Watch the full episode here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/io5m2syniLzMnZs.html To see the entire series go to: kzread.info/head/PLUaRlPOu98p0clsG0U0jGoU91tl5q3-sK

Bill Johnson is an extremely good preacher

"I don't have the luxury to lower His standard to what I am good at..." -Bill J. So good!!

@theschrocks2405

3 жыл бұрын

No! He is a manipulator. That makes no sense biblically. 🥲

I hope Mike Winger or Justin Peters responds to this.

@jehubenyhvh6872

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ God had scoffers come against Him ... Paul did as well ... World not shy of self-righteousness hypocrites ... Hypo~critics ... Pray bless and forgive them ... They validate the Bible patterns in opposition of the patient Holy Spirit ... Humbling oneself is good ... Blessings

@ludwigamadeushaydn706

Жыл бұрын

​@@jehubenyhvh6872the Bible demands us to call out false teaching

I looove this church sooo much.

Two of my favorite teachers having a conversation about Jesus. Couldn't be better! Hope to see more of these conversations in the future.

The Lord is good- o my soul remember this every moment

Every thing is possible to THOSE WHO believe in him

I love the way you minister

Great job with these, guys!! So good & needed!

@maryjackson8189

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinkent333 Indeed!

Bill seems to imply that we are potentially capable of everything without exception that Jesus did because he was human in right relationship to the Father. I think what he misses is that the whole purpose of Jesus life and miracles was to convince the world and prove that Jesus was fundamentally DIFFERENT than everyone else. He did these signs and wonders so that people would believe that He was the Christ; to prove that He was the divine savior who took the sins of the world away, not to set a standard of miracles we should aspire to. We are not capable of doing everything that Jesus did no matter how good our relationship with the Father is.

@7safiya

3 жыл бұрын

We don't do the miracles. Jesus continues to perform miracles and healing by agency of the Church. It's a work of Grace.

@garyleemusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@7safiya agreed. Why doesn't he just say that.

@rogue

3 жыл бұрын

You will do greater things than these?

@rogue

3 жыл бұрын

Why did he spend all that time teaching his disciples to do what he did, and send them out into the world, telling them to teach others the same?

@garyleemusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogue Likely this means great in number, not in the quality of miracles/signs, which of course makes sense since Jesus would soon ascend to Heaven.

Tell me how Jesus of Nazareth became Plato ? The historical Jesus not only got transfigured from a prophetic poet to a Roman divine, but he also became transformed with the distinctive markings of a Platonic, even Neo-Platonic worldview. How, why, and when did the Platonic transfiguration occur?

You both are pillars of Grace and Truth in the Lord, our YHVH Elohim through Yehoshua Messiah by Ruach Hokadesh ... Appreciate your pure devotion to the authentic revealing of the character of God ...

@proof2.073

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinkent333 the devil comes to steal kill and destroy not GOD you don’t understand God you think with what you see God sees the future and how He will one day destroy all evil and make everything good again heaven and hell are judgement for the good and evil the world is broken because of sin. Catastrophe happen because of sin therefor God is slowing the cycle of things to continue until that special Day when He makes All things new again until then we ought to live by faith and not sight meaning believe for the best and not focus only on tragedy but even in times of tragedy God brings something good from it. You think simple and small and obvious you have to think bigger and more sophisticated than just watch and tell. I hope God opens your eyes

Jesus did everything he did dependent on the Father and at his order. He did miracles by the Holy Spirit, not by his own attributes. How do I know? That is what he said. It was the Father in him doing his work (John 14). The Gospel of John shows us this over and over.

🚨 I just saw this for the first time I really enjoyed this short segment between you guys, its really good and informative, different. Thank you! God bless you, protect you & guide you continously in Jesus Christ name Amen!🙏🏼✝️🧎🏻‍♂️🕊💪🏼 -KZread TheBookOfGian Podcast

Jesus is perfect theology does not even make any Scriptural sense!

When was this clip taken? Is it approx the upload date?

"letting kindness lead to repentance" 💌 Father and child connection. Malaki

“Letting kindness lead to repentance” so good!!!

Could someone give me a hint about which verses in the Bible Bill has in mind when he makes the argument that seeing Jesus as an example that we follow should includes miracles, signs or wonders because if Jesus did them as a man without sin and not as God then we must follow them, too (6:20 - 8:20)? I just wonder what is his biblical reasoning for this argument?

@sentinel790

3 жыл бұрын

Matthew 16:4-5,👈 Jesus talked about adulterous generation seeking after signs,Jesus just performed a miracle at that time,Jesus multiplied bread, there belly's were full they were greedy wanted more,sounds familiar?,then Jesus denyed performing a miracle ,bible says the Jews seek after a sign and the Greek after wonders, bethel needs to preach the Gospel, cause there circle theology and vain imaginations of chasing after Glory, only God gets Glory, not Bill Johnson, pray for discernment there's nothing bill Johnson can do too please God, they look past the gospel of Jesus like its nothing,✝️✝️✝️

@sentinel790

3 жыл бұрын

They seeked after sign Jesus didn't perform another miracle cause they wanted him too ,and there heart was wrong

@sentinel790

3 жыл бұрын

@Dean Agnor the Jews diffently wanted a sign and too test the whole time they were trying to get Jesus too say enough about him being God so they can get him killed,cause the pharisees had the authority to get people judged, if you noticed Jesus ran away from them right after that, Jesus did signs and miracles at certain times for certain reasons, the point I wanna help you sir is there theology is false,Jesus says you will do greater things the me, there will be some signs today,but not like they think,he's talking about we will have time more time too spread the gospel, they don't talk about gospel, they lie, I could go on and on

@sentinel790

3 жыл бұрын

@Dean Agnor Diffently not, diffently not works, preaching the gospel is not works, Jesus commanded one thing preach the Gospel too the nations, slander is not the same as discernment and calling out false teachers, which 26 out of 27 of the new testament books are talking about false teachers,why you think that is?we will have more time than Jesus too reach people with the Gospel, not heal more people, bring more people back to life than Jesus etc, our promise is in heaven,bill Johnson just changed his theology,from before this video, he said Jesus was only man on earth and not God before this video , I suggest brother you look up bethel online there's many people that debunk bethel's theology,ask the holy spirit too guide you

@sentinel790

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing we can do too inherit kingdom by works, preaching the gospel is not a work for receiving salvation but command of obedience after receiving salvation, but chasing signs and wonders and not telling people how too be saved so you can be on par with Jesus? God Bless You Sir✝️🙏🙏

Bill will you please pray for me Desiree Franks I'm told I'm bipolar all my life and I have to take medicine, but I know God can and will heal me in His perfect timing 🙏❤

@mab1ism

Жыл бұрын

How old are you?

We have got to somehow find a way to manifest what he is like🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🌸🌸🌸🌸✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

Literally read somewhere last night that He emptied Himself.. super interesting that. Especially considering that the HS was needed to do anything at all. Im thinkin that we can't escape Gods soverignty. Ultimately.

@brando92346

3 жыл бұрын

Bills teaching on Kenosis (he emptied himself) Philippians 2:7 is slightly skewed. This idea that Jesus didn’t do miracles as God, but only through the Holy Spirit is actually not taught in Scripture. I know you can string a few passages together out of context to make it say that, but it simply doesn’t say that. What Scripture does say in a tremendous volume of texts, is that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are One, and that they have always worked miracles together as One from the very Creation of the universe. This is essential to understand the Trinity. So Jesus didn’t “empty himself of his divinity” as Bill likes to teach. The word “divinity” isn’t in the Greek text of Philippians 2:7. What Philippians 2 is telling us is that Jesus humbled himself as a man, and became our servant, and we ought to treat each other in the same manner. That’s the whole context of the chapter. But it’s clear that when Jesus performed a miracle he did it through the Holy Spirit, from the Father, and it has always been that way, even before the incarnation. Example: Then the Lord [Son] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord [Father] out of heaven. Genesis 19:24 ESV Both the Father and the Son (Lord on earth, and Lord in Heaven) destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. So when Jesus says: “the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.” He’s telling the Jews who sought to kill him, that everything the Son does, the Father also does. The Holy Spirit is not completely silent in this either, for we see glimpses of the roles of all 3 persons of the Godhead working in tandem throughout the Scripture. And this is why Jesus told those Jewish leaders in John 8 “I and the Father are One.” So when Bill, and other NAR teachers are trying to show that since Jesus was merely performing miracles through the Holy Spirit, it isn’t anything special, it’s simply is not accurate. The reason Jesus performed miracles was not to glorify the Holy Spirit, but to demonstrate his own authority as God. And it’s the Holy Spirit’s role to point to Jesus, not the other way around: [this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,] 1 John 4:2 ESV After all, it was Jesus who appeared as a mere man. In order to be recognized as God, he performed miracles; and it was a big deal, because miracles aren’t done every day. They defy the natural order of things that God himself has set in place, and only God can legitimately (in reality) defy the natural order. [For which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Rise and walk’? 6 But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”-he then said to the paralytic-“Rise, pick up your bed and go home.” 7 And he rose and went home. 8 When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God, who had given such authority to men.] Matthew 9:5-8 ESV This is Jesus defying the natural order of things; an order that the Pharisees depended on for their authority. So when Jesus performed miracles right in front of them, and their egos were tarnished, the people recognized that they had been hoodwinked by imposters, disguising themselves as ministers of light. And that this Jesus, who stood in the midst of them was the true light. It’s a very powerful message that Bill diminishes by assuming that Jesus was merely performing something that we ourselves can do through the Holy Spirit. Well, no we can’t. Only God can do these things. And God will not heal everyone. He wouldn’t heal Paul of his thorn in the flesh, for example; even though he had given Paul the authority to heal others in His name. So this whole teaching that the Holy Spirit empowers us to perform miracles the same way Jesus did, is simply not Scriptural. Miracles are special events that occurred in the early church in order to establish the Apostles as the Church’s human foundation, with Christ as the head. And it’s all centered on the death and resurrection of Jesus, an historical event; which the Apostles witnessed, and they assured the historical record was completed and proclaimed.

@brando92346

3 жыл бұрын

@Dean Agnor Greetings. Here’s my response in 3 comments: 1/3 You: Thats quite a lot of deflection invested in order to support Holy Spirit minimalism. A: I don’t deflect. I have a great desire to know more precisely what God is telling us in His word. I believe that the modern Charismatic churchs’ focus on signs and wonders is actually a minimizing of God’s word, and Jesus’ authority. It also undermines the Holy Spirit’s authority, and therefore, is not of God’s Spirit, but some other worldly spirit; and there is a vast amount of teaching in Scripture to back that up. I believe that Bill Johnson’s theology is essentially “doctrines of demons,” and that Christians should avoid attending his church, or using Bethel’s music in worship. Bottom line in this is that Bethel attempts to minimize the power and authority of God’s word. Bill doesn’t even preach from God’s word; rather, he imparts spirits that change the church atmosphere from controlled and reverent worship in Jesus’ name, to uncontrolled tomfoolery, and the glorification of a spirit they believe is the Holy Spirit, but is not. Some discerning Christians have recognized it as a Gnostic, Kundalini spirit, not of Christ. You: Jesus said verbatim, "The works I do, YOU will do." A: That wouldn’t be “verbatim” what Jesus said, since it’s a snippet of a very long monologue by Jesus that covers 4 chapters in the gospel of John; and that lends context that is important, because this is God’s holy word. We do best to know what Jesus meant by what he said; rather than forcing it to say what we would like it to say. Agreed? So here’s the actual part you’re citing: [“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father. Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.] John 14:12 ESV First, notice that what you stated isn’t “verbatim.” Well in actual fact, we don’t really know precisely what Jesus said. We might know, but we don’t have the originals to compare. But suffice to say that this is a very accurate representation in English, of what Jesus said in another language; and this fact is important, because quite often certain ideas get “lost in translation.” But we can know for certain from Scripture what Jesus is not saying. I’m guessing that you believe Christians can do all the “works,” meaning all the miracles, signs and wonders, and even prophecy that Jesus did. Allow me to address this, because that is clearly not what he means. Here are some of the unique signs and wonders of Jesus: Preincarnate: -Created the universe. -Created biological life on earth, including human beings. -Destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. -Led the Israelites out of Egypt, and led them into the promised land. -Destroyed the city of Jericho. And many other miracles, signs and wonders. Incarnate -Raised a man from being dead for 4 days. -Prophesied the destruction of Jerusalem’s temple in his contemporary generation. -Prophesied his own suffering, death, and resurrection. -Prophesied his fame throughout all generations, and throughout the world. -Walked on water. -Changed the molecular properties of water in an instant, turning it into a supreme quality wine; which normally takes months or years. -Fed over 5,000 people with only a few bread loaves and fishes. -Controlled the wind, and calmed a storm. -raised himself from the dead. -Healed many (the actual number is unknown. -commanded evil spirits. And many other miracles, signs and wonders. Before ascension: -walked through walls. -vanished, reappearing elsewhere in an instant. -appeared to hundreds of witnesses alive. Ascended into Heaven. And many other miracles, signs and wonders. You: The plain meaning of this statement cannot be explained away with an argument of context. A: Nonsense. The context is everything. Contextualizing is not an attempt to “explain away,” but to understand the actual intent of the author. This is Hermeneutics 101. Part of the larger context is that Jesus also said that believers would do “greater works than these.” You left that part out, and it’s a huge part of the context, no matter what you believe, but particularly if you mean that “works” necessarily means “signs and wonders,” exclusively; because it would have to mean that believers could create universes, and be the gods of them; and that would lead to some problems in the area of blasphemy, and attempts to usurp God’s authority. And it would further make this passage a false prophecy, since, assuming that the Book of Acts mentions all of the more spectacular signs and wonders that only a few Apostles performed; none even come close to the actual volume and power of Jesus’ signs and wonders. Now another reason why context is everything in this passage, is that in the very next verse Jesus says to the Apostles: [Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.] John 14:13-14 ESV Now if in fact the believer had the ability to do the signs and wonders Jesus did on a whim, it would seem to be a bit redundant that Jesus would need to do whatever we ask him. But this passage seems to suggest that it is through a life of prayer that the Holy Spirit works in us, and not a life of naming, claiming, declaring and decreeing; an activity that hyper-Charismatic Christians are fond of, in the belief that they are able to perform the signs and wonders that Jesus performed. You: The entire lesson of I Cor 12 is a body representing Christ. Not a partial Christ. Christ. A: I’m not certain what you mean by a “partial Christ.” 1 Corinthians 12 speaks to the full ministry of the Holy Spirit in the early church, in the age of the apostles. It’s not a complete teaching about the Holy Spirit’s work, as there are other NT passages that give us a more complete description of what the Holy Spirit does in our lives. And that context is as important as this chapter alone. Again; context is everything here. If you want to understand the full witness of God’s revelation, you must be willing to allow Scripture to inform Scripture, rather than forcing meanings upon the text that aren’t there. But what you seem to be suggesting is that non-hyper-charismatic Christians worship a “partial Christ” because we don’t (pretend to) speak in tongues, (pretend to) prophesy, or (pretend to) heal people. And I would argue that there is no “partial Christ.” He’s the real deal, and every believer who confesses Jesus as their Lord and Savior has an equal measure of the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. The Holy Spirit works through professing Christians as a witness to the world to the saving power of Jesus Christ, and as the only way to the Father. Christ’s grace is imparted to every believer, not simply to those who opened themselves up to “another blessing,” arguably a spirit of fake signs and wonders, and not the true Jesus, who works out miracles in our lives inspite of ourselves and our weaknesses.

@brando92346

3 жыл бұрын

@Dean Agnor 2/3 You: The ministry of the Apostles VERY MUCH represented the ministry of Jesus. Yes, they did, and they did it EXCLUSIVELY through the power of the Holy Spirit. A: I fully agree with this statement. But I would add that the ministry of the apostles is unique, as was their OT counterparts, the Prophets, In forming the actual foundation of the Christian church, with Christ as the head. [So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone,] Ephesians 2:19-20 ESV We are “fellow citizens,” but we are not the foundation. The Prophets were witnesses to the pre-incarnate Jesus: [Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.] Hebrews 1:1-2 ESV [...that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago.] Acts 3:20b-21 ESV [You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me,] John 5:39 ESV And the Apostles were witnesses to the incarnate Jesus; his life, ministry, suffering, death, and resurrection. [And when they had entered, they went up to the upper room, where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot and Judas the son of James. All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.] Acts 1:13-14 ESV [So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us-one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.”] Acts 1:21-22 ESV And so they replaced Judas Iscariot with Matthias, by lot, and according to the criteria that he was a witness of all these things, as they were. That’s the foundation. And nobody can lay another foundation than what Jesus established. The entire passage from John chapters 13-16 in the upper room, at the Passover Feast covers the establishment of that foundation among the apostles, and there are many today who believe themselves to be a part of that foundation, when they are not. Jesus is addressing the 12 apostles as Israel’s witness, and it is these 12 apostles exclusively (minus Judas and plus Matthias), whose names are inscribed in the wall of the New Jerusalem in Revelation. There were, and will be only 12. Paul was uniquely chosen by Jesus as the “apostle to the Gentiles.” Thus; no Pope is in the line of succession of any of the apostles, and there are no apostles today, since the foundation has already been laid. Neither are there any modern day prophets, since that foundation is also already laid. The Testament to Jesus is complete. [But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.] 2 Timothy 3:14-17 ESV Hebrews 1 tells us that the foundation prophets were of the Old Testament, and the new foundation is Jesus himself (who chose the 12, and established the church through them).

@brando92346

3 жыл бұрын

@Dean Agnor 3/3 You: Jesus emptied Himself of equality with the Father. A: No passage of Scripture says that. I covered this fact in my previous comment. Philippians 2:7 does not mention deity, and Jesus has always been one with the father. He is equal with the Father, and if you read Philippians 2 in context, it says this directly. It was not that equality of which he was emptying himself; rather, it was his place at the right hand of the Father, since he became a man, and a servant. The whole context of Philippians 2 is that we should be servants to each other as Jesus was towards us. It’s not intended as a grand Christological proof of Jesus’ lack of divinity in the incarnation, as Bill Johnson seems to believe. But it is a proof of Jesus’ divine humility; which is one among many of his divine perfections. You: This is a direct statement not only of position, A: It’s not a direct statement, since as I already pointed out with Scriotural proofs, it is found nowhere in Scripture. ἀλλ᾽ ἑαυτὸν ἐκένωσεν μορφὴν δούλου λαβών ἐν ὁμοιώματι ἀνθρώπων γενόμενος· Phil 2:7 TR The word ἐκένωσεν (ekenosen), meaning to empty is where we derive the word kenosis. In the passage there’s no “divinity.” It’s thus, not talking about divinity at all. So when Bill Johnson says that Jesus emptied himself of his divinity, he’s not basing it on any Scriptural passage directly. Rather, he’s stringing this passage together with passages in John that are unrelated, in order to show that Jesus’ miracles were not that special, because he performed them not of himself, but only through the Holy Spirit, which is a gross misinterpretation of Scripture, and a blasphemous doctrine of demons, twisted, strung together in the way the devil lies, in order to deceive and lead astray. In one of his “sermons,” Bill actually stated that if Jesus did his miracles as Gods, he would be impressed, but then he went on to explain that he merely performed signs and wonders through the Holy Spirit, implying that it’s less impressive, and that we could do the same. This is nonsense. No Scripture says this. You: but of operation, and this is exactly Bill's intent when he mentioned "set aside His deity." A: Yeah, his intent is to deceive, because not once did Jesus ever set his divinity aside. He is the God-man; fully man, fully God, and equal to the Father. And there’s an abundance of proof for this throughout Scripture. You: The intent of Jesus was and STILL IS to demonstrate His authority AS GOD through Kingdom works through His people, Agreed to a point. The “works” part is the issue. I believe the Holy Spirit has worked through Christians in tremendous ways throughout history, as the corporate Church (the body of all believers) has in a miraculous manner, brought the saving grace and power of Jesus to a dying, sin-enslaved world in meaningful ways throughout it’s history. But at no time in this history with the exception of the age of the apostles in establishing the church, have individual Christians ever performed the kinds of miracles that Jesus performed, as proof of His divine power and authority. Any suggestion that they have us utterly unscriptural. God works out His will according to His own pleasure, and not at the whims and desires of the faithful. When we ask for things in Jesus’ name, he’s not going to act at our command, but according to His will; so we are best to align our desires with His will. Because we were chosen by Him for good works. You: and the Holy Spirit is the agent by faith. A: Agreed. But the Holy Spirit is God, and therefore sovereign. He is going to bring about the sovereign will of God either through us, or in spite of us. We had better test whatever spirit we’ve been accustomed to, and make sure it’s not one of the deceiving kind, but the true, sin-convicting, life-changing, Jesus glorifying Holy Spirit of truth. Blessings, my friend.

Jesus prioritized both sin and grace equally when he died on the cross and rose from the dead.

God is good! my wife's dream and mine is to study at BSSM. I know that someday God will allow it. greetings from Monterrey Mexico!

@justinlowder2173

3 жыл бұрын

God bless!!!

@victoriadue4565

3 жыл бұрын

When that day comes - I pray that you guys would receive crazy supernatural provision!!! I just finished 2 years there and it changed my life☺️

" we don't have the luxuary to lower Jesus standard if He was Jesus in man"... ? Jesus theology about sin and... to us

We should look to Jesus as revealed in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, yes... But also in Revelation, the epistles and the Old Testament messianic prophecies. All of Scripture reveals God's nature. Sometimes it comes across like Bill/Bethel are saying we should put the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) above the rest of Scripture. Which is dangerous territory.

@thegreatleviathon

3 жыл бұрын

Cool to see someone you listen to commenting on another series that you are listening to :) Love you and the ministry he's given you brother! I do appreciate their candor and humility in approaching this topic. As someone who has grown up in the church, I only viewed Jesus as the Son of God. This really created a separation in my mind as to my ability to have a relationship with Him and in how I perceived Him/His example. I had no comprehension of what it meant that He was the Son of Man (apart from being a human/flesh). Bill/Bethel (as well as others/Holy Spirit!) have helped me to understand him as BOTH, and what that reality means for me in a personal, beautiful way. I do agree with you that we need to approach this holistically. They did mention the Old Testament and how he is the same God and still our Abba. Unfortunately, this is only 17 minutes long :) This is also one reason why I appreciate ministries like yours brother! You address topics like prayer/intimacy that the Church often misses. AND as it appears throughout the entirety of scripture. (PS- your podcasts and info have been very helpful as we've launched a couple prayer and worship movements in our home and church)

@PresencePioneer

3 жыл бұрын

@@thegreatleviathon Thank you for this thoughtful and encouraging comment! Bless you brother!

@thegreatleviathon

3 жыл бұрын

@@PresencePioneer Amen brother- all for His kingdom :)

Matt 7:21 stop the angel seeking stop the divination remove from your assembly all the false spirits repent in Jesus name.

I’m a bit confused, if your god is not sovereign - he is not God. Other religions do better. The Bible says Yahweh is God. The Bible does not say that Yahweh is Homer Simpson, and is incapable without people to do good. ‘Out of these stones God can raise children for Abraham. The obsession is on phenomena , but the obsession diminishes the real and ultimate power that in reality Yahweh, God , Jesus Christ holds.

@simonlindeque7650

3 жыл бұрын

@Dean Agnor What?

"SUBMIT YOUR BIOLOGY TO YOUR THEOLOGY" Hungry Generation quote.

@kevinjohnston6164

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinkent333 Missions. Iris Global. This is above your pay grade though. US Military helps them when ISIS showed up

Sadly once again Bill Johnson isn't answering the specific claims made against him. Obviously by having a video on this topic he's acknowledging that there's been controversy over his teachings on this, yet there's no attempt to engage the arguments made by his critics.

@RealRyanHarper

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously he won't, it's all a scam. bethel should be banned 🚫

How did Jesus “respond” to the Pharisees?? Exactly how people are trying to appeal to you-to come against you so that you truly believe that Jesus is enough -NOT his miracles, not manifestations, not the weird things that happen. The Bible says it is sin to seek signs and wonders. How do you interpret that?

Jesús never called the father Yahweh, not just because of the intimacy of Father, but because only created beings have names, his name as Yah Ho Vah is actually a qualitative sentence, I Am that I Am. Yahweh is not Hebrew text. It's YHVH. No W. Jesus written as YHSVH. Contains all the same letters as the fathers name plus the Shin S in the center. That's why his name is above every other name, because he is both God fully and a created being fully. The correct pronunciation of the Father's tetragramaton is Yah Ho Vah. Never Yahweh.

A lot of what guys are doing is misunderstanding the Bible. Stop leading people astray.

@markzylstra2947

3 жыл бұрын

@Dean AgnorSorry, but Bethel Church is hardly gospel centered. When you include grave soaking and the equivalent of tarot card reading, none of that is Biblical.

1:06 “He [Jesus] is the perfect manifestation of the Father.” If you are using the word “perfect” to mean high quality, then yes. If you are using “perfect” to mean “complete”, then absolutely false. If that were so, then you would be saying that the Father and Son are identical in every respect, which They are not. Each Member of the Trinity possesses both similar and unique qualities.

Who is Jesus Christ? It is normally accepted that God knows the WHOLE future and is here interacting with us. You should distinguish between "possible futures" (that God could maybe modify) and "THE ONE actual future" (including the modifications by God) that will ACTUALLY take place. Thus, God is supposed to perfectly know that One future which will ACTUALLY come true. Once again, that actual future is ALREADY AMENDED in accordance with the God's wishes. But this implies a SEPARATION of God from the world and mankind: God would simply BOREDLY STARE at what happens in the world, doing NOTHING MORE than staring at that well-known film which simply regularly UNFOLDS. God had really NOTHING to do because even the God's voice would be ALREADY RECORDED on that film: his power standing ALONE would do exactly what needed. God would refrain to take his personal actions too, because they MUST EXACTLY be taken as in that film, no deviations are allowed! Since that actual future is "already amended", this implies there MUST have been a "first phase" BEFOREHAND in which God WAS FREE to make all his decisions, where God examined "possible futures", i.e. He did NOT know the WHOLE ACTUAL FUTURE above. Indeed (1) KNOWING the ACTUAL future and (2) being FREE TO DECIDE are things MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE, God can have either one, but not the two of them AT THE SAME TIME for logical reasons: if God "reserved the right" to decide to change the future whenever He likes (see (2)), this would mean He doesn't really know what will happen in the future and this is not serious. But that is not the case: when all his decisions are made - end of the first phase - God knows exactly the whole future, is happy with that and the matter is concluded FOR GOOD. God is almighty, He cannot afford mistakes, second thoughts or uncertainties for the future. Since God is ONLY FREE TO DECIDE WHEN HE IS IN THE FIRST PHASE, this means that we have a relationship with Him when He is in that first phase! But this means we have a relationship with God WHO IS IN THE PAST, in a very distant past, the mankind was not born yet ("the world has not known you"). Thus, "No man has seen God at any time" doesn't happen because God is INVISIBLE, false ! That happens because GOD IS NOT AVAILABLE!! But from that past God is able to REACH OUT TO US here now, only with his words and actions. Since there's NO ONE HERE to speak those words, you can say that the God's presence here corresponds to the presence of a SPIRIT ("God is a spirit"): He is the SPIRIT OF GOD. From what set out above, the conclusion of the God's work in that remote past - i.e. the end of the first phase - would coincide with His SEPARATION from us, because the future known to Him would simply come true - with AUTOMATIC actions taken by his power where necessary - thus UNFOLDING without any further personal God's intervention. Instead of that no real separation occurs because - at the conclusion of his work - God gets rid of his power to become like a normal person, without any power: the Son of God. Thus, "Son" only means that Jesus DERIVES from God, He is no "normal Son" ! Therefore Jesus INHERITS the reign of God, EVERYTHING "The Father loves the Son and has given ALL THINGS into His hand.". Jesus - who is a man now - is DIFFERENT from the Father since He has now no power at all “ I from myself am not able to do a thing”. This is why He sits next to the POWER of God: He hasn't got any! However, He is NOT DISTINCT from the Father either, since He DERIVES from Him "He who has seen me has seen the Father.". Thus, for Father + Son taken together you cannot use the pronoun "He", you cannot use the pronoun "They" either. You can say that God is more than One and less than Two in number.

Jesus never claimed to be the full or complete image of the invisible God.

Again no biblical referencing. The point of all these videos is to make excuses for their false teachings and bills pocket book

Please repent.