It’s crazy how they can have different opinions and still both be right

@jamesmaguire9518

6 ай бұрын

Yeah that's what I was thinking

@MalosiAudios

6 ай бұрын

It’s always cool seeing the veterans discuss stuff like this

@lowkeylokii4205

6 ай бұрын

Eh. Successful people always say it's because of them, and it's easy to claim to blame yourself when you fail. Even though youre succeeding. It's equally as arrogant while sounding humble. He won a lottery and called it personal success

@oliveslife8032

6 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing.

@kright17

6 ай бұрын

Yeah Their Is A Saying, I Think It Goes Like This. “Just Because You’re Right, Doesn’t Mean I’m Wrong”

Miz said the truth of wrestling, Big E spoke to the reality of being a WWE superstar at the mercy of a McMahon

@JSmellerM

6 ай бұрын

Big E was really close playing the race card. I really was waiting for him to bring that into the discussion.

@user-wt8im2ro1p

6 ай бұрын

@@JSmellerMshut up

@dannyphantasmo7225

6 ай бұрын

@@JSmellerMthat was his underlying point you could tell to claim the miz was handed his opportunities and that kofi had to wait 11 years you can tell that’s where he was goin with it and it’s just not factual love kofi but the guy is not face of the wwe material let alone superstar material let’s just be very honest lmao

@jamesh6516

6 ай бұрын

Always a race thing

@Youngsickbacchus

6 ай бұрын

@@dannyphantasmo7225 you sound like the creative team lmfao. The fact of the matter is you’re wrong because the WWE universe said so, before they even decided to let him win the crowd had decided he was the face of the company at the time and that’s likely the only reason it worked out. Same thing happened with Daniel Bryan and Roman reigns the year before. The real truth here is that the face of the WWE is not who the fans want it to be, its not who earned it or who deserved it its who they think they can market the best. That’s an objective truth, and you can look at every black world champion that lost their belt in a squash match against brock Lesnar for evidence of that 😭 if Kofimania didnt prove it, try the yes movement. Try Matt Cardona/ Zack Ryder, try anyone that got over authentically

That’s crazy labeling Miz as a person that got opportunity after opportunity. Yeah maybe midcard but definitely not no where near his 2011 run. He’s a great heel. His 2011 heel run was one of the best imo. He earned it.

@invinciblemercenary510

5 ай бұрын

Ya Big E sounds clueless about the Miz’s history in WWE lmfao.

@Sadiki22

5 ай бұрын

​@@invinciblemercenary510When you are living your own journey sometimes it's hard to notice someone else's.

@hammersticks7138

5 ай бұрын

Exactly, the locker room Didn’t want miz there. They thought he didn’t belong. They hazed him in the locker room and he was messed with on screen. He had to prove everyone wrong and earn his stripes. You can’t take that away from him.

@shemzlove490

5 ай бұрын

He’s had multiple wwe championships around the time orton cena Batista and tripple h were all at the top

@primelordoftheuniverse7835

5 ай бұрын

@@shemzlove490 if you mean United States and tagteam gold then you’re right, but WWE championships he never had multiple he only had one that was during the time in 2011 when Randy, Oren, John Cena and Triple H were considered still around and full timers as well as the undertaker the only time Miz got his second world championship was during the time John Cena was a part-time Randy was still full-time but getting older Triple H already retiring and undertaker already done with WWE so with WWE world championships you’re wrong but with other gold like tag team intercontinental, and United States you were right

Bro the miz came from the real world and MTV then went to tough enough and lasted in the wwe over 11 years with no injuries. Give him respect.

@Crudes.

5 ай бұрын

Finally someone talking sense

@HITTAGAME

5 ай бұрын

The miz is a goat like it or not he's just so good at making people hate him no wonders his net worth is 16 million now😂

@GaBoy7469

5 ай бұрын

Facts

@doyadirty3804

5 ай бұрын

Yeah like Big E said.. opportunity after opportunity

@SacredTruthing

5 ай бұрын

Has 0 to do with what they're talking about. That doesn't negate the fact he was handed almost every opportunity.

Honestly love how this conversation feels like it goes both ways Theyre both right with two different perspectives, so interesting

@Greenfrom3

6 ай бұрын

Yeah big props to these guys. Got a little heated lol, but that's how men communicate.

@kevinadkins8548

6 ай бұрын

@@Greenfrom3yeah we always get a little fiery whenever we’re passionate about our stance on something. It’s cool to see them recognize it isn’t anything personal against the other. I’ve saw a lot of conversations like this one go way south because people took things personally for no good reason.

@davidwallace8094

5 ай бұрын

The power of good dialog an respect in a debate

@jasonbatchelor4315

5 ай бұрын

Agreed they both were right . If the world was like this it would be a better place.

Miz has maximized every single thing he has got. I could of never believed he would have had the career he has had.

@MossiahAce091

6 ай бұрын

That's the thing that makes The Miz legendary. He transcended beyond everyone's expectations of him when he first came.

@jruck_14

6 ай бұрын

Yall forgot New Day was supposed to fail and Randy did kofi wrong and during that time if Randy said something, John Cena said something or triple H said something your push will be stopped or sabotaged miz was fortunate enough to get a rub from the undertaker. Who arguably, had bigger pull than any of those other guys.

@kylemoore1865

6 ай бұрын

@@jruck_14 rumor and innuendo

@MRuss-uu7rd

6 ай бұрын

It's easy to be hated and disliked.

@kylemoore1865

6 ай бұрын

@MRuss-uu7rd yeah that's why heels like nails had a long career right

miz knows how hard it is to gain respect not only from fans but from the guys in the back as well

Big E saying Miz was handed everything is way more insulting than anything else going on here. Miz is the embodiment of forging your own path, with sheer determination.

@awillaims8653

6 ай бұрын

Especially when kofi was the one handed stuff kofi got handed a friendly gimmick which made him popular and was gifted 4 titles runs in his first 3 years with the company while people like the miz had to work for years before getting 1 chance at the USA title.

@abruhigoham7472

5 ай бұрын

Big E is an affirmative action hire

@godlytyungodly

5 ай бұрын

@@awillaims8653dolph ziggler is more comparable to kofi than the miz tbh

@youtubeenthussiast328

5 ай бұрын

Lmao he was constantly put on TV in spite of everyone loathing him Because he was Vince pet

@hollowfox

5 ай бұрын

facts miz takes alot of crap he kinda deserves more!

LA Knight is the living proof of making that 5 minutes matter.

@BerserkRain

6 ай бұрын

Because he didn't have Vince who had his own narrative of throwing it on Brock just because smackdown premiered on Fox and just disregarded what Kofi did and had the crowd behind him. Just Vince being Vince...

@SalisburyTheWaterFoxxo

6 ай бұрын

Second. Not minutes

@endefisto123

6 ай бұрын

@@BerserkRain Not just LA Knight, Bryan (yes movement), Punk ( pipe bomb) and others also had moments that really made them shine.

@Al4___

6 ай бұрын

​@@endefisto123 none of these shined as fast as LA Knight, it only took LA Knight ONE rivalry to make him shine

@Music-qy7yq

6 ай бұрын

😂 LA Knight has 0 for it. The reality is we don't with him yet

Miz is not wrong. He has created every path he’s taken and maximized every step

@jruck_14

6 ай бұрын

Yall forgot New Day was supposed to fail and Randy did kofi wrong and during that time if Randy said something, John Cena said something or triple H said something your push will be stopped or sabotaged miz was fortunate enough to get a rub from the undertaker. Who arguably, had bigger pull than any of those other guys.

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

He is wrong that’s why he changed the subject

@xpridefcxgomix4525

6 ай бұрын

​@@KashFlow24G How did he change the subject?

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

@@xpridefcxgomix4525 he started talking about regular opportunities which apparently they BOTH have overachieved when given the chance! What was said was WORLD TITLE!?!

@AndyNYouTube

6 ай бұрын

He is really good at pretending to fight.

As a big E fan to say the miz was handed anything is NUTS .. that’s the definition of hardwork pays off literally . They literally didn’t think he would last cause of his experience and background (tv reality show) . Was kofi shifted yeah but doesn’t mean Miz was given anything . That boy took life by the horns 😂

Dude, Kofi deserved so much more when he started, he's so talented and his SOS theme song SLAPPED

And what's sad is that they both are right

@honeyjm8324

6 ай бұрын

I can’t even argue who’s right cause they both are

@ChaseLife45

6 ай бұрын

Ummm MIZ is right E is wrong..that’s the problem with these ppl never blame themselves it’s always the man

@TheUndeniableUndesirable

6 ай бұрын

@@ChaseLife45lol how is E wrong brother?

@DeadEye42069

6 ай бұрын

@@TheUndeniableUndesirableKofi couldn't remember Randy Orton's finisher. Seems like he's the only one at fault in that scenario

@DeadEye42069

6 ай бұрын

@@TheUndeniableUndesirableHow about the three royal rumble botches? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, STUPID. STUPID. STUPID.

Miz is spitting fact i never saw miz being casual or not giving his 100 Percent Miz always shows his intent And he is really underrated

@theblackreaper1179

6 ай бұрын

I don't feel he is underrated, personally. He has achieved a ton for a guy with his inring skill set.

@kingofnewyork8092

6 ай бұрын

To be fair Big E can't say the real reason why Kofi had to wait 11 years.

@bigblue7975

6 ай бұрын

When was kofi not giving 100% many people give 100% and still doesn't get the treatment they desire

@pratipchatterjee3922

6 ай бұрын

@@bigblue7975 kofi is good for independent circuit Just like Matt Cardona Even dolph ziggler Cesaro were great but didn't become what they wanted to become That's what I am saying Kofi lacks that charisma Even miz is great but problem he is terrible in the ring

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

He doesn’t catch his opponents…. Not 100%!

It’s things like this that makes The Miz a legend. Hope he gets another world title run before he retires.

I remember something Shelton Benjamin said in an interview that really resonated, " I was an amazing talent, but I felt at times I could have been a better WWE superstar." You can have all the in ring talent in the world but if you're not moving merch, you're not champion material.

He wasn’t even allowed in the locker room until the undertaker said something about it. I still remember his Mohawk gimmick and thinking this dude is a douche.

@leogarcia7466

6 ай бұрын

That’s what he gets lmao a grown ass being a bitch lmao

@Atalas5

6 ай бұрын

well... he was a douche. Still is, but that's part of his character.

@aquariusambassador883

6 ай бұрын

False information

@cerebralassassin2185

6 ай бұрын

​@@Atalas5miz is actually a really chill guy. The douche part is a character.

@Heavymetallord1

6 ай бұрын

LA Knight called him out on that and it was pretty good and accurate He got kicked out of the locker room because he let himself get kicked out of the locker room

They gave kofi a taste then said "thats all u get" 😂

@dev4425

6 ай бұрын

Classic racism

@Mikeinreallife92

6 ай бұрын

@@dev4425and Roman Reigns and his CONSTANT pushing is cause he’s…white?

@joranmikel7339

6 ай бұрын

​@@dev4425 no Kofi was a clown when they finally let him win it, original Kofi would've worked but Randy stopped his push

@hasvn_5021

6 ай бұрын

@@joranmikel7339kofi with the fake accent?

@joranmikel7339

6 ай бұрын

@@hasvn_5021 after that when he had a chest and was in Programs w/main eventers

What's so crazy about this: Both Big E & the Miz are both right😂😂😂😂😂

Kofi was the shit when I was a kid and still is, he deserves more than he was given fr

@fivefortylee

6 ай бұрын

I do agree tho I hate tf outa miz and still do 😂

@bullock4211

6 ай бұрын

Kofi was the world champion. A lot of great wrestlers walked through the doors of WWE and WCW and never sniffed a world title yet win one.

@WeezyOld

5 ай бұрын

@@bullock4211Thats true but he deserved a proper run. Thats the point. You can argue that he isn’t “face of the company” material but they don’t market every champion as such. Cut out even 20% of a brock or roman ghost reign and give it to these guys and your doing great things for both the creative direction (imo itd give the characters opportunities and keep the championship in circulation more) and give the wrestlers their *proper* moments.

I love how Miz doesn't seem to pull the trigger and go all out like how he did on Enzo or Cena in this one (the guy loves using real world stuff in his promo and he often just hit the gas), I feel like he considers and understands Kofi's situation right here, he shifts the example to himself more than to blame Kofi.

@Sting283

6 ай бұрын

"Real world" 😂

@brziperiod

6 ай бұрын

​@@Sting283right lmao like kids now don't know that that was the show miz got famous on lmao

@kingofnewyork8092

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too. I think it's because this is more in character than something he actually believes.

@WGPhil-uw5cs

6 ай бұрын

Hed be called a wacist if he did.

@kingofnewyork8092

6 ай бұрын

@@WGPhil-uw5cs Sounds About White...

Both are right. And both deserve more

I love Kofi and Big E (recover well king!), but Miz is totally in the right here. He got where he is by making others pay attention

I get both sides b/c Miz genuinely did go through UTTER shit in order to gain a match, and I get Big E b/c Kofi has always been consistent, dedicated to his craft and was under appreciated at the time so, I see where he’s coming from, as far as Big E saying Kofi didn’t get opportunities that was valid as well. They both have valid points.

Miz is 100% right. You have to bite at every opportunity you get. Miz was literally kicked out of the locker room and forced to change in the janitors room until he had a match with The Undertaker and got let back in.

@jruck_14

6 ай бұрын

This is a yes and no thing

@awesomecool3280

6 ай бұрын

Actually cm punk was a Bigger heel that year

@jruck_14

6 ай бұрын

Yall forgot New Day was supposed to fail and Randy did kofi wrong and during that time if Randy said something, John Cena said something or triple H said something your push will be stopped or sabotaged miz was fortunate enough to get a rub from the undertaker. Who arguably, had bigger pull than any of those other guys.

@nomad155

6 ай бұрын

You're gonna pretend that wrestler like Kofi and others haven't been put under by Brock? Miz makes sense in his case but we have the matches, and there's an obvious pattern

@jruck_14

6 ай бұрын

@@nomad155 that’s what I’m saying

"I blame myself for all my failures" respect

Big e will be dead serious in a real life conversation and sit in a chair with his legs on the table 😂😂

@micah.1009

5 ай бұрын

Because he's black he has to remain chill as possible or beta males will be scared

@RZO-MAX

5 ай бұрын

@@micah.1009clown

Kofi is one of the best in ring performers ever.

@slumsstreet1

5 ай бұрын

Kofi should have a lot more out of his career then he does but we all know why he doesn't

“Did you wait 11 years?” Bro waited through 7 years of DOCUMENTED hell to get to the top then waited a whole decade to get back. Miz has been seemingly been scratching and clawing for his flowers his whole career.

@kmathews22

6 ай бұрын

And still got an opportunity before Kofi, what does that tell you

@jasonwilliams5117

6 ай бұрын

@@kmathews22 Kofimani happened before Miz’s second WWE Title run, that run being nothing more than a plot device to keep Drew McIntyre protected from Bobby Lashley. Both Kofi and Miz were criminally underutilized at the top of the card but made a fantastic career out of the mid card.

@staticJ7

6 ай бұрын

Wasn't 7 years. Miz just talk about it so much that he makes it seem much longer. Think about it. Miz joined the main roster in 2006 and he talk about how guys like JBL and Benoit bullied him. Benoit died in 2007. JBL retired in 2009. Not discrediting Miz. He definitely had to earn his opportunity, but he was given his mega push 3 years after his debut.

@jasonwilliams5117

6 ай бұрын

@@staticJ7 I’m just not sure why people are coming at The Miz for Kofi being a victim of Randy Orton’s politicking. Yeah, he was a victim of CLEAR prejudice against him as a black professional wrestler but that’s not on The Miz. He’s catching strays for being white lmao

@blackout8777

6 ай бұрын

@@staticJ7you idiot’s forget he was never taken serious bcuz he came from reality tv my gawd i hate wrestling fans

Kofi was WWE champion only once, but he is a multiple time Intercontinental and United States champion as well as multiple time Tag Team champion. Seems he's had a great career for someone who hasn't been given many opportunities.

@MrZane163

6 ай бұрын

FACTS

@joerogers9413

6 ай бұрын

@@MrZane163 👍

@reginaldremble2655

6 ай бұрын

Wasn't the main title bro. Let's not purposefully excuse the cap that Vince put on him

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

HE SAID WORLD TITLE!!!! Why are yall so but hurt

@joerogers9413

6 ай бұрын

@@reginaldremble2655 One title is as good as another nowadays.

Kofi definitely should’ve had his chance especially his 2011-2013 dude was nice asl we talkin royal rumble him jumping from barricade back into the ring him almost getting eliminated in royal rumble but he hopped back in the ring using a chair Shii was legendary💯

Theyre bothe right. God bless Kofi.

Miz is def the wrong person to play victim with 😂😂😂 Dude wasnt given Jack. Probably one of the hardest worker in the bizz.

@blancobenny8242

6 ай бұрын

What are you talking about, everything these wrestlers do is what’s written for them. The Miz was setup with a Great gimmick tv celebrity wannabe and what was Kofi given bland Jamaican guy which tbf kofi made work I was a fan atleast. It wasn’t until the new day that bro actually got a great gimmick that could push him further up the card. Cause that’s wwe you just have to play your role and you don’t get a choice in what role that is, it’s why so many ex wwe wrestlers are more popular over at aew cause they don’t have to be confined to bland gimmicks.

@JC_COMICSANDCOLLECTIBLES

6 ай бұрын

@@blancobenny8242 bro nothing you typed was even accurate. No, not everything is just "what's written for them". Some wrestlers are better actors, have better deliveries, can make a gimmick work better, etc. Miz lost everything and worked his way from literally being kicked out the locker room and ppl refusing to work with him. He made the IC title more relevant than ever. Gimmicks aren't what sells the wrestlers, its their story and progress that you follow from the beginning. AEWs roster is trash and the ex WWE superstars are NOT more popular in AEW... Danielson, Punk, Christian, Edge, Hardy Bros, Big Show... the only ppl bigger id say is Moxley and Samoa Joe.

@JC_COMICSANDCOLLECTIBLES

6 ай бұрын

@@eldenbotting5054 couldn't have said it better

@bensmith5231

6 ай бұрын

What You Chatting.... He Won't Even Take a Frikin Bump Cuz He's Scared To Break A Nail ! 😂😂

@bensmith5231

6 ай бұрын

​@@JC_COMICSANDCOLLECTIBLESYou think AEW,s roster is trash?? Your flucking Deluded pal... 😂 ..... 🤡

Miz deserves everything he's earned

@spiralentree737

6 ай бұрын

Lol imagine miz was black, how things would have changed they’d probably make him come out with an accent from a country in Africa or Jamaica or him having a hip hop gimmick

@thekrazyhatter5063

6 ай бұрын

Miz as black With maryse as his wife I love it

@user-bz7qg5xw6h

6 ай бұрын

​@@spiralentree737I mean. You're doing it right now. Why blame WWE.

@spiralentree737

6 ай бұрын

@@user-bz7qg5xw6h because wwe gave black stars gimmicks based on race. Kofi was Jamaican even tho he wasn’t even from south America, r-truth was given a hip hop gimmick now he’s obliviously dumb black guy. Booker t straight up got told people like him dont belong at the top of wwe and was made to lose against HHH every time. If wwe isn’t to blame who is???

The Miz spitting facts there! Handed!? The man grabbed his changes every time he got one, he made things work, he was able to stand out all the time. Yes he got chances, and props to Kofi, but the Miz deserves all he worked for too.

Sorry Big E, but, and I say this as a fan who doesn't like Miz, Miz wasn't handed anything fam. He has earned his cheers and jeers. Dude worked his tail off. I may not like him, but he's a grinder, a worker, he's earned respect

@McBigP13

6 ай бұрын

I agree with this and miz himself. Each individual pro wrestlers gotta do what they gotta do to take each and every opportunity that's given to them

@mfwicbasterd477

6 ай бұрын

@@McBigP13 Facts broski 🍻 case in point, Cena. Pushed to the moon, failed, was about to be shipped out, rap battled on a plane, booom

@473sm

6 ай бұрын

I believe he was also from the tough enough days

@CMAdoubleT83

6 ай бұрын

I also think when he broke kfab and forgot his accent it made vince think twice about him.

@mfwicbasterd477

6 ай бұрын

@@Donny_1611 he earned it fam. A reality TV cast off turned professional wrestler. Don't minimize his achievements.

Man, Brock could've had a simple 7-minute match. That's Vince shitting on the fans for shits and goggles. It's not Brocks' fault that Vince booked that match like that. That's who Vince McMahon is.

@loganwestfall8206

6 ай бұрын

You might be one of the only replies that I have seen who understands the situation🤦🏼‍♂️feel like these others people didn’t see the Raw that Kofi got SQUASHED for a WORLD TITLE. In literally 6 seconds

@joshuabailey6246

6 ай бұрын

Vince only booked it cause fox wanted lesnar as champ

@GreyLeo

6 ай бұрын

​@@joshuabailey6246that's true but the match could have been some what competitive.

@syedmasroorhussain

6 ай бұрын

​@@GreyLeothat'd be insulting Lesnar's athleticism. I like Kofi, but he's upper midcarder at best

@loveNsuccessfollowsme

6 ай бұрын

Well, Vince does like shitting on people allegedly 😂

Both had good points ngl

They both have serious valid points .. I gotta watch this and see how it played out

Miz gets my max respect. He didn't have anything handed to him. His ring and mic work are amazing.

@DerwinDaDestroyer

6 ай бұрын

His ring work and outfits suck

@SYO100

6 ай бұрын

And Kofi was handed things? Miz was practically given a WWE title shot when he wasn’t even ready for the main event scene. He was given title opportunities over guys like Kofi and Mark Henry who waited for a full decade to get a title shot despite being a very talented and powerful big man. R- Truth cu his teeth in the independent circuit and the NWA becoming a major champion there and the came to WWE with a larger than life personality, a great look, and a very exciting/unique/innovative move set and he had way more range than the Miz in how he can be an entertaining face and a heel. And yet R truth was in only two main events for the WWE championship and lost both of them and never even sniffed the main event again. And he only has one mid card singles title and one tag team reign on his belt, and conveniently his tag partner was Kofi Kingston, another talented singles star that was overlooked and moved over to the tag division. There seems to be a pattern here, can only wonder what that is.

@DerwinDaDestroyer

6 ай бұрын

@@SYO100 anddddd he wasn't better than John Morrison

@SYO100

6 ай бұрын

@@DerwinDaDestroyer Facts.

@emypetcu

6 ай бұрын

@@DerwinDaDestroyer you don't like the flying nun? ;)

i absolutely love the miz he is one of the most underrated wrestlers in WWE history, but Big E has a point

I’m sorry but miz is 100% right. He was a “reality star” and went literally from the ground to the top. He was on tough enough didn’t win but never gave up. Miz wasn’t handed anything . He was hated and bullied by wrestlers back stage (big show, Benoit, JBL) for example but never gave up and became the most hated heel in the business. Then made the IC title relevant and prestigious again and is probably still the best IC champion of all time… big E Is trying to play the race card but Kofi was never over enough to be a World champion. Kofi was actually handed more opportunities early in his career than the miz… Kofi won the US title early but never did enough to cross over to become a main event superstar. People bring up Randy burying him but miz was buried multiple times but always came back better and stronger. I don’t mean to minimize Kofi or Big E. They’re great superstars and Kofi did become a world class superstar during Kofi mania . He finally made himself over with the people/wwe universe . but the readon it took 11 years is all on kofi not backstsge politics or race. respectfully

Wait the miz isn’t doing a character.. he’s being for real and just arguing in the cadence of a character, this makes every one of his interviews so much more different 😱 That Bryan Danielson talking smack episode means so much more now.

I remember Big Show banning The Miz from the locker rooms because he was a ," reality star." Miz somehow made it happen.

@HepCatJack

6 ай бұрын

It was Chris Benoit that banned him because he ate fried chicken over a referee's bag. When Chris Benoit died it was several months before the Undertaker lifter the locker room ban on the Miz.

@dankdandy

6 ай бұрын

Bigger star than the punching bag Bigshow

@user-hy5ee8kj3h

6 ай бұрын

It wasn’t the Big Show it was Chris Benoit who banned The Miz from locker rooms it because he was eating chicken and getting crumbs all over their bags

@Eman-wj8gq

6 ай бұрын

The Miz worked hard

@vj3373

6 ай бұрын

@@HepCatJackit was messed up because the rule is that whoever banned you is the only one that can forgive you, but benoit died, so taker had to step in

the Kofi run as wwe champ and the Big E run as wwe champ were fire

@breewoo145

6 ай бұрын

It was alright. It could o been better but the power at be at that time thought otherwise. Name me a memorable moment during Big E and Kofis reign.

@zxzxzxzx5033

6 ай бұрын

Let say the truth Big E didn’t do shit in his run and kofi become boring quickly after he won it

@juakeenbproducer

6 ай бұрын

… until pee pee man showed up and Fucked it up for both of em 👀

@Armsby5134

6 ай бұрын

Their reigns weren’t too bad but how they ended was

@FlypSyde1111

6 ай бұрын

Big E vs Reigns was great and during Kofi’s run he came out as wwe champ with E and Woods as tag champs were good times. Kofi v Ziggler v Samoa Joe was great. This is also coming from a fan who always loved Roman Reugns and liked the Jinder Mahal reign too lol

I'm with the Miz more here. He was the most hated superstar back in the day; no one wanted him as champion. That's why he was perfect at that time! He made it over by being hated, wrestling 101. The Miz deserves more respect for his multiple title runs. He always made his way into conversations and no one can take that away from him. You can tell if he has a problem, he'll say it. Sometimes that is all you need to get what you want/deserve.

Dude this level of story telling is so cool. Like of course this is a work but it’s also coming from a genuine place from both guys. It’s literally like internet comments. Modern wrestling may have its flaws but it also has so many perks

I do believe that kofi deserves more. I remember when him and Evan Bourne were a tag when he was still rocking the Jamaican accent. Dudes always been insanely creative a talented.

@BestInTheWorld13x

6 ай бұрын

he already stopped the Jamaican gimmick b4 him amd Bourne were a tag team

@Allexstrasza

5 ай бұрын

No one "deserves" anything in life, you earn it. Unfortunately, companies are greedy, and WWE is no exception. Brock Lesnar is a thousand times bigger star than Kofi ever was and ever will be.

@tylerpurvis5658

5 ай бұрын

@@Allexstrasza brock Lesnars 2 moves in the ring are literally a duplex and f5. Also yes you can deserve more than you were given. It’s just that simple. Not gonna sit here and argue.

@tylerpurvis5658

5 ай бұрын

@@BestInTheWorld13x he definitely came out with borne in one of the night of champions ppv matches wearing his usual Jamaican garb. I do remember him dropping it around that time tho. Also my statement probably should’ve had a comma in it.

@tylerpurvis5658

5 ай бұрын

@@BestInTheWorld13x it was more meant as two statements. I remember his tag team with Bourne, I also remember him with the Jamaican accent.

The miz been in the wwe since 2003 he knows, the sacrifices he'd made

Miz has never been handed anythung and has completely been under utilized his entire career

Miz is Right , this guy only speaks facts

I still remember when The Miz got introduced as Mike "The Miz" Mizanin in a 200something Raw. Being part of a partner of John Morrison and being kicked off the dressing room and not giving up was tough.

@thekrazyhatter5063

6 ай бұрын

What's wrong with being a partner of The Shaman of Sexy

The miz is the definition of seizing opportunities

Miz was one of the single most despised heels in wrestling. He earned it. The crap he dealt with and put up with and pushed through is insane. Yes, Kofi was hugely over most of his career, but there were other babyfaces who were more over than him.

Big E: Equity! Miz: Equality!

Miz 2010-2011 is peak heel man.

@Goatface_P

6 ай бұрын

Really??

@terencecaronan1458

6 ай бұрын

@@Goatface_P really 😆

@flashyizlive

6 ай бұрын

Not over Orton or Triple H

@Goatface_P

6 ай бұрын

@@terencecaronan1458 yea, lol Miz gave some great performances with some not so great storylines

If Kofi tried to fight that he woulda been fired. We know why certain ppl get certain opportunities. I completely agree with E.

@TECHWON

6 ай бұрын

i agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

@gregm1855

6 ай бұрын

There are different ways to fight.

@nightvisiontv1847

6 ай бұрын

Imagine telling the golden boy Brock no to taking the Belt. Kofi would have gotten sent to the indies in a heartbeat

@duarteduarte3649

6 ай бұрын

Who cares about Kofi he sucks and we know he wasn't good enough

@exhoduz7746

6 ай бұрын

certain people get certain opportunities because those people are the ones who draw in money.. Kofi does not do any of that

Miz has a point. Not even could’ve stand him

Nah man Miz was someone who you could honestly hate and is a great wrestler from head to toe.

Agree with miz. He came in at a disadvantage. And made the most of it

@TheUndeniableUndesirable

6 ай бұрын

You agree with everything he said? Or just that part?

I’m with the Miz on this

Big E spitting facts!!!✊🏾

The Miz made his own name.....Big E, Kofi & Xavier made their names together. Yes Kofi was and is a fan favorite but the difference of talent to be a full rounded wrestler is clear to see The Miz is light-years away.

@autistic8bit203

6 ай бұрын

False kofi was up touching the top and then the botch and randy Orton happened. That haunted him for years. Among other things. The new day was very good for him. It kept him active relevant and the moment that opportunity came up he took it.

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

@@autistic8bit203 right everyone is discrediting kofi like miz is Jesus 😂 their careers were similar for the majority of their years in Wwe

@breakouttimeburst777

6 ай бұрын

​@@KashFlow24Gbro you couldn't come up with argument in this comment section and yet you piggybacking the Miz hate

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

@@breakouttimeburst777 my argument is that he’s wrong because Kofi obviously never got a rematch or opportunity…. That’s literally what the video is about…. Not what anyone else is saying

Hearing that Miz has been handled opportunities os absolutely nuts! 😂 And we know why Kofi wasn't pushed 😂

@anthonyzarfati3579

6 ай бұрын

I actually really like Kofi, but he is too small to be a believable world champion.

Mix earned a lot of respect from me right now.

Nah I’m with MIZ on this one‼️… I MYSELF couldn’t STAND him… LOVE TF outta the guy today‼️💪🏾😂

Miz wasnt handed anything mans a legend

@thenationofdefecation7969

6 ай бұрын

That's crazy considering he doesn't know how to wrestle

@daleclark4726

6 ай бұрын

Miz was handed a lot TF

@paullucas6275

6 ай бұрын

Dude was handed alot of championship matches by the writers 😂

@kmcd449

6 ай бұрын

I mean he got where he is with little help and worked hard to succeed unlike a lot of people there today getting in through family and hand outs

@Pirustae

6 ай бұрын

Thing with Miz is that he made the most out of every chance he's had. Mediocre, same with the other guy and boring but I respect what he achieved.

Miz is right he was the most polorizing figure for like 3 years

Miz is absolutely right

They both making valid points….. it’s sticky situation

Miz is always speaking facts

People really need to give Miz his flowers. The guy is always willing to put others over at his expense

Both men bring some excellent points to the table

Miz damn near another cut legendary promo in this segment.

Miz truly made himself great. Never replicated always duplicated

@jraida172

6 ай бұрын

THE Miz replicated THE Rock and Chris Jericho with the suits.

@EraDaGod

6 ай бұрын

Lol if u know the history of wrestling you would know basically everyone has duplicated themselves from another wrestler.

@treybooher9608

6 ай бұрын

@@jraida172cause he wears suits?? Jeez lol

@jraida172

6 ай бұрын

@@treybooher9608 Gimmick infringement is gimmick infringement buddy. Jericho said he felt Miz had infringed on his 2008 style and I agree.

Let's all remember the time Kofi Kicked Miz for real. I still go back and watch that. It was beautiful.

@ATS21198421

6 ай бұрын

When did this happen I need to see it?

If the stories were true, Miz was the most hated guy. They said Benoit kicked him out of the locker room and was changing in the employees restroom. Until Undertaker made him comeback.

You know, now's the perfect opportunity to get Kofi his win back...

Love him or hate him but Miz is right. If you know the true story of times Miz talked about being kicked out of locker rooms and watching him from the beginning, you’d know that nothing was ever handed to him. He worked his ass off (still does) to get what he’s earned during his entire tenure in WWE. That’s not to say Kofi hasn’t put in work; however, Big E simply can’t discredit Miz as if everything came easy when that’s far from the truth

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

Miz is wrong that’s why he tried to convince himself and changed the subject

@Aaroncarter95

6 ай бұрын

Corbin spoke up and lost his briefcase. Look at all the people who spoke up and got punished for it.

@JMEAUS22

6 ай бұрын

​@keithkashflow24G You think Miz was handed opportunities? He was hosting the Diva Search at the start of his career and ended up heading Mania as world champ. No one starts that low and gets that high without working for it. It's way to big of a gap in between them.

Miz was literally kids out of the locker room da fuck you mean handed he’s only had 2 WWE title reigns sure he’s been IC champ 8 times but he made that title mean something with rivals like Daniel Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, Kofi himself. It was The Miz fighting for those opportunities and those matches

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

Why are yall coping so hard, he never TOOK any credit away from Miz

The Miz has definitely not been handed anything

Being Black in the McMahon Era was wild unless your name was Dwayne "that's the Rock if no one watches bad Christmas movies."

I agree with them both for the most part. Everything Miz said was spot on besides the Kofi could have fought it part. Don’t think Kofi was gonna be able to pull rank on Brock

@KAMENRAIDAWINK

6 ай бұрын

Kofi couldn’t cut a decent promo even in new day the mic is almost always in xaviar woods

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

@@KAMENRAIDAWINKBROCK LESNAR😂

@stephenenlow6221

6 ай бұрын

It's not a rank thing. Brock lost a 10 second match for his title too. But brocks name is tied with the top of the card. Kofi is just remembered for his crazy royal rumble elimination saves.

@taneshadavis2432

6 ай бұрын

They should have booked Kofi to actually Fight with Brock he got squashed which was sad.

@austin31697

6 ай бұрын

Right! He said that like Brock didn't have Paul as a manager to speak for him for years ​@@KashFlow24G

Miz is right. There are wrestlers who never got the chance that even Kofi got. You got to make the best of what you can.

@TheNyion912

6 ай бұрын

Black wrestlers

@ComplexGentleman

6 ай бұрын

@@TheNyion912 Chad Gables been there a while and can't even sniff a singles title let alone a world title and he's more talented than Kofi.

@atlien1988

6 ай бұрын

​@@ComplexGentleman that's your opinion, but one thing that's undeniable is that Kofi helped make the company FAR MORE money than Chad Gable ever has & likely ever will.

@ComplexGentleman

6 ай бұрын

@@atlien1988 I can say the same thing about Brock Lesnar and Kofi. 🤷🏿

@Butiguessilovememore

6 ай бұрын

​@TheNyion912 what a shocker. Pulling the victim gor the brotha...

Yo. The Miz in 2011 isn’t spoken about enough!!!

I think it is high time we the wrestling fans and the wrestlers come to understand that it is literally impossible for everybody to be a world champion. Wrestlers should change their target from "wanting to be champion" to "creating an entertaining and exciting larger than life character". You should change your perspective from holding gold multiple times, to having an audience of people scream your name or shout your catchphrases.

@RockApe_

6 ай бұрын

Plenty of wrestlers have said it before. If your goal ain’t to become world champion then you shouldn’t even be on the roster.

@Rengokuo4o6

6 ай бұрын

@@RockApe_ yeah but when they don't become world champion they start crying and making a fuss. Wrestlers should concentrate on being the best entertainers they can be and not how to be world champion.

@dowhatiwantc7637

6 ай бұрын

Facts Al snow barely ever got a belt but his promos and ringtone was hilarious

@dowhatiwantc7637

6 ай бұрын

@@Rengokuo4o6but fans push this too they be like he never won considering it’s scripted and who kisses ass a lot of times is asinine. Some of the best wrestlers even if they won the title a few times the run was so small.

@dowhatiwantc7637

6 ай бұрын

@@RockApe_you know Vince decided… and now it’s triple H and the company that bought UFC and WWE.

Imagine Kofi working in another company without ever establishing himself on wwe TV. He'd still be waiting to get a title shot

@fupalover

6 ай бұрын

Nah he would've been a world champion. Bobby carried TNA for 3yrs

@davidclark6694

6 ай бұрын

@@fupalover you didn't listen. Bobby never would have been champion without first being noticed on wwe TV

@goreyboyz8564

6 ай бұрын

With that being said. There’s guys that flat out deserved way more than they got. Zach ryder,kofi,Shelton Benjamin, Mark Henry before hall of pain.

@davidclark6694

6 ай бұрын

@goreyboyz8564 no one deserves anything. The company chose to hire them. They were not obligated to hire or promote anyone. Nothing is "deserved". The difference in thinking between generations is obviously apparent. These younger generations are filled with narcissism and egotism.

@SYO100

6 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@davidclark6694 That isn’t true. Bobby became a champion in WWE because he chose to try out for WWE first. WWE was the and still is the biggest wrestling company, and practically every wrestler that you know of attempted both successfully and unsuccessfully to go to the WWE. I have no doubt in my mind if Bobby chose to wrestle for a different wrestling company before going to WWE, Bobby would most definitely be successful there and probably would have gotten a major title push there than in the WWE. Ron Simmons became world champion in WCW while not getting shit in WWE, R Truth was NWA world champion in NWA and has never been given a world title in WWE, Bad News Brown held multiple world titles in major wrestling companies in Canada, and yet didn’t get any title opportunities in WWE, Junk Yard Dog was one of the most popular wrestlers in the entire US wrestling territories, winning multiple world championships, and was one of the most over wrestlers in the WWE when he was signed and was getting reactions equal to Hogan, but he wasn’t given any title opportunities in the main event scene or anywhere else on the card. So this notion that Bobby needed WWE to win a title in a different company is cap. And there seems to be a pattern here, I wonder what that is?

The Miz its 999% right! Failure or Success is up to you! Nobody else!

The man said it right. Make no excuses."i blame. Myself"

Kofi is still owed a rematch

@jb4626

6 ай бұрын

Not “owed” anything

@MegaZAVEON

6 ай бұрын

@@jb4626 rematch contract every Champion get a rematch

@MegaZAVEON

6 ай бұрын

Every champion get a rematch

@Funkhey

4 ай бұрын

@@MegaZAVEONInterest dropped when he was champ. He’s boring. Even in a title picture. Logan Paul is more intriguing. Reigns vs Paul was far better than Kofi’s entire reign as champ.

Never thought I’d say this but mix makes a point

Tbf, after the morrison split miz got really over. he knew how to control the crowd, had catch phrases and has always been an all around entertaining guy. He is the embodiment of what a wwe superstar is. Maybe not the physique, but that tells you enough. He was and still is dedicated. The miz is the ultimate wwe fan turned pro and he did a heck of a job. Edit: not to forget, Kofi fucked his push back in 2009 with orton and legacy. Literally one year after his debut.

Miz is right. They stood up and made the audience believe. And look.

Big E is just defending his guy, but he’s dead wrong 💯 Miz EARNED his respect both in the locker room and to the fans

@kaliikev

6 ай бұрын

Dead wrong about what exactly … listen to the conversation

@VazmanianDeviI

6 ай бұрын

@@kaliikevhe’s definitely wrong. Miz was a massive heel. even tho I disagree with him being the champion. he worked hard on his character. you can’t say he was given anything. Big E and Kofi got the world championship, becuz the fans wanted it to happen. both of them should’ve never won the belt. they’re midcarders. especially having the same gimmick for over 10 years. they might’ve been beloved guys for the fans, but their characters and gimmicks were the same. Big E is just defending his guy, but realistically Kofi should’ve never won the world title. Brock squashing Kofi made sense.

@KashFlow24G

6 ай бұрын

@@VazmanianDeviIno miz sucks and is wrong that’s why he changed the subject

@VazmanianDeviI

6 ай бұрын

@@KashFlow24G The Miz isn’t bad. he’s better than Kofi in a character aspect. I would say what makes the Miz bad is that he hasn’t evolved his character or be different. he’s been the same for a long time. that’s it really tho. I would say Miz is more world champion material than Kofi.

@Rowan_0161

6 ай бұрын

​@@VazmanianDeviI What I would argue is move away from just kofi, Zack Rider for example, gets himself over through KZread and yet they did everything they could to hold him back, The mizz is right you have to look at yourself and take every opertunity to rise to the top but sometimes it just isn't enough, roman got hated for years no one wanted him did he ever get this treatment no, hell even CM punk who was by far the best in his prime years in wwe couldn't even get a main even though he deserved it, they both are right but I side with Big E that alot of the time even when you earn it wwe can and will screw you for someone bigger

I love how both are right

for big e to say that the miz got his opportunities handed to him is insane like actually

Miz is right though he wasn’t handed I watched miz when I was kid till now He’s def right, he earned it, bro had everyone hating him and Vince loved it

Miz ngl top wrestlers rn

Big E waiting to drop that race card but Miz aint giving him an opportunity lol

@skinnymaine76sdm

6 ай бұрын

What is THE RACE CARD?

@southtexasdeathride7667

6 ай бұрын

the Ace of Spades@@skinnymaine76sdm

@jaywilliams4750

6 ай бұрын

@@randyp8849Roman isn’t black

@bestfriendrobert

6 ай бұрын

​@randyp8849 Roman's not Black he's Mixed Samoan in the most prestigious family ever in Wrestling. That doesn't apply lol

@ChanBoogie310

6 ай бұрын

@@randyp8849wow two examples out of how many lol.

Everyone hated Miz he definitely earned every title opportunity and he deserved every chance he got 💯 😊