"It's almost like its own language" - 100% true. I was trying to explain to my brother how excited I was that I picked up a 5-star blessing for my Godseeker Aniri, allowing her and Walking Tomb Dreng to duo Sand Devil Stage 25 and farm oils and chaos dust so that I can ascend my gear... and then I realized I might as well be speaking German, for all the sense that makes to somebody who doesn't play RAID. But if you know, you know.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

For sure haha it makes no sense unless you know 😂

This was a fun one thanks for coming on for a video Henry!

@henriquejbranco

Ай бұрын

Awesome to be a part of this team! Lets goooo🎉

10:00 Two further ideas 1) Seeing the lifetime stats of a champion shows me part of my relationship to the character over time. Ie: How many enemies killed, how many icegolems killed, how many units revived etc. Sense of pride, sharing with others. I think Dota2 does this really well. 2) Visual effects for stuff we work on. Eg if we are building resistence, to see this visually when something is resisted rather than just the word. Another example would be in warframe how depending on how much critical damage you do, the damage numbers change colour (white -> yellow - > orange -> Red), and "red crits" are really sought after due to dopamine hit.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Sounds very cool, thanks for the suggestions. Drop them on our discord too for more people to see discord.gg/fateless.

I think there should be a group of trolls as an easter egg in the new game. One should definitely be inspired by Chosen. Other 2-3 could be other top content creators involved, maybe HH and ASH? They should talk and have visual references to the creators. HH with a bandana, Chosen with a math graph and a cat, ASH with a tank top and a baseball cap.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Devs actually trolling 😂. Leave the idea on our discord idea threads too if you don't mind discord.gg/fateless

Welcome to the team Henry! Interesting podcast again👍🏻

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thanks Joya, appreciate it 🥰

I've worked with a number of great UXers and it's so interesting that you're having the exact same conversations we have when developing large finance applications. The UX of an app is so important and you know it's great when you don't think about it. Also totally agree that the numbers of heals and damage are super important. It's so satisfying seeing that big crit hit land. Also helps understand where your team might be lacking and how it functions as a whole. Great work as always, appreciate the continued insights into game development.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words Liam, appreciate it 🥰. That is true, often great UX "goes unnoticed" as nobody is pointing out any flaws.

Welcome to the team Henry! Great discussion awesome podcast

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thank you, appreciate it 🥰

Rewatching whole game cinematic like Diablo is so cool

Hope you get Henry back on when y’all can speak more freely, and he can share more of what he’s working on. I think UI/UX is really interesting, considering taking my career that direction. Keep up the good work!

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thanks man, I'm sure we can share at least a bit more on the topic later on :)

The best UI I've seen was on desktop Runescape. Jagex put in an editor which allows all windows to be placed anywhere, where they have tabs to enable/disable tabs & move them to other windows, then save the setup. It's possible to have multiple layouts, say 1 for bossing, 1 for skilling, etc. The result, however, is that most players setup 1 layout and then don't touch it every again. So, it was a lot of work to develop but didn't get used much. The main thing was to move the chat box, by default it was at the top of the screen, where I wanted it at the bottom. In fact the biggest UI optimization is to be able to move/resize chat so it can be on screen but not in the way depending on what you happen to be doing.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Jagex really does a wonderful job with the UI, especially lately.

Portugal caralho!!! Boa sorte neste projeto! Best of luck!

Games like Neverwinter Nights Online allows you to completely customize the interface, adding or subtracting elements and moving things around. Farbstoff seems to be a master of the user interface experience. Hopefully you can add him as well. RSL Helper is sublime. Regarding story, Raid did give us all yearly recaps, which are cool stories. But I always thought it would be cool to create a video of your game experience, lasting an hour or so, pulling in your characters into gameplay and the cinematics. Would be cool for people to download their stories and watch them.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback GrayBones, sounds really cool. Drop the idea on our discord as well for more people to see at discord.gg/fateless.

Tutorials should be ranging between 3-5 mins of core mechanics, but you could also add like raids missions tab to continue the tutorial maybe to help a player get their 1st 6 star, during missions you could show different areas with a mini tutorial as you go, player can do it on their own time if needed but also rewarded at the same time by getting their 1st 6 star and rewards to help on route

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Do you have examples of games that did tutorials really well? Can also leave ideas on our discord idea threads at discord.gg/fateless

great video guys. very important subjects. reroll important lol

One of the things that Raid does right with its tutorial is, when you unlock new features in the game, they give you the OPTION to go check it out now or to skip. To me that is great. If I’m having fun progressing through campaign and you force me to disengage with it to go check out a different game mode, I’m going to be agitated. Also, because you’re forcing me to interact with it now, I’m not likely in the mood to absorb any of the new information you’re bombarding me with. I just want to get through it so I can get back to the thing I was enjoying before you yanked me out of my fun. This was one of my biggest annoyances with Eternal Evolution. I hated how they did it that way. Raid does it right, and you guys should absolutely do it that way too. Give me the tutorial on the new game mode when I decide I’m ready to engage with it, because by then I’ll be ready and willing to learn it and I’ll be much more likely to absorb the information.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Adam! Tutorial/early game/whatever it may be is definitely something we want to get right, it's so important.

Please add numbers into HP bars and some effects stacks. For example, in Raid SL some champs have passives that increase/decrease stats (like Ninja increase own attack, Taras decrease attack of opponent) but UI has no indication how much stack of these effects currently apply( These effects stack also could be visually indication like weapon of the champion start glowing more and more when stack increase

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! You can leave ideas on our discord at discord.gg/fateless. Do you have any examples of games that do this well?

I don’t know how possible this is but if u could add a basic color pallet from which u can customize certain champs or ui ingame and further down the line selling cosmetics as part of the game would help with feeling like it is ur unique character

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

You should post that on our game idea threads on discord at discord.gg/fateless. Customisation is quite popular.

Other way to deal with cinematic is like you unlock the story and after you finish Play there's a place where all the story are and you can give like some crystals if you watched

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Yeah maybe. Would it not feel like a chore tho?

@elmurdoc

Ай бұрын

@@FatelessGames not at all, i think is more a chore to have to be skipping multiple times just to get to the next fight I play a game were they called Memories or something like that, after you play as much as you want, you finish all dailies then you can go to Memories and watch the cinematics or skipped and you have a little reward for doing so I think is a better way because it's not in the moment when i just want to fight is after when you have more time

I used to make a living going to people’s homes and helping them with their computer. Some of this is training. I learned that you can’t teach more than 2 new things at once without giving the student time for practise.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Absolutely, brain needs time to absorb new info.

Mission is often the best tutorial

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Watcher did a very good job with the early missions. Some other games, maybe not so much.

The player retention in the first few days is not much as the tutorial but more about the initial game experience

You mentioned colors for different things and choices and reasons for using or not, there is also a comment from someone about a basic color pallet to allow players to change colors of champs or the ui if I recall correctly. My thought is about color as well as my eyesight is declining I have trouble most often with text, if there isn't enough contrast between the text itself and the background it can be very difficult or nearly impossible to read, I actually quit playing EE for that reason. Maybe a choice of a high contrast color combinations could be possible, if needed. Just a thought. P.S. For me personally a white background is the worst.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

You should post this on our game idea threads on discord too at discord.gg/fateless. Good idea, it's definitely something that's worth talking about.

Raid tutorial was great the first time you do it. It's re doing it that's painful.

I normally stop instantly playing a game when they overwhelm you instantly with 20 different currencies for each part of the game and its just over complicated for no reason - like collect 10 diamonds from boss 1 and 10 scrolls from boss 2 and 10 wood from boss 3 then you can upgrade your gem core , if you upgrade your gem core 10 times times then you can upgrade your boots to level 2 by using your book of speed.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Hey who leaked our boot upgrade system 🤐. Yeah haha I feel ya, that can be very frustrating.

Could you not use the tutorial to further immerse the player into the world and story of the game?

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Possibly yeah. If you have any more ideas on how to do it, post it on our idea threads on discord.gg/fateless.

I like tutorials but hate it when I am locked into it and cannot shortcut especially when creating second accounts

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe something like "skip seen text" option for second accounts? Or reckon that should be an option at the start?

As a colorblind person UI is always hit or miss for me.

@FatelessGames

Ай бұрын

Do you have any examples of what game nailed it or what completely missed it? You can also drop them on our discord idea threads at discord.gg/fateless.

Like I don't know why but WoR UI is really hard for me. The character menu and upgrades and gear... I don't know why but I hated it.

In Raid I'm beyond tired of the popup to click for combat tips that really only tells you to gear your champions. That wasn't even a good combat tip when I started playing and years later even less so. And that stupid pop-up is right over part of the UI I may need to be clicking on. It makes me want to pull my hair out at times. Fateless, please don't make me more bald.

Awful Final fantasy UI, that's such a pain!!