weren't members of the Church who sinned. I also didn't say that there wasn't mishandling of the situation by those who were in leadership positions. In hindsight, the decisions made were poor ones, which prolonged and exacerbated the situation and were morally questionable.
@Roper122 So, then, show me where I pick and choose. If not between truth and lies, then between what and what? If you pick, if you choose, it pre-supposes a minimum of two possibilities.
@AnAngelOfMercy True, true. Thank you. Blessings to you too :)
@ned262626 The reasons for U.S. Department of Education disclaimer concerning Charol Shakeshaft's report on sexual abuse is in the preface: "It is important to note some of the Department’s reservations about the findings in the literature review. Specifically, the author focuses in large measure on a broad set of inappropriate behaviors designated as sexual misconduct rather than sexual abuse" Note that this initial disclaimer refers only to "some of the Departments reservations".
@Roper122 "in future" Wow. Great advice. You'd think someone would have said that to the general public at large, seeing as how there would then be no crime.
Love the Catholic Church.
@Roper122 "only man" I don't know if he's the ONLY man who could do the job; that's up to the Holy Spirit. I do think he's uniquely qualified to provide direction for resolution of these issues in a way that is fair, just, and consistent with Catholic teaching given his previous position and his tireless fight to remove those credibly accused.
Because of the political and dynastic parts of the Reformation, particularity in what is now the UK, Catholicism was equated with disloyalty (or divided loyalties) in the English-speaking world. I thought we had gotten past that... and at least we have from most of our fellow people of faith. The New Atheists and the Nones can be a discouragingly scary lot. One sad note, if you read US anti-Catholic rhetoric from the 1820s to 1850s and substitute the word Muslim for Catholic it reads the same.
@stephenandersen4625
8 жыл бұрын
Michael Montague a very thoughtful rejoinder. I am quaking in my boots at the power of your intellectual faculties. How could I have ever been so deluded? I must give up all I have and follow the man who can't spell my name right. (find a ridiculous dense? what?)
@stephenandersen4625
7 жыл бұрын
BlindTom61 i though was obscenity and adverbs. ;-)
@Roper122 "across all churches" The problem isn't that sexual abuse occurs in churches, the problem is broader than that. The problem is that sexual abuse is rampant in society and from society is where the churches get their members. Fighting the problem at the root is far more effective than cutting off branches.
@GideonsKnight I'd add also that you might need to pick your battles. Anyway you might want to challenge your teachers in class if you are up to it (although you might made an enemy... so beware ), so that he has to explain and defend his views against your criticism in public and not in private. Some professors think themselves as the carriers of pure truth, an enlightment to the 'poor ignorant students'... they need a good lesson and a good humbling.
Father, will you please do a much needed video on what protestants call the "apocrypha"?
@Roper122 I want to mention that I firmly believe there are certain cardinals and bishops that should be charged for aiding these abusive priests. And there are more who should at least be laicized, for other reasons (I don't know if you 've heard of Cardinal Sodano?). I just don't understand why people are giving Pope Benedict such a hard time. He was one of the few people in the Church who clearly and persistently worked to dismantle the system of abuse. It strikes me as a gross injustice.
@Roper122 "sentiment" It cannot be called prejudice to tell the truth. It CAN be called prejudice to distort or exxagerate the facts or to spread hatred.
@bayreuth79 (con't 2)Additionally, a central aim of the Inquisition was to convince and convert rather than simply to punish, as was the province of the secular courts. Another aim of the Inquisition was to protect both church teaching and nation. Secondly, why do you not mention the conversos of the Spanish Inquisition (which is what most people refer to, or think they know about, when mentioning the Inquisition)?
@newrev9er Oh by the way.. I've got no problem with the pointless backslapping. But just so you know, I personally never spam anyone. Ever. ( Unless of course it's really offensive ) So if you were spammed it wasn't me.
@Roper122 Bottom line: for whatever reason, it's on your agenda to portray the Church in as negative a light as possible, even if that means omitting truthful facts.
@Roper122 "off in your own world" (con't) Surely, if you opine that my thinking should be different, you can give me an example. At least then, I'd have some idea of where you're coming from because at this point, it's really not clear.
@hiswife2002 (con't 6) of how many were tortured and/or executed is available to all and admitted by historians, Catholics and non-Catholics alike, to be far less than held by popular myth as well as consistent with the strict limitations placed upon it by the Church?
@Roper122 " yup and when this happens, your organization loses credibility and respect... whether you like it or not." I can understand and accept that. It is a normal immediate reaction to a situation which is so disturbing. But those who are intellectually honest will do their research and make sure of the facts before making statements. And to spread hatred for an entire organization and it's members is not a withholding of respect as much as it is an active spread of prejudice.
@Roper122 Why is it a question of making me happy? Why isn't it a question of telling the truth? If I misunderstand, then it is your obligation to make yourself clearer. As far as I'm concerned, society HAS come along in bringing sexual abuse to the light, putting in place protections and keeping children safe. There's a long way to go, but any step forward is positive.
@wordonfirevideo Hmmm...I made no claim that he was guilty of a crime. In fact I specifically stated that I do not assume him to be guilty of anything. I merely remarked that IF he was found guilty of a crime, the fact that he enacted favorable policies within the church would not "absolve him of blame" as the initial comment stated. Or have I misunderstood the point JaneAlex09 made?
@Roper122 (con't 3)You are taking a specific statement and making a sweeping generalization with it. It only compounds the problem when you toss around adjectives such as "self-serving" and "ill-judged" to describe my actions. Adding words of personal attack, even if you can fall back on the old "Well, I wasn't talking about YOU personally", only adds acrimony to the conversation. This is what I've been saying from the start.
if i didnt get it right, how can you say i'm 'good' at guessing. if i am getting it wrong, i'd be 'bad' at guessing.
Hi spairparsdealer, which state are you from?
@newrev9er " I guess what I'm trying to say is that the intent behind the letter " - I guess what other people are trying to say is that you're welcome to your interpretation, but others read it differently, and given the situation it would seem they are at the very least justified in raising questions. Although it's possible that the pope's intent was to engage in a widespread campaign to reveal as much as possible about any scandal.. but that's not the general interpretation.
@Roper122 "50 years ago" I doubt it. I'm pretty sure I would have said what I would say if you told me the Church will still be struggling with abusive priests 50 years from now, which is that I hope and pray that is not the case but, regardless, the Church's teachings remain the truth handed down to us from Jesus whether those who commit to uphold those teachings are sinners or are not sinners.
Not much of an argument there, friend.
@Roper122 "Nowhere did I ever say that." Please show by verbatim quote where you have included mention of the Church reforms and their efficacy in your posts. "elegant out" I don't see anything either "elegant" or an "out" about revealing a deep-seated prejudice that obsesses on negatives. "organizations" That is changing, thank God.
@Roper122 - I believe what I'm saying. - I said people were justified in raising questions, I never said suspicion is unjust. - I don't see how what the rest of the world believes has any bearing on the point. I've given you several explanations of the contenet of the letter, and I still haven't seen any counter argument from you except for fallacious appeals to the majority. -As for oppinions, those should be informed by facts, not fantasy. -Why not fix the problem instead?
@newrev9er .. Sounds like he did read the letter. Of course, it's his right to be the first person to read it, and to read it behind closed doors, and not to let you know what he thought of it, for at least 10 years after you become an adult... no, wait.
Looks like a DVD series behind you on the shelf, Father. Care to tells us what it is?
Question? Dosen't Catholicism claim that the Catholic Church is the one and only apostolic "way" to the Kingdom, that Protestants cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven? I've been watching YT's ChurchMilitant channel, and I've heard John Vortis say it. Please clarify.
@jereuter01
3 жыл бұрын
And here we are late 2020 with McCarrick scandal, Virgano papers, and phony Catholic abortion on demand President-Elect (?) Biden rhe decades long supporter of abortion on demand from conception even unto post birth, and his anti-Catholic VP Harris who adamantly states from her newfound soapbox to all of America that, "The Knights of Columbus is a white racist organization" whose membership is composed of white male racists. Despite these verifiable facts, the Pope embraces Biden in his Castle in Rome and the American bishops reaction to Harris, one xan hear a pin drop. Where the hell IS the Catholic Church? Nowhere to be found, a timid, hypocritical, corrupt institution with silver-tongued warriors like Barron here endeavoring to launder the stained clerical garb and absolve in the confessional by sodomites the dwindling penitents from its pews.
No elaboration was required; re-read my second reply; the whole meaning of the relevant content as it applies is self-contained.
@hiswife2002 " Easy to fail to deal with something never quite stated " - No actually .. easy to deal with something that you either don't understand, or ignore.. I suspect both.
A yesteryears poet named Peter Viereck called the anti-Catholic rhetoric to be "the thinking man's anti-semitism." Not suggesting that Catholics are being lined up, but the prejudice against Catholics (and not just Catholics--protestants too) is extremely acceptable...and even many times encouraged.
Nice Video Father Barron. Not many people know what is the participation of Pope Benedict XVI in the Prosecution of these Sinful Priest.
@koollikesnow I know. Secularism is such a silly ideology. I shouldn't laugh at it, but I can't help myself.
@hiswife2002 " If you can't look back through my statements and see the mention of the victims " - Here's your questions.. please point out to me where the victims are mentioned.. since that was what I said? " 1. Was pedophilia viewed as a "curable" disease? 2. What was the recommended course of treatment recommended for pedophilia? 3. What was the expert medical advice regarding the treatment and release of pedophiles back into the community (both in secular and in Church instances)? "
@Roper122 (con't) You are perhaps referring to what has been termed the "cover-up" of the scandals? Since at least 2002, the Catholic Church has been publicly accountable for it's actions regarding accusations of impropriety. Any "hiding" that was done, therefore, happened approximately 10 years ago. What would be the point of bring it up now?
@Roper122 "fail to deal" Easy to fail to deal with something never quite stated. "Funnily enough, I haven't accused you of being hateful, or lying, etc etc..." And that is supposed to dictate my actions how, exactly?
@bayreuth79 (con't 3) Conversos were those people, generally Muslim, who, in accordance with the law, converted to Catholicism. Plenty of the conversos converted and were peaceful, law-abiding citizens. They were not targets of the Inquisition. Others, however, made very public "conversions" while continuing to work with Muslim forces behind closed doors, providing intelligence to the Muslim armies and subverting national security.
@Roper122 "when you don't like the reality, simply pretend that the person pointing it out is hateful and evil and part of a conspiracy." Which of these "realities" of yours do you think I'm pretending is hate on your part?
@Roper122 (con't 4 ) If, in answering my questions, it becomes clear that we cannot come to an understanding of the position of the other, then I submit that our conversation is over. It is, as you very credibly pointed out, boring and time-consuming to continue a discussion where the participants are not discussing the same issue.
@bayreuth79 (con't) This "justice", conducted without lawyer, trial or judge, was based on popular opinion and consisted of torture and almost certain death to not only the accused, but to anyone who opposed this system of "justice". The establishment of the Inquisition was to bring a fair system of justice, one where evidence was presented and a trial was conducted.
"People who don't like having their beliefs laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
@bayreuth79 (con't 2) You cannot condemn the leaders of the Inquisition as despicable without condemning all of society at that time, from low to high, as well. To do so is not only illogical, it is an example of prejudice.
@hiswife2002 (con't 4) These conversos were the target of the Inquisition. It is unthinkable to us today to have no seperation of church and state (and indeed, it is a situation ripe for corruption), but there was no separation as such in medieval times. The actions of the double agent conversos was anlogous to a person coming to America from a foreign country, swearing allegiance to America and then cooperating with anti-American forces