Finally! Now GW will actually have to balance the Tyranids! I hope our win rate craters so the people in charge can see how badly the whole army was crutching on gamey scoring tactics.

@niccolomiglio6996

Ай бұрын

I don't wanna be mean, especially cuz I see your optimism, but let's just say that I'm an admech player; it took them more than a year to actually think about doing something ....

@Anameisgiven

Ай бұрын

If they need to sell some remaining stock you will get buffs for those boxes. So fingers crossed they find some nids somewhere in a warehouse to sell ;)

@warp5p1d3r6

Ай бұрын

laughs in admech

@toybot99

Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m not hopeful. They’ll just do some random point changes with nothing rule or stat wise.

@Draekal

Ай бұрын

@@toybot99 Random point changes that requier you to buy another 300 points of units to make your army back up to where it was. Don't forget that little tidbit!

Golden Banana players: Never thought I would be nerfed to death side by side with a space bug.. Nids players: What about a friend? Golden Banana players: Aye...I could do that..

@SnowFoxWithAGasMask

Ай бұрын

Agreed. We will perish together

@alessandrocastronovo9275

Ай бұрын

Based Gimli and Legolas Reference

@Eassle

Ай бұрын

We will refrain from eating fruits for the foreseeable future.

@dragma907

Ай бұрын

Are custodes called bananas literally just because bananas are yellow? The imperial fists are the true bananas.

@WeDontTalkAboutJosh

Ай бұрын

@@dragma907 they also have vaguely banana shaped helmets, so they have shape as well as almost colour.

As a Tyranid player who doesn't spam biovores to win (am I the last one?), this can only be a good thing. If the faction plummets without the artificial crutch of spore mines, then hopefully the larger issue of our pillow fisted offense will be addressed. Let's go back to winning by tearing our enemies apart, not sneaking points while getting pummelled.

@devotedtodestruction

Ай бұрын

I just want a way to effectively break open tanks but I’m also okay with playing my Ynnari the remainder of 10th edition

@jamesgillam6478

Ай бұрын

I also don’t play a Biovore and I’m happy with the change, but damnnnn we’re going to need some buffs or some serious points drops lol

@warp5p1d3r6

Ай бұрын

@@devotedtodestruction 3 tyrannofex's

@devotedtodestruction

Ай бұрын

@@warp5p1d3r6 you really trusting a weapon with 2D6 damage? Maybe if it was 4D3 there’s a conversation to be had but nah brother… let’s be real.

@warp5p1d3r6

Ай бұрын

@@devotedtodestruction you will average mu dude, trust me.

I guess they sold enough nurglings

@Tehstampede

Ай бұрын

lol. Lmao

@MountPrion

Ай бұрын

They should drop them to 30 pts! Then they'll still be good for screening?

@wolfgangstallionmusic5639

Ай бұрын

I am so glad I didn’t buy any but now sad cause I was gonna buy one so I play the great unclean one…

@elijahbanks1947

Ай бұрын

@@wolfgangstallionmusic5639 They're still good for protecting great unclean one, because of their aura. Plus, screening. I'll probably combine my two units of 3 into a big unit of 6 for turn 1 screening potential

@runeh3022

Ай бұрын

@@Tehstampede just glued together 3 boxes yesterday... *curses*

Oh it's Tyranover for us nid players 💀

@Vibester0206

Ай бұрын

Well i guess its back to spam termagaunts again

@aidonpor8211

Ай бұрын

As a Tyranids and Custodes player, I'm officially cooked

@auspextactics

Ай бұрын

I strongly suspect this will genuinely be good for Tyranids in the long run, it means GW will have to actually balance their damage dealers rather than leaving them to rely on scoring gimmicks to limp into 45% wins. Guess we'll see if they compensate them in the points updates though

@MrShukaku1991

Ай бұрын

GW: "Spore Mines are now OC1"

@91elpiris

Ай бұрын

@@auspextactics the problem is that with a printed codex they will most likely do so by horde-fying the army even more with lower points costs... more money for them

Kinghts players: "I can shoot! I. CAN. FIGHT!"

@matthewgriesbach5925

Ай бұрын

Yeah, we happy.

@Alais_NorizaXIV

Ай бұрын

just need our proper bondsman abilities back and im happy

@Gallagher068

Ай бұрын

@@Alais_NorizaXIV I expect they're gonna bring it back as a different detachment rule for us, So swap the 6+/5+ FNP for two-way bondsman. Makes me wonder what they'll do for the honored variant of the rule, perhaps when honored a knight can bondsman two armigers without enhancement or maybe the bondsman abilities are all improved somehow

Personally attacked by the Chilling Rain removal 😂

@charleystewart8330

Ай бұрын

Without chilling rain, everyone needs the cards to play...

@Coclroach

Ай бұрын

@@charleystewart8330you can find stuff online

@Swampert919

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@charleystewart8330do they? If you ain’t playing in a tournament you can just use chilling rain still, and even if you can’t you can just make your own cards or use an app/random number generator.

Im calling it now. The buff for nids are the battle line boosting in the missions. Nothing more

@toybot99

Ай бұрын

On the nose!

@timunderbakke8756

Ай бұрын

Because “we need the data to know it’s going to be bad”. They can’t foresee anything and need us to show them

Nids now can get some rules other than overlapping battleshock in several phases. Or maybe make the average LD across all top armies not 6.

Admech Update! Thank the Omnissiah

@JC-qy6cx

Ай бұрын

Don't get high on the copium they've screwed us many times over

@stevencarmody1755

Ай бұрын

id wait until we see what they did ive a suspicion they nerfed the good stuff to make the bad look better typical gw

Yes!!! This is the best Update for tyranids! Finally we will suck so so hard that we will have a 40% winrate, and finally be buffed at the end of next year! 🙂🤝

@azrael2602

Ай бұрын

*closes codex* Like that's ever gonna happen...

@solid-snake7336

Ай бұрын

​@@azrael2602 SOME! BODY!

@rejectedopinions

Ай бұрын

Ahh yes, go from a 45% to like 20. Chef's kiss

RIP Tyranids, but as someone pointed out here maybe that would incentivise GW to fix the faction as a whole

GW will just lower costs for Biovore and some other units that deploy spore mines and not touch the other Nid units. (Not) looking forward to Nids getting 35% win rate.

@skalgrimfellaxe5796

Ай бұрын

Nids getting a super low win rate will reflect the actual efficiency of the faction without the unnatural prop up. I see this as a good thing because it will force them to lower points across the board. (Yes we need a reworked codex, which we will not get.)

@xkriegor

Ай бұрын

@@skalgrimfellaxe5796 I mean sure we'll probably get another pts decrease down the line but I'm not looking forward to fielding a dogwater tier army for 3 whole months.

@banishedpest115

Ай бұрын

​@@xkriegorbut that's just it. W are a dogwate tier army already. Our gameplay doesn't really change here, we just don't score as well, so if you enjoy the game is it is currently you will afterwards.

@basteala525

Ай бұрын

Hey it could be worse. Space marines have been sub 45% WR all edition and keep getting nerfs to their rules AND points. Nids have been in a bad spot, but as my second army they've been the palette cleanser. Ugh. Now both of my armies are gonna be busting their balls to hit 40 :|

@Cruxxy21

Ай бұрын

Probably better to fall now and bounce back later rather than limp along where the army currently is.

RIP. Have a feeling we won't see any major buffs for 'Nids any time soon

GOOD NEWS FOR BIG KNIGHTS! Chaos Knights "We have big knights?"

@The_Penguin_8964

Ай бұрын

Desecrator : "Ouch🥲"

@shooflies

Ай бұрын

I just now started playing I can already tell just by reading a lot of these knights seem entirely dependant on the bondsman ability. I just think it's weird the bondsman ability is so rigid? Like if I have a crusader it seems weird to me that my all ranged knight wants more ranged. I know the warden is popular because there's rarely a situation being harder to kill is a bad thing, but the rest seem to be more focused on filling a thematic idea than being usable. I don't know if that's the right way to look at it though.

@znalniaskas

Ай бұрын

@@The_Penguin_8964 There's also the Lancer who is ok, but yeah..

I have to wonder how many products will end up being called "Pariah Nexus" in the end. We've had two books already, now this, right? As a Necron player I'm still waiting for something fun in the story there.

@josephpolk9660

Ай бұрын

Not to mention a short animated series

The pariah Nexus deck hitting the deck with the largest tyranid nerf ever implemented is rather on point with the lore. Its tyranover.

Admechs main game plan was to advance and do actions. The rework really needs to take this into account.

I start to worry about the "rule changes" to Admech🤦🏻‍♂️ according to previous detechments, the so-call changes maybe "Hey Admech player, now you guys can have 1000 points of Knights in your army! Hooray!!"🤦🏻‍♂️

@gyro8332

Ай бұрын

honestly, that may be the best case scenerio

@The_Penguin_8964

Ай бұрын

​@@gyro8332Without any serious changes that has been raised FOR YEARS？Nah, I don't think so🤦🏻‍♂️ But hey, that's G-dumb, everything will happen🤦🏻‍♂️

@skilledwarman

Ай бұрын

​@@The_Penguin_8964well you guys would finally have a way to get 1000 points on the board for less than like $800

@arbitrary_mike7833

Ай бұрын

That would actually make me interested in admech?

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

Questor Mechanicus sounds fine to me, but IDK if I like that more in Imp Knights than admech. Admech's problem is as much datasheets as it is rules. They have a bazillion skirmishers and limited actual punch and durability IIRC.

Canoptek Court Necrons hearing that OC 0 units can’t do actions, “Good thing our scarabs are OC1, right cryptek?”

@Patrick_Edwards

Ай бұрын

Cryptek: "I gotchu homie"

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

Remind me, Psycho's still REALLY cheap right? In lists without wraiths perhaps slapping that down with thralls?

@LinkiePup

Ай бұрын

Canoptek court doesn’t make Scarabs OC 1? No Cryptekh gives a OC buff??? What are you on???

@LordOffal

Ай бұрын

@@LinkiePup I knew I'd get called out on CC part but it's just you are more likely to have a cryptek near your scarabs. Read the unit description of the Scarab unit. They are buffed to OC 1 if by a cryptek

@alessandrocastronovo9275

Ай бұрын

@@LinkiePupif scarabs are within range of a cryptek model (6”) they get OC1

GW was unbelievably stupid by removing the "actions" rule from the core rules when designing 10th. It was so much easier and smoother to just have it all written in one base rule. And now we've had all these months in confusing overly ambiguous chaos over still "doing" actions but not calling it that. I swear, GW has the worst rules writers in the industry, just plain stupid.

@rileygoddard7181

Ай бұрын

There's benefits and drawbacks if you ask me. I got really confused about "psychic actions" in the one game of 9th edition I played. But I did understand regular actions well enough.

@Dementia55372

Ай бұрын

GW absolutely hates learning their lesson. The same thing happened with indirect.

@Giby86

Ай бұрын

@@rileygoddard7181 What's the benefit in removing the term "action" but still requiring people to in effect DO actions and writing the same paragraph on every card instead of just once in the manual and app?

@rileygoddard7181

Ай бұрын

@@Giby86 it's that there were different types of actions in 9th that really confused me.

Im a sucker for cards. I keep thinking I'm saving money by not buying the books so they started spamming cards and now I'm broke again. Also lol. 69 cards

@Bluecho4

Ай бұрын

Nice

@Tehstampede

Ай бұрын

Nice

@jacobshugart4251

Ай бұрын

Nice

@veiddimaddur8354

Ай бұрын

Nice

@saintmayhem9873

Ай бұрын

Nice

A battleline buff is gonna be crazy for the green tide

@ca11rl77

Ай бұрын

I'd refuse to play against. I like having fun

@captaincorundum9788

Ай бұрын

Orks need a nerf

@johnj.spurgin7037

Ай бұрын

Maybe kroot too.

What happened to Nids being squishy but dangerous if they ever get too close? That was the whole point of the army wayyyyy back. Now they are squishy and hit like a slight breeze. The win by sneaking which is absolutely antithetical to their lore.

@tomsutton6451

Ай бұрын

Yes 10th edition is soulless 40k in many ways. Dunno why I'm still playing.

Oh I thought for a second Dark Angels index ability/the ability for certain units to retain some OC after a Battle Shock would do something after that OC needed to do Objectives change.

The rules change so fast now that buying a printed version of anything doesnt make sense at all

Watch, it'll be mostly more Points Drops for the Skittles and a change in Keywords for the Imperatives...

Knights being able to do actions is exciting

Hopefully, this means Biovores can finally come down in points and the Tyranid monsters can get a damage buff in melee. I’ve been doing just fine with Nids, but they do have internal balance issues and could use some help.

@user-ir6gb9xh7r

Ай бұрын

if only nids had tankshock

@basteala525

Ай бұрын

They're not going to update Nid stats. A lot of the early codices desperately need them but won't get it. -- Sincerely a Nid/SM player :(

@SnowFoxWithAGasMask

Ай бұрын

Same, but my playgroup is very causal

@EmperorNapoleon1815

Ай бұрын

@@SnowFoxWithAGasMask Most of my playgroup is, but a segment is more tourney-oriented than I am. Last local tourney I attended I went 3-0 for 2nd. They can definitely do well, but have a limited range of truly efficient options. Tfexes, Zoanthropes, Termagants, Hive Tyrants (in invasion fleet, especially). Maybe a dozen or so others.

@EmperorNapoleon1815

Ай бұрын

@@user-ir6gb9xh7r Amen. It’s confined to Crusher Stampede, and even then not as good, and the detachment is borderline unplayable.

GW: "We're removing the Force Organisation chart! No more mandatory units, other than a leader!" Players: "Cool! No more troops - just load up on elites and tanks!" GW: "..." GW: "So anyway, -troops- Battleline units are gonna have special abilities so that there's no reason _not_ to take them..."

@aarondickey3752

Ай бұрын

I prefer it really it isn’t required but it helps a bit if you do

@stevencarmody1755

Ай бұрын

Youre not forced to take battlelime they just get a minor buff if you do whats the issue? It's not like orks, marines and guard don't have a lot of battleline units

@RSBurgener

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@TheStreetad

Ай бұрын

The point of 'battleline' or 'troops' is to actually win the battle/do the mission whilst all your flashy damage dealers bang away at each other in the background. I might go as far as specifying that ONLY Battleline units can score objectives/do actions.

Finall end to with OC0 shenanigans. Also looking forward to balance and FAQ

chilling rain being gone is a downer, I don't particularly care for spinning the big wheel of annoying restrictions before the game starts lol

Honestly a good change. OC0 units doing actions was always weird for me.

@spacemanx9595

Ай бұрын

That's a bad change. Most actions required you to own the objective anyway. They are doing this to push infantry box sales

@shadowmancy9183

Ай бұрын

@@spacemanx9595 Talking things like Investigate Signals.

@JimH.

Ай бұрын

@@spacemanx9595 No, they're doing it to eliminate the bogus "sure my mindeless and/or mischievous critters can totally do complicated things" mechanic that so many players were abusing.

@lassemelson5668

Ай бұрын

@@JimH. these things being abused since there were little alternatives

It might be early to avoid overlapping with the AoS release

The green tide list will love the battle line boosts. It's already a strong build as it is.

If chaos space marines get points nerfs I’m going to be so pissed as necrons and admech had no changes for half a year

If you hate some rules, and your buddies also hate those rules, just ignore the dumb rules

@banishedpest115

Ай бұрын

Trouble is 10th is built to be played one way and one way only. It doesn't really work if you start going above or below recommended points, actually breaking rules gets sticky very quickly. It's just the worst casual edition.

@NeloBladeOfRanni

Ай бұрын

​@@banishedpest115precisely why 10th is a complete garbage edition

@Duppyman695

Ай бұрын

Underground 40K instead of commercial 40k, I like it. Fun before Rules *NEVER* Rules before Fun!

@deeperestmeme479

Ай бұрын

@@banishedpest115 points wise fair enough but I’m talking stupid rules. Like no actions even with assault. As long as you aren’t in a tournament and no one likes a specific rule then no reason to keep it if it runs your fun

@Pers0n97

Ай бұрын

On paper it's a cute idea. In reality it will almost always end up with people trying to force your hand into changing the rules in a way that advantage them, so yeah, no, I'm good. Just play the rules as written.

Custodes are already down and now this season is all about battle line and Custodes only have guard as battle line. Think they need to make prosecutors battle line to help out with this alongside the points drops or buffs to detachment rules

@MeasureTroll

Ай бұрын

They want you to use the detachment where they are battle line.

The new Action limits just outright kills AdMech. Part of their game plan was go assualt and grab objectives with vanguard and have infiltrators snag objectives while in combat. So I hope AdMech get some big changes to offset this abit.

@davidjones4772

Ай бұрын

its hits everyone. Most armies relied on assault to do actions.

@stu_gibson

Ай бұрын

I suspect it won't, since they also said that AdMechs rules have been rewritten. Im sure they took the new missions into consideration.

@stevencarmody1755

Ай бұрын

@stu_gibson that's what we said every edition...my ass still hurts from this editions shafting

Quick question about the battle line change: would that mean that sticky objectives are semi nerfed if you cant score as high when a battle line unit is no longer present on the objective?

Tyranids are going to have an interesting time. Let's hope these aren't the only changes the hungry hungry hive mind gets this patch.

I do love the mission deck system, here's hoping it's here to stay for good

I SHOULD be excited by this, but I'm just wondering what unnecessary nerfs my marines and nids will have next.

I think those last two are really good if your opponent has imprisoned you for turn 2 and 3, and you have fought you way out and hit him hard but at the cost of prime pts, gives you the ability to pull back those lost points

@shadowmancy9183

Ай бұрын

Anvil will definitely like those options.

With battleshock preventing actions, sounds like a buff to battleshock heavy teams like chaos knights.

@lassemelson5668

Ай бұрын

guess u havent used bs before its a very very limited happening

@josephpolk9660

Ай бұрын

Battleshock already prevented actions before, it's just it seldom comes up.

@Leviathan9173

Ай бұрын

@@josephpolk9660 Oh, well it seems actions will be more important so still a buff but thank you for the clarification.

Well, scarabs and nurglings must be running low in the shop

@jeremiegartner464

Ай бұрын

Incoming blue horrors

Honestly can't wait to try out the new deck. And be nice for my nurglings to have a well earned rest lmao. My nurglings are shredded 💪🏻 they've been putting in so much work

And now the Sisters preview drops! Schedule a maintenance cycle for the servitors, they're running hot today. On topic, most of this sounds fairly positive. I'm all for units being made to actually get on with fighting things rather than running off in random directions, and several of these changes seem to push that idea. I just hope that Battleline units don't get hit with point taxes just as they were starting to look useful again.

I really regret making my admech army mech/vehicle heavy instead of battleline heavy

@TheSpectralFX

Ай бұрын

are you a millionaire? cuz you might need to be to field a battleline of admech, Tyranid swarms are cheaper... somehow.

@josephpolk9660

Ай бұрын

@@TheSpectralFX No. Admech is expensive, but not because of their battleline (it's because of stuff like Doggos/Serberys, Birds/Pteraxii, and Chickens). Skitarii are 55 dollars for 80 points (10 models, 1.45PPD), you won't need more than 4 boxes of them 90% of the time, maybe if you want to run more rangers or vanguard you might get more, but they're also slapped in every ad mech value box so it doesn't matter as much. Plus if the Skitarii get buffed in the dataslate, they'll prolly go up in points (Vanguard were like 100pts at the start of 10th and Rangers were 125pts at the start of 10th) Termagants/Gargoyles are 45 dollars for 60/85 points (10 models, 1.33/1.88PPD) and Hormagaunts are 50 dollars for 65 points (10 models, 1.3PPD). From what I understand outside of gargoyles battleline units aren't used much currently competitively but if they buff the battleline units in some way, shape or form other than rules ways you're gonna need alot of boxes.

I am excited for the changes, I also like that they're trying to get more battleline involved. This was an area that I felt needed some help, as players had no real incentive to bring a battline unit (With exception of imperial and choas knights) I have played against many who simply excluded them altogether in favour of a stronger monster and or tank

@piotrjeske4599

Ай бұрын

People have no incentive to run battleline because they are bad for some armies. Why would you ever both find the points and have a plan to run a second unit of custodes guard?

I can't wait for future codices to have abilities that interact with actions while current codices don't get any similar options

Still kind of helps the lancer and gallant since both of those still have ranged weapons.

That was quick !

Did chaos space marine spawn just get good?

Rip my Ripper Swarms and biovores ☠

@EmperorNapoleon1815

Ай бұрын

Definitely a sad day for the Rippers. Hero to zero.

Reminder Prosecutors lost the Battleline keyword in the codex update.

Really hoping they don’t mess with thousand sons points much. I just found a list I like and im curious to see how it does in the next mission pack

@OriginalRizzler

Ай бұрын

They're buffling battleline and ksons are basically just a delivery vehicle for rubric marines, so I imagine they'll do decent.

The nid buff is that gargoyles go up only by five points this update.

My. Biggest worry is actually managing to get them.

Im pretty excited about this. Battleline being relevant is always more fun.

Battline units can perform an action while shooting but shoot at half unit strength to account for performing said action? Or just shoot with -1 or -2 models? Or...shoot with a -1 to hit for the unit?

My Cyclops Demolition Vehicles with teleport homers in the back are big sad.

They did the Harriden dirty!!! How does a giant alien dragon not have the presence to CLAIM a measly objective!?

Bye bye nurgling allies in DG

10 man heavy intercessors with a biologis is gonna be a unit now

The secret missions feel like they missed the mark again. If you are in a position to be able to score them, you could have scored primaries anyway... especially the "control 3 objectives" one. So the cap of 20 points on primary for taking a secret mission makes it a poor choice to ever take one. They need to make it less punishing to take, or no one will ever choose them. But at least the game isn't decided on a single dice roll, like gambits. There's actual gameplay decisions involved now.

I’m currently working on a full pure wolf army in space wolves, RIP the action takers and bulk of my army.

"Balancing" means "nerfing tyranids until you can't use them" in GW language

I hope nids get a big points cut honestly. Unlike with admech it's proper to be swarming the board with bugs. Feels weird that my unending swarm list has 5 less units then my buddies tau list

Bit niche but Champions of Russ detachment, get wolves +1 OC and suddenly they can do actions again?

Elder gonna be interesting

Chaos Daemons are getting a buff!!! I can see some armies building for those secret missions. Plus, battle shock has become better. That means people will try to battle shock us more often, which is good if we are in our shadows. Looking like nurgle units have become a little better. Add in some Khorne for those secret missions. A dash of Slaanesh since we cannot advance and do actions. I personally dislike Tzeentch, but I guess his flamers are the new nurglings.

Points cost wont be enough nids side. Tyrants (including Swarmy) need to have outright Ctan level defense and close to their damage, warriors should be battleline and with prime should at least mathematically tie with equivalent amount of marine terminators instead of lose horrendously or merely lose mostly if they got a charge in a 1v1.

Whoever decided that there will be 69 cards total is a legend

I think having another deck is great! More ways to play equals more fun!

The secret missions do seem like they're for a player who's spent the game destroying the opposing army but not bothered to score primary. So a player could go from 0 to 40 primary vp in 2 turns potentially, which would otherwise outpace most primaries on their own which are limited to 15 a turn, I think?

@arbitrary_mike7833

Ай бұрын

I’m not mad at that concept? Right now it’s viable to “win” the game by move blocking the enemy in their deployment zone for three rounds even if you end up with no units at the end of the game. I don’t think that’s a great or fun game design.

@therocon5343

Ай бұрын

This is good in my opinion, it should be viable to concentrate on destroying an opposing force in a wargame.

@VolcanoPheonix

Ай бұрын

@@therocon5343 Good point, particularly for a warhammer game. Just think these secret missions seem like something players will play towards from the start rather than a last ditch rubber band mechanic. (not a bad thing, just not how they're being sold)

Oooh good, more rules to buy!!

As a CSM player I'm sort of dreading new points changes so soon (barely gotten to test the new codex yet). After all, we have a detachment that has dared get a 53% win-rate atm. :-P Nurgling not being able to do actions will probably screw us pretty hard overall, but at least it's going to be a relief not having to bother about that damned spore mine as much any longer. amusing that the Chaos Spawn became even more useless though tbh. :-P or maybe not... turning units into OC 0 might have a few new use-cases given the right situations.

I know everyone is focused on the nids with the Oc 0 change for actions (and I understand why) but I am curious if we think this will hit chaos knights seeing as they loved taking nurglings so much

@jeremiegartner464

Ай бұрын

big mechs can do actions and shoot now. this will hurt the war dog spam i think. blue horrors are an option but cost more and have 10 models.

@jonpeacock5580

Ай бұрын

@@jeremiegartner464 true but chaos knights typically only have like 1 big knight maybe 2 and they typically want to be in combat unlike their imperial counter parts

@Antarctican_

Ай бұрын

@@jonpeacock5580 I'm currently building my first army which is Chaos Knights, so I too am wondering abut this.

@The_Penguin_8964

Ай бұрын

​@@Antarctican_ I personally suggest to use Tyrant+Desecrator, great fire support and well defends (Tyrant can block DS)👍🏻

As a black templar player i see pariah nexus as a win

Whats does that mean for Death Company?

1 week pre-order or 2? Should be out 15th if one week.

Titanic can shoot and score? Mayb3 big knights are playable again!

I played my admech in a local beer league and went 4 wins to 1 loss. Never had to change my list as well. There are some gaps in the army for sure but they have some gems.

@The_Penguin_8964

Ай бұрын

As a Legio Cybernetica user, I freaking hate GW destroy us🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

thankfully i've not used any OC0 tyranids units in my lists - and having fun with without them

The hive mind will adapt and overcome.

I can hear Mordian Glory selling his Cyclops all the way from this side of the internet.

Probably didn't want people to be distracted from the release of 4e aos.

That's huge for Knights. So many games I'd like to be able to do an objective, but having your 350+ point model have to do nothing for a turn is too painful.

Wonder of dark angel will get any tweaks. Probably not, huh?

Anyone else hoping they "fix" admech by cutting points in half? I want to be able to field my entire collection. And still be less than 2k.

Gw probably pushing everything forward to make sales before the financial year

As a 'Nid player, I actually rejoiced at this. I did just finish printing a biovore, but thankfully I can start using it for fun instead of autoinclude biomine bullshittery soon!

Its kind of concerning how sisters doesn't have any codex preview stuff yet like genestealers have had you dont think its going to be custodes tier level right

@The_High_SeAs

Ай бұрын

Are they an imperium faction?

@misterduck1062

Ай бұрын

@@The_High_SeAsyes. And as we’ve seen time and time again. Imperium factions get absolutely FUCKED by GW. So they’re gonna be custodes level bad.

@The_High_SeAs

Ай бұрын

@@misterduck1062 you're picking up what I was putting down :)

@banishedpest115

Ай бұрын

Nah you're fine. From the gSC previews it looks like they got the nid custodies team, so sisters should be the ork necron team.

@fateweaver9844

Ай бұрын

Sisters article is up on Warcomm. Sisters are looking good from what was shown

As someone who does big bugs for tyranids i dont mind this

So what does this mean for drukhari, if anything?

Time for dread talons to do work

I hope they give some point updates to SM. Would love to actually Use Roboute without a 350 point hit. The grand strategist loses games for you now just on that alone.

Happy Chaos Knight noises

Well, tyranids win rate is about to drop unless they have dramatic point drops