Bipartisan Talks Are Already Doomed, Azimio Has No Leverage- Cyprian Nyamwamu

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  • @wangaim2
    @wangaim211 ай бұрын

    Cyprium - We just need a revolution in this country.

  • @josephwachira4708

    @josephwachira4708

    11 ай бұрын

    Good luck.

  • @RobinGachunji
    @RobinGachunji11 ай бұрын

    This guy now understands what Kenyans are saying... because I mean ...what is this, that this parties are going to talk about that we as Kenyans can't not be part of ....They should discuss this things in our presence if indeed they are about us.

  • @richardochola6382
    @richardochola638211 ай бұрын

    "Fish wont survive without water" so do politicians too wont do without people 😢

  • @baruasafi5880
    @baruasafi588011 ай бұрын

    I think Nyamwamu has captured the real mood of what Kenyans want. Kenya needs a revolution to get things from the hands of self-destruction. The talks are all about sweets and cakes for the benefit of the elite and politicians in particular.

  • @Ordinary8030

    @Ordinary8030

    11 ай бұрын

    Like Niger

  • @josiahwanjiku9187

    @josiahwanjiku9187

    11 ай бұрын

    A revolution just because your candidate failed for the upteenth time to win an election. Why don't you start a revolution from your county first? Ngatueni Governor wenu ndio tujue mko serious!

  • @variousplaces

    @variousplaces

    11 ай бұрын

    @@josiahwanjiku9187 Not because a candidate failed. No. It is because the rule of law and governance has become a pasttime in Kenya.

  • @Spectre-Turner20

    @Spectre-Turner20

    10 ай бұрын

    @@variousplaces uhuru/Raila regime violated it ten fold. Why didn't odm complain. It's because "baba" was happy.

  • @balikuddemberaymond8653
    @balikuddemberaymond865311 ай бұрын

    Thank you Spice fm, the talks should be beyond the politicians. Civil society/citizens should be part of the talks… and they should be exposed to the public in real time by either TV or radio, because transparency is becoming an issue.

  • @okellonjaramba9412

    @okellonjaramba9412

    11 ай бұрын

    How can I join you ? Okello Nyakwar Jaramba

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    Who are these people you say.

  • @cassyrex2023
    @cassyrex202311 ай бұрын

    🙋All kenyans are waiting for 1. Arbitration of the 2 (UDA and Azimio)severely compromised forces to bring peace. After they are the ones causing unrest in Kenya 2.All culprits of social injustice be brought to book.Though this is ambitious and will be a slow but sure process. 3. Implentation of reasonal taxes and the amendment of the controversial finance bill 4. Inclusivity of the public to decide on the issues that affect them. 5. Mobilization of forces; even from the diaspora. We are a nation with intelligence as our biggest resource; we need to deal with our issues once and for all. That self funding is the way to go. We all know the " one who pays the piper controls the tune". 👍That was a true and candid discussion

  • @azariah-theroof
    @azariah-theroof11 ай бұрын

    Spice, The theft from poor Kenyans in the name of University Fees is insane act. I will move my new two students to Uganda. Afadhali Museven. Azariah from Texas with Boss Leakey Henry.

  • @nyangaunyariki4253
    @nyangaunyariki425310 ай бұрын

    @Class of HomaBay High, 1993! Your Elders are watching!

  • @philncarolwachira1549
    @philncarolwachira154911 ай бұрын

    True kenyans need to understand.

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    The people in power cannot escape from their crimes against the people of nation. Parliament is captured and judiciary too.

  • @achiengmasiga4445
    @achiengmasiga444511 ай бұрын

    Ndu, wanting to talk is not a sudden happening. But you are right that these current talks are not about Kenyans, but about politicians

  • @davidngugi7210
    @davidngugi721011 ай бұрын

    If it's about Kenya, why two main coalitions?

  • @baruasafi5880
    @baruasafi588011 ай бұрын

    A politician aspires to win elections and a leader aspires to lead a people to success.

  • @davidngugi7210
    @davidngugi721011 ай бұрын

    Yes civil society but supposing most of them are substantially organs of parties that only come out as tools or pawns of them

  • @julianomirango9311
    @julianomirango931111 ай бұрын

    Cost of living is core.Without it the talks are doomed to fail.

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    Get your own copy machine with ink.

  • @raphael8021
    @raphael802110 ай бұрын

    As long as the talks are led and organized by politicians, there is nothing about Kenyans. Let's not be that foolish as Citizens to think politicians have solution to our problems.

  • @abulurther1517
    @abulurther151710 ай бұрын

    There is a process of changing the law. Nyamu you ca collect signatures and have constitution amendment.

  • @edbuoy
    @edbuoy11 ай бұрын

    Great thoughts but sounds very aloof especially that self funding bit

  • @jacintawaruimbo5321
    @jacintawaruimbo532111 ай бұрын

    These are talks for the elites what each can share to eat Kenyans want only working atmosphere where they can work peacefully and raise their families but that is different from what leaders want because they have more than the need to leave only what is missing in them is just power

  • @mapemanelson5540
    @mapemanelson554011 ай бұрын

    Salt, sauce!

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    Peaceful demonstration are not violence.

  • @franciscawaigwa2779

    @franciscawaigwa2779

    11 ай бұрын

    Sigolw.... True. But from Azimio ? Never. They are dangerous. We should send Azimio leader to visit south Africa to be shown and taught how to do it.

  • @silvershsadow2045
    @silvershsadow204511 ай бұрын

    Is it possible to sue the leadership of Uhuru over that debt? Jimmy Wanjigi suggests that it has happened before in Mozambique.

  • @richardochola6382
    @richardochola638211 ай бұрын

    My beloved country.... Youre so endowed with best brains... I DO HOPE we shall overcome

  • @Proudkenyaguy
    @Proudkenyaguy11 ай бұрын

    Salt can not glorify itself in the sauce, means only those consuming the sauce can glorify and appreciate the salt in the sauce.

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    Kenya in shambles.

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    There are two political parties involved.

  • @baruasafi5880
    @baruasafi588011 ай бұрын

    I think Nyamwamu has captured the real mood of what Kenyans want.

  • @richardochola6382

    @richardochola6382

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah methinks so too

  • @josephwachira4708

    @josephwachira4708

    11 ай бұрын

    Nope. He's spewing Shangri La theory that means zero in politics.

  • @baruasafi5880

    @baruasafi5880

    11 ай бұрын

    @@josephwachira4708 That's your opinion and you're fully entitled to it. Keep it up please brother. You're indeed very intelligent though deficient in your postulation.

  • @jacintawaruimbo5321
    @jacintawaruimbo532111 ай бұрын

    Where is there no representative for traders ordinary Wanjiku and faith leaders when will leaders stop confusing ordinary people they are thinking and talk about them

  • @mapemanelson5540
    @mapemanelson554011 ай бұрын

    Cyprian… eloquent

  • @jacintawaruimbo5321
    @jacintawaruimbo532111 ай бұрын

    One year on and we continue to talk about elites nothing else

  • @albanishmael7333
    @albanishmael733311 ай бұрын

    Ruto is not ready for talks. Indeed he does not want talks. Ruto plays hard politics and so Raila should play as hard if not harder.

  • @georgeonyullo4240
    @georgeonyullo424011 ай бұрын

    First, Nyamwamu also just wants to be one of those elites. There’s nothing he is talking about that has not been mentioned before. By the way, why hasn’t Nyamwamu convened the meeting that he is talking about.

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    Azimo and Odm don't have live bullets.

  • @variousplaces
    @variousplaces11 ай бұрын

    When we asked about Eurobond...Ruto and Uhuru told us we don't know how economics works. After 20years of Ruto and Uhuru combined are done. Ruto and Uhuru will commune from the same cell in KAMTI. 6 trillion was borrowed without approval. Somebody should protect this genetleman or else they will dissappear him the way they dissappeared Mwendwa Mbijjiwe et al. But even if they kill him...the civil space actors will still carry on

  • @Spectre-Turner20

    @Spectre-Turner20

    10 ай бұрын

    Scare mongering. Those were uhuru/raila's tactics. The president now is Hon. Ruto. He is more smart and doesn't require such tactics to lead.

  • @Spectre-Turner20

    @Spectre-Turner20

    10 ай бұрын

    And why did Raila and odm stop talking about eurobond after joining government in 2018-2022. They are also hypocrites.

  • @rachelkainda7465
    @rachelkainda746511 ай бұрын

    This guy is talking threat

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    Why do you say ODM and Azimio are violent they have no guns to kill anyone.

  • @Spectre-Turner20

    @Spectre-Turner20

    10 ай бұрын

    They have a deadly mindset which is more dangerous nthan guns and bullets. Self destructive.

  • @leahsifuma9901
    @leahsifuma990110 ай бұрын

    Bi- partisan is a total waste of time. Parliament is the place to debate policies.

  • @josephwachira4708
    @josephwachira470811 ай бұрын

    Good attempt Cyprian. He's looking for donor money. That's the trouble with the Kenyan elite

  • @jacintawaruimbo5321
    @jacintawaruimbo532111 ай бұрын

    How long will we stop putting reverse gear and move on we all know what is expected for these nonsense stop and nobody is open enough to talk

  • @nelpwogen4822
    @nelpwogen482211 ай бұрын

    You too, looking for something just using ordinary Kenyans. Don't lie

  • @winbern_BK_Bernard
    @winbern_BK_Bernard11 ай бұрын

    Kenyans never gets enough , every body pretends to represent us but end up with piece of blanket from constitution to now this. they said constitution will make kenya a new kenya here were are now..

  • @stove7197
    @stove719711 ай бұрын

    Nyamwamu completely botched the proverb😆...but he's mostly right about everything else

  • @josephwachira4708
    @josephwachira470811 ай бұрын

    Cyprian just spewing academic theory. What he's saying is good in class but nonsense in real politics.

  • @Spectre-Turner20
    @Spectre-Turner2010 ай бұрын

    Civil society died during uhurus time yet same issues you are talking about existed. Why double standards Nyamwamu. Anytime a Kalenjin rises to the seat of power, all manner of groupings rise up to side with raila. Are civil society not part of the ethnic agenda. Is civil society also dynastic. For the ten years of uhuru, you went mute including any other independent institution.

  • @sigolwidearemo8575
    @sigolwidearemo857511 ай бұрын

    Why have police resorted to brutality.

  • @oyay2821
    @oyay282111 ай бұрын

    Let Azimio go back to maadamano, this time they will cry blood tears

  • @franciscawaigwa2779

    @franciscawaigwa2779

    11 ай бұрын

    Azimio will learn the hard way.

  • @Ordinary8030

    @Ordinary8030

    11 ай бұрын

    This is how sick a society we have become? There was also Kanu, and they exited power. Don't be naive - look outside your tribe or party and see globally that people are taking power back to themselves. Never say never

  • @oyay2821

    @oyay2821

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Ordinary8030 dawa ni kotini, teargas, rungu au risasi. The choice is yours and your stupid maadamano's.

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