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Bioplastics: Water resistant Casein Glue. Milk glue.

Using a formula I found in the book linked below, I make a water resistant glue that has been around for hundreds of years. This formula has been used in aircraft, boats, and is still used in exterior plywood. Selected for superior bonding strength over Urea-Resin glue.
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  • @Addybhoot93
    @Addybhoot935 жыл бұрын

    You are a genius man. ❤️

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are too kind sir. I am happy you found value in the video. Thank you.

  • @zakhoskins6404
    @zakhoskins64045 жыл бұрын

    Wow, great find. I've seen tons of beginner level recipes for various bioplastics and such that aren't waterproof (or at least resistant) plastered all over the internet, usually in the form of annoying listicles. This is by far the in depth reference I was hoping for. I look forward to trying some of these recipes out. Much obliged, and subbed.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have reformulated this a bit. I add Sodium Flouride to give it even more water resistance.

  • @mrcmountain6342
    @mrcmountain63424 жыл бұрын

    Great, thanks for the book-link also!

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure. It is worth trying just...everything in that book. Enjoy!

  • @adifajita
    @adifajita Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this wonderful and informative video. Can this adhesive be used for paper to stick on metal surfaces? Will it be brittle after drying and the paper may fall off?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I think it will stick to metal. Wood to wood, paper to paper is fine. I would be willing to try metal to metal. Give it a try, lay it on thick. Heat it in an oven at 200F for a few hours. Never tried wood to metal. I am building a greenhouse right now and I am using this formula. Check it out.

  • @ImranMalik-dl7wg
    @ImranMalik-dl7wg3 жыл бұрын

    It's really handy. Thanks for your expertise Sir.

  • @ImranMalik-dl7wg

    @ImranMalik-dl7wg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it suitable for scouring pad and foam solid joints. Please advise

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think so. But, it never hurts to try and see what

  • @henrym.5884
    @henrym.5884 Жыл бұрын

    Appreciation your Presentation very good and like to say Thank you very much.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked. I hope you become a regular.

  • @tany2191
    @tany21912 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it.

  • @pm1234
    @pm123410 ай бұрын

    Hello. I tried the one with urea, but it's not really waterproof. Is your waterproof in hot water? Is it waterproof after a long period? Thank you

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    10 ай бұрын

    This formula is only water resistant and has some issues with durability. I have another formula coming soon that should give longer lasting results. If you are in a hurry, email me and I will give you the formula, as it is too much to put here.

  • @randymarcellus9260
    @randymarcellus92603 жыл бұрын

    Well, this is surely the most useful video I've found about casein glue! One question, has any heating been applied to your process when stirring the ingredients for the WBUC formulation? Maybe on the hotplate magnetic mixer, or using warm water instead?? 'Cause I've tried that recipe myself and I was only able to get a sticky-but-too-watery solution, that remained liquid for days... I was wondering what could gone wrong (seems that urea didn't stirred as intended, some traces remained in the bottom... )

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did not heat. I only recorded the room temperature. It takes from 2 to 24 hours to mix, depending on how it clumps when it goes in water. I would say, give it more time to mix.

  • @randymarcellus9260

    @randymarcellus9260

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable I'll keep trying. Many thanks again for sharing this!

  • @siwlindblad7383
    @siwlindblad73832 жыл бұрын

    Hello, this is really interesting, i am working on biodegradable material as a sustainable "fabric" for fashion, but biodegradable material is soluble in water and therefore i wanted to coat the biomaterial with a bio substance that is water resistent. This video was really inspiring but what would you use of water resistant coating for clothing which needs to be flexible and bio-based?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yarn once was made from milk. Milk yarn dresses were popular and still a much sought after item on eBay. The yarn was manufactured in Italy. Look into QMilch, I think they are making it now. I haven't found a natural way to waterproof milk plastic, but milk yarn is processed similar to how rayon yarn is made. Rayon manufacture is so environmentally damaging, it is banned from manufacture in the US. Early days of Rayon fabric required it to be Dry Cleaned because Rayon wasn't waterproof. Whatever they did to do that is the same thing you will need for your yarn. Look up Viscose Rayon. Milk yarn sounds cool, but making it is not so cool. If you find a way to naturally waterproof milk plastic, let us know. That is the Holy Grail of bioplastics. In my opinion, bioplastic doesn't suit every application, but we would be wise to use it where we can and reduce items made from natural gas.

  • @siwlindblad7383

    @siwlindblad7383

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your help!

  • @miss.butterfly6745
    @miss.butterfly67454 жыл бұрын

    How many hours was it mixed for? What can i use to thicken the glue during application before it actually dries?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    2 if I remember correctly. If you want to try this, just do like I do....keep an eye on it.

  • @CeeKayz0rz
    @CeeKayz0rz3 жыл бұрын

    Is this food-safe with the addition of urea? Trying to make a food-safe glue that I can run into a cracked ceramic coffee mug (basically, immersion in the heated glue for time to allow it to flow into the crack, then removal, cleaning, and curing)... I think casein may be my ticket to this. I've found another recipe that calls for casein, sodium hydroxide, and calcium hydroxide, but unfortunately it is not a "waterproof" glue, but a "water resistant" glue, meaning use will most likely see it ultimately fail eventually (tho, another batch and application isn't the end of the world)....

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to say, milk glue for ceramics, glass, and pottery are a myth. This formula is not waterproof, it is water resistant.

  • @DeathEaterLink
    @DeathEaterLink Жыл бұрын

    Hello, for a school project, I may have access to a very large amount of casein / dried milk. What would you recommend as a good use for this starting reactant? Casein based glues? Plastics? Anything obvious I could be missing? Thanks so much

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    Жыл бұрын

    That is best to answer in an email. My email is martin20krunner@yahoo.com

  • @dianes3658
    @dianes36582 жыл бұрын

    Hello Sir, I am so glad I found you. Could you please tell me if this would work with yarn and dry hard to make a lamp globe? I was looking for eco friendly and fire retardant and this fits those two criteria. I am just leery of buying the ingredients if it won't work for my projects. Thank you, Diane

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, absolutely. You have a great idea.

  • @johndon7035
    @johndon70352 жыл бұрын

    If I may ask, how water resistant would casein + slaked lime be as compared to casein + borax + urea? Furthermore what ratio do you recommend for casein + slaked lime + water? Asking for hardwood gluing project

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a video to help you with your questions here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mWerttSiisy-f8o.html

  • @RahulJaiswal-gv1qr
    @RahulJaiswal-gv1qr4 жыл бұрын

    Mind-blowing fantastic

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear. I hope you try it out.

  • @parveenbanum5529
    @parveenbanum55294 жыл бұрын

    Hii sir, I am from Tamilnadu. Your slang is not clear to me. Shall you please list out the ingredients which you are used. I hope it will definitely useful for my project. You are so brilliant you found it. Thank you sir kindly replay

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your question and your kind words. This video is more about the book that I refer to in the link posted in the description below. I encourage you to read the book, as it contains all the formula I make. Here is the link, and good research. The book on this and other waterproof Casein glues, paints and adhesives are found: @t

  • @Ian140265
    @Ian1402653 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sir for the great video. Please could you comment on the suitability of this waterproof adhesive to be used as a denture adhesive. Thank you for any response.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would not consider it suitable.

  • @Ian140265

    @Ian140265

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sir, much appreciated.

  • @mquek465
    @mquek4652 жыл бұрын

    Hi can you use vinegar instead of borax?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great question. I have a series on Casein and the different ways to use it. I use vinegar in many of them.

  • @jomelzorilla1773
    @jomelzorilla17733 жыл бұрын

    That's very nice and informative video Sir, do u know how to make non-toxic and water based glue for leather bonding?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have included a link to a free book I get many of my recipes from. I am sure there is something in it for you. Check it out. It is in the description of several of my bioplastic videos.

  • @ManastirSukovo
    @ManastirSukovo5 жыл бұрын

    Dear Mark, can this formula be used to make waterproof paint as well? What is amount of NaF to get more water resistance? Thank you so much for useful recipes .

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am sure this formula can be added to milk paint.

  • @thevabhas7225
    @thevabhas72253 жыл бұрын

    Sir.... good for over future.. thanks.. This glue can i use emulsion paint or any weather seal product ..

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Once again, I explain all of these questions in the video. I am afraid you have to watch the video. Not ask questions of me to save you time.

  • @tanazhoushmandi9525
    @tanazhoushmandi95253 жыл бұрын

    Hello . I need your help please . My friend and I make a plastic from gelatin and glycerol ,we wanted to know that if we add these matrials to our plastic , they make it waterproof ?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know. This formula is not waterproof, it is water resistant.

  • @tanazhoushmandi9525

    @tanazhoushmandi9525

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable ok thank you so much

  • @arne6787
    @arne67873 жыл бұрын

    I seems that this could be used as a safer replacement for epoxy in composite materials.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is used to make plywood. Some older airplanes use this glue formula. Hope you get a lot of use from it.

  • @vdvbert
    @vdvbert4 жыл бұрын

    Nice video sir, it contains so much information. I also liked the link to the book which I downloaded immediately for further reading. I have some questions, you mentioned your own recipe (3th mixture) is waterproof and stays hard. But this hard, is it brittle or still flexible? And if its brittle, will adding glycerine it to become less brittle or do u have other suggestions? i want to use it as a leather-glue but its has to be flexible. thx

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    You need to use something called Hyde Glue, or Hide glue. It is waterproof and made from animal hide, and most certainly ideal for leather.

  • @evastosic516
    @evastosic5162 жыл бұрын

    Did you ever try yogurt cream cheese or saurcream?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have never tried. I think it would work if it is plain.

  • @lenny108
    @lenny1084 жыл бұрын

    The production of urea from inorganic raw materials was an important conceptual milestone in chemistry and is considered the birth of biochemistry. This synthesis showed that a metabolic product can be produced in the laboratory without biological raw materials, and ultimately led to the fall of the theory of vitalism.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which may give rise to a theory of Inviltalism. :)

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Correction. The theory of nonviltalism;)

  • @khalilurrehmanhanif7437

    @khalilurrehmanhanif7437

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi sir I have to ask question.i made wood white glue from pva+wheat flour+tio+ptf May I use your formula .borex.urea.casein. into my formula to be made Strong my glue and dry fast.or you have any suggestions for my formula to make strong and dry time fast

  • @user-tw4in4gu6p
    @user-tw4in4gu6p Жыл бұрын

    Hey great video! very informative. I have a few questions for a project I'm working on, hope you can answer some of them (: 1) what materials do you recommend using to make this glue non-toxic but still water-resistant? 2) do you know if this glue can be used as a good oxygen barrier? 3) what would you recommend using to make the glue thicker but still keep its qualities? 4) how long do you think it can last in an outdoor environment? thank you!!

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    Жыл бұрын

    1) This formula cannot be made NON toxic. Use a HYDE or a PVA glue. 2) It is an amazing oxygen barrier. Superior to plastic. 3) Use more Casein. 4) 2 weeks if fully exposed in gentle weather. And this also depends on what has been glued. It can be permanent on wood, metal and glass.

  • @user-tw4in4gu6p

    @user-tw4in4gu6p

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable thank you so much for the detailed answer. do you have an idea in mind for a natural material to make this glue or a bioplastic waterproof?

  • @sachin003333

    @sachin003333

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi sir Can u suggest me for inner layer coating for biodegradable bottles for water

  • @TheGrungy1
    @TheGrungy15 жыл бұрын

    Is casein waterproof as a plastic?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    5 жыл бұрын

    I will let you know in a year. You saw me make the first batch of this. Refer to what I say at 17:25

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    One year later, and after continuing to work with this, I can say this is ideal solution for one use plastic.

  • @meetyounever6923
    @meetyounever69233 жыл бұрын

    I'm an epoxy artist just trying to expand my knowledge on plastics in general, and find a safer alternative. I'd be nice to save to world and reduce my exposure to toxic fumes.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have come to the right place.

  • @adoreslaurel
    @adoreslaurel4 жыл бұрын

    I have read that the Mosquito aircraft was not suitable for use in the tropics as the glue used [was it casein?] did not stand up to the humidity.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had to look it up. I knew Casein was and is still used in aircraft and boats, as well as exterior plywood. No other glue in existence can beat Casein bonding strength. Very high humidity can soften the glue, but will regain it's bond strength as soon as it drys. I have flown in the Mosquito reconnaissance in Vietnam. Those babies are fast, fast and super agile.

  • @adoreslaurel

    @adoreslaurel

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable I worked after school in the 50's in a caravan factory and they used something called urea formaldehyde, no idea what it contained., Why would it be superior to Aqudhere {?} or Bondcrete, PVA based glue, when PVA dries on your clothing it's like water based paint, impossible to soak out.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adoreslaurel The reason I choose this type of glue are the Formaldehyde is rather nasty stuff and PVA is made from oil. It's a personal choice.

  • @adoreslaurel

    @adoreslaurel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable Very interesting, Thanks for that.

  • @javierarubilarparra8696
    @javierarubilarparra86963 жыл бұрын

    Can you eat it? or borax is toxic? Do you have a water resistant edible film?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have just what you are looking for here. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIuCqtGElam3hbg.html

  • @taipeikartman
    @taipeikartman2 жыл бұрын

    What happens if casein is inhaled?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Casein is powdered milk. It will not damage your lungs, but if you inhale a lot you can reach a point of respiratory distress. Wear a dust mask to be safe.

  • @dalgom191
    @dalgom1913 жыл бұрын

    sir plese help, what should i use except for casein in order to create a waterproof glue?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    urea-formaldehyde

  • @dalgom191

    @dalgom191

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable thanksss!!!

  • @user-ro4bu8hy2m
    @user-ro4bu8hy2m3 жыл бұрын

    Can I stirr with ma hands instead of Magnetic stirring machine ?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, of course you may. Get comfortable, it will take a few hours.

  • @msunil7569
    @msunil75694 жыл бұрын

    Great sir Iam looking for food grade waterproof glue for making disposable tablewares can you help me. thank you

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    You found it. Is this video I make a water resistant glue. Water proof would require Formaldehyde...not something you want to put in your mouth. Examine your task...you want to make a 1-use plastic, it does not need to last for more than 1 hour. Vinegar makes Casein more insoluble. Bioplastics are best suited for 1-use, ideal for tableware. If you need, you can introduce a second step. Coat your plastic with Shellac, then it will last much longer.

  • @msunil7569

    @msunil7569

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable Thank you sir

  • @mrassiwala2000

    @mrassiwala2000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GEOsustainable hi

  • @TheCyberHippie
    @TheCyberHippie4 жыл бұрын

    I was skimming the video to find where it was mentioned what the Urea source was but couldn't find it.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not usre what you are asking. You can buy Urea online.

  • @notabohlabano8680

    @notabohlabano8680

    2 жыл бұрын

    After following through the chats, urea was sourced from cow urine.

  • @tanazhoushmandi9525
    @tanazhoushmandi95253 жыл бұрын

    Would you please say the temperature of water?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    About 40C, if I remember. Just warm it a bit, without boiling.

  • @avadhootinamdar9109
    @avadhootinamdar91094 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Namaste I'm from India... I'm looking for water proof+food sefty glue for making Bamboo pulp utensils....!!

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Namaste.

  • @avadhootinamdar9109

    @avadhootinamdar9109

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your suggestions are valuable for me... !! Please guide

  • @arne6787
    @arne67873 жыл бұрын

    I would like a claylike casein that could be 3d printed.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like a great idea. Stay tuned, I have a bioplastic using Casein video in the works.

  • @arne6787

    @arne6787

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool, extrudable casein could be 3d printed now that they have come up with the printers that print out clay into artistic and structural parts. One woman on KZread has come up with a recipe for cement clay.

  • @irfanmughal9792
    @irfanmughal97923 жыл бұрын

    My language is Urdu. Write the name of the chemical and tell me please

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure. Casein, Borax, Urea, Vinegar, water are the list of ingredients.

  • @irfanmughal9792

    @irfanmughal9792

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @kiyannareynard-eu7ph
    @kiyannareynard-eu7ph5 ай бұрын

    100g of water should be exactly 100ml, at room temperature

  • @ziongite
    @ziongite Жыл бұрын

    Ammonia can be gained cheaply. Obviously water is cheap. Borax is cheap. Buying Casein itself isn't cheap, however you can get milk cheaply and there are common methods to extract the casein. With all this considered, it means you can make decent amount of glue for a very cheap price. Because store bough glue in large quantities, that is water resistant is expensive.

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    Жыл бұрын

    All good stuff. Agree.

  • @geetharao4554
    @geetharao45545 жыл бұрын

    Sir is this plastic 100% water proof?

  • @GEOsustainable

    @GEOsustainable

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you watch the entire video? Because, I tested it in front of the camera.