"Saul Goodman is like a cockroach--- Even after the apocalypse hits, he's going to find a way to survive." -Vince Gilligan, prior to the launch of Better Call Saul in 2015. No way he dies, and not likely he does the time for his (or anyone else's) crime. Just can't see Gilligan and Gould ending Jimmy's remarkable story with something as unsatisfying as death or arrest.

@idkbro6195

Жыл бұрын

He was arrested. What do you think?

Thank you for calling out Kim as not an entirely sympathetic character. She too has her wily ways.

“The way I see it is somebody is going to prison. It’s just a matter of who.” Saul Goodman to Walter White and Jesse Pinkman, S2E8 “For a price, Jimmy will go to prison for you.” Saul Goodman to Walter White and Jesse Pinkman again in the very same episode. It’s amazing that the ultimate weapon that took down Jimmy was the very first thing we know about him, his commercial. So I think his endgame is also hinted in the same episode as well.

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Excellent stuff! Makes perfect sense. Thanks for your support all season, Joseph. Appreciate it!

@ZachAsaD

Жыл бұрын

Good catch! I’m convinced Jimmy will face justice, though the heavens fall

Its been pretty much confirmed Kim will appear in the finale. There are promo photos of her.....Also Bob Odenkirk alluded to her being a big part of the finale in his fan theory Q and A. Which is a huge relief for me because I would have been so upset if her story ended in Waterworks.

@legoghostyoda

Жыл бұрын

also, we have audio of her being sworn into the law and we haven’t heard that in the show yet

@anijeepa

Жыл бұрын

@@legoghostyoda that might just have been done as a teaser just like the Gene taking his wanted poster in ABQ but we also might get a flashback scene of her becoming a lawyer and we might see Howard maybe even Chuck.

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

I had always assumed (perhaps incorrectly), that there was a strong chance that audio teaser is a flashback. Curious to see how it plays out.

@nont18411

Жыл бұрын

@@anijeepa How are you so sure that the scene of wanted poster will not happen? Maybe it will really happen. The only difference is his bounty and the content in that poster.

@anijeepa

Жыл бұрын

@@nont18411 because it was confirmed by the creators to be just a teaser.

I think Kim lying to Howard's wife about not knowing that Jimmy is alive is not manipulative at all, but actually done out of her love for Jimmy. Just as her not telling Jimmy she knew Lalo was alive, she explained the reason for that was that she knew he would blame himself and panic by trying to protect her and take her away. She also never imagined they would ever come face to face with Lalo again as she thought they were being protected by Mike, which is why she yelled at him 'you were supposed to be watching us, where were you' when she went to Gus's house. The most powerful moment of their phone call was the end with her telling Jimmy 'I'm glad you're alive' because it reiterated her love and fear for his well being when also asking Francesca if he was still alive (and it's heavily implied that her wanting to know he was alive was actually the only reason she called Francesca). Her not telling Howard's wife he's still alive proves she is not going to sell him out, as she is leaving the decision to turn himself in entirely up to Jimmy. She got called out on her hypocrisy by Jimmy and realized he was completely right, which is why she stepped up and took accountability on her end. Kim did a horrible thing by what she did to Howard but her actions in the last episode prove that she is not a horrible person. (For what it's worth I also think Jimmy still loves Kim and is in no way going to sell her out either).

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Very good stuff. You make fair points all around. I still have a hard time seeing how her lying about whether she knows someone is alive - well, that's exactly what got her into this mess, so I have a difficult time believing doing the same thing represents her way out.

@joshuadoyle7969

Жыл бұрын

Doing horrible shit, even if you know it's horrible, don't truly want to, do it for someone else, which ever, you did it and if you ask me the actions make the person. Lying about Howard was horrible.

@bjrnbrynemo9059

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. They don't need to make Kim an evil genius at this point. She's perfect as she is.

@misselanys1219

Жыл бұрын

Just proves she still has shreds of dishonesty and evil in her. That's all.

@slabbyfatback2272

Жыл бұрын

Well said

Kim also threw Jimmy under the bus with that affidavit. They didn't impeach his character to accelerate the Sandpiper settlement, they did it because she was having too much fun to let it go, in spite of Jimmy's reluctance.

@salazeug

Жыл бұрын

he wasn’t reluctant at all

I don’t think they’ll kill him off since it would be too similar to Walt’s death at the end of BB. I think Gene will get caught early on in the episode, and he will be taken to court. Maybe he’ll represent himself, and Kim will be called as a witness. He’ll end up in prison where he belongs, but he still keeps on hustling and being himself there. Maybe that’s when the color comes back in his life.

@yb32

Жыл бұрын

That's what I think will happen. Him making friends at prison and having a good time would be the best ending possible. I think he would be happier there than hiding away as "Gene".

@introverthoney8876

Жыл бұрын

@yb, But Jimmy is a free spirit. How free could Jimmy feel behind bars? It’s going to kill him.

@BlackBoxProd96

Жыл бұрын

@@introverthoney8876 Narratively he has to face the consequences of his actions. Idk about the jail ending, but I’d be real surprised if he didn’t end up in a courtroom during the finale.

@yb32

Жыл бұрын

@@introverthoney8876 So... How you do you feel about this comment now 😊

@BlackBoxProd96

Жыл бұрын

@@yb32 I got pretty close 😂 However, I was dead wrong on the emotions of the ending. I was way more pessimistic, thinking that Saul would never change, and ultimately turn on Kim in the end like a coward. I’m glad I was wrong. Jimmy redeemed himself and earned his name back. Saul’s gone. But he still has to face the consequences of his actions. The bus scene is great. Nice to know he’ll have a half decent life in there. But tying it back in the end with Kim was perfect. He got what he really wanted, her respect/admiration back. The last shot is a gut punch. Not sure if I like it better than the Breaking Bad ending, but hats off to Vince Gilligan & Peter Gould. Lightning rarely strikes twice for TV spin-offs. Can’t wait to see their next stuff. It’s all good man.

00:56 Cue in Kevin Wachtell's father slowly saying "Eeeyup!"

Your description of Kim was perfection. I greatly appreciate your admission of possible mistakes you made in the past. Love the set of possibilities for Jimmy/Saul/Gene to end with. It was amazing the way the producers brought in comedy Legend Carol Burnett to play such a crucial role as Marion. Fantastic discussion of possibilities. BCS better finally win Emmys for The great acting, writing, direction and production values

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

She's amazing! Thanks for your support all season, batgurrl. Most appreciated!

@batgurrl

Жыл бұрын

@@WowLynchWow you are very welcome and the pleasure has been mine. My problem is that except for the first three episodes and the one in which Howard is killed, I have only watched them once. I deleted EP1/2 but have the rest of them on my DVR. I must binge watch the entire series again this weekend 😂😘

Instead of releasing the film El Camino, Gilligan/Gould should have launched an extended TV series (also called El Camino) showing Jesse's plight to escape from the Nazi's (in flashbacks), subsequent run from the law, to his struggle to raise the necessary funds (with the help of Badger & Skinny Pete) to escape from Albuquerque, would have made the a great third chapter in this series.

Watching Kim fall apart in the bus was really hard :( Equally hard, seeing Jimmy threaten a poor-innocent old lady. I loved the episode, but I also hated it for giving me the 'feels.' I also hope Lyle will save the day in the end :D

@ToneSherpa

Жыл бұрын

Not only could he not hurt an old lady (even if he was posturing).. but when she said "I trusted you!" his mind went straight to Irene Landry. It's so well acted on his face too. You can almost see the wheels turning in his head IRENE LANDRY

Kim deserves all the hardship she is enduring now. The world was her oyster, but she threw it all away, because she wanted to have fun with Saul’s pernicious schemes.

My Theory -Jeff stays in jail and attempts to rat on Saul to save himself, but ends up digging his grave even deeper and is now in serious trouble after admitting to his crime spree with Gene -Marion has a heart attack and dies because of Jeff's situation -Saul is on the run for awhile and attempts to reach out to Ed for another relocation, Ed informs him that the part he is looking for has been discontinued and wishes him good luck -Flashback to Saul and Walt in the bunker waiting to be relocated, have conversation about how Saul thinks Walt should turn himself in to save Skyler (ik this actually happened in BB, so there has to be something new about it, maybe they reminisce about the journey that led them both to where they are) -Police do a search of all known Fring associated locations and find the bodies under the lab, charges are pressed against Kim, she pleades guilty -Saul is constantly checking the news and happenings within ABQ sees that she actually turned herself in and threw away her life like he said she should do in their last call (there is a connection between the last phone calls for Walt/Skyler and Saul/Kim being pretty rough and not a good way to say goodbye), Saul reached out to the ABQ DA, now Ericsen, and makes a deal that he will turn himself in and cooperate if they drop charges against Kim -Fast forward Saul is in prison and the color is back, we see he is working his magic in prison and is a walking legend to the prisoners, might see some old faces from BB or BCS, he actually seems happy and is told he has a visitor, it is Kim, they make their peace and say goodbye (kind of poetic that Jimmy's story started with him being saved from prison by Chuck, and his story ends with him in prison, proving that he could never change and nobody could save him, but he accepts who he is)

@shriram2u

Жыл бұрын

Like it a lot.seems a fitting end.

@mobeytaguire8583

Жыл бұрын

I love this

@oakey_after_berth7204

Жыл бұрын

Some of these theories are TIGHT TIGHT, TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT

@alperenaydogan5312

Жыл бұрын

I will be here on next thursday

@mobeytaguire8583

Жыл бұрын

I mean… all things considered I think you got a lot of stuff right with this

A Kevin Kostner cameo would be great but not like that. Maybe Saul is in hiding watching the news and sees where Kostner has been mistaken for Saul Goodman and arrested at the airport lol.

@shure81

Жыл бұрын

Damn you. I know this won't be the ending, but now I want it to be hahaha

2:31 that was the best cry-acting I’ve ever seen

@spongebobsquaretits

Жыл бұрын

she was good but doesnt compare to this scene kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGml2baec82amsY.html

Is "yup yup yup" the new "tight tight tight"?

@prodrigues_

Жыл бұрын

"blue, yellow, pink- whatever man, just gimme that."

"Fascinating stuff", these videos of yours. I love the Sopranos and Twin Peaks references.

Loved the Twin Peaks references!!! You really brought it all back home.

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

The best BCS breakdown on the KZreads. 😂

Thank you for your videos. The most fun thing about this show was the speculation between episodes. I'll miss this show. Going to be hard for anything else to top this experience.

I absolutely love your videos, Geoffrey. Your Sopranos inserts are the best, man. Kimmy Corleone -- you should trademark that.

Kim never lied to Cheryl by saying “assuming he’s still alive”. She has no duty to tell Cheryl that she was contacted by Jimmy or help the DA track him down. Let them do their own leg work. If she was subpoenaed and under oath and asked directly if she knew whether Jimmy was still alive, that might be a different story. I suppose maybe if we subscribe to the catholic ‘sins of omission’ dogma but that’s even a stretch for me. This is simply about her coming clean with regard to her part in setting up Howard.

@shadesofgray5476

Жыл бұрын

Yep.

@basilbrush9075

Жыл бұрын

Yeah also he went missing just as shit hit the fan with Walter White, so I think it's reasonable to assume that everyone or most people in the police and public assume he is still in existance somewhere.

@basilbrush9075

Жыл бұрын

@@navajo237 As much as I hope you're wrong, that is a very interesting thought

@justindunning3313

Жыл бұрын

Technically, she does not know whether he is alive as it is possible he died after he called her.

@summerstevens2547

Жыл бұрын

Kim is protecting herself by saying "if he's alive". He is a wanted man, she's already admitted to other crimes. Not coming forward with any information she has would just be another one.

With Kim's confession, I don't think it's a stretch that some detective will suggest that Howard's body might be buried under Gus' lab. She said Gus and Mike were involved in the cover-up of his death. It seems a logical, if not obvious place to look.

"we're both too smart to throw it all away" you're 100% correct, jimmy.

I just found your channel a few days ago and have binged a *lot* of your videos, both about BCS and The Sopranos. I've been enjoying every one of them. Thanks for all the intelligent, thought-provoking (and ofen humorous) videos you share with us. I'm no Quadimodo over here, but I think I can safely predict that I will always be following your channel . 😄

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Let me just say that I love your videos WLW! I fell in love with them for your great Sopranos videos (which is my favorite show) and then for BCS, another all time favorite. Kim is a guarantee to appear, they released promo pics for the episode and it’s brown haired Kim in some hallway. Also I think your theory is really good! I keep remembering that one line from Mike in 609 in referring to Howard’s death “they can’t close the file”

Really outstanding video!⚖️💵

Love the Twin Peaks merges! Jimmy betrayed Kim's trust by sandbagging her with the Mesa Verde scam. Kim: "I don't trust you. You played me. You made me the sucker." From Kim's perspective and from this moment on I always felt like there could be a Kim vs Jimmy showdown. And when Kim betrayed Jimmy's trust with her lie by omission, and her leaving Jimmy for something SHE did, I felt like there was a potential Jimmy vs Kim showdown from Jimmy's perspective. It's totally possible that they both still feel the need to "win" over the other with how their relationship ended, especially for Jimmy. The winner takes it all.

@jbprescottaz2983

Жыл бұрын

@@lesyeuxsansvisage1157 Ugh. As WLW pointed out it was Kim who pushed, planned, and executed the Howard plan. It was Jimmy that tried multiple times to dissuade her. Get it?

@ToneSherpa

Жыл бұрын

I don't feel like Jimmy is really the vindictive revenge type. I don't think he really hates Kim or anything. He's more likely to try and get her a deal once he's inevitably caught. From his perspective, he's going down either way. So if he can get Kim off the hook, I think he would do that. And from Kim's perspective.. what is the difference if she tells the DA what she and Jimmy did? He's already on the hook for much worse. She just wanted to clear her conscience. It's not really a betrayal.. they are already after him. And the fact she lied about him contacting her seems to be in line with that.

@jbprescottaz2983

Жыл бұрын

@@ToneSherpa Jimmy? NOT vindictive? Not until you cross him; Chuck, Howard, the Kettlemans, Community service lead, Cliff Main, Sandpiper, . . Flipping on Jimmy: Not really a betrayal? You've never been in a serious relationship to make that statement...

I’m gonna miss all this after Tuesday morning.

Another BCS video? You are spoiling us! Just watched your Shining video. Brilliant 👏 👏 👏

@secondcomingofbast9908

Жыл бұрын

Damn, I gotta see that. Thanks.

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

As Mike said "we all make our own choices, and those choices put us on a road". But unlike Mike, Kim didn't manage to forget Howard's death. So, she chooses to assume her crimes, and "face the music". In the same time, Jimmy is doubling down on his crimes. He's hiding from the police, he doesn't face justice and keeps going with his schemes and scams. I think Kim will survive, and Jimmy won't. Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are moral tv-shows, even though a lot of innocent people are getting killed along the way. According to the teaser at the end of episode 12, it seems that a car crash will happen in the last episode... they are on the road of choices.

@daveclark8337

Жыл бұрын

Kim waited until the Statute of Limitations had passed before facing the music.

@ayden839

Жыл бұрын

The car in the teaser is Jimmy's old Esteem that he and Mike left in the desert

Your strategic use of the "yep, yep" scene is hilarious

Great point about mutually assured destruction. Maybe he put Kim‘s name on the ice station zebra shell company without her knowing, like he did with Francesca on the other off-shore account. So if he goes down, she goes down.

@supertramp939

Жыл бұрын

Glad nobody gave you a show to run.

@Midnight_Rider_777

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t think of that! There is always a reason they show us something. I doubt Saul using Francesca’s name without her knowledge was an isolated incident! It makes a lot of sense he could have used Kim’s name without her knowing about it!

@G5rry

Жыл бұрын

Kim would have been questioned by the police if that were true. Kim is not in hiding and they could easily find her.

@Midnight_Rider_777

Жыл бұрын

@@G5rry Good point!

I love that just under half this video is clips.

wonderful twin peaks editing!

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! :)

congrats on 30k, WLW !

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Appreciate it.

I think the answer lies in what Mike and Saul's dialogue in 6x11 (Breaking Bad) Mike mentions "If the cancer doesn't get him, it'll be the cops or a bullet to the head" and it's segue into the Second Story guy "Part of a high crew fencing jewelery up into Canada" the two are sort of meant to segue, it more or less mentions the "ways out" if you will: Death, Prison, Escape. Ultimately we have seen the ways out of the game for Walter (Death) Jesse (Escape) but not yet Saul, so I believe he will go to prison (especially since escape is no longer a way out, depending if they retire the vacuum disappearer with the death of Forrester back in 2019)

Brilliant!!

Thanks for Twin Peaks analogy))

Crazy to realize that 90% of BCS and BB core cast is dead. There's like less than 10 core survivors.

@shure81

Жыл бұрын

Skylar Walt Jr. Marie Francesca Huell Kuby Kim maybe??? Am I missing anyone? But to your point, it's so wild to see how this all came crashing down so hard, like dominoes.

@diceflawless9115

Жыл бұрын

@@shure81 who's kuby? I just remembered jesse and his friends. Saul and Kim are tbd

@1nAtEdAgR8

Жыл бұрын

@@diceflawless9115 Kuby is the character played by Bill Burr. Most notable episode of his is when he and Huell show up to Ted’s house to make him write a check to the IRS

Could you please make an entire video of these clips you have at the end? Of these pivotal moments

Interesting theory! And loved the Kevin Costner joke is great

Yeap! Yeap! Yeap! I love these videos! Keep up the good work!

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. Glad you like them!

The last of the big three (Walt, Jessie, Saul) will have his fate revealed in a few days. I saw another comment that said this and I hope it comes true: One dies One gets away One faces the music We haven't seen the prison/justice ending yet so that would be my preference.

@Rocky_Maher

Жыл бұрын

There's still the possibility that Jesse is the one who faces the music.

@Jak2bossbf3

Жыл бұрын

I think Jesse deserves the ending he got after all the suffering he went through i think they’re done with his story I think Saul will face the music

@Hooplh

Жыл бұрын

@@Jak2bossbf3 My thoughts exactly!

Great ending theories!

When you mentioned Quasimodo I immediately thought of Bobby Bacala "you know, Quasimodo predicted all this" and then you played it at the end, glad to know we are on the same wave length 🤣

Thanks!

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Thank you very much!

I think I don't have to be Quasimodo here, when I say: The last episode will be a blast! Love your Sopranos/Twin Peaks references Rummy!

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. And agreed! I too have high hopes for the finale!

thanks for the twin peaks reference - that ending would at least give hope that in 25 years we would see a sequel :)

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

Then 25 years later, Pinkman can turn into a gigantic mechanical object that resembles a teapot.

That yup yup yup guy is getting it man. He's my hero

kim pulling a con on jimmy in the final episode would be very interesting, something that would get jimmy out of hiding and finally getting caught by the cops.

No video on BCS has been more mind-bending than this one. I’ve learned not to make prediction about BCS, but here are some conjectures-inspired heavily by this video’s suggestion that Kim may be playing everyone in one last scam. POSSIBILITIES: (1) The affidavit portrays her as a minor, unwilling accomplice. (2) She answers Cheryl’s question with, “Because someone needs to stop Jimmy.” (3) The crying jag on the bus was a fake-which the director cut short. Perhaps she feigns hyperventilation and medics are called to make her more sympathetic. (4) Jimmy can’t refute any of this because Kim has “done the right thing” for six years, while Jimmy has been a monster. (5) There are material witnesses-the film crew, the fake PI, in some ways Cliff Mains, to whom Howard explained everything. (6) The security guards will quickly realize they were had by Gene once the APB hits the news (7) Kathy will suspect the cause of her 60 missing high-end items; (8) Buddy and Gene are small potatoes and could get a plea deal. (9) One of Fring’s henchmen could be in jail, read about Skyler’s plea deal, and get a lighter sentence for revealing the whereabouts of Howard and Lalo; (10) Kim could get a suspended sentence and head off to a quiet life on some island with Ice Station Zebra money-in the mode of the endings of “Silence of the Lambs” and “House of Games.” Her six quiet years have been her lying in wait for the right moment. (11) On this last point, in the Gilliverse, actions have consequences, but in the real world, Judeo-Christian theology also has the theodicy problem-sometimes good things happen to bad people.

@RFGraboyes

Жыл бұрын

So, every one of my conjectures was mistaken. Because in writing them, I forgot what I have been telling people all along -- BCS was not a procedural with a plot, it was literature, with a story line. And this ending was so much more powerful than any of the clever twists could ever have been. It was genius--and it took me about an hour after the show for that thought to settle in. ... Thanks for all of your great videos.

I actually don't see any more room for betrayal between the two. Most of the bad stuff that Jimmy did was after the two got separated, it would be impossible to pin that on Kim. Before that the most crime you can pin Jimmy for is being a cartel lawyer. A lot of people seem to forget that it was Lalo that killed Howard, not Jimmy and Kim. The two played a con on Howard but they didn't plot Howard's murder. Even if the two were to go to trial it would be hard to prosecute either of them for the death of Howard. They can also say that they didn't tell the truth about Howard's death due to fear of the cartel. The majority of the crime of Saul Goodman involves rico charges being the Hagen to Heisenberg's Vito Corleone. I don't think what he did to Howard matters that much in comparison. When Cheryl said that she can sue Kim in a civil suit for everything she got, I wonder if that's possible. What laws did Kim break exactly? Cheryl can sue them for defamation but beyond that I don't think theres anything there. Maybe whatever is left of HHM can sue Kim and Jimmy for sabotaging the Sandpiper settlement since they caused HHM to receive less money.

@jakepayne2985

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I see so many people saying- Gene’s gonna swoop in and save Kim from prosecution, watch!! or Kim’s gonna testify against Jimmy, and then turn witness protection!” Hahaha, just insane! They have nothing on Kim other than her affidavit, and she said so herself they likely won’t prosecute. And she has no bearing on what they really want Saul for. She could be a character witness I suppose tho, but I don’t think so.

@supertramp939

Жыл бұрын

Glad someone has such a down-to-earth refreshing view on life, and on a very realistic portrait of life such as this show, predicting such absurd plot twists in the show's finale is so annoying, I ask myself if these people ever really understood the idea behind the writing of BCS.

@jamesduffy7549

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone who actually has brain cells about Howard, there's no way either of them can cop anything close to even manslaughter for that

@jakepayne2985

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesduffy7549 Right. The harassment charges, poisoning, etc would be totally separate. In the consequence system of the show’s world, of course Jimmy and Kim are inadvertently at fault for causing Howard to be killed, so we know they’re guilty. But Howard came over there on his own, they were even pleading him to leave, and Lalo did what he did. Not even a manslaughter charge, correct. Could they spin a felony harassment leading to bodily injury/death type thing I wonder?

@jamesduffy7549

Жыл бұрын

@@jakepayne2985 it's a defamation case at most, with some petty theft and maybe poisoning but without a toxicology report thats unlikely. Seeing as Howard died the same day, it's hard to even make a case for awarding any damages which is usually the outcome of a defamation case. It's like Kim says the DA may not even prosecute, and she's allowed to travel back to Florida without any kind of threat of court. Cheryl can try and take her to civil court, but Kim has nothing Cheryl can even take if she wins that case (she didn't take the sandpiper money, probably rents that mid range house, and gets an average income) and Jimmy has such a long rap sheet against him that a defamation case is a footnote on what they'd want to get him on trial for if they caught him. We literally see it on Kim's face when Cheryl's like I could take you to civil court and you lose everything (I'm paraphrasing) and Kim's face is just saying "lose fucking what?"

Lmfaoo I just got off work and that ending referencing Sopranos and Twin Peaks and it’s all a dream ending with Kevin Costner had me crying of laughter on the bus and everyone was staring at me and I kept laughing with no fucks given.

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

LOL! Thanks for sharing that.

Don't think it's too complicated...Kim has confessed all, she's not going to lie for herself anymore, and she's not going to hide Jimmy's role in it either. But she's not going to directly turn him in because she doesn't know where he is, so if she tells them they've talked recently, they'll subpoena for phone records and figure out where he called from and begin a search for him. Kim's guilt for dragging him into the Howard scheme is still there, so she's giving Jimmy that much of a "head start" but if he does get caught, she's not going to shield him anymore.

@Wow Lynch Wow! -- I have a question for you and anyone else who would like to comment: Do you think there's any significance to the way Chuck killed himself? By that, I don't mean the *method* (by fire). I mean the fact that he didn't simply drop the lantern on the floor directly. Instead, he repeatedly kicked the table the lantern was on until it finally fell on the floor. Do you think he was trying to sort of distance himself from the idea that he was taking his own life? I hope I'm being clear! Thanks in advance to anyone who responds to my question. It's been bugging me ever since I saw that episode, and I haven't seen or heard anyone mention it.

There are 3 personas in one: Jimmy, Saul, and Gene. So far Jimmy is buried under Saul and Saul has been concealed by Gene, who is a broken shell. This episode was a reckoning for all three. Saul is already a wanted man. Jimmy is now being held accountable for Howard, and Gene has been made by Marion. By the end Jimmy will be all that’s left.

When Gene storms out of the home and the door closes with no music going suddenly to a dark screen gave me serious chills

I don't know exactly why, but I don't feel sorry for Kim. It might be that she went along or conducted scam after scam and then would wash her hands of it as quickly as possible. She bottled up what happened to Howard for six years, made a written confession (instead of verbally saying what she did), and then had a breakdown on the bus and I know that's a lot to go through but acting like her having to live a mundane life like all of us is punishment isn't the same as her lecturing people to "put on their big boy pants" and go to prison.

@lillithsternin7428

Жыл бұрын

And she came up with the scam on Howard. Right? I'm kinda sad they made her so Skyler White like...the poor woman married to a big bad person and she has alot of guilt. I wish they had made her ride or die bad bad bad. Instead of all this guilt and moroseness.

@nont18411

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. She had it way better than anyone of us.

@radicalxg8282

Жыл бұрын

There's is nothing to feel sorry for her, but one things is true she's trying to come clean and setting things straight for what she did to Howard regardless of the consequences, while Jimmy absolutely learned nothing and it's going into deeper shit because he cannot let go

@shure81

Жыл бұрын

If you think about it, Kim MADE Jimmy go along with the scams. Jimmy showed her how to score a few bucks ripping off rich douchebags, but she took it to a new level. Then she just simply ran away when the heat got too hot, and is now blabbing about it to everyone. Kim is definitely the most interesting character in the BB Universe and Rhea is a phenomenal actor!

@daveclark8337

Жыл бұрын

The Statute of Limitations is 6 years in New Mexico, so Kim was giving good advice. Even the Feds are 6 years for tax offenses. Instead he went and committed new crimes in Omaha.

Kim did a lot of evil things to Jimmy and others, as is so extensively mentioned in the video. The fact she repented isn’t enough from a justice perspective. She shouldn’t get away so easily with a desperate crying. She was the one pulling the wires on Jimmy. She was at the origin of him turning full Saul Goodman. She was a truly Corleone at heart.

@fredstriker2042

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!! Mirrors real life prejudice against men. Most in America will never know that men routinely receive much larger sentences for like crimes than women. Top to bottom women are treated far better than men and yet the narrative that is spun by our trusting corporate controlled "media" is the exact opposite

The one thing I didn't like about 'Waterworks' was that they showed the Kim/Jesse scene as Kim's last scene of that episode. The scene with her breaking down crying on the bus should have been her last scene, and not only should it have been her last scene in the episode, it should have been her final scene in the series because it would have been the perfect, most cathartic ending for her. Just as Gus was given the perfect final scene for his character of him leaving the bar and showing us that he knew he could never have a normal happy life, Kim finally letting out all of the pain she tried to bury away showed us that she learned what she had to do in order to move forward with her life.

@holybanana8182

Жыл бұрын

id say the same for mike tbh

@RicardoAGuitar

Жыл бұрын

It was her last scene. It wasn't presented last, but in the timeline, her most recent appearance was Kim sobbing on the bus. Her cigarette with Jesse happened years before

@coorsjazz5502

Жыл бұрын

@@RicardoAGuitar I know that. I'm not talking about the linear timeline, I'm talking about where it was placed in the show.

I don’t think Jimmy or Saul would preemptively set up Kim for ruin, ever. Do you think Gene will just try to run/disappear after Marion’s, or frantically try to get to Kim in FL or ABQ?

@ZachAsaD

Жыл бұрын

I reckon he will be caught

@jamesduffy7549

Жыл бұрын

I think he'll try to run but have a big crisis of self over why he's running, not just literally from the police right now, but why he's been running for years from all the things he's been through- Marco, Chuck, Howard, Kim all of it. He'll finally kill Saul for good and turn himself in. It's doubtful but I'd love him to somehow see Kim before he does, and then he tells her to call the cops on him

'Breaking Bad's finale is hailed as one of the greatest final episodes in television history largely because it's technically a happy ending. Even though Walt died he accomplished his goal of making sure his family would be provided for, Jesse got away, and Lydia, Jack, and his entire gang got killed. I think Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould know the importance of not ending things on a depressing note and in my opinion, Gene successfully escaping would be the most depressing outcome imaginable, even more so than death, as he would be stuck in this purgatory-like existence of always having to look over his shoulder and constantly having to throw himself into crime in order to mask his pain. He also is forced to live well below his means in order to not attract attention to himself which further adds to his misery. Him being killed would actually be liberating, just as it was for Walt. The other possibility of a happy ending (happy being a relative term of course) would be for him to turn himself in, showing he's finally willing to try to deal with his problems. I just have a gut feeling the writers will make sure Jimmy will be looked upon in a good light when all is said and done.

@fabrizioarvat1141

Жыл бұрын

Putting jimmy in a good light is easy enough to get an acceptable ending, because this series overshadowed Breaking Bad's Saul Goodman enough. Gould has developed his own version of Saul that does not completely coincide with the one depicted in the original series and in some ways betrays him. The series has failed to fully develop the devolving path that leads Jimmy to become Saul. It is no coincidence that this metamorphosis occurs with a time jump that hides this narrative failure. Breaking Bad's Saul Goodman is much harder to save than BCS's Jimmy, in fact everyone continues to be surprised by Gene Takovic's moral regress, because they don't remember too well what character Saul was in the original series.

@Sorcerers_Apprentice_11

Жыл бұрын

@@fabrizioarvat1141 lighten up bro, it’s a respectable concern, but you’re watching one of the greatest shows of our time. Try to enjoy it.

@yb32

Жыл бұрын

Even though Walt died before the cops could catch him, he also ruined his family's life and they will only be able to get a small portion of the money he earned. I wouldn't exactly call it a happy ending. Jesse, being a much better person than him, was rewarded with a better ending (I guess we can say that there is some justice in the BrBa universe after all). I think the best ending for Jimmy would be for him to go to jail and actually deal with his pain for once, so he can learn from it and change. I don't think he deserves to die as much as Walter did.

@mappingshaman5280

Жыл бұрын

If gene gets away, he would just repeat the cycle.

@RicardoAGuitar

Жыл бұрын

@@Sorcerers_Apprentice_11 "Don't discuss things bro"

I love how the time 3:17 says LIE on the reflection it would have been perfect if it was also on the videos time

I know that it would never happen, but the Bob Newhart "It was all a dream", served straight-up with a Kevin Costner chaser would be awesome! I hope that AMC takes this cue from WLW and makes an extra for the website! It would be TIGHT, TIGHT TIGHT!

I need to ask... is the quasimodo thing an intentional reference to the sopranos?

At this point, we all have a degree in Mental Gymnastics, in order to even contemplate the ending of this fantastic series...I, for one, have given up with the speculating, and will watch the finale while drinking my Gatorade and chewing on some chicken!

there was the teaser of kim reading a legal oath in Albuquerque but it was never played on screen so my guess is that kim after seeing the young defense attorney in 612 she gets the drive to become a lawyer again and represents gene/saul after he was reported by marylin and that is what was being teased months ago

@thegent8916

Жыл бұрын

In what world does that theory make any sense? That would be, at best, a conflict of interest. Kim's complicit in the murder of Howard. This theory is so far fetched, and shortsighted, that it's a wonder it's even being mentioned.

@emosewasikcin

Жыл бұрын

@@thegent8916 kid named In what world does that theory make any sense? That would be, at best, a conflict of interest. Kim's complicit in the murder of Howard. This theory is so far fetched, and shortsighted, that it's a wonder it's even being mentioned.

Yyyupp! Ernesto and the Los Pollos manager ought to have an ending scene as well... Yyyupp!

Do you also run the KZread channel Rummy's Corner?

you ok Wow? Seemed a little low energy today compared to usual. Sending my best!

The last five minutes of that review was brilliant!! A Lynchian tie-in with Better Call Saul. How's Kimmy??? How's Kimmy?? Loved it. Now a need a damn fine cup of coffee.

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

I need a damn fine cup of coffee, too.

Jimmy did to Kim what chuck did to him when he said “have a nice life” same as chuck saying “you never mattered all that much to me” 😬

@teribradshaw-milling3164

Жыл бұрын

Difference Chuck never seemed to appreciate, or love Jimmy, as much as Jimmy loved and looked up to him. So Chuck said those words out of Spite. Jimmy adored Kim, so his "have a good life" was a defence mechanism to cover up his hurt, and pain.

Jimmy and Kimmy got divorced. But Jimmy got custody of Francesca.

No. Kim is still loyal to Jimmy. This is all it is. She wasn’t willing to hurt him.

I think her lying about Jimmy was covering her own azz again. She spoke with him and she knows he's wanted, yet she didn't come forward. There's an argument to be made that she might not be obligated to, but the phone call preceded the events of her affidavit and return to ABQ DAs office.

This take is TIGHT TIGHT, TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT. Nice theory on the mutually assured destruction. I think this would be a satisfying resolution wrapped up in a climactic episode that concludes the BB universe. "In the end, you're going to hurt everyone around you. You can't help it. So stop apologizing and accept it." Kim pushed him away and he's going to make her regret it. I LOVE this idea!! One final choice for Jimmy and Kim together: a bad choice road, or a good one? Even better, a one final choice that effectively helps or hurts the person that they both love, but who has also ruined their life or who has brought out the worst in them.... SPICY!

I think that this story is so tragic - it reminds me of the ending of Anna Karenina, when the two lovers have broken up, Anna dies, and Vronsky volunteers for a suicide mission by raising a regiment. I don't know who will die in this, either Kim or James, but justice will be done, though the heavens fall.

Maybe her motive is redemption, maybe her motive is CYA. Maybe she figures she can Linda-Kasabian her way out of being prosecuted.

If you add up all the plot points that fans would like to see resolved in the finale, that last episode better be 3+ hours long.

lmao that twin peaks reference

Seeing their relationship end with pain would be heartbreaking but deserved. But it a perfect scenario for Kim to shoot Jimmy dead. He begs her for help, only for her to reveal she knows what he did. That he plans to take her down with him, fair or not. That hurt might be what sends her over the edge. Incredibly dark. Maybe too dark.

@summerstevens2547

Жыл бұрын

Their relationship is over. Nothing to end. She left him. Divorced him. Never looked back. Jimmy called her not the other way around. Being glad someone isn't dead is not the same thing as wanting to be with them. Their relationship ended in the Fun & Games episode.

@kiratherenegade1561

Жыл бұрын

@@summerstevens2547 Nope. Kim called first asking about him. Pay attention. And their relationship doesn't just mean their romance, it refers to their connection in general.

Howard Cosell as a mobster is the vocal delivery we all need

You were. I could NOT BELIEVE you had that interpretation! Never ever ever have l gave you a thumbs down. Your Sopranos videos all those views are 85 percent me. I was shocked. I almost didn't click on this one.

I'm calling it now. Kim's final con will be a sting operation.

Ah. Kim gets pinched after turning in confession, Jimmy turns self in to save her.

ROFL on the agent Cooper reference!

Kim, 'Couldn't you just.. Jim, no, I can't..'

Ya know I gotta wonder at what point did Kim figure out that it was Gus Frings house she went to in 6x08? It’s implied not even Jimmy knew his identity until Walt and Jesse started working for him in season 3 of BB. Even if Kim saw all the news reports about the Heisenberg stuff going down how would she make the connection that it was Fring she was supposed to kill?

Hey, this has nothing to do with anything but I'm just so curious about it -- are you from Philly by any chance?

@WowLynchWow

Жыл бұрын

NJ/NYC. But I did attend college in eastern PA about an hour or so outside of Philly.

@snicky58

Жыл бұрын

@@WowLynchWow Thanks for replying -- I'm fascinated by accents and I was way off on that guess. Gotta confess that it was based strictly on the word "water." I should've known better!

I can't wait for the Lyle and Ernie spinoff series !!

I think her confesion will make the Jimmy part of him reborn and do the right thing. A teaser of that is the finding of the steem (that represents Jimmy) because of the investigation following her statement. In that way, May be not her intención, but her accions save his soul

9:56 YEP! YEP! YEP! YEEEAP!

I think if you think Kim omitted Jimmy's being alive as an attempt to sabotage him, you don't really understand Kim at all. She loves Jimmy but when Howard got killed as a result of their shenanigans she had a huge wakeup call. She started listening to her conscience. She couldn't go and tell all then because Mike and Gus were around. But then Saul challenges her on the phone and that was the boost she needed to come clean. Coming clean was for her own soul. She was giving Jimmy some room to have his own redemption if he ever chose to. Who knows how it all will end. I like the thought of Kim starting a new life using her skills to help people pro bono and Slipping Jimmy helping people in prison while he does some time and finds his heart again. That's probably too optimistic.

His last “con” will be getting her out of trouble by turning himself in.

I’ve now been thinking a lot about the scene in Breaking Bad when one guy from Lidia’s list tried to cut a deal, where he would squeal in exchange for walking, since his money was cut off. Hank offered him a piss poor deal, since they had 11 people total who knew what he did. Now I’m wondering if Saul will be able to keep out of prison, in exchange for being the only person alive knowing what he knows, and also has Bill Oakley represent him.

@Rocky_Maher

Жыл бұрын

Saul's more likely to cut a deal with the Feds and blame it all on Oakley than hire him for his defense.

Gene was never more than a shell, whatever was left of him died or was killed by Saul in that phone booth after Kim hung up. Saul was on his way to strangling an old lady when her “I trusted you” line finally woke up Jimmy, then he fled. _Saul Gone_ will be about Jimmy overcoming Saul, then doing the right thing turning himself in, so Kim can move on. Just like Walt freeing Jesse, Jimmy & Kim can share one last brief moment, then go their separate ways for good.

Jimmy would NEVER EVER EVER rat Kim out. Kim is the love of his life & he would DO ANYTHING in the world for her.

@NankerPhelge65

Жыл бұрын

Like turn himself in ?

@raydavison4288

Жыл бұрын

@@NankerPhelge65: That was a rhetorical "anything". 😉

@summerstevens2547

Жыл бұрын

Too bad she doesn't feel the same way

Where did the whole "I'm no Quasimodo" thing start?

What I would like to see is Jimmy and Kim floating in the pool somewhere in South America getting ready to run another scam on somebody at the bar however I keep thinking about the way Breaking Bad ended with Walt lying on the floor and the Badfinger song “baby blue“ playing with the line that summed up the entire arc of the scales of justice tipping towards “guess I got what I deserved”