Beyond Clone Hero - What's next for Guitar Hero games?
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Chapters:
Intro / Clone Hero - 00:00
Strikeline - 02:22
ScoreSpy - 05:11
New Games / RhythmScape - 06:58
Fret Smasher - 08:23
DownBeat - 11:32
Guitar Hero & Rock Band - 12:23
Final Thoughts - 14:40
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doopian: / doopian
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MadGamer: / madgamerofficial
MatteoGodzilla: / matteogodzilla
Miscellany: / miscellany
no1mann: / no1mann
randyladyman: / randyladyman
Karl Jobst's "The Biggest Cheater In Guitar Hero History Was Finally Caught": • The Biggest Cheater In...
RhythmScape Discord: / discord
Fret Smasher on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/14...
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DownBeat Discord: / discord
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Perfect video for this Jason. Please do more video essays like this!
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely planning to. Thanks, dude 🙏
@killacondor
Жыл бұрын
Totally agreed
@imbabaganoosh
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, this was a fantastic breath of air into the community in general. Really shows off the fact that the games aren't getting stale, and innovation is constantly happening. Looking forward to what else you have to show for us!
@FunctionallyLiteratePerson
Жыл бұрын
wish it got into more of scorespy vs cloehero stuff, but couldnt agree more. Im definitely looking forward to rhythmscape and hope development goes well.
@jellybIood
Жыл бұрын
So which one of you two would win in a GH face-off battle??
Trombone Champ of course.
@Legoman99573
Жыл бұрын
Just bought it. I think it's hilarious game 😂
@mardukas13
Жыл бұрын
I was to comment this. Thank you, king
@uncommon_shadow2742
Жыл бұрын
Guitar Hero on the PlayStation 5 that will be up next
@uncommon_shadow2742
Жыл бұрын
Of course I am talking about a reboot
@Legoman99573
Жыл бұрын
@@uncommon_shadow2742 With thousands of ads and microtransactions on a mobile device 💀
The one thing missing from all these indie games is the whole character system. I love seeing the characters/avatars from the old Guitar Hero and Rock Band games. I know it's much more complicated than just making some notes go down a land, but man, that's where a lot of charm of the old games comes from.
@streetxjammingdualxscreens9228
Жыл бұрын
Check out a mod called Guitar Hero World Tour Definitive Edition!!
@IAmValefree
Жыл бұрын
This. Man I miss the characters and the connection you have w them and the stages and animations and *everything.*
@loficovers_
Жыл бұрын
100% agree. I've downloaded and synced all the videos from the GH and Rockband games just to get more of the nostalgic feel when playing.
@CAPTAIN_CLOCK
Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment!!! The one thing, apart from the setlist, that made me even get Warriors of Rock was the characters, and how each had their unique powerup and transformation. I'm thinking that if characters can't be brought back (the Guitar Hero characters themselves like Axel, Judy, Echo, Casey etc are probably under IP protection so those specific characters are definitely not coming to fan games), maybe at least those wacky powerups can be brought back. It was so fun playing WoR with the x24 multiplier, star power generator, streak guardian, etc. But seeing your character rock out with their specific animations and the outfit you chose was what kept me on Guitar Hero for so long instead of moving to Clone Hero.
@inventionscreator8875
5 ай бұрын
@@loficovers_thats like 200gb 💀
Missing a big piece of history with FoF, FoFiX, and Phase Shift (and the unwritten drama behind their Steam release). Good work for your first video essay!
@RustyShackleford556
10 ай бұрын
Steam release drama?
@vandorb12
10 ай бұрын
@@RustyShackleford556 the current known reasons behind the delisting of the PS Steam release is hearsay; there isn't any documented evidence on the dwsk website or forum stating the actual reason from the developers themselves. There are theories, but discovering them I leave as an exercise to the reader.
Loved the video Jason! FretSmasher looks WAY more appealing than the last time I saw it, it's wild the devs have got so far with it
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Frif! Appreciate what you do for the community too. 🙏
I love that you added the clip from me working on the pause menu for downbeat, definitely have talked about keeping it as a cheat as well 🤣
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Please do! The clip is great. Can't wait to see how the game turns out 🤘
I love rhythm games so much. No other genre of games is fueled so much by the fans, whether it's making custom songs, making entire games to replace old or regional arcade titles, to even making custom hardware. Modded plastic guitars, DDR platforms and whatever other weird controllers we need. For a genre that often feels incredibly niche, the people that care put in so much love and effort and I love it dearly.
@3nertia
Ай бұрын
Many hobbies are like this. Drone hobbies, various games have followings, etc. Almost as if humans are social creatures ...
Jason's laugh is so contagious, I actually started doing it.
@mattr071
Жыл бұрын
I STARTED DOING IT TOO FOR LIKE A YEAR STRAIGHT BECAUSE OF JASON LMAO
@actuallyasriel
Жыл бұрын
ME TOO LMAO one of my partners even pointed out "oh god you have the jasonparadise laugh"
In all honesty i am so happy this video exists, especially when get to learn that alternatives exists that is not just being on Clone Hero only Thanks for making this video dude!
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks! 🤘
Incredibly well done Jason. Your narration and formatting throughout the entire video was done so well. Keeping what matters most as the focus throughout the video was excellent, and showing off everything in the future to come is really eye opening. I can tell all the work went to good use with this video. Absolutely fantastic job! Also, I made a quick joke during the premiere, but I would genuinely love an e-book narrated in your video essay voice. That shit was SMOOTH. LOL
JasonParadise got a good voice for long form content like this.
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Definitely stepping into uncharted territory here. Looking forward to doing more like this 🤘
This video is amazing. I spent most of my childhood playing GH3 on my brother's Xbox 360, which he one day just sold. When I discovered a few years ago that people were STILL playing GH/RB styled games despite the lack of official titles, I was blown away. I downloaded clone hero and my favourite tracks from GH3 and I was hit with nostalgia as soon as I started "strumming" with my keyboard. Knowing that whatever happens to Clone Hero/Strikeline, there are passionate and dedicated people that are ready to do everything they can to keep this community alive fills me with unbridled joy. Thank you Jason for randomly popping up in my youtube recommendations when you did.
Excellent video, Jason! I’m a big fan of video essays, and would love more of this kind of content if it’s something you wanna create
Fantastic video, Jason. I just recently got into Clone Hero (Put 1000+ hours in almost every GH & RB game back when they were relevant), so I've still got a lot of great stuff to play and stream. One thing I would say is really important to me going forward, would be the presentations going on in the background. Although having 3D models synced up with every single custom would be amazing (just not realistic), even things as simple as a music video go a very long way for me. Some of my favorite downloads are anime OPs with video backgrounds of the openings. I think GH WT DE did a good job reminding everyone how fun the little things besides the 5 fret gameplay were. Creating your custom characters, making your instruments, earning $ while playing to buy new clothes, venues, etc. All of this stuff was always a blast to mess around with. I really hope we see this again in a future game.
Late to commenting, but as I said during the premiere, this was an exceptional video essay! As an outsider, someone who is just entering the rhythm game scene, this is a great way to be introduced to what's going on in the community, as well as to help be excited for what's to come when you join the community, too. You never stray from the main topics at here, staying consistent and tightly fixed into just letting everyone know everything going on. The editing feels oddly comforting, it's very obvious this video came from the heart, it's a topic you have a lot of care for, and the effort you put into this video reflects that heavily, which is something I personally enjoy in this kind of content. It helps a bunch that this is really the only video of it's kind, too. It feels extremely personal, and it's not something we get to see from you a whole bunch on the KZread side of things. You've said it yourself in your latest streams, that while the playthroughs are still so much fun and helps showcase other talented individuals in the community, you never really get the chance to show off YOU, YOUR personality, YOUR humor, YOUR charm. It's only really apparent during streams, which I bet most people here probably don't get to catch half the time. Whether it's video essays, other games, or simply just you at a camera talking about shit like you sometimes get to do on the streams, I think I can speak for all of us by saying that we NEED more personality-driven content from you, man. Wonderful video, Jason. Cannot wait to see where not only the channel goes from here, but the guitar-game community as well!
I've only been a part of this community for 2 and a half years and it's cool to see where things started, and how they have progressed. I started when Clone Hero already existed and never played GH3 with customs, but I'm glad to be a part of it now. This video is great dude, would love to see more!
Jason, this video was amazing!!! I love the optimistic ending, it's nice to have a feel-good ending to an essay like this c: Also - You may not be aware, but I was the main force behind writing the blog posts back when I was a community manager in the CH team. I'd be happy to talk more about them / my knowledge of the inside workings of that team, though it's been a couple years since I stepped down. If you ever want to revisit the CH / StrikeLine topic specifically, feel free to hit me up :)
I've always observed Clone Hero from afar exactly because a controller is so tough to get, even though the game looks cool and the community's content creators always find new ways to make it interesting to watch, like you, Acai and charters/mashup creators and even composers like CosmicLatte, Jarvis and others. That's kind of why I also hope for an eventual, more accessible reboot of GH. Either way, great essay!
@FunctionallyLiteratePerson
Жыл бұрын
Ive been playing CH with my (typing) keyboard and it's pretty fun. I was able to land a controller but sadly have to wait for a raphnet adapter to come back in stock for me to use it since apparently other adapters suck ass. Hopefully a reboot or sequel can get more controllers out there, as well as adapters - unless new ones would just be USB.
@beardalaxy
Жыл бұрын
@@FunctionallyLiteratePerson honestly, just get a wiimote and bluetooth dongle for the time being. it's really not that bad.
@beardalaxy
Жыл бұрын
there are a lot of different options for guitars! you can get cheap amazon ones and just swap out the parts with custom ones that the community has made. you can 3D print them. stopping by your local thrift shops and smaller local game stores, they usually have some in stock. ask around within your family and friends, there's bound to be someone that still has a dusty guitar sitting somewhere (that's how i got my drums). or there are the people who refurb guitars and spiff them up with mechanical frets and then sell them again, like 760creations. that'll definitely run you a premium though and they aren't often in stock.
I'm so glad to see this genre still alive and (mostly) well. The Guitar Hero, and later Rock Band, series of games have been a huge influence on my music taste. I still vividly remember going to the mall with my grandpa back in 2007 to pick up a shiny new guitar + game bundle of Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80's after watching a friend play it. I didn't have a PS2 before that, but as luck would have it a friend gave his old PS2 to me so that I could buy and play the game. I remember competing against a friend every weekend, we were both at about the same skill level, and neither of us improved drastically over the other, which made our competitions so fun and intense. Some of the best memories I have. I fell in love with the series and that style of game, and that's a love that lasts to this day.
Okay, I absolutely LOVE your voice during this, and the funny parts really hit too, you absolutely should make more video essays like this. If there was one more thing I would’ve like you to mention, it would be GHWT:DE, that’s would’ve been nice, and just throw in Trombone Champ at that point, that would’ve been funny. Thanks for making this video, Jason. It came out at the perfect time for the community.
AMAZING video Jason! Definitely well thought out and researched :) I truly believe, with the reach we have thanks to CH and those that helped spread the word, that 5 fret rhythm games (and the communities within) wont be going away! Also, thank you so much for the mention :D Truly didnt expect it, and it really is an honor to have been a part of the ground that was broken for GH and eventually CH streaming :)
As someone who made a song that's a part of the official Fret Smasher setlist, I got early access to the game, and I gotta say it's a really interesting game and a great alternative to Clone Hero. Id definitely recommend it to those that wanna try something new!
10/10 would watch again. For your first time I thought it was really well made and your topics of conversation articulated fantastically.
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🤘
You have a great voice and cadence for video essays. This was really well done. I got into Clone Hero watching your videos years ago. I hope we get some kind of update on what's going on with that game soon but it's good to know that there are alternatives out there to explore.
It's very interesting to watch this in a post-festival world and right after the un-aliving of ScoreSpy.
@gamerperson2294
3 ай бұрын
and also rhythmscape
@marie0llie
3 ай бұрын
and also after watching half these projects slowly die out and yarg rise (mightve been my fault LMAO)
❤ need more essays
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Would love to keep making videos like this. Feedback so far has been great. 🤘
Please do more video essays, this is fantastic
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely will. Always loved sharing song playthroughs, but making a fully produced work like this is a completely different joy. Something more than "hey watch me play this song" and then it's done.
9:26 Momma, I'm on a certified hood classic video!!!! Thanks Jason for playing my chart. That made me so happy :)
@EternalxHero
Жыл бұрын
Te quiero mucho metalli
@metalli3212
Жыл бұрын
@@EternalxHero yo también bbto
Top video. I'm confident everything will reach new heights because there is so much stuff with this game that just hasn't been invented yet.
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate this, Schmutz. Agree things still have a bright future, especially with the talent in the community 🤘
@secretivesolitude8233
Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Completely agree! Also the legendary Schmutz has spoken 🙏
you got the perfect voice for this kind of video, looking forward to more
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Next one is a few days away
Amazing video Jason, a very nice summary of the situation regarding the 5 fret scene, very tightly constructed and easy to understand. Thank you for this kind of video
Jason you totally nailed the format, topics and pacing of this video! Please do more essays! This was so well done 🤘🏼
Holy fucking shit. I just recently got back into the scene with Clone Hero. I had no idea how far they've come with this series!!!!!!!!!
Fantastic video, really well done, hope to see more like it soon!! ❤
i honestly found this really cool, i honestly had no idea for these other games that were either in the works or out. this was super enjoyable, good stuff man
Somehow really late to watching this, but just wanted to all the positivity about this video. For your first video essay I'd say you knocked this out of the park. Silky slick presentation, one heck of a narration voice and frankly a really engaging story to tell. I hope you do more of these in the future. And on the content side, it's good to see the genre isn't going away any time soon.
Yo Jason, loved this video / format dude! I don't normally consume your CH content, but this was interesting af. Thanks a lot for making!
Love it, really well done Jason. Thanks for keeping someone like me, who is not really active in the GH/CH scene in the loop. Keep up the good work!
Videos like this are amazing Jason! Thank you so much
I have such a history with the Hero franchise. From starting on GH2 at a friend's house on his PS2 to me owning most of the games and 400+ DLC songs on Rock Band. My house became the party house growing up for video games and Guitar Hero and Rock Band played a huge part. As we all got older, people stopped coming around as much due to life and jobs and school but with the introduction of Clone Hero and all of the meme charts that came out it sparked a new way of looking at these types of games and we all got curious at the wacky chart people made. Now, in 2022, because of Clone Hero, my childhood friends and I started dusting off my old Xbox 360 to have nostalgia trips down memory lane playing Rock Band like how we did years ago while spouting off Clone Hero memes.
Let me just say bro, I didn't even know Fret Smasher existed until you brought it up here. I've been playing it for the past few days and I've been absolutely loving it so far! You are the best!
Great video, I really enjoyed it and it was honestly very informative. Props to you!
I love the way this was formatted! You do excellent research!
Great video dude! I loved guitar hero back in the day and after discovering Clone Hero this year it’s been a game changer!! Excited to see what the future holds!
Love long format videos like these, keep them up Jason! Also, thanks for showing other alternatives for Clone hero, I wasnt aware of them and probably wouldn't even try to find them if CH were gone.
Excellent video, would love to see more essays! Rock on
i immediatly asked for fret smasher access after this video, thanks alot for the wonderful info jason!
This is some banger content Jason. You can really feel your passion for this community, and desire to drive things forward
This is the most thorough and current information I've seen about the state of RB/GH style rhythm games all in one place. Excellent video, I'll be linking all my music gamin' friends!
Nice piece, very thought filled and thought out. Cheers man, more uploads of you playing please - your, infectious, laugh makes my partner so happy.
Great video, love this format! You nailed it
Awesome vid Jason, keep it up, I had no idea bout any of the future past clone hero. Super informative!
Simply beautiful vid Jason. Keep up the outstanding work man. Very proud of you and this community as a whole 🤘
This was quite insightful. I don't play rhythm games because I don't have the equipment, but I love watching people like you and Acai playing them.
I love listening to these types of videos, and you do a fantastic voiceover
This was an awesome video, you brought forward a lot of info, spoke it well and unbiased!
This video is very well made. Nice job Jason
That was a really good video essay. It was informative and entertaining to listen to. Great presentation. I think you got a thing for this style of video.
One thing I'd like to add about Rock Band 4, something that I never see mentioned in these type of videos or articles/posts. It was said that Harmonix continues to release new songs for RB4 every week, and this is true and an absolute privilege for the community, considering the economic state of things surrounding these games. But perhaps even more important (and what I never see mentioned) is the fact that Harmonix continues to operate and support the RB4 Rivals competitive online mode. IMO this is what keeps the RB4 community engaged even to this day, 7 years after the game's initial release. And there are certainly costs to Harmonix in terms of servers to calculate the leaderboards and support the mobile app, and staff to continue producing new content and manage the Rivals seasons. Bravo to Harmonix for sticking with it, and I hope someday they and the community will be rewarded by getting the chance to make RB5.
absolutely fantastic video, opened my eyes to a lot of things that i never knew existed. it's healing to see just how passionate so many people are about keeping this genre alive!
Fantastic video, enjoyable and informative all the way through. Loved it and hope you're able and enjoy making more similar content!
This was a very interesting video to watch, thanks Jason!
I extremely loved this video ♥️ I'm really looking forward to more videos like this!
I would said the same as your video about competitive Guitar hero, I love this format! Your voice and the editing is top notch! Keep it up!
Yo this was super entertaining! I would love to see more content like this from you Jason, you have the voice for it too. :D
really well made video, i didn't know about a lot of the alternatives to clone hero and I am excited to see what the new games offer
we NEED more content like this!! you are filling a gap in the 5 fret community that i didnt know we needed!!
Great video! An addition to the subject could’ve been the RB3/RB4 customs as they provide a better experience to play co-op with friends and family locally if you know how to jailbreak your console. Unfortunately the developer working on the RB4 customs tool passed away a couple of years ago but I hope someone can pick up the project and continue developing it.
This is seriously good stuff, even more so being your first video essay!
This essay was great, Jason. Thanks dude :D
Dude! You said this was your first video essay format, but made it like you knew how to do it! You should make more videos like this! Great job man!
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
All that time watching SuperEyepatchWolf and similar folks sorta paid off? 😅 More will happen🤘
Awesome video, Jason. Excited to see you go over GH Live
THIS IS YOUR FIRST VIDEO ESSAY?! Bro, this is pretty high quality production already. If your VO, editing, and pacing stay at least this good, all you need is more scripts and you've got a Game Theory to pair with your GTLive (so to speak, you've got your own vibe going pretty well.)
I can’t believe your changing content,I’ve been watching your videos for decades now! I love you Jason! Keep up the work!
Good video Jason. Your narration really kept me engaged for the whole thing. You should definitely do more videos like this. In terms of the future, I hope Clone Hero is around for a very long time to come. I remember 2 or 3 years ago, I went out and bought my first gaming PC for the sole single reason to play Clone Hero and dive head first into the community. In the time since I have found a home in the Clone Hero “world.” While 1 or 2 of these projects do indeed have potential, I hope clone hero stands tall and strong. 🤘🏻
Amazing video essay! Please continue to do more. Also as an aside, can we get a laughter compilation? Hearing you at 9:25 was awesome LMAO
Great video! It was you who got me into charting and playing Clone Hero.
Fantastic video essay Jason!!
thanks 4 the captions jason love u
Strange but not unwelcome, I always like to see more JasonParadise
Loved watching this video. Gonna make a grown man cry and go through so many emotions here. I appreciate you giving us some info on things. Keep it up ❤️
Firstly, that laugh was freaking legendary. Secondly, I hope a new GH/RB game gets made cause I would love to get a new controller and start playing again. And finally, I loved this style of video and I would gladly watch more videos of this style!!!
Quality video! It's nice to see most of the games being presented and showed off for what they are! I'm interested in Downbeat!
@Partyboi_XT
Жыл бұрын
heya, one of the devs for downbeat here. honestly very excited to see you interesting in downbeat, but were just getting started baby ;) if you wanna check out more we have a few more up to date things to show in our discord :)
@TheStevieP
Жыл бұрын
@@Partyboi_XT 👀👀👀
I am a huge, huge fan of both this genre of games, and of video essays. Bless you JP
Great video Brother, I have been playing CH in my offtime for the last 2 years. it was you, Acai and UKOG that spawned my interest in that style of game again in the first place after not playing one since Rock Band 3. I'm definitely nervous for their future and how big they will be with the whole DMCA issue on twitch as you know but its exciting at the same time that theres so much potential hidden within thats yet to be found
Damn. I’ve casually been a fan of Acai and you, so I had no idea the grand scale of Clone Hero stuff going on, good and bad. Great work, my guy. Brought me up to speed, and had me looking to the future. Now, to get a damn controller.
10:40 You do not realize how close to actually making a pog face I came when I heard "keyboards ... turntables" in that list
i'm super happy to see you uploading again
Great video! I'd love to see a follow up about anyone still making new plastic instruments
All and all i think you described the situation, pretty clear and good what the situation is, and was quite nice to get at little bit of background as well as what is upcoming in the future 🙂 Really nice video and it would be fun to have more of this in the future 🙂 Really enjoying your videos so hope you continue to make amazing videos like this and lots of the other in the future as well 🙂
I've just recently gotten into clone hero, but I cannot wait to see what other alternatives exist
The date was September 2006, 10 year old me was on Holiday in Orlando Florida, in a walmart I see a game kiosk for a cool looking game where you used a Guitar Controller and played rock songs, I played it for as long as I could before being dragged off it by my parents, it stuck with me, and on my 11th birthday the following month I got bought it, Guitar Hero for Playstation 2, what started as something I wanted quickly grew into a thing my Dad and friends would all play together, we bought every game on release, and although it's only me now, I moved into the GH3 PC Modding scene and then later onto Clone Hero, it's crazy to imagine that I've playing this game on and off for almost 16 years, as good as Clone Hero and the modern games are, I wish something would release that would capture the lightning in the bottle that the original first 3 games were, for me even as a young teenager and up to now, nothing has ever topped Guitar Hero 3. The community is waiting.
This is great to see!
I'd seen Scorespy being used on the bigger Twitch channel streams but wasn't aware of what it was called. So thanks for letting me know!
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy! Definitely makes the game feel more like a community with the leaderboards. Makes all the difference.
I really enjoyed this video. Please do more like these. Maybe even do some videos on like the guitar hero/Rock band handheld games.
Please make more videos like this, I just simply love this 🤩❤️🔥
I have a feeling this video's not gonna perform as great as other stuff on the channel but this was awesome. I really hope you get the chance to do more!
@JasonParadise
Жыл бұрын
Uncharted territory for me, but it's also something I'd love to do more of. More meaningful. Passion has to come first and hopefully others enjoy it. We'll see🤘
This video is so good! Keep it up and don't work yourself too hard!
Dig the format, do more plz!
Loved the video, hope to see more like this.