This is why rules and regulations need to be written by people who know the job inside out, not by people that have no clue how

@LiamB1994

3 жыл бұрын

we've had years of removing "pests" that affect farm productivity, we need to learn to work with what we've got rather than shaping it to suit or own needs. the natural world is suffering because of it

@artiew8718

3 жыл бұрын

this is a problem with the stupefied nature of our society. Everyone is consuming dumbed down media instead of paying attention to the details of our society and how things work in practice. they have their dumb ideals and are too lazy to question them.

@LiamB1994

3 жыл бұрын

@@artiew8718 I think the right intention is there, its just going about it the wrong way. Things need improving yes, but we cant just go on exterminating everything that stands in the way. where do we draw the line? If all the crows were gone, farmers would be complaining about some other pest, and on goes the cycle.

@bushyjodes5121

3 жыл бұрын

There r other people outside from a different country that deal with it differently... and wks

@LiamB1994

3 жыл бұрын

@TheStefaner while i'm inclined to agree with that statement with the way things stand currently, we need to take whats happened along with global warming, overpopulation, overfishing etc, as a warning, or we will be the ones that will be exterminated. we need to change our ways, how many signs are we gonna get before its too late?

You can always count on politicians to make a bad situation worse.

@kimphilby7999

5 жыл бұрын

You have to shoot them where ever you see them....and i do n't mean the birds only...

@zs9372

3 жыл бұрын

Are you in the usa

@devinpatterson2185

3 жыл бұрын

Never fails.

@devinpatterson2185

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimphilby7999 lol if only it were socially acceptable.

@throngcleaver

3 жыл бұрын

@@devinpatterson2185 Just think, if a license to hunt them cost $1,000, we'd be completely free of them within a week!

wow. I didn't know ravens were so savage.

@user-us4hl3zr2b

2 жыл бұрын

They eat dead bodies dude

@Corzappy

2 жыл бұрын

You don't get to be one of the smartest animals on the planet without being a ruthless killer.

@MegaSockenschuss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Corzappy *laughs in human*

@godless-clump-of-cells

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MegaSockenschuss Humans, being primates, are the dominant and most intelligent species on Earth. However, birds are avian dinosaurs and have been climbing the evolutionary corpse pile for much longer.

@MegaSockenschuss

2 жыл бұрын

@@godless-clump-of-cells That's for sure. But in this race, I'd say, we do our best to compensate this "disadvantage of being millions of years late", with the amount of impact we have on our surroundings.

As someone who raised and showed sheep I find this very upsetting. However, there are things that the farmer/rancher can do. They can put their pregnant ewes in smaller pens a couple of weeks before they deliver, and not release them into open pastures until the lambs are two weeks to a month old. You can also easily train dogs to recognize the predating bird species. They can stay with the ewes and lambs once released and keep the avian predators away. I had a Whippet that protected my free range chickens from any birds of prey. He would run under any bird of prey barking until it left the property. He was fast and energetic enough to create such pressure that they wouldn't risk coming down on the chickens. He was amazing, and completely put an end to losses from birds of prey as long as I had chickens. Sadly, not reacting quickly with a solution makes the problem far more difficult to remedy. The predators have now become habituated to this easy food source. This will make it more challenging to pressure them enough that they give up the lambs as a food source. There's almost always a way for farmers and ranchers to successfully live along side of wildlife with little to no losses. If only they are willing to think outside the box and make some adjustments. There are solutions that don't require destroying our natural world or the animals in it. As a side note, that gigantic lamb that was stuck in the birth canal probably would have died anyway without the man's assistance with the delivery. This is another reason to segregate ewes in preparation for lambing. They can be in a concentrated area so they can be observed and assisted more successfully.

@atrocitus9198

2 жыл бұрын

thats a great plan.. and they need more dogs tbh. ravens wont even dare to try something if they see dogs

@adaminfiesto2533

2 жыл бұрын

730 acres of land... assume a guard dog can cover 30 acres... that's 23 dogs all needing food and training... certainly an increase of cost farmers shouldn't have to cover tbh...

@scudger99

2 жыл бұрын

@@adaminfiesto2533 Bullets are cheaper.

@smellyolegoat150

2 жыл бұрын

Dam Tito They have no reason to have dogs over the entire property. They aren't losing adults or even older lambs to predators. They only need a lambing pen, and a few dogs to cover the 20-30 acre area they have full term ewes and young lambs in. It's not difficult. Why shouldn't the farmers have to cover the minor costs I'm talking about. Those costs are just transferred to the consumers, and that wildlife belongs to all of us. Not just the farmers and ranchers trying like any other business to squeeze every dime of profit out of their operation.

@smellyolegoat150

2 жыл бұрын

Jack Meoff Actually the long term and global costs of that ignorant and completely unethical way of thinking are eventually far more expensive than just doing the right thing in the beginning.

Ravens did this to a cow and calf when I was a boy, we also lost the cow. Dad opened season on Ravens after that.

@epycadventures

3 жыл бұрын

The black sky now stained with a red mist. Dad knew the mist would draw attention, but the smell of death just made it more exciting.

@stonemarten1400

3 жыл бұрын

Ravens are smart birds and can actually communicate to some extent with their pals; once they learn there's a genuine threat from humans for attacking livestock, they'll shy-off back to preying on rabbits, roadkill and the like.

@robertlivingston1634

3 жыл бұрын

@@stonemarten1400 oh yeah, once you shoot a couple you can't get within a quarter mile of them with a firearm

@TheBeefSlayer

3 жыл бұрын

@@stonemarten1400 no... they are very smart and will learn to avoid humans with guns and stay out of range.

@woodsman2433

3 жыл бұрын

75 grain Vmax from my .243 makes them disappear

The politicians will only realize this problem when their favourite restaurant didn't serve lamb chop anymore

@Samuraid77

3 жыл бұрын

Politcans should let the people have their firearms back so they can protect their property from wildlife. Either that or the farmers just need to get more dogs, don't know what else anyone wants polticans to do about it in such a "progressive" area of the world you can only expect the polticans to keep "progressing" far past the point of efficiency.

@miriamvivo4279

3 жыл бұрын

No firearms. Then poison

@zipyourlib8370

3 жыл бұрын

Whack all LibCommies & crows!

@zipyourlib8370

3 жыл бұрын

@@ITSMEAGAIN1 Well I'm going to eat more Beef & Lamb!!

@agradina

3 жыл бұрын

they shouldnt eat lamb anyway at restaurant its imoral and cruel to kill animals so young

I always stated live and let free, but seeing this has opened my eyes. 200 lambs is a lot of revenue that the farmers lost. I was shocked to see them attacking the ewe and lamb during the both procedure at their most vulnerable. It was upsetting seeing all those dead lambs.

@darthsphincter909

2 жыл бұрын

They will pick the tasty bits off lambs even after they've gotten stronger, if they can. These newborns literally cannot move fast or far enough to keep them off; and the mothers aren't able to keep flying predators off them 100% of the time. An eagle snatching a lamb and feeding is one thing, but a 7 ounce bird pecking the eyes off a newborn lamb and leaving it to rot is entirely another.

@DrCruel

Жыл бұрын

The people who are releasing even worse animals into the wild know this is bound to happen, but lie and say it wont. They also refuse to compensate the farmers. When they have video footage of it happening they even lie about that. Rabbit is it? Find out who these people are and sue them. Sue like the wind. Sue like a hurricane.

@FalconfromRF

Жыл бұрын

I doubt that ravens can kill 200 lambs, a few may be really were killed by ravens, but, there are diseases also. Lambs are vulnerable to diseases, and this is another reason to separate plegnant ewes.

Now I understand why my favorite sheep breeder, Sandi Broch, Raises her sheep in a huge barn.

Kudos to these gentlemen for being so extremely mature and well poised about such a frustrating situation.

@danielmorris9803

3 жыл бұрын

Farmers Don't Get Enough Credit And Respect... Yet They Make Our Foods And Stuff

@gerardburton1081

3 жыл бұрын

Its just so sad. That's all the government can do is tie the farmers hands behind their backs.

@chuckboy9372

3 жыл бұрын

Being so "mature" and tame is why they are in this mess.

@barking.dog.productions1777

3 жыл бұрын

@@chuckboy9372 cowed, and walking around with their tail between their legs wringing their hands is in no way admirable. Chuck, you would be killing you some birds too, wouldn't you?????

@chuckboy9372

3 жыл бұрын

@@barking.dog.productions1777 yep. No way I could watch a lamb be pecked to death. No way.

WoW - I have never ever heard of birds doing this. I feel so sad seeing dead newborn lambs. People don't realise how hard it is becoming for farmers to survive. They work bloody hard as well. 😔 🐑 🙏🏼

@kieranh2005

3 жыл бұрын

In New Zealand the native Kea are known for killing full grown sheep, by digging into their backs and eating the fat around the kidneys. Hawks and seagulls also eat the lambs, but I've never heard of them taking the approach these corvids do.

@balemonte727

3 жыл бұрын

yes, its pure evil, its an excuse to get rid of farms, it happening in California too

@margaretmcrae5642

3 жыл бұрын

Crows in Australia pick out ewes eyes while they are in labour. Then go pick at the lamb, pick at the ewes bottom. Honesty I am sure if you were down and unable to move, crows would feast on you too

@thedwightguy

3 жыл бұрын

It's bs. Ravens are opportunists but no, they don't "kill" lambs. Doesn't happen unless you let it happen.

@margaretmcrae5642

3 жыл бұрын

@@thedwightguy exactly, too big flocks, not shepherded properly, get ewes close to home in yards, feed them Lucerne pellets, good stuff etc, bad joke..this is big farma

That is one of the most horrific things I have ever watched in my life. I would have never known of this if I had not stumbled upon this video at 2am.

@crayfish3629

3 жыл бұрын

Funny that I’m also watching it at 2am 😁

@sunondalyons73

3 жыл бұрын

@@crayfish3629 Best documentary viewing hour.

@pcionr

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the real world

I like how they are recording the entire thing and then are also like, "we cant do anything"

@samjain6555

2 жыл бұрын

Legally they can't do anything

@frostychicken3652

2 жыл бұрын

@@samjain6555 sounds like BS

@andystephon871

2 жыл бұрын

@@samjain6555 I'm sure the farmer wouldn't have minded they chase off a bird until he gets there

@issacjetto668

2 жыл бұрын

would you be able to be at 2 places 200 m apart at the same time?

@bosesebi6685

2 жыл бұрын

They do it all the time in the wild. Actually, they need the footage.

Maybe have a trained dog in amongst the flock that chases ravens off. My friends spaniel was trained for that and she never lost a lamb.

@robertmintz63

3 жыл бұрын

Ari GSD . True but the dog will also chase away the foxes

@bradtyson

3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot the farmers could have/still can do. But obviously aren't....

@theotheseaeagle

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradtysonyea it’s because some farmers think that killing or exterminating everything is the only answer when there are other ways around it. Theres a reason so much of this country is biologically dead and that’s because people have killed everything. It’s only now that restrictions have been put in place that things seem to be recovering

@fcalin21

3 жыл бұрын

@@theotheseaeagle Like what ?

@theotheseaeagle

3 жыл бұрын

@@fcalin21 livestock guardian dogs, lambing indoors, alpacas and many other things. It’s really not that difficult

It's not just about the money it's about saving the lamb from being killed like this.

@keveneleven6134

5 жыл бұрын

Yet I saw a vegan in the comment with his stupid beliefs

@gailhildreth5974

4 жыл бұрын

Saving lambs from being killed????? They are killed by humans by the millions to be on your tables for Sunday lunch!!!

@medusa210562

4 жыл бұрын

@@gailhildreth5974 I am a Christian in my beliefs an animal can be killed as humanly as possible for human consumption. I says in my first comment "to be killed like this" If you are some kind of extreme nothing cannot be killed you are following an ideology I don't believe in

@kaigordon2900

3 жыл бұрын

@@medusa210562 they are not killed humanely by humans Excess sheep are on the land because of farmers, crows then eat them because they are opportunistic

@ewansweeney8477

3 жыл бұрын

⁹

Man... Nature is BRUTAL! There is no pity in this world.

@V01DIORE

2 жыл бұрын

If nature shall have no pity for man than neither man have pity for nature.

@user-sk9qo6ts8d

2 жыл бұрын

@@V01DIORE that's really unintelligent.

@V01DIORE

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-sk9qo6ts8d Says the one responding to a post 2 months ago. Also would you like to explain your conclusion?

@user-sk9qo6ts8d

2 жыл бұрын

@@V01DIORE once again your logic leaves me baffled. Goodluck. 👍

@V01DIORE

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-sk9qo6ts8d You are like a bot with your logic, you can’t even acknowledge a question and instead make irrelevant and unfounded statements. It is hardly surprising someone such as you has no comprehension of the truth.

When calving starts, put them inside. It seems like it would be much easier than this aftermath.

Here in Wyoming ranchers are allowed to shoot (anything) that threatens their livestock.

@matthewhaverkamp8657

3 жыл бұрын

That's good

@prinzeugenvansovoyen732

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewhaverkamp8657 even rare things like grizzlys or mountain lions?

@RadDadisRad

3 жыл бұрын

@@prinzeugenvansovoyen732 you can shoot anything as long as people don’t find out.

@epycadventures

3 жыл бұрын

In Arizona signs are posted that "Dogs Displaying Aggressive behavior to cattle will be shot." Wild birds destroying livestock? That's when it's time to clean the sky's

@dls951

3 жыл бұрын

SSS works good too

Disheartening after all their hard work and a tragic loss for the mother sheep.

@novaangle2183

2 жыл бұрын

He left the mother out there alone without help in case something bad happened. He is the reason the mother lost her babies and could have died herself. He is utterly lazy no sheep farmer i know does this.

@theotheseaeagle

Жыл бұрын

@@novaangle2183 I agree. There’s no point complaining unless your going to take the necessary measures to reduce lamb mortality which is lambing indoors. When you let sheep give birth in the field, you can’t always be on hand in case something goes wrong (eg if a lamb gets stuck) whilst if you lamb indoors you can always be on hand ready to help in case something goes wrong. There’s a reason indoor lambing has a higher success rate than leaving the sheep to do it themselves

If you're browsing the comments and you're less than 30 seconds into this vid; I suggest you turn back now.

I'm very enthusiastic about rewilding but this kind of perspective needs to be seen and heard, just as much as the rewilding concept needs to be furthered across the world where feasible.

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

Sheep aren't a wild animal they were made specifically as a livestock animal. You cant put livestock in a natural setting because their natural setting is being cared for by people.

@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin

2 жыл бұрын

"rewilding" is just more regressive self hating horsesh*t being sold as some kind of incoherent progress to the feeble minded. Lets undo all the hard work our ancestors did to make our environment safe and productive , fantastic....

@iamagooddog21

2 жыл бұрын

@@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin what are you on about?

@theotheseaeagle

2 жыл бұрын

@@shakes.dontknowwhatyergettin I don’t give crap about what our “ancestors” did. Are ancestors were the ones who enslaved people for profit, took over lands overseas and killed the natives, f*cked native ecosystems. If it wasn’t for humanity life would be going on as normal. The whole reason for rewilding is to make a better future we can coexist with nature. But city shits like you don’t think it’s possible since you can’t handle a few lambs dying which would most likely be brutally murdered for your consumption anyway

@joshportie

2 жыл бұрын

@@theotheseaeagle your ancestors are the Catholic church?

Ross, you NEED dogs. Proper flock guardians. ALL sheep farmers NEED dogs. (I'm a working dog lover. It's what they're bread for).

@portcullis5622

3 жыл бұрын

White or wholemeal?

@devinpatterson2185

3 жыл бұрын

Many more dogs and an air rifle.

@rustynail5691

3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone with brains @Corky341

@x4x4offroad87

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that dogs would be great but sometimes you just need to get rid of the problem we have a big problem over here in the States especially down south with Farrell hogs destroying crops and it's become a big thing for feral hog hunts

@my95buick

3 жыл бұрын

I saw a dog

Would never have believed this if I hadn't seen this video. This should be shown to Government Ministers to overturn the recent change in shooting crows and pigeons. They are very intelligent the crows etc, must have taken years for them to learn how to do this, just like in Australia where they learnt to put poisonous toads on their backs and eat them from the belly. Never shot an animal myself, but Im fully supportive of the Farmers on this one.

@nickmcarr617

5 жыл бұрын

Some animals plain old need shooting. Crows and ravens for instance. Poor fukn lambs.

@schuey089

5 жыл бұрын

Should take the dead lambs down to parliament, throw them on their desks and say now do something about it!

@wildbillharding

5 жыл бұрын

Do you seriously think that slippery weirdo Gove will do anything about this? He's too busy banning wood-burners and listening to a mentally- ill teenager, not to mention ignoring our British fishermen's rights.

@alikhan7903

5 жыл бұрын

Shoot the fuckers dead and feed them to the pigs.

@alexross7311

5 жыл бұрын

Elfin4 Nature is cruel, get used to it !

I'm by no means a city boy but I had no idea that ravens could do so much damage

Thank you for this insightful video, this is pretty raw footage of this farmers issue.

@robertdouglas8895

Жыл бұрын

Why does the narrator say he can't help? Is filming a slaughter more important than stopping one?

Politicians and bureaucrats making consequential decisions of which they have zero knowledge of the outcomes is a universal problem. Something needs to change.

@CrniWuk

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe sheep farmers are great experts on sheep and lamb. Maybe not on what would happen if you exterminate all the raves on the island. Think about it.

@bubblegumgun3292

3 жыл бұрын

anarcho capitalist revolution or don't bother

@quierodesign3958

3 жыл бұрын

They are well aware of the implications, but they are Marxists, so they don't want anybody owning anything but themselves.

@decodd1988

3 жыл бұрын

@@quierodesign3958 if you want an example of what Marxists are capable of doing, look at Brazil, here everything is untouchable, here we are poor in a country rich in resources.

@johnpatrickfay5288

3 жыл бұрын

A purge on politicians, Seems only fair at this point in time.

If they want to introduce these birds of prey, they ought to meet the farmers half way and finance a barn to enable indoor lambing where the lambs will be safe for the first few days of their lives.

@tpilot_error404

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Solution orientated . It's what they try with reindeer vs wolverines etc in Scandinavia. Or when a wolf has a territory around a possible pray farm , Predator Wildlife Protection organisations help finance ,support farmers updating their fencing to the highest level , avoiding conflicts between wildlife and farmers. A team of unpayed volunteers puts them up , makes shure everything is in place to keep wolf out . Action instead of talking , complaining or lobbying.

@novaangle2183

2 жыл бұрын

The eagles are not killing livestock, especially huge sheep. I think it's more likely that when the mother was giving birth the baby got stuck and died. Since the lazy farmer left her out there and wasn't there to help stop the death she walked around with dead babies for god knows how long. the crows saw a easy meal with a dead baby dangling out and ate. I blame the farmer.

@user-vm3hz9vf8e

2 жыл бұрын

The problem actually starts with one person trying to keep 1,750 head of sheep. No one needs to pay for lazy farmers to have free barns because they cant look after their livestock.

@onba7726

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-vm3hz9vf8e Yes, stupid lazy farmer providing warm cloths to people who have sub-zero winters. Seriously, having that much live stock is needed or else you don't produce enough to survive the 'dry' months were your not harvesting wool. Sheep need their coats in the winter. Also, there is no way a lazy person would even be a farmer, that work is hard as hell because you can't just leave them be. You need check for illness, broken fences, predation, vaccinate the young, and more. You're bigotry is showing, man. Check your privilege.

@onba7726

2 жыл бұрын

@@novaangle2183 The baby was not dead till the crows ate it. Birth takes hours, even for humans. Also did you even hear him saying he was helping a different sheep give birth? Do you think he can teleport or mind read animals' distress from miles away? Also, what blame is there if the baby was already dead? Sound like you're bull shitting and you know it.

shepherds in the alps have sheep dogs that stay with the flock all the time. Maybe get one of those. They protect against basically any predator and are too big for an eagle to see as prey.

When this happens in Scotland, the farmers use shotguns on the ravens.

@themajic1012

2 жыл бұрын

it's not allowed. it's crime her to kill ravens. you don't have laws in Scotland?

@StephenCowley001

2 жыл бұрын

@@themajic1012 There are laws in Scotland, but there is also a license system to allow farmers to protect livestock.

@g33k_Tech

2 жыл бұрын

maybe they should raised the ravens instead

@landi76

2 жыл бұрын

@@themajic1012 in england and scotland even the police have no guns . . .

@landi76

2 жыл бұрын

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I've lived in the countryside all my life and never realised that this was such a big problem, it really is news to me. I think Country File should show this. My sympathy to the farmers

@davt8615

3 жыл бұрын

You would never see this on countryfile goes against the BBC's agenda, there so out of touch with reality its actually scary! I have happily pasted corvids and pigeons for years and will keep on doing so regardless of what some spoon fed s**t weasels tell me

@spencersanderson1894

3 жыл бұрын

@@madisntit6547 doesn’t need to be a farmer to tell a bad practice when they see one.

@spencersanderson1894

3 жыл бұрын

@@madisntit6547 thats true you’re right. But the farmer knows when the sheep are pregnant or going to be pregnant so bring them in to a more secure enclosure for that bit, or even put some guard dogs with the herd, it may not stop everything but it will stop a lot, us humans need to find better ways to deal with predators rather than just killing them off, because in the wider scheme of things we need predators, many of them are keystone species. I understand the person before me may have used the wrong word or may mean something different but I can see what maybe he was trying to get at. Thank you for your honest and sensible reply good to have a chat and debate without people instantly thinking you’re trying to attack them.

@spencersanderson1894

3 жыл бұрын

@@madisntit6547 Yes I know someone who does that but yes you’re right it does need more recourses, maybe for the smaller farms there could be funding put in place for the loss of a sheep or for these extra recourses. I believe there are countries in Europe that do the same if a farmer loses a sheep to a predator. Yes sheep farming is hard, I have heard it doesn’t make much money without subsidies. I don’t want the farmers to be hurt by predatory animals but I also don’t want the predators to be killed unless absolutely necessary. It’s tough because we need to find solutions to help both the farmer and the wild animals.

@ianmalone8053

3 жыл бұрын

@@spencersanderson1894 once birds such as crows hid from birds of prey, being black they were easily seen ,their nests were raided by Martin’s and squirrels. Farmers , landowners removed these predators.A quick buck ?

I saw this happening 45 years ago in Shropshire crows were pecking lamb's eyes out as the lambs was being born.

I know someone who hired an ex-soldier for sniping the ravens, he was shooting from 1km away ravens for a week lmao

I didn't have livestock at that time, but my neighbor did and asked for my help to eliminate them. In a matter of months, we took care of the problem. You would have to drive a few miles out to even see one. Never lost a livestock again to a bird or an animal.

the politicians need wake up to have a eyeless toungless lamb in thier bed

@WadcaWymiaru

3 жыл бұрын

This is HIS fault! Not politicians...

@DD-cg1xg

3 жыл бұрын

The offer they can't refuse.

@aimfendi

3 жыл бұрын

And what about the birds, you would simply have them eradicated? This is their natural occupancy, remove them and dead lambs will be the least of your concerns, it’s a domino effect that will end humanity.

@beanpole8648

3 жыл бұрын

@@aimfendi killing 5 birds at most will keep them away for generations, birds have multiple chicks a year, where as a sheep will only have one maybe two lambs.

@beanpole8648

3 жыл бұрын

Plus there are so many more animals crows eat, they dont have to be killing the lambs.

So when the price of lamb rises in the supermarket/butchers then we can thank Mr Packham, people shouldn't meddle with things they don't understand

@sircumference5032

5 жыл бұрын

blame the EU for the 50% hike in prices of lamb.......and Halal.........95% of meat in UK is halal

@wullaballoo2642

5 жыл бұрын

That packham bellends probably a fucking vegan, farmers should load up their dead lambs onto trailers and dump them on his doorstep

@colstoun4762

5 жыл бұрын

Sir Cumference meat being halal has essentially zero effect on the price. Don’t try and spread hate where there is and should be none.

@LiamB1994

3 жыл бұрын

its a difficult one, he's trying to protect wild animals, you cant knock him for that, domesticated animals will always be around, we just need to adapt to the situation we find ourselves in rather than just exterminate every single thing that gets in the way.

@khalil7011

3 жыл бұрын

@@colstoun4762 Was thinking the same thing, it isn't even relevant.

Ravens.crows and magpies always get the 12 bore treatment on my land

@Bruh-bb1el

2 жыл бұрын

a

@RAGEHXARAGO

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic

@novaangle2183

2 жыл бұрын

Disgusting

Thankfully there were almost no ravens in the farming area where I grew up: just lots of crows. Now I better understand why one farmer I heard said: "They should shoot every raven but two and keep them in a museum or zoo."

Sorry for the farmers, sorry for the baby lambs who are being eaten while being born. This is just so sad and so terrible😢

Shared this video on Natural englads facebook page, as well as on the Support Chris Packham page, and his own page.

In Ontario Canada Ravens are now the second most frequent animal predating on calves and lambs. The farmers around here were indifferent to Ravens and crows, until recently. Predation is increasing and is now a problem. Ravens had protected status until now,(farmers only can remove them).

Sad a farmer can't have a shotgun for defending his flock. The ravens where I live are very shy for that reason alone.

@Trey4x4

2 жыл бұрын

Can't get close enough with a shotty. He hires snipers to help

@massimothetrog7111

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trey4x4 you don't have to get close, or even hit them. at 35-40 meters birdshot will give a raven a bad day but won't kill em. the sound alone makes most flee. ravens and crows are smart enough to back off after you've dusted their tail feathers. Unless the ravens on that side of the Atlantic are of sterner stuff than ours. a rifle would be a much better tool for the job, but as i understand, their pretty rare under English rule.

@Neokretai

2 жыл бұрын

@@massimothetrog7111 Most farmers have rifles/shotguns in the UK, it's only things like handguns that are hard to get. Main reason you don't use guns is because ravens have been a protected species for a good while now, their number collapsed in the past due to to farmers killing too many of them in the first place.

@Trey4x4

2 жыл бұрын

@@massimothetrog7111 still can't get that close to them

@massimothetrog7111

2 жыл бұрын

@@Neokretai i dis not know that, thanks

Decisions being taken by people it doesn't effect, farmers must be supported in controlling these predatory birds

5 жыл бұрын

In America we call that support firearms. We are free to protect our livestock in America. Those crows need a serious hunter to hunt them all day. This will work I guarantee. #TexasMadeMen

@shots.n.giggles6974

4 жыл бұрын

@ we have 'hunted' pests like crows and rats in the UK for dacades. Traps, dogs, guns. Is a pastime, but it isn't really pest control (otherwise the pest would all be gone years ago, wouldn't they).

4 жыл бұрын

@@shots.n.giggles6974 Wow...Really? Are you tryin' to tell me shooting them wont work? Are you saying it was done as a past time and isnt pest control?? Im speechless at your blatant ignorance and guessing you are a young kid. So listen here son: It is NOT a past time and it IS pest control. What in the hell are you talking about? You dont know anything about guns, crows, hunting, dogs or trapping anything. Let me tell you a story a Texas farmer who had a coyote problem and shot 16 in a few weeks this past season and eliminated the threat entirely, as well as other pest control as well. That farmer is me, and those rifles are mine as well as the right to own them on my land. So, I'm not sure you know what you're talkin' about city slicker from the UK. Good day from Texas, the greatest state in America!

@shots.n.giggles6974

4 жыл бұрын

@ Hi Seth, not sure a single assumption about me is correct. Do you enjoy shooting? If so, are you now a little sad that you have nothing left on your farm to shoot any more?

@shots.n.giggles6974

4 жыл бұрын

@ Sorry, my mistake. I didn't really mean to offend you. What I meant was that all the pest species on your farm are eradicated. Naturally, all the species you manage and carefully preseve for sport are still there.

this is why Natural England and Chris Packham have no idea what really goes on in the real countryside.

@markhedger6378

3 жыл бұрын

Vile bloak

I wouldn’t be as mad if the ravens at least would eat the whole thing like the hawks/eagles are...just the eyes and tongue??? That’s just brutal

@tomgibo

Ай бұрын

The lamb died because it got stuck in the birth canal and the farmer wasn't there to get it out. Better management would have stopped that problem, the problem is the farming practice.

pretty sure if the farmer put a local add out there would be plenty of people willing to shoot the crows, which in turn would more than likely scare off the majority of the protected predators.

@Ryan-yx9kz

2 жыл бұрын

but if you think about this from an ecological stand point, your just opening up the niche for the protected predators to fill. Less crows means less competition.

@micallef87

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest I’d be surprised if he couldn’t get a licence from DEFRA to kill the ravens anyway. Or the least he could do is use a bird scarer.

Ridiculous hunting regulations laws in UK!

@Seerwealth

5 жыл бұрын

LAWS in UK are so ridiculous even farting gets you in trouble, and jail, for polluting ozone.

@George-nx5lo

5 жыл бұрын

yes thank god we broke free, we have the right to protect our property and our business. It wouldn't fall under hunting, just pest regulation, you could sit out there and shoot eagles if they were taking your sheep. God bless the USA

@jameswagner6802

5 жыл бұрын

YET CRIMINALS OWN GUNS TRUST ME THEY DO.

@shots.n.giggles6974

4 жыл бұрын

@Luiz Botelho such as?

@luizbotelho6750

4 жыл бұрын

Shots .n. Giggles gun laws, hunting regulations, pest controls regulations....

Finally.. The BBC country phyl won't be showing the eyeless unborn lamb

Dogs are absolutely necessary in this type of situation. And well worth the expense given their losing hundreds of lambs!

@keen2b

3 жыл бұрын

Unworkable!!? The answers are already written here to this problem if you take the trouble to open your eyes!!

compensation for protective lambing pens might help.

I know what I would do if I was the owner of that farm. This is outrageous.

@hyena131

5 жыл бұрын

donal finn What would you do if you owned that farm?

@donalfinn4205

5 жыл бұрын

I would shoot the bloody crows and ravens of course! To hell with the stupid law.

@stephenrhodes7758

3 жыл бұрын

@@donalfinn4205 The farmer has every right to protect his livestock. The law must be changed, this should not be allowed to continue.

@donalfinn4205

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenrhodes7758 I’m not disagreeing with you!

@Lara-234

3 жыл бұрын

@@donalfinn4205 get livestock guardian dogs

I would love to see Chris Packham's reaction to this and have him watch it with the farmers

@kellysiefkas9595

3 жыл бұрын

He wouldn't care doesn't affect him.

@db9815

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely... because of his campaigning to stop the shooting of covids, he should directly be held responsible for the deaths of these lambs. Bet country file won’t show this.

I'm not from England, but over here we usually take the pregnant ewe and put them into pens sothat we can just keep an eye on them and make sure they're receiving proper aid.

This may be the most brutal side of nature I've ever seen. Being eaten alive literally as it is born into this world is too horrendous and I can't fathom the pain... it's like dark ages punishment. Please let us know what the general public can do to help if anything!

@theotheseaeagle

2 жыл бұрын

It’s nature. Leave it to do it’s thing, the lambs will be slaughtered when their fat enough anyway. The farmers don’t care about the lambs getting killed because it’s gruesome, most just want a tidy profit

@annika9348

2 жыл бұрын

@@theotheseaeagle true but I would want to help for the lambs sake, not for the farmers. They'll die either way but they shouldn't die suffering

@alanbush4192

2 жыл бұрын

@@theotheseaeagleWhat a prat you completely miss the point if they used this method to kill lambs in a slaughter house you would be outside jumping up and down protesting about the inhumane methods being used inside. But if the crows do it its OK is it ?. The farmer makes his livelihood from his livestock so yes he expects to make a profit at the end of the year so do think that makes him some kind psychopath who doesn't care about the welfare of his stock then ?

@theotheseaeagle

2 жыл бұрын

@@annika9348 they don’t suffer when crows kill them, most likely over in 4 - 5 minutes if not less

@annika9348

2 жыл бұрын

@@theotheseaeagle that makes me feel a tiny bit better... but still I can't imagine the pain those poor babies go through having their eyes pecked out

When there's no natural prey the predators will turn to livestock, compensate for the loses or provide for habitat restoration those are essentially the only realistic options.

@HubertofLiege

5 жыл бұрын

Blarg Kliggle shoot the predators

@eddardstark8673

4 жыл бұрын

Crows are just oppurtunistic. They don't have a set food source. They eat what they can when they can

@beawareofthegreatjjs

3 жыл бұрын

Instead of paying for loss the government should provide natural means of food for the crows, like berry bushes or bug farms

@V01DIORE

2 жыл бұрын

Send those “smart” birds a message with their fellow’s corpses, else unheeded unto extinction. What obligation to let them live? for they neither have regard for the lambs.

@melteddali8000

2 жыл бұрын

@@HubertofLiege that's how you get more crows eating lambs

This happens in the U.S. The government released cougars and bald eagles locally even though we tried to tell them there was NOT enough food here for them. There was not.

@thedwightguy

3 жыл бұрын

bs. there is no "release" of cougars and eagles in the USA. "the govt."? uh, right,

@user-yj3rf1zy7l

3 жыл бұрын

Numb skulls pulling things out of you know where. Some people just love to hear themselves spew #@$!#

@jacqueslefave4296

3 жыл бұрын

@@thedwightguy Yes, there was.

@maggiethedruid9010

3 жыл бұрын

@@thedwightguy gov do try to reintroduce species to areas they used to live so it wouldn't surprise me. The Yellowstone wolves caused all sorts of issues for the surrounding farms.

@thedwightguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@maggiethedruid9010 Perhaps from the Yellowstone corridor on up into Canada and along the known wildlife corridor all the way to Alaska, perhaps there should not have ever BEEN ranches. Yes, there are issues. Grizzly had to change their spring protein feast on Brook Trout because the introduction of lake trout in Y. Lake decimated the creek trout spawn. So the bears changed.........to Elk calves, and then o;nce re=programed, it's not a big jump to ranch calves. In FACT. 22 of 25 calf kill one spring were the bears, but OF COURSE, USA ranchers blamed the wolves. Who needs facts??

This is an outrage! These farmers deserve full compensation or be allowed to control those who get a taste for their livestock. We also have the same sort of problems in California with all of it’s restrictions written by those who have no clue of what is really going on, or how quickly things can get out of control. When loses really begin to mount up and those in charge can’t or are unwilling to help, there is an old saying you see pop up on social media called SSS. It is an abbreviation for Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up.

I would like to add that we here in the states recently had a pair of Bald eagles which are also considered to be a Sea Eagle kill 54 Lambs in the state of Idaho. It’s something that should be considered when introducing Sea Eagles back to the Isle. While I also appreciate conservation efforts I sometimes feel that it’s done with a mindset that would be sometimes considered recklessly idealistic by people who have good intentions. We all know what they say about good intentions. The road to hell is paved with them.

@mik3ymomo

2 жыл бұрын

@MetaliCanuck

@marycanary3871

2 жыл бұрын

stop farming sheep and let all animals live without human interference. that is the ethical and natural decision.

@mik3ymomo

2 жыл бұрын

@@marycanary3871 sheep will die if they are not sheered. Their coat becomes too heavy. Ignorance kills. Don’t speak on matters you have no understanding which are likely many.

@melteddali8000

2 жыл бұрын

That's a different bird idiot

@mik3ymomo

2 жыл бұрын

@@melteddali8000 obviously you don’t know what you are talking about. The American bald eagle is a type of sea eagle. Who’s the idiot? A basic Google search would tell you that. The ignorance and arrogance of people never cease to amaze me.

I wonder if this will be on BBC news.?

@jimwood

5 жыл бұрын

It certainly wants to be and get that idiot packham on there to explain why crow shooting is wrong.

@Fedaykin24

5 жыл бұрын

The BBC is an anti shooting organisation happy to be a vehicle for Packham and his extreme views so I wouldn't hold your breath

@bobbythompson3544

5 жыл бұрын

It won't be guys they don't do facts!

@kevinstrachan2650

5 жыл бұрын

No chance ! One corrupt organisation! Stopped paying tv licence years ago! Too much paedophilia and cover ups!

@muddogtracker7449

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, right after the special on peace in the Middle East.

Let's be plain about this. The public servants who are causing these problems are not misunderstanding the situation. The results they get are those they seek. Put up billboards with pictures of the lambs side-by-side with pictures of the politicians who make it happen.

@colinmiller8361

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!!

@JoeMaranophotography

5 жыл бұрын

That argument isn't sound. In turn you could just put up pictures of all the dead birds shot by farmers for questionable reasons.

@CenturianCornelious

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoeMaranophotography I made no argument. You are a moron.

@nobodynothingberg4886

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Marano lambs are worth more than crows. Only cognitive tards like you care about fucking crows

@louisazraels7072

3 жыл бұрын

public servants? it was not an administrative decision there was a direct vote on the matter.

Here in the US, when we had crow and racoon population problems on the farm we would just eradicate them. Sounds like your biggest problem is the city folk.

Jesus,those birds going off with the lamb looks horrifying

the farmers should send peckham and natural England the bill for the dead sheep ..

@ludo9234

5 жыл бұрын

Better still send the dead sheep .

@elizabethtaylor9321

5 жыл бұрын

I agree Ludo !

@vincentmckenna281

5 жыл бұрын

And send the dead lambs

@wullaballoo2642

5 жыл бұрын

Farmers accross the country do you have dead lambs due to vermin you aren't allowed to control? Pack em off to peckham, the cunt wont be able to leave his house for the mountain of dead animals piled up over it. Stupid wanker.

@JoeMaranophotography

5 жыл бұрын

The wildlife should send humans the bill for all the land we have taken from them. Consider this a token payment.

It's definitely sad, but what about that sheep? She feels and loves ... This is heartbreaking....🥺💔

@nevencuca1680

3 жыл бұрын

Last year our donkey Jenny had a deadborn. Her sadness was immense. She even tried to take care of other foal like it was her own. Really tragic to watch how her mind and feelings couldn’t cope with the idea after 12 months of carriage not to have her kid. Luckily, last week she gave birth to a beautiful girl that is not only healthy but the biggest and strongest among other two we recived last week.

@Anonymous-km5pj

3 жыл бұрын

@@nevencuca1680 amen amen , God bless you all there

@nevencuca1680

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous-km5pj thank you. Likewise friend.

@keen2b

3 жыл бұрын

Grow up!! Or shut up!!

@leenunn6446

3 жыл бұрын

Roast lamb Sunday dinner

One good reason to have a Home Field near to the farm for easier watch and protection of live stock.

What, I wonder, has the effect been on the Corvids with the re-introduction of the Eagles ?

This is why farmers in my area bring all the pregnant ewes in before they give birth so they can monitor and help the birthing process and prevent newborns being killed by crows and other predators. I honestly thought that was common practice and seems like a solution to what those farmers experience.

@keen2b

3 жыл бұрын

Thank goodness someone with common sense!!😊🇬🇧👍

@jase123111

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. That is how its always been done of most farms for centuries. This farmer and some others seem to be lazy or have no idea how to farm sheep!

@deltanovember1672

2 жыл бұрын

Last year he was a stockbroker.

@WhistlesToAnimals

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I actually just suggested that, and if he didn't have a barn, it might be worth it in the long run.

@LazyIRanch

2 жыл бұрын

This sheep rancher is extremely neglectful of his flock. Stop blaming the ravens! They only do this because the owner of the sheep allow it. I raise goats, and have NEVER had a crow or raven bother them! I have a border collie to protect them from predators, but most of all, I've spent years building a good relationship with the ravens who hang out here. Five years ago, I raised one from a baby that was rejected by his parents, probably because his beak was a little bit deformed. As he grew, the beak straightened out pretty well, but he will always have a little bit of a downward hook at the tip of his top beak which gives him a small gap. I think it actually helps him carry stuff, but it hasn't affected his ability to eat, he's a magnificent, healthy bird. As soon as he could fly, I let him go and he soared high, but came right back and I've continued to feed him ever since. If I forget to put food out, he comes and tells me. He somehow knows which window I'm closest to, and caws until I bring him food! I don't know when he started bringing me gifts, I only noticed after he left an old electronic Casio Databank watch (with no band) on the steps to my bedroom that I'd never seen before. Then I started paying better attention. One day I was out cutting brush with loppers getting ready for fire season. This bird and his mate watched me intently, sometimes cawing "advice". I thought it was just cute, but the next day he did something that shocked me! I heard him cawing excitedly outside my bedroom door, so I went out to see what was up. He flew away, but in that spot he left a tiny pair of titanium clippers, the kind Bonsai artists use to trim their trees! I have a lot of cannabis farms near me and these were obviously used to snip the buds off the plants to sell. Now that I've cleaned the sticky resin off them, they are really useful and I love them! I looked them up on Amazon, they retail for @ $16. That raven recognized that it was similar to the larger tool he saw me use the day before! That is the smartest thing I've ever seen an animal do! I'm getting quite a collection of gifts now. He seems to like objects that are sky blue, and he brought me a stone marble that's an inch in diameter. It looks like turquoise, but it's probably dyed howlite. It's really pretty, whatever it is, and a little spooky because it was my mom's favorite color. I'm going to make a pendant with that treasure!

Exactly the same on the farm in Dorset where I recently camped. Lambs being eaten alive by Ravens, Crows and Jackdaws. Natural England needs to make a huge apology very publicly and then take a long hard look at exactly what it is they think they stand for. It certainly isn't anything to do with the working landscape of England. Utterly shameful that the situation we have at present ever came to pass, but that is what seems to happen when 'suits' with a pair of green wellies are given responsibility for policy and the people in government could't give a toss because they are far too busy screwing up everything else. So sad to see these folks livelihoods so totally disregarded. Whoever thought re-introducing Sea Eagles next to a sheep farm was a good idea needs staking out for the Ravens......

@alanbush4192

2 жыл бұрын

our autistic friend Mr Packham bullied the woke and weak PC authority's into revoking the general licence which meant it became illegal to shoot (control} any COVIDS and so this is the situation that we ended up in

the greatest threat to the sheep farming industry is people who don't understand how sheep farming works.

There is a point to be debated here but it's lost through the ludicrous claim of 200 fatalities. Without presenting any evidence, that's just not credible. We're talking a single farm on a small island here, not the Australian outback.

It's time to take action and go straight to the rifle store with the best zoom zoom!

@apathyintheuk265

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaellawson6533 May be not practical for all farmers but I see your point.

@troyb.4101

3 жыл бұрын

I got three of them, Anitolian / great prinese, and kager mix, should weigh about 275 pounds when full grown.

@AgnotologyTV

3 жыл бұрын

bit late, the UK has all but turned it's back on the Magna Carta

@freud2253

3 жыл бұрын

Time to do some avian extermination

@willtheclimatealarmistsall7728

3 жыл бұрын

@@AgnotologyTV after only 800 or so years too! You'd think anything agreed on would hold fast for the rest of eternity wouldn't you? It's as if the world changes over time...

"A shepherd must tend to his flock, and at times, fight off the wolves " -- Rev. Oliver

@oak8728

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, just shoot the faking birds man. I’ll take some eagle feathers for my flies, thank you!

@jase123111

2 жыл бұрын

@@oak8728No.. just put the sheep in the barn for lambing. Oh, wait, that would take some effort and require the farmer to do some work. No need to shoot the poor birds. They have a right to be there and are beautiful to see, enhancing the country and helping to conserve the ecosystem.

@brentmckee5111

2 жыл бұрын

@@jase123111You have no idea about farming. Buy a farm - Invest a few million quid and see how you would respond to a fucking crow eating your lunch.

@oak8728

2 жыл бұрын

@@jase123111 you come from a shallow perspective.

@laurent1132

2 жыл бұрын

@@jase123111 “no need to shoot the poor birds” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a fucking snowflake! I shoot all types of birds, gives me buzz seeing the feathers go everywhere 😁

Why does the narrator say he can't help? Is filming a slaughter more important than stopping one?

Update w/ the bigger birds being released?

Imagine if all animals are as smart as a raven/crows. It would be chaotic.

@flyagaric007

3 жыл бұрын

it would be called "Human"

@rico99586

3 жыл бұрын

But if you are a cannibal, don't eat clowns. They taste funny.

@ronmann2755

3 жыл бұрын

@@flyagaric007 I saw a crow catch a living squirrel and only eat its brain.

@r.l.s.8079

3 жыл бұрын

They soon will be. Our bizarre approach to "varmint" control without any thought to the consequences will ensure that.

@jacobhoover1654

3 жыл бұрын

Lots are, but don't have the physical ability to take advantage of thier smarts ex: no fingers for tool use

should send packham the bill to pay for all this

@user-nl7vz4wt3t

5 жыл бұрын

Would love to see where he stands on this currently?

@kaigordon2900

3 жыл бұрын

What a stupid thing to say He cares and protects the useless killing of birds like crows because people are killing in excess Maybe Chris could reconsider some regulations but only if farmers change their methods to Its a compromise not an attack on Chris packham jesus 🤣

@adrianstuart921

3 жыл бұрын

Packham is responsible for the death of tens of thousands of song birds and lambs with the drivel that comes out of his mouth! A do-gooder doing no good what’s so ever!

i feel sad to watch this video, can see that the man is truely loving his job

I was laughed at by a woman whilst out walking my dog about this, she asked if my spaniel was a working dog and I said yes, she then said it was wrong of me to shoot, I explained this exact problem to her and she said it was all a lie and we make it up just to kill things

Shame on Chris Packham,you are no animal lover,poor lambs,poor farmer

@Seerwealth

5 жыл бұрын

Punk is just publicity seeker. Otherwise nobody would know him.

This is one of the reasons why the price of lamb is so high in your supermarkets.

@chaosdweller

3 жыл бұрын

Really...I've always wondered that. 🐑 chops are one of my favorite meals. I never understood why there so expensive.

What is the latest update on this story? Has there been any constructive solutions found for both the farmers and the conservation program?

@melteddali8000

2 жыл бұрын

The sheep farmer could a barn

I am new to this topic! But, if a pregnant sheep was near birth, could they be put in a barn when they are vulnerable? It might be worth building a barn in the long run, if one doesn't exist?

I wonder if we can send this to Chris Packham, let him see how heart breaking it must be for a farmer

@robertwillis4061

3 жыл бұрын

Happened before. Peckham screamed and whined. Until Police were involved.

Poor animals poor farmers!, bloody disgrace Packham should be held liable!!!!!!

@tonyashton780

5 жыл бұрын

I am sorry I don't live closer so I could offer my help for free. Just a ridiculous situation!, does anyone in either NE or DEFRA actually get out in the field and speak to landowners who are affected. Most likely not but happy to fed politically correct bullshit from the loudest tree huggers. Just so unfair when the potential problems are staring you in the face it's real life not fairytales!!!!!!!!

@tonyashton780

5 жыл бұрын

@union310 Corrupted brown nosing of the highest order!, its probably fake news. The man just cannot be rationally engaged and hates being presented with facts. The fact that the BBC employ him tells any reasonably intelligent person all you need to know.

@thejack9178

5 жыл бұрын

The farmers don't care about the animals they only care because they lose money

@tonyashton780

5 жыл бұрын

@@thejack9178 Sorry have to disagree regardless of end of animals life. Good husbandry care feeding play major parts in livestock farming. People have such short memories of farming and Countryside matters. Foot and Mouth Outbreak wiped out livestock on some farms.It is documented as a matter of FACT several farmers committed suicide due to loss of hundreds of years of family farm livestock. Some went bankrupt others died with thousands in their banks. Money is not the be all and end all some jobs are a labour of love or lifestyle choice. Don't be too quick to judge mate.

@thejack9178

5 жыл бұрын

@@tonyashton780 i am from the country side and I have seen what farmers do to animals I don't even think it's possible to farm animals and care about them. farmers do only care about money and tradition if they cared about animals they wouldn't be doing what they do. Sorry but in the end of the day people who farm animals will need to shut down to prevent the planet from getting completely destroyed, its not sustainable. But everyone is free to have their own opinion

Anybody ever heard of a 22 mag or a 17 hmr they work great on birds.

@BobbyIronsights

2 жыл бұрын

Can't get that in the UK.

@natedoyle5237

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobbyIronsights how cant you? 🤣 Know several people with those calibres in uk.. im only across the water in Ireland and own one of those mentioned

I hate it when reporters of people say as a defense mechanism 'people who don't know how the countryside works'. don't tarnish everyone with the same brush. Personally I'll listen to all opinions and and then make up my own mind.

When l worked as a land girl here in New Zealand l used to see magpies (ours are a different species to European ones) doing exactly the same thing to lambs here, they'd take the eyes out of a ewe too if she was down too long. Heartbreaking to see.

@davidwilkinson333

2 жыл бұрын

... and the Keas can be a similar problem too.

@nikiTricoteuse

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidwilkinson333 Yes. I know they're famous for stripping bits off cars, especially the rubber from the windscreen wipers. Saw an article recently saying they're getting sick from it. Do they attack baby animals as well?

Sea eagles can RARELY prey on farmstock, they are "shy" species. Mostly choosing solitude spots to live. Ravens on the orher hand are extremely oportunistic and will prey in on any meat source they can. Why you waiting on goverment to do something? I think this dont work anywhere on the world. Try to hire local falconers or let them work on your fields. Other birds, especialy ravens will not going to risk ambushing by trained raptor, and they will go elsewhere.

@shawnmclean7707

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saying this video is a political gimmick and there's no lamb really being eaten by the eagles? If the farmers know that most of their stock is killed by ravens and not eagles, why put out this video for policy? It makes no sense. Do the farmers not know about falconry? This seems like a genuine suggestion that someone should email it to them.

@alexdietz7362

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds expensive. Hire a hunter.

Totally agree. I live in the IOW and protested against the sea eagle project as they have no natural predator and originally the eagles were bred in the remote parts of north Scotland. The IOW was never a suitable site as it is a small, over populated island and would never have enough carrion to support these birds. I am going to write again to the RSPB and press about this, totally unacceptable!

Do they not use livestock guardian dogs? I have 2 and they hate crows and hawks and the like. As soon as they even see their shadow they're barking and jumping at them.

This video will never be shown in Walt Disney movie.

for pre-born sheep as well as lambs you should ensure separate rearing in closed and controlled rooms

@walterfisher9795

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly right !!

@joannleichliter4308

3 жыл бұрын

That simply is not possible logistically, unfortunately.

@marosstefak4968

3 жыл бұрын

@@joannleichliter4308 you will have to adapt that predators in nature will attack more vulnerable individuals such as brood, injured and pregnant, maybe you can build earth integrated house for sheep inhabitat.com/lord-of-the-rings-hobbiton-now-serves-as-sheep-farm/

@joannleichliter4308

3 жыл бұрын

@@marosstefak4968 That has always been the case.

@LMvdB02

2 жыл бұрын

@@joannleichliter4308 it's possible if you don't keep ridiculous amounts of sheep on your own

Simple answer is to apply for an individual licence to shoot the corvids prior to and during lambing and to agree compensation from the people who support the release of these birds for each lamb lost to Sea Eagles, if there is no agreement then the farmer has the right to protect his stock.

Get some Anatolian Shepherd dogs in to guard those sheep/lambs around the clock. 200 is a costly loss.

I know its a year ago but im sorry this has happened you all of you.

To many do gooders about that haven't got a clue.

@ironix1

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, they have more than a clue. Don’t be fooled.

@lukehollinrake3457

5 жыл бұрын

acecolin52 ravens were i live dont do this is it a specilised adaption of the area . but great blacked gulls kill lambs alot

@Seerwealth

5 жыл бұрын

What you expect from townies? They never venture out of LONDON walls.

@katepeters3168

5 жыл бұрын

@peter smithereens name call gets us no ware and ware would you be with out the hillbilly who grows your food

Why don't you put the mother lamb in the safe area before delivering her babies

If you own animals, you have a responsibility to provide for their welfare. This farmer should be brought up on animal cruelty charges.

This it what happens when your rights are slowly taken away.

@dforr2981

5 жыл бұрын

and that is the main reason I joined the NRA.

@matthewhale2464

5 жыл бұрын

Blah blah blah lol

@ironix1

5 жыл бұрын

You leave animals out in the field and you have made your choice. Pays your money, you make your choice. This is what happens all over the globe. Nature is cruel and we are the cruelest in nature by far. Same old story too many people to feed.

@JoeMaranophotography

5 жыл бұрын

Hopefully a Lion will use its rights on you one day aye ;)

@cadenkea9605

5 жыл бұрын

Joe Marano ?

Farming is all about balance and 99.9% of all farmers over the years have been farming in balance with Nature. But what Mr Packham has been doing is wrong. I will definitely support the farmers to get a reversal.

Imagine someone taken your eyes and tongue out during the delivery. The moment of delivery is very painful moment and they hit right at that moment, ravens.

If the asso's say it won't affect the farmers, than the asso's have no problem giving the farmers compensation.