Very polite. 👍 She knew all about byways long before you rode along... she was playing dumb. The house at the beginning had made their end of the byway look like a private courtyard and planted that shrub to narrow it.... even a set of five bar gates to make it look private.... attempting to deceive the unknowing and claim it as their own. You did well... very respectful. 👍

@MsVanorak

2 жыл бұрын

if they are maintaining it . . . . . and the council aren't.

@stevesvids

2 жыл бұрын

@@MsVanorak if they have made application to local authority to maintain the byway and have approval then fair enough. They clearly haven't applied and clearly aren't complying with any council policy or specification for maintenance. They are simply wanting to claim it as their own. Its not theirs. It belongs to the public as a right of way and should remain that way...... forever.

@MsVanorak

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevesvids as a rule of thumb the council don't maintain roads with 3 or less properties (in my neck of the woods anyway.) So the council are ignoring the bit in the middle to dodge maintenance costs of it. the property owners are maintaining it however and if they do so for a certain number of years then they can claim it and if you go there annoying them then they will act to get it closed as a right of way for everyone. and it looks like a nice walk so that would be a shame. the public footpath stile is to the left of the yard after the woodland bit. they need to get the right of way status changed which i think the cash strapped local authority will do quite happily.

@stevesvids

2 жыл бұрын

@@MsVanorak you're right in that their actions to claim it as their own eventually, is most likely their exact intention, based on lack of use by the public. So public .... get your bikes down there, get your 4x4s down there, get walking down there, get your horses down there, get your quads down there, get your tractors down there, get it all down there. If there's no planning application for gated access then get them gates gone. If the planted shrubbery is limiting the width of the byway for all users cut them back. Don't use it.... you lose it.

@michaelshore2300

2 жыл бұрын

I know my rights as long asit does not apply to me or mine.

I’d ride that route on a regular basis after that interaction. Asking personal questions that are none of her bloody business. If you dont want people driving by then dont buy a house next to a public right of way..simple.

I really hate those women of a certain age who talk down to everyone and think they are always in the right.

@feolender2938

3 жыл бұрын

they're called "karens"

Post a map of where this is so lots of others can use it.

What's going to do more damage? A 100kg bike or a 600kg horse ? A bikes doesn't have the potential to lash out and kick someone or get spooked and bolt either !

My wife works at a farm that is at the end of a public road, which then continues as one of these rights of way. Once vehicles started using it, it became very muddy in places, so the landowner put down and compacted loads of road stone in those places to make the surface much better for drivers and riders. The same guy has cooperated with the local nature conservancy bods to encourage owls, red kites and other wildlife. Not all landowners are unfriendly.

"Why don't you get on a horse and do it?" I rode horses for about 20 years... these people still complain... In my village we had one safe place to cross a major road to get into the forest, that was by a dirt road with a street name and perfectly legal Only one house on that "street", guy complained about horses passing on Sundays to our gutless mayor... road closed for horseback riders... So the only way to get into the forest from the pastures was to cross a busy road known for speeding at a place where you couldn't see shit before crossing... People that live in these sort of places get too entitled and there is a reason why they chose live there in my opinion... they just don't like people and as a consequence... the feeling is mutual :p

The trouble with these snobby landowners is they fail to realise that before the dwellings they bought came onto the market they were either tied cottages for farm labourers our agricultural buildings on farms, along came a property developer and destroyed the same countryside they "love" so much by rapid expansion, and don't forget its alright to drive their cars up the same byways, and the byways went with the territory some of the ones I have used date back to the Medaevil period and still are as long as they have not been decommisioned rights of way.

Very conservative riding and taking the time to walk the start instead of riding around someone’s property. Well handled and well done for not letting them talk you down. I was disappointed that you didn’t pay compliment to there comfortable shoes or slip the odd Sir into your conversation but well done.

you have the patience of a saint with the second 1 that came out

just let her call the cops and make her a fool out of herself.

Sounds like all boat users should get together over a weekend and do a mass ride and drive.

@trainman665

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that would have the opposite of the desired effect. Think of all the bad publicity the media would churn up. The way to fight for our rights is to stay respectful and challenge illegal obstructions via the councils. You’ll find the councils don’t like people obstructing public access as much as you do! Unfortunately a lot of people take it into their own hands and it never actually gets reported. End result is the council doesn’t know there is an issue so can’t do anything about it.

@MsVanorak

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like we should have another covid lockdown until they get the message.

@hawksquawks

Жыл бұрын

It's never a good idea to do mass ride outs. in this day and age the last thing we would want is bad press.

you handled the situation well.

Well handled, people hate change

You could have presented a chest of gold and she still would have given the rider stick..

Does it matter what you are doing and where you are going? You are legally allowed down there but they don’t want you there. That is the problem. As for her stating it’s a bit pointless, well, so is going for a walk when you are not really going to get anything. They knew people had the right of way and admitted it near then end but they still parked the cars in a way to block access

such a narrow minded view from that woman. how people have patience interacting with people like that is beyond me

Decently, politely, calmly destroyed every aspect of their argument whilst she obstructed your Right of Way. No pre-purchase due diligence 'luv'?

Well done mate, nice and calm

Hey mate, I just wanted to let you know I saw this video from a moto comp video of bikers vs people and just wanted to let you know I will be subbed to you!!

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Cool thanks where'd you see it ?

@tomfrommyspace7390

5 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 I have the video link here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g2Vhw7WdYdHAnsY.html

@tomfrommyspace7390

5 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 it's towards the end

I hate snowdrops so you did me a favour there

I can understand the ladies concern, you were very courteous and considerate, many others wont be.

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

I can understand it aswell but she would of been told its a right of way when she bought the house 2 years ago so should know traffic is allowed to pass through

@BigDuke6ixx

4 жыл бұрын

They just don't want the public there even though the public have a right to be their. All they are is fucking selfish.

I’ve never heard so much crap from one person she knows full well it’s a right of way, remember your never getting those wasted minutes back

@diggerdave.6587

3 жыл бұрын

Its the same old crap, people have a house next to a byway and suddenly find out it doesn't suit them. I am afraid we are destined for a life of hatred from people like these who refuse to recognise its our right to use the byways. Well handled though buddy.

@thomasc6412

3 жыл бұрын

I hear you. I’m sick of being polite and patient with people spending 20mins each time explaining. They are not all bad but it isn’t getting any easier in the uk especially with society full of entitlement.

@diggerdave.6587

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasc6412 I feel that way too, it's hard to stay calm when you are fed up with trying to explain to the red sock brigade why you have the right to be there. I tend not to stop now.

@thomasc6412

3 жыл бұрын

@@diggerdave.6587 Yeah, you can not tell some people, even if you are tooled up with GPS and maps it’s not good enough until the council are trying to close the lanes down.... I am friendly to everyone and like to be a people person. I’ve had people yelling in my face and swearing it’s a joke just who do they think they are? It’s like they are entitled to treat you like this and the majority of riders I know of aren’t aggressive in anyway (riding style as well)

Arms folded. NIMBY. Very few dead end byways. Horses don’t churn up paths at all do they?

Hey mate, is it OK to feature your clip in a moto edit some time soon? It will be credited in the description & comments section with your name watermarked on the clip. Thanks, MM

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Sure

@MotoMadness

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, I will let u know when I use it!

Looks like the path was sabotaged when you entered, with tree trunks and speed bumps .

@nayrh1920

3 жыл бұрын

The house at the top had illegally extended their driveway and garden into the byway. To put it in perspective it's the same as deciding because you live next to the m1 you can plant some flowers in the middle of the tarmac and add steps to it and gates its mental

@trainman665

3 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 Did you report it?

@nayrh1920

3 жыл бұрын

@@trainman665 it had been recently reinstated as a byway and glass is dealing with the obstructions to 4x4s at the moment.

@trainman665

3 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 That’s good to hear. Unusual for them to be reinstated isn’t it?

@nayrh1920

3 жыл бұрын

@@trainman665 yes it is now but all the work to reinstate it was done before the nerc act came into effect so this one along with one other lane got reinstated around the same time

You gave them more time than i would of done.

Hey mate, i don't have a channel but i just wanted to say hey mate.

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

😂

Nice and polite. I'm sure the ladies knew that there was a BOAT next to their house but don't like it much.

well done for handling that so well, you can clearly see they parked their vehicles there on purpose

Is that a green lane open to motor vehicles

Hello nayr, good video, we are wondering if we can include it in our future compilation? Giving all the credits in description/video. Enjoy ur day! peace

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Sure

Don't think the horse would give you the same buz of having the wind blowing in your hair and the adrenaline pumping through your body as it dose when riding a bike for some reason 🤦‍♂️ some people just don't see it from our side of the fence granted they wernt ranting and raving as such 🙄 good on you for staying calm great video 👍

Hats off for staying polite

Well done, very polite & imparting your knowledge that they probably already knew anyway & to say that your activity was pointless was an insult. I would have liked a group of horses to try & get past the cars and shit on them!

Rip it outside her house.

A case of 'not in my back yard'

They should make it a harassment charge for all these pompous individuals who think they have the right to question biker's who use green lanes. Asbo the lot of them. Total hypocrites. They're the ones disturbing the peace

Fishmongers Hey mate

I would wind them up by taking a photograph of there car number plates and how their cars are positioned say I'll be reporting them as there blocking the highway thank you good day even a horse 🏇 would have trouble getting through there

Hey mate, may i use this video in my new Compilation ? it will be credited ofcourse :)

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Sure

@dirtbikelunatic

5 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 Thanks a lot mate :)

I’d love to know where this byway is 👀😆

Its a legal byway you cannot park your cars across the road and claim its yours and try to stop people accessing the route,if she doesn't like you accessing the byway then she shouldn't have bought a house next to a byway I'd have told her where to go!

Hey mate! Can i use this vid in my new edit? You'll get a link back in the description & i'll put your channel name in my vid. Thanks!

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Sure

A it’s a byway would like to drive this in defender route blocked you are allowed to drive around plz tell us where this is

@nayrh1920

2 жыл бұрын

The rocks at ever end have been removed so a 4x4 could fit but the ground is that soft there that it'd most likely get stuck and if you didn't get stuck you'd probably dig a very larger hole. It may be doable in summer though it's at Brockhampton in herefordshire

Should of challenged them both too combat

She is trying to play dumb here, the byway would be clear as day on her title plan to the property. The way she has everything setup, is a clear attempt to disguise the existence of the byway, thankfully she can never truly hide it. I would report her actions to the council as it's an offence to obstruct a byway.

Why are these entitled swine not charged with obstruction of a public highway and thoroughly fined under planning law? Most peculiar argument presented by the silly woman. I live on a public highway as well but would not feel any right to castigate every other road user and perpetrate my idiosyncratic opinions about the 'point' of their journey. I would ask these objectionable, poe faced nags what the 'point' of their existence is. I am a walker so have no axe to grind here. I have recently come across these sort of videos detailing the bigotry and ignorance of a minority of people towards other users of these ancient roads and comment in solidarity with any lawful fellow traveller whether on horse, legs, bicycle or trail bike.

So, the house at the ends of the BOAT stole land from the public then... Naughty.

Hey mate, do you mind if I feature your vid in my new compilation? Credited - watermark and link to your channel. ~MS

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Sure

@moto-stars

5 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 Thanks

You should've left bike tracks up Frick and Frack.

I wonder her 4x4 does the country side

So if I've got this right, those ladies have essentially stolen public land?

@nayrh1920

Жыл бұрын

Basically

@justincarter5167

Жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 You would have thought in that case, people like that should not draw too much attention to themselves. Now it's all over in the public sphere now, lol 😃

Where is the Byway? I feel the need to take the landy out..... Edit, never mind I found it at HR1 4SA Interestingly, it is not shown as a BOAT, or even a footpath on the Herefordshire Public Rights Of Way map......

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Look at the modification orders on the herefordshire government website they havent updated it yet its still down as a modification order and not passed however it was passed abit ago now our council arent the greatest for these kinds of things

@danielwilson5102

5 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 Jesus it says the application was received in 2003, that is absolutely shocking lol. Now that it is a BOAT can you cut down the giant bush and move the stones? or do you have to take them to court and wait another 16 years?

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

@@danielwilson5102 court or get a application from the council to go clear it is the legal way the illegal way that i deffinately wouldnt ever ever suggest to you would be to just go do it quickly and as quietly as you can ;)

Bloody microphone !

Hello man, cool if i feature this?

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

Of course

@MotorbikeCraziness

5 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 Appreciate it as always

Try using a decent microphone!

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

It's audio from a go pro in a waterproof housing I don't normally use the audio in my videos as I like to make my videos with music over them

Don't get it....

@Jonesykins

4 жыл бұрын

So, this guy is riding his bike on what's referred to as a BOAT (Byway Open to All Traffic), basically a road that anyone can use in any vehicle. The owner of the house at 04:37 has had their driveway illegally extended to the point where it overlaps on to the Byway. Think about it as if this person: prntscr.com/rsk6ax extended their driveway in to the middle of the road, same idea. She has then parked their little red Polo in the middle of said Byway, to the point where she is actually obstructing the highway, she then has a little whinge at the biker for driving on roads he is legally allowed to.

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I’m a biker and no way would I drive through that persons house . Just because you can doesn’t mean you should . Grow up and sod off somewhere else

@nayrh1920

3 жыл бұрын

It's a byway open to all traffic they've extended their garden into a roadway illegally. It's like someone living on a road extending their house into the middle of the m5.

@jpesicka999

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't smh

Exact reason these Byways need closing!

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

How so ? I didnt ride it at speed i didnt make uneccasary noise and i was polite to the person who had purposely blocked the lane closing it for a while in the first place ?

@jonathongreen7727

5 жыл бұрын

@@nayrh1920 to be fair mate, I'm not having a go at Bikers but the people in 4x4s. We own the farm below Knapp Green and have people coming through all the time messing up the ancient tracks made for horse riders and foot traffic only. Bikers hardly make any imprint when dry. Fair play to you for shutting all or our gates. We seem to have an Influx of people using these Byways recently and something needs to be done about it. If you want to see the countryside why not just drive the country roads instead of driving through people's estates...

@nayrh1920

5 жыл бұрын

@@jonathongreen7727 these are roads ive spoken to who i assume was your wife from that farm as i ride through there quite abit its our hobby we like riding dirt and seeing the countryside is a bonus we do shut all the gates that are already shut when we come to them (we being the herefordshire trf) ive led a few people thrpugh the local lanes but our guys wont ride fast through and we try not to cause uneccasry hard to the land i get the frustration with 4x4s but in all fairness it is a road... the reason i met your wife is because the route isnt marked up very well and was quite confusing the first time i went through and she had to point me in the direction if you want help marking it up so people dont stray from it asmuch me and the rest of the group woild be happy to help and if it doesnt cost too much woulc contribute to any signage or anything like that EDIT just re read what you said you dont actually live in the house the lane goes around if you own the farm below this shouldnt be a issue to you as there isnt any lanes going through that farm in particular unless you own the fieldfields up past it where the new gates are ?

@mikeos

5 жыл бұрын

She looked a bit like Jeremy Clarkson, and he doesn’t like bikes much either.

@bobcat70r96

4 жыл бұрын

Johnathon Green what reason is there for any closure ? Nayr rode that lane throughout in an exemplary manner! I will agree there are some motorised users nowhere near as considerate (you’ll find the same sort on tarmac too) but a blanket ban for ALL simply enjoying a legal hoody is unjust surely???