Big Law & Pro Bono Work: 'It's Shameful'

"The nation with the highest concentration of lawyers does such a poor job of making them available to those who need them most," said Deborah Rhode, the author of “The Trouble with Lawyers.” In the third and final part of our video interview series with Rhode, the Stanford Law School professor calls out the largest U.S. law firms for not doing enough pro bono work.
Video by Josh Block
@JoshBlockNYC

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  • @rafif549
    @rafif5499 ай бұрын

    I am saddened to find out after a quick google search that Professor Rhode passed away in 2021. Though I wasn’t planning on attending Stanford Law, the prospect of having such a seemingly great professor was tempting. May she rest in peace, she seems like such a caring and thoughtful individual

  • @khadijahamirahhardyel764
    @khadijahamirahhardyel7648 жыл бұрын

    I want to say, that I agree 100%. I lost my sister to a demised death two years ago. Deep in my heart I feel that her own daughter has something to do with it, and the hospital as well. I have tried to obtain an attorney to seriously look into this matter, however, as you stated the larger law firms are not going to assist you, unless it a case that will make national media. I would appreciate if you , or you can refer me to someone who can help me. I am located in Washington, DC.

  • @kassandrad6540

    @kassandrad6540

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you gotten any help yet? Praying for you 🙏🏼

  • @jeffcarr3077
    @jeffcarr30775 жыл бұрын

    My kids was wrongfully taken away from me I reached out for help because of where I was staying. I try to go to the homeless shelter because I was running out of funds to pay for my room. So I reached out to a number of people but they call Social Service on me Social Service came to me with a vigorous attitude. They wouldn't listen to anything I had to say even claim that I needed to find somewhere else to go cuz I can't stay in the hotel with my kids. Now it goes much deeper than that long story short they try to get us to take a drug test and which I did and their father did as well. But she claimed that we tampered with the urine because it couldn't read my urine and my urine was warm, I was on my cycle at the time as well, I never mess with the test at all but they claim that they couldn't read it. Now when I got upset because it was like she was singling me out I literally yelled at her why are you treating me this way I asked her? The next thing I know she got on the phone with her attorney that works for social service and they took my kids away. The next day we went to court they give me my youngest to back didn't see no neglect but they kept my oldest daughter, they said that it was a dependency case because I wasn't taking her to see her psychiatrist like I supposed to basically saying I wasn't taking her to the doctor. I've seen several white people who walked out of the courtroom still on drugs, prostituting even when their kids are around and they give them all kind of resources to help them get their child back. When it came to me and my husband we have to find your own information the social worker lied on us it is even stated in the transcript so I'm going to go and get the new station because this is really wrong of what they're doing to my family

  • @idkwhy77

    @idkwhy77

    Жыл бұрын

    I know this is an old comment but I Will one day become a lawyer and work in the rural areas. I will always do my best to give my services to the needy. I'm not the most religious person but I can do it. You're an amazing person and it's sad what you have gone through.

  • @CMMNGRNDREVIEWS
    @CMMNGRNDREVIEWS4 жыл бұрын

    She should win a Nobel Peace prize.

  • @jimbloom3853
    @jimbloom38532 ай бұрын

    I have spent over a year trying to contact a lawyer to defend schizophrenics online being told by groups to think of their voices as mind control. Days before the Maine shooting I begged for a lawyer to stop these groups from luring schizophrenics into them. Have you tried the Pennsylvania bar? Most schizophrenics are indigent right?

  • @michaelprovost6066
    @michaelprovost60664 жыл бұрын

    Really illuminating video, it doesn't seem things have gotten better since then from what I've heard

  • @kimjennings2745
    @kimjennings27452 жыл бұрын

    That is sad to hear. They are well able , yet dont . It speaks alot about how they are as human beings.

  • @sirdeakia
    @sirdeakia4 жыл бұрын

    The US is the nation with the highest concentration of jobs?

  • @dogwater6263

    @dogwater6263

    3 жыл бұрын

    *of lawyers

  • @Neon-nu6xe
    @Neon-nu6xe5 жыл бұрын

    What a bizarre but typically American perspective on the access to justice crisis in the US. It is the responsibility of government to provide adequate legal aid, not the private sector. In the absence of a property funded legal aid system, pro bono services offered by large law firms will never be able meet the needs of the community. Sure there are a few firms that could improve their performance, but keep in mind that the US has the highest levels of pro bono of any country.

  • @roqueroque6994
    @roqueroque69942 жыл бұрын

    Su numero reLefonico por fabor

  • @Lets.Go.Brandon
    @Lets.Go.Brandon4 жыл бұрын

    You're telling me that the biggest and most prestigious law firms in the country aren't lining up to hand out their services for free to every person off the street who thinks they've been wronged? That they mostly only take the cases that will benefit their firm or train their associates? You don't say... Maybe it's because these firms often require their associates and attorneys to bill upward or 2000 hours per year, which leaves them working 12 hour days and some weekends just to meet those requirements. On top of that there really isn't much time left to do pro bono work for poor old aunt Sally who slipped in Walmart (probably her mistake, but she swears it was the stores fault) or the woman in the comments section who thinks her niece and the hospital had something to do with her sisters death (I would guess that's unlikely). You are entitled to representation when your facing a criminal complaint with serious jail time, that's reasonable and the state allocates supplies to afford you that privilege. But to expect a highly educated working individual that is already regularly putting in 12 hours days to work for you for free on your more-than-likely baseless matter because "the legal system is confusing" is the height of entitlement. These pro bono hours are a gift, not a right, and they need to be viewed that way. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, take the free legal work that is given to you and say "thank you," don't ask for more. Do your own research if you're not willing or unable to compensate a hard working person for their time to do you a favor. No other job is held to such a standard. You would be laughed out of the room if you demanded that a plumber fix your water system for free because you need water or an electrician wire your home for free because you need electricity and you can't afford to pay them (and these are more compelling cases because without water or electricity you could die in some cases, people rarely die from lack of legal advice). I am sick of hearing entitled people demand free services having no understanding of the value of what they are asking for. And I am not talking about money, I am talking about a person's time and the stress such a schedule puts on a person. How many of these same people would donate 50 hours of their time a year after pulling 12 hour work days Monday through Friday and at least one 12 hour Saturday a month? I would bet not many of them could even manage such a schedule, let alone add on 50 hours. If they could then they likely would not need a pro bono attorney to begin with. Do your own work or pay up, you entitled losers.

  • @VipericVampire

    @VipericVampire

    4 жыл бұрын

    I want to print your comment, frame it and hang it on my wall.

  • @staresce

    @staresce

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nobody is asking anyone to donate huge amounts of time for free she didnt ask that she asked for less than an hour a week. And then to arrogantly deny the allegations of some person who thinks something bad happened to a loving sister sounds cruel to me How do you know? . Donating a little bit of time is something we all should do . And yes that goes for plumbers and electricians too and some probably do.

  • @Lets.Go.Brandon

    @Lets.Go.Brandon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@staresce An hour a week is 52 hours per year, which is almost a week and a half of free work over the course of the year (which, by the way, any case worth representing takes more time than that, so that is not a realistic quota). That is a lot of time when you can barely manage to meet your billable hour requirements as it is. And I deny their allegations on their face because, from experience, the overwhelming majority of these cases, like the ones I referenced, are baseless. That is another reason not to waste your valuable time on them, they are a waste of time almost every time. And you are free to donate your time, but I personally am not going to donate an extra 50 hours a year on top of my already 70-80 hour a week schedule and I don't blame big law attorney's for doing the same. It is not worth the stress, and I have to look out for my own mental health and wellbeing before I look out for someone else that I do not even know. So, ironically, I am not the selfish one, I just want to do the work that I signed up to do, you are the one being selfish by putting the burden on me to represent people for free and jeopardize my own mental health and wellbeing. I didn't sign up to be a public defender, and I do not advertise myself as one. If you would like to defend people for free, then you feel free to go through the hardship if going through college and law school and starting your own firm, if you are capable of doing that; but I suspect once you have gone though all of that work and it is suddenly you that needs to pick up the extra hours that you'll see things a little differently then.

  • @staresce

    @staresce

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lets.Go.Brandon Not asking you to represent someone who has a case you consider baseless, but instead asking you to consider choosing to make a difference in someone's life who you feel deserves help. I think it could help your mental outlook when someday you look back over your long career and find examples of cases you were involved with that you feel you made a difference . Something to be truly proud of. However if you don't really care so be it. Some people only want to represent the rich , powerful and famous people of this world , no matter how shallow, greedy or materialistic their cause or issue is.Sad but true.

  • @Lets.Go.Brandon

    @Lets.Go.Brandon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@staresce I think the fact that you think framing people that want to represent paying clients and framing wealthy people in general as "shallow, greedy or materialistic" is what is sad. I do not represent only "rich" clients, but I do only represent paying clients. You do not have to be rich to afford an attorney; there are contingency fees in some cases and other options for funding available in certain cases. If I do not get paid, my services go away and no one gets representation, which is worse for everyone. I will not apologize for providing a valuable service to society that people line up to pay for, and for not giving those services away for free. I would like to know what you do for a living and how many hours a week you work for free. You do not know a thing about my life, or what kind of positive impacts I have had on my community, my clients, and the legal profession in general. I do more good in a single year then you will ever do in your entire life, that doesn't mean that I want to work for free. I have literally changed lives with my skill. You're outlook on other people is the only thing "sad" here, because you will in all likelihood never do even a fraction of the good that I have done in my life and you have the audacity to imply that I am shallow for not working for free. It is easy to sit here and put the burden of doing all of the work on someone else. Do it yourself if you believe what you say so strongly. But people like you always put the burden on other people, you're only generous with other peoples time.