Thanks for the video Andrew...I have several of the third parties, but I am going to be migrating out of them...the pop up asking me if I want to continue to use the battery is annoying and always comes at the most inopportune time....plus with the FX3, eventually the remain power percentage goes away and you only see a white outline of the battery. In order to check the remaining power, you have to turn the camera off and back on the see it. My older Z batteries are all fading (they lasted about 4 years of hard work) and now with these two issues above (at least for the FX3), I'm going to stick with the OEM. May not be a problem for other cameras but for the ones I am using, that is no bueno.

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

No problem, Paul! Yeah I hear you, the warning is definitely a bother to some, and it's a moving target as to whether the third-party manufacturers can stay ahead of it. Getting that many years out of the OEM batteries is pretty impressive all things considered.

Thanks for this review. I look forward to your follow-up in 6 months or so for durability 😊.

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

No problem, Ben!

@anrn5303

13 күн бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni so how did it fair?

@andrewsaraceni

12 күн бұрын

@@anrn5303 It's held up well - still holds its charge as expected.

@anrn5303

12 күн бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni thanks I went for K+C option... they have 2 pack option and best price :)

Thank You! I have the exact same one, but under the Neewer brand, in brown. I noticed that when I charge and shoot 4K video at the same time on the Sony a7IV, I get overheating. Unfortunately, their Type C does not support fast charging protocols. To do this, I purchased an ISDT NP2 Air charger. It charges the battery in 1.5 hours

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

No problem! Glad to hear that's working better for you, I'd be curious if the overheating behavior with the battery changes depending on resolution, frame rate, etc.

@User-pq2yn

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni I think overheating depends on the power consumption of the camera. I recently carried out a test by connecting a dummy battery to the a7IV through a wattmeter. I noticed that increasing the framerate from 25fps to 50fps has almost no effect on power consumption, even at 4:2:2, 10bit. But when switching to 100fps, power consumption increases significantly. Consumption also increases when Active Stabilization is enabled. Here are some indicators: XAVC S HD: 1) 25p and 50p, 50M, 4:2:0, 8bit: Active stabilization off: Standby - 5.5W, Rec - 6.2W (APS-C mode - 6.3W/7.6W) Active stabilization on: Standby - 5.7W, Rec - 6.4W (APS-C mode - 6.3W/7.6W) 2) 100p, 100M, 4:2:0, 8bit: Active stabilization - off (not supported) Standby - 7.4W, Rec - 8W (APS-C mode - 7.0W/7.6W) XAVC S 4K: 1) 25p 100M, 4:2:0, 8 bit: Active stabilization off: Standby - 8.4W, Rec - 8.9W (APS-C mode - 6.6W/8W) Active stabilization on: Standby - 8.8W, Rec - 9.4W (APS-C mode - 6.7W/8W) 2) 50p, 100M, 4:2:0, 8bit, ⚠APS-C mode Active stabilization off: Standby - 6.6W, Rec - 9.2W Active stabilization on: Standby - 6.6W, Rec - 9.3W Thus, we see that the a7IV consumes the most when recording 4K, 25fps with Active Stabilization enabled. In this mode it eats a lot even on standby

@andrewsaraceni

3 ай бұрын

@@User-pq2yn Really interesting, thanks for sharing your results!

I use 3rd party batteries for all 3 of my Sony cameras. I use Ravpower and have had great success with all of them. They work just as good as my OEM batteries and I'm not paying $80 a piece for them. I get two batteries and a charger for $40 that work just fine. And I have not had one issue in 3 years. But I do like the fact that you can use usb-c to charge these small rig batteries. I will have to give one a try

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

Glad to hear your experience has been positive! Haven't tried the Ravpowers, but I can say these are definitely worth a shot.

@kevincreaghan916

2 ай бұрын

2 Ravpower + 1 Sony since 2019. All still holding charge well.

@LMActionsports

2 ай бұрын

@@kevincreaghan916 yeah I forget what kind of third-party brand of battery that I had issues with but the only really issue I had was in my Sony A9 when my battery grip switched over to the second battery after the first one drained it popped up saying incompatible battery and it would not work in the battery grip. But if I took the battery grip off it would work in the camera but that defeats the purpose of having a battery grip but the rav power works great and all three of my cameras. Glad to hear yours are working fine also

Can you charge this while also using it.... lets say USBC charge from a V mount battery so you can also now use the native USBC port for other accessories..... like a follow focus that can remotely control the A7R5 zoom and record start stop.

@andrewsaraceni

5 күн бұрын

Not sure about from a V-Mount battery, but from my testing, it does appear it can be charged and used silultaneously.

Thanks for your video work! One question for this one, can you plug the battery and charge it at the same time? To get infinite battery life

@andrewsaraceni

2 ай бұрын

No problem, Mickael! I mentioned this in another comment - a quick test on my a7 IV did show it seems to work. The supplied USB-C cable is a little tight, but if you nudge it it'll fit. You'd need to test further to see if/how it charges vs. consumes power though (i.e. not sure if infinite or a slower drain, etc.).

@mickaelpyr

2 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni Great! Many thanks

@BurekNeinDanke

2 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni If one would let's say plug usb c in 99Wh V-mount battery and usb C into this battery and put it in the camera would it be able to last all day instead of dummy battery? :)

@andrewsaraceni

2 ай бұрын

@@BurekNeinDanke That's an interesting idea....can't say I've tried it, but I could see that potentially working. 🙂

@jasmincurry8930

2 ай бұрын

i was juat thinking the same thing instead of dummy batteries

Never had issues with 3p Batteries baxtar pantona 👌 as I know these Batteries doesn’t work on fx3 right?

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

These do work with the FX3 - basically, any Sony camera that takes the NP-FZ100 battery.

@iamwannabefilmmaker

4 ай бұрын

Cool! I don’t have the fx3 but it’s nice to buy a battery that is compatible maybe for a future buy

What firmware did you have in this video? its the a7iv right?

@andrewsaraceni

5 күн бұрын

Depends on the camera - for the a7 IV, I have the latest now, but in the video I think was on 2.x (can't recall the minor). I tested it on all of my cameras - a7S III, a7 IV and a7R V.

How are they holding up 4months after this review? Still holding good power?

@andrewsaraceni

16 күн бұрын

Still going strong, no noticeable loss of battery life yet.

How long does it take to charge? Does it have fast charging?

@andrewsaraceni

8 күн бұрын

Same as a regular NP-FZ100 battery, and yes it supports fast charging.

do these batteries still work with the recent firmware upgrade?

@andrewsaraceni

26 күн бұрын

Yes, they still work fine, might just receive a warning notice and/or change in how the battery percentage is displayed, depending on the model.

@BryanMiraflor

25 күн бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni i wonder if Sony did that on purpose (they probably did) or if they're gonna release another firmware update after all the backlash - they probably won't cause they wanna make more sales on their own batteries lol

@andrewsaraceni

25 күн бұрын

@@BryanMiraflor Yeah, I think that' exactly it. Probably a back and forth between the camera companies and third party battery companies to see who can get ahead of each other quicker.

Hi. After firmware update, still display battery power percent?

@andrewsaraceni

2 ай бұрын

It's worked fine for me in the latest versions of Sony firmware (a7S III, a7 IV, a7R V) doing some cursory testing.

@Brazefuze

2 ай бұрын

how about the FX30?

@andrewsaraceni

2 ай бұрын

@@Brazefuze Haven't gotten to test it with the FX30 myself.

@raphaelliioo

Ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceniHave you updated to v3.00? Does the popup appears at all? I’m using a A7iv and looking forward to get third party batteries but I’m afraid I’ll have to deal with the popup and I don’t want that to ruin important shots

@andrewsaraceni

Ай бұрын

@@raphaelliioo On the a7S III v3.0 firmware, I got the popup once, but it didn't appear after that. If you're recording, it won't show. It does limit seeing the available % you have left (not as granular as with Sony batteries).

What are 4265 and 4265b differences?

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

From what I know, basically the same battery, just removes the battery warnings on some newer camera models, so it's an "update" to the original.

@travelpatron

4 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni which one is new “B” type?

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

@@travelpatron Yeah, 4265B is the new one.

@travelpatron

4 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni thanks

Can they be charged while in use? say for streaming?

@andrewsaraceni

3 ай бұрын

It should be a similar charging situation to using regular Sony NP-FZ100 batteries, so likely depends on what source is powering the camera.

@adverspace

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni I meant... From the USB-C on the battery... If I charge it while using and keep the battery door open.... Is that possible too?

@andrewsaraceni

3 ай бұрын

@@adverspace Gotcha, I did a quick test on my a7 IV and it does seem to work. Supplied USB-C cable is a light tight, but if you nudge it it'll fit. You'd need to test further to see if/how it charges vs. consumes power though.

@adverspace

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni Thank you so much 😄!

@ldmndz4652

2 ай бұрын

There is also this option SmallRig 4268B Sony NP-FZ100 Dummy Battery with Power Adapter from BH Photo for continuous power..

Smallrig has a version of this to Canon too (LP-E6NH). I get only around 1000 pics with the Smallrig and I get over 2000 pics with Canon. Still Smallrig claims their has more mAh.. And my R6 MkII refuses to charge via usb, if it has the Smallrig battery. But the worst is I once lost all videofootage from prom, when the Smallrig suddenly died during video footage, even though there should have been 25% battery left. I could live with less pics and no usb chatging, because the battery is cheap. But dead camera during video capture is devastating.

@andrewsaraceni

3 ай бұрын

I do wonder if it's something at the firmware/software level that handles predicted remaining charge, compatibility with using external power with the battery, etc. that might explain that. Though I don't expect we'd ever hear that from Canon - I haven't had any of those issue with my Sony cameras.

@erik.karlsson

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewsaraceni I don't know, maybe. But no more 3rd party for me, if the footage is critical. 😄

Only once I bought third party batteries for my Sony and they worked equally as well as Sony. For a short time. Then they wouldn’t hold a charge so became worthless. I’m interested in seeing how these perform after a year or two use.

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

Yeah the long term life is always a question - so far, so good I will say for these.

@chaulong503

4 ай бұрын

I bought a third party battery name wasabi for my A6000, after 5 years (from 2019) the battery still hold very good ammount of power, even better than the original one come with the camera. What a suprise!

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

@@chaulong503 Glad to hear that - I've had mostly good luck with third party batteries as well - e.g. Neewer's NPF970s for lighting, etc.

Long term review in the future!

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

Definitely on the list to cover.

I got the Smallrig version for Fuji and they are better than the Fuji's. I can charge one of each to 100% and let them sit for a month and the Fuji will drain itself (it's not a smart battery designed to do that) but the Smallrig will still be 95-100%.

@andrewsaraceni

24 күн бұрын

Good to know, thanks Jimmy! I've found they're the best of the third-party options for Sony that I've tried as well.

@ChaosKamiKaze

15 күн бұрын

Is it the NP-W235? Do charges last as long as the official Fujifilm ones?

@therealjimmy5411

13 күн бұрын

@@ChaosKamiKaze yes the Smallrig hold storage charge better than the Fuji w235

These smallrig batteries seem to drain faster than the Sony stock ones, unfortunately. Has anyone else found the same?

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

I noticed it got to 0% 5-10 mins before the Sony batteries, but it had a much longer final runtime until the camera actually shut off.

@erik.karlsson

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I have same experience with Smallrig on Canon R6 MkII. I get only around 1000 pics with Smallrig, despite higher claimed mAh. With Canon OEM I get over 2000 pics. And usb charging in camera doesn't work with Smallrig. But the worst was when my camera died during video footage when I used Smallrig

@andrewsaraceni

3 ай бұрын

@@erik.karlsson Sorry to hear that, can't comment on how the batteries work on the Canon side, but I can say my experience has been completely different using/shooting with them on my Sony cameras.

I bought Digitek battery used maximum 10-15 charging then now dead😢

@andrewsaraceni

2 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that, can't say I've used one of theirs before, but that's good to know.

With the new Sony update you will get a warning message and battery level will disappear😒.

@andrewsaraceni

Ай бұрын

Good question - eventually the specific battery life percentage will disappear, and you'll just get a few bars to show battery life. You'll see the warning message if the camera's idle, but not if you're filming. Overall I'd say it works fine with it.

@kenmoto16

Ай бұрын

Hey Andrew, unfortunately that wasn't a question. I was commenting on the 3rd party warning for The smallrig battery pops up and the battery indicator will not show battery level. This has happened with the newest update from Sony on the newer line of cameras.

@andrewsaraceni

Ай бұрын

@@kenmoto16 Ah yep, I missed that. It's somewhat annoying, but doesn't prevent the battery from working at least and seeing some battery life. Basically like other third party batteries.

i would just stick to genuine Sony batteries thanks. third party batteries have stuffed up me in the past.

@andrewsaraceni

4 ай бұрын

Definitely a valid choice, it's a balance of tradeoffs.

@welshfowler

16 күн бұрын

in what way were you stuffed up?