Bipartisan Talks Are Already Doomed, Azimio Has No Leverage- Cyprian Nyamwamu
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Cyprium - We just need a revolution in this country.
@josephwachira4708
11 ай бұрын
Good luck.
This guy now understands what Kenyans are saying... because I mean ...what is this, that this parties are going to talk about that we as Kenyans can't not be part of ....They should discuss this things in our presence if indeed they are about us.
"Fish wont survive without water" so do politicians too wont do without people 😢
I think Nyamwamu has captured the real mood of what Kenyans want. Kenya needs a revolution to get things from the hands of self-destruction. The talks are all about sweets and cakes for the benefit of the elite and politicians in particular.
@Ordinary8030
11 ай бұрын
Like Niger
@josiahwanjiku9187
11 ай бұрын
A revolution just because your candidate failed for the upteenth time to win an election. Why don't you start a revolution from your county first? Ngatueni Governor wenu ndio tujue mko serious!
@variousplaces
11 ай бұрын
@@josiahwanjiku9187 Not because a candidate failed. No. It is because the rule of law and governance has become a pasttime in Kenya.
@Spectre-Turner20
10 ай бұрын
@@variousplaces uhuru/Raila regime violated it ten fold. Why didn't odm complain. It's because "baba" was happy.
Thank you Spice fm, the talks should be beyond the politicians. Civil society/citizens should be part of the talks… and they should be exposed to the public in real time by either TV or radio, because transparency is becoming an issue.
@okellonjaramba9412
11 ай бұрын
How can I join you ? Okello Nyakwar Jaramba
Who are these people you say.
🙋All kenyans are waiting for 1. Arbitration of the 2 (UDA and Azimio)severely compromised forces to bring peace. After they are the ones causing unrest in Kenya 2.All culprits of social injustice be brought to book.Though this is ambitious and will be a slow but sure process. 3. Implentation of reasonal taxes and the amendment of the controversial finance bill 4. Inclusivity of the public to decide on the issues that affect them. 5. Mobilization of forces; even from the diaspora. We are a nation with intelligence as our biggest resource; we need to deal with our issues once and for all. That self funding is the way to go. We all know the " one who pays the piper controls the tune". 👍That was a true and candid discussion
Spice, The theft from poor Kenyans in the name of University Fees is insane act. I will move my new two students to Uganda. Afadhali Museven. Azariah from Texas with Boss Leakey Henry.
@Class of HomaBay High, 1993! Your Elders are watching!
True kenyans need to understand.
The people in power cannot escape from their crimes against the people of nation. Parliament is captured and judiciary too.
Ndu, wanting to talk is not a sudden happening. But you are right that these current talks are not about Kenyans, but about politicians
If it's about Kenya, why two main coalitions?
A politician aspires to win elections and a leader aspires to lead a people to success.
Yes civil society but supposing most of them are substantially organs of parties that only come out as tools or pawns of them
Cost of living is core.Without it the talks are doomed to fail.
Get your own copy machine with ink.
As long as the talks are led and organized by politicians, there is nothing about Kenyans. Let's not be that foolish as Citizens to think politicians have solution to our problems.
There is a process of changing the law. Nyamu you ca collect signatures and have constitution amendment.
Great thoughts but sounds very aloof especially that self funding bit
These are talks for the elites what each can share to eat Kenyans want only working atmosphere where they can work peacefully and raise their families but that is different from what leaders want because they have more than the need to leave only what is missing in them is just power
Salt, sauce!
Peaceful demonstration are not violence.
@franciscawaigwa2779
11 ай бұрын
Sigolw.... True. But from Azimio ? Never. They are dangerous. We should send Azimio leader to visit south Africa to be shown and taught how to do it.
Is it possible to sue the leadership of Uhuru over that debt? Jimmy Wanjigi suggests that it has happened before in Mozambique.
My beloved country.... Youre so endowed with best brains... I DO HOPE we shall overcome
Salt can not glorify itself in the sauce, means only those consuming the sauce can glorify and appreciate the salt in the sauce.
Kenya in shambles.
There are two political parties involved.
I think Nyamwamu has captured the real mood of what Kenyans want.
@richardochola6382
11 ай бұрын
Yeah methinks so too
@josephwachira4708
11 ай бұрын
Nope. He's spewing Shangri La theory that means zero in politics.
@baruasafi5880
11 ай бұрын
@@josephwachira4708 That's your opinion and you're fully entitled to it. Keep it up please brother. You're indeed very intelligent though deficient in your postulation.
Where is there no representative for traders ordinary Wanjiku and faith leaders when will leaders stop confusing ordinary people they are thinking and talk about them
Cyprian… eloquent
One year on and we continue to talk about elites nothing else
Ruto is not ready for talks. Indeed he does not want talks. Ruto plays hard politics and so Raila should play as hard if not harder.
First, Nyamwamu also just wants to be one of those elites. There’s nothing he is talking about that has not been mentioned before. By the way, why hasn’t Nyamwamu convened the meeting that he is talking about.
Azimo and Odm don't have live bullets.
When we asked about Eurobond...Ruto and Uhuru told us we don't know how economics works. After 20years of Ruto and Uhuru combined are done. Ruto and Uhuru will commune from the same cell in KAMTI. 6 trillion was borrowed without approval. Somebody should protect this genetleman or else they will dissappear him the way they dissappeared Mwendwa Mbijjiwe et al. But even if they kill him...the civil space actors will still carry on
@Spectre-Turner20
10 ай бұрын
Scare mongering. Those were uhuru/raila's tactics. The president now is Hon. Ruto. He is more smart and doesn't require such tactics to lead.
@Spectre-Turner20
10 ай бұрын
And why did Raila and odm stop talking about eurobond after joining government in 2018-2022. They are also hypocrites.
This guy is talking threat
Why do you say ODM and Azimio are violent they have no guns to kill anyone.
@Spectre-Turner20
10 ай бұрын
They have a deadly mindset which is more dangerous nthan guns and bullets. Self destructive.
Bi- partisan is a total waste of time. Parliament is the place to debate policies.
Good attempt Cyprian. He's looking for donor money. That's the trouble with the Kenyan elite
How long will we stop putting reverse gear and move on we all know what is expected for these nonsense stop and nobody is open enough to talk
You too, looking for something just using ordinary Kenyans. Don't lie
Kenyans never gets enough , every body pretends to represent us but end up with piece of blanket from constitution to now this. they said constitution will make kenya a new kenya here were are now..
Nyamwamu completely botched the proverb😆...but he's mostly right about everything else
Cyprian just spewing academic theory. What he's saying is good in class but nonsense in real politics.
Civil society died during uhurus time yet same issues you are talking about existed. Why double standards Nyamwamu. Anytime a Kalenjin rises to the seat of power, all manner of groupings rise up to side with raila. Are civil society not part of the ethnic agenda. Is civil society also dynastic. For the ten years of uhuru, you went mute including any other independent institution.
Why have police resorted to brutality.
Let Azimio go back to maadamano, this time they will cry blood tears
@franciscawaigwa2779
11 ай бұрын
Azimio will learn the hard way.
@Ordinary8030
11 ай бұрын
This is how sick a society we have become? There was also Kanu, and they exited power. Don't be naive - look outside your tribe or party and see globally that people are taking power back to themselves. Never say never
@oyay2821
11 ай бұрын
@@Ordinary8030 dawa ni kotini, teargas, rungu au risasi. The choice is yours and your stupid maadamano's.