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Bethesda has quickly fallen out of favor for me. Well, I still haven't forgotten Fallout 76, I don't care if it's "good now", it was still pure shit when it released.

@sagenebula7120

Ай бұрын

If its any consolation its better than fallout 4 now imo

@jamesdykes517

Ай бұрын

Answer with your wallet. They're the worst and have been for awhile.

@NN-dl1gh

Ай бұрын

​@@sagenebula7120 nah man they are totally different one is a mp one is a single player like wtf you smoking

@NN-dl1gh

Ай бұрын

This guys totally right bethesda has been screwing off for years and have totally sucked game quality shot down

@lenowoo

Ай бұрын

It's good now?

There is no line a company won’t cross. Either we stop them or they push further. There is no middle ground in this case.

@LazyLifeIFreak

Ай бұрын

Bethesda is the French generals at the battle of Verdun, repeating the same tactics and stratagems in a conflict that is continuesely evolvoing and improving beyond Bethesda understanding.

@PoisonRemedy89

Ай бұрын

I stopped buying their games for a long time now, and AAA in fact.

@qwizzler

Ай бұрын

Fedpost extreme

@Sas-ym4gg

Ай бұрын

To war!!!!

@MorfsPrower

Ай бұрын

Skyrim day one was my last straw. Took me a year to realize I was rugpulled out of a true RPG, and the game became boring compared to prior titles. Ever since I have created The List ™️ which is my boycott of virtually every single AAA publisher and all their subsidiaries. We deserve new studios which innovate and push the boundaries of limitation, not these safety sniffers that prioritize short-term safe monetization and milking people with no self control.

This is a canary in the coal mine as to what they will be doing with monetization. Even if they make the game good now, i won't be bothering with it.

@Jeez001

Ай бұрын

Data mining reveals they have plans for more paid quests 😂

@kayvee256

Ай бұрын

I tried so hard to like Starfield. At aroudn 90 hours in I hit a busy fortnight - no time to game. When I came back I just... Ugh. I couldn't be bothered. So many other good games to play. I could forgive Starfield a lot but there's just this fun tax built into Starfield in the movement system and the hand-in-quests-and-sell-loot steps in the game loop. I just couldn't bring myself to start the loop going again.

@comyuse9103

Ай бұрын

the game literally can't be good and still be the same game, imo. but even if it is eventually worth _playing_ i won't be _paying._

@Narangarath

Ай бұрын

I was really sceptical about it after the disaster that FO76 turned out to be and it's starting to look like I really dodged a bullet by figuring I'd wait to see how it would turn out. Bethesda being predictably Bethesda.

@ilari90

Ай бұрын

@@Narangarath Same, I was really hyped though, glad I didn't touch this pile of poo poo.

Game specific currency should be illegal, making people pay £10 for a £7 thing that's really worth £2 is just so damn wrong.

@danielschulz5494

Ай бұрын

They got u. They set an anker, now u are ok with 2 $

@Voltaic_Fire

Ай бұрын

@@danielschulz5494 I didn't say I'd pay £2, I've never bought an MTX and I ain't going to start now.

@vlatepes1901

Ай бұрын

Hmm so when the economy is raising prices etc you think games are going to stay the same price? Gamers seem to think games should be free or dirt cheap.

@papapawpaw8877

Ай бұрын

​@@vlatepes1901Ahhaahahah classic dumb argument. We just think if we are paying 60 bucks or I'm sorry now 70+ for games they should come you know... As completed games. Not half baked half functioning programs with a "road map" to make it not even good just decent. Who asked for these road maps? Who benefits from crap made games with micro transactions? It sure as heck isn't the players. If your perfectly happy with games coming out now and would rather play a game like starfield over something like baldurs gate 3... Well your welcome to your choice. I however will be enjoying a masterfully made 100+ hour game for a single playthrough.

@DamienCloud

Ай бұрын

@@vlatepes1901 How about you eat said dirt instead of defending corporations charging litteral days of work for the average person for digital cosmetics (that can't exit the ecosystem or be sold) that they can litteraly copy and paste infinitely. Inflation didn't cause microtransactions to become macrotransactions, just greed.

It could be a dollar and I'd still be peeved. Selling a fucking quest in an already full priced single player game, is beyond dystopian. And suck it with that "Just get it one gamepass" bs. Some of us like owning things.

@Paradox-es3bl

Ай бұрын

I agree with you if it's a simple quest. Witcher 3 game at least 1 actual quest with actual depth for free. But obviously a handful of quests and perhaps a new map? Or even technically 1 MAIN quest, like Heart Of Stone for Witcher 3? I think I paid ~$15 for that and won't complain. Slightly depends on the context, imo. (Although, that also included some more Gwent and some side quests. It was HOURS of new content. Although, honestly, it was probably nearly $2/hour... which is not the rule set by Spoole! $1/1 hour! More hours is fine. $1/5 hours? Sure! But $5/1 hour? F you! lol)

@ocde5395

Ай бұрын

how much do you want to bet its a fetch quest

@vlatepes1901

Ай бұрын

So everything is supposed to be free? So how do you make money if you work for free hmm? You people seem to think gaming companies get paid 24-7 when they only make money when people continue to buy their products.

@DamienCloud

Ай бұрын

@@vlatepes1901 Microsoft, that owns bethesda, is litteraly the richest/2nd richest company on earth. Starfield is litteraly an unfinished unpolished copy and pasted planets game, it is unnaceptable to charge for more content when the game you sold at a premium price is lacking content. Are you paid to defend them on every comment ?

@sofaking1627

Ай бұрын

@@vlatepes1901 Are you restarted or do you just play one online?

This is a slippery slope. That the quest for the Vulture is started for free in the recent update, so players have invested time and emotional buy-in for the quest, before being told that to complete the quest and the faction that is newly integrated into the game, they are now expected to pay for it. If game studios keep burning the fans they'll have no fans, no buy-in, no future. How would you describe a person that gives a child a present in a nice box, gift wrapped and with a card that says if like it they can have more; then the child opens the box to find it's empty except a nice pic and a note that says "pay me $10 to get your present"?

@gjshomeofsilliness9391

Ай бұрын

The slippery slope started with Horse Armor long ago and too many people bought it. This can't happen again!

@Paradox-es3bl

Ай бұрын

I now think I'll give my sister her first ever birthday present from me but charge her $10 to actually get it. Thanks lmao

@dogsbecute

Ай бұрын

@@gjshomeofsilliness9391 i was like idk, 14, when that shit happened, and my baby brain, even back then, knew how shit of an idea that was and what sort of precedent it was going to set. Then we got season passes which actually meant getting all the planned content for the year, back when studios had actual track records so you knew you would get quality. now....now i dont recognize my favorite industry...

@JetBalrog

Ай бұрын

Wait, you're telling me it's fucking *worse* than I thought it was? They actually bait you in by getting you invested with a teaser and THEN spring the purchase on you, so you're stuck with an incomplete quest unless you fork over money??? Wow. That's... WOW. That's AUDACIOUS. That is completely miserable, especially since you get invested in the quest, you find out you have to spend money, and then if you decide to do so, you then get to the store, try to buy it, and find out you can't, because you have to spend MORE than they're charging for it just to actually be able to buy it. That is HEINOUS. I hate that with a passion. I will NEVER pay for this BS.

@AlmarWinfield

Ай бұрын

i hope these companies lose fans to keep buying their games. That's the only way this will stop. People need to stop playing their games and boycott the companies. Control your emotions, stop playing games from companies who manipulate you.

if a game needs mods to be fun let alone be playable it is NOT A FINISHED GAME😞

@AbsolutTalent1

Ай бұрын

I tried giving Fallout New Vegas another shot. After an hour and a half of downloading, installing, and configuring "necessary and recommended" things...... I played for 3 hours and deleted it. Put such a sour taste in my mouth from the get go

@chowder130

Ай бұрын

@@AbsolutTalent1 Everyone loves New Vegas because of the superb writing, but the actual gameplay has always been terminally bland. Best way I found to experience it was using basically no mods except one that makes everyone have low health so guns actually feel like guns. Combat was no longer a slog and I got to experience the rest of the unpolished diamond.

@Paradox-es3bl

Ай бұрын

A game can be finished and not fun. I'd agree if it was legitimately unplayable (Or crashed 40+ times in like the 12 hours I played like Cyberpunk 2077 did at launch) then yeah, not a finished game. 2 different things there, though, imo. I personally didn't have any fun trying to play Sekiro... my reaction time in MIDDLE SCHOOL was already 3x slower than average... and after having doubled in age? It only got worse. So those extra tight windows for parrying? Nah. F that. Not fun. Bloodborne and DS3 were fine. Forgiving enough windows. Would Sekiro even remotely count as unfinished just because it's not fun? No. Especially since enjoyment is subjective. Mostly. I mean, maybe nobody would enjoy that Fast & Furious game or something... but you know what I mean lol.

@arthurbunce1124

Ай бұрын

Agreed. If starfield felt full of content and complete, id be a lil more ok with paying for more content. But bounty hunting is something that should have been in the base game. I shouldn’t have to pay more money just to make the game actually fun… not to mention the fact they put jail cell ship modules in the base game and gave us no way to use them, even after the new update. Seems like something they wanted to do, decided not to, then came back and decided to charge us for it.

@matthewdougherty1159

Ай бұрын

@@Paradox-es3bl 🤔Yeah Sekiro is a ok but hard game but it is at least done and at least did not need a day 1 patch to play from what i remember and i played Tenchu back in the day so i knew what kind of game Sekiro would be lol. my gripe is a lot of games are feeling unfinished with day one dlc/patches that in some cases changes the game from what was advertised, fallout 76 comes to mind and i could bring up other games but that is like beating a dead horse lol. and my Comment is mostly aimed at Bethesda games

Paid quests are much worse because only fools are buying weapon skins and thus only fools are affected by it. But locking actual game content behind micro? That's reason to kick in some doors right there.

@YourBlackLocal

Ай бұрын

??? You're just saying nonsense. It's a modded quest, not actual game content.

@vlatepes1901

Ай бұрын

And people wonder why they don't own businesses nor make their own fucking games! Sorry but nothing is fucking free!

@papapawpaw8877

Ай бұрын

​@@vlatepes1901except they were? Remember when games came on CDs? Remember unlockable cosmetics in games? Remember when a cosmetic was an achievement and not a microtransaction? Or do you just want to belittle people?

@fairyboy444

Ай бұрын

@@YourBlackLocalit’s in the game, no? then it’s actual game content.

@neiladamson5749

Ай бұрын

Hahaha. Back in the day you got 10 levels of sonic and thay was AAA gaming. There's more data in a texture for a weapon in Starfield then Sonic 1 in its entirety. People forget how lucky we are in this day and age How many games give you 1000s of free bits of content on the home screen at the click of a button?

Stop giving AAA studios your money. Support the indie devs that continue to deliver the experiences you remember from these once prestigious companies. Screw paid mods, screw Bethesda and the horse armor they rode in with.

@LadyBits2023

Ай бұрын

... Unfortunately, for the perpetual reeeeeeing And complaining they do, Gamers have almost no self-control when it comes to these things and continue to just lap up this slop at these companies keep shoveling out and handing them their money again and again and again early access is a fantastic example of this. they get burned again and again and again and keep putting their hand on the hot stove

@G-Mastah-Fash

Ай бұрын

Indie games are just as bad.

@agentmith

Ай бұрын

@@G-Mastah-Fash obviously some are, yes, but not as a matter of course like large studio games now. The bad indie games are usually pretty obvious with what their intentions are, which is why I said to support the ones that basically picked up where the AAA studios left off.

microtransactions for single player games are just plain stupid

@ArcAngle1117

Ай бұрын

I'm guessing Game pass fucked them over harder than they were expecting.

@theforgeryttv6449

Ай бұрын

It'll get worse. Companies want to put in ads for a game you PAID for, tipping, live service to ensure you have to pay for the next game when the servers shut down, and paid monthly memberships.

@SubiKinubi

Ай бұрын

@@ArcAngle1117game pass has nothing to do with it, it’s the entire industry

@adamtajhassam9188

Ай бұрын

you know whats more incouraging then paying 4 a quest? I QUIT.

For fucks sake, I've been saying this since fucking Skyrim VOTE WITH YOUR FUCKING WALLETS. PLEASE.

@ryanjrblair3526

Ай бұрын

Exactly I haven't bought a Bethesda game since skyrim and don't plan to until we see actual changes

@ryanjrblair3526

Ай бұрын

They also broke skyrim a few month ago with the creation club update broke all my mods hours of sorting load orders and lost all my game saves

@johnbrockenbrough4520

Ай бұрын

You are smarter than these children

What a surprise, Bethesda getting lambasted for monetizing a game more while a buncha shiz still isn't fixed.

I've gone from rooting for them to being disappointed by them, to being baffled by them, to being disgusted by them. 💔

I feel like a lot of the BS with creations in Fallout 4 and Skyrim were mostly skimmed over cause yeah they are expensive for what you are getting but those games already had established communities of players and alternative mods that you could get for free alongside also already having all their DLC released. The price for the Starfield quest is basically the same as what Bethesda have gotten away with in the past, but it is much more glaring because Starfield has some major fundamental problems that haven't been fixed by either Bethesda or modders and is struggling to find its footing and audience.

@hafirenggayuda

Ай бұрын

FO4 and Skyrim are already "full" in their base game, despite the shortcomings. Starfield was barely made it

STOP buying their trash almost everyone hates all these live action always online login p2w pay for content or early access etc. BUT they still buy all their trash STOP buying their trash

@Battledongus

Ай бұрын

Didn't buy FO76, didn't buy this. TES6 will have to be a fucking masterpiece for me to even consider buying it.

@johnbrockenbrough4520

Ай бұрын

Remember we given a choice…

The dude that said 3$ for a quest is somewhat okay pissed me off. No quests should be paywalled. Period. Otherwise you can see the game with 135 DLC quests in the future. Big DLC are not just about quests. To be quality content (worth your money) they need to add a lot to the game. New locations, items, classes(maybe) whatever. New gameplay of sorts. Paid quests are a no go no matter the cost.

@Paradox-es3bl

Ай бұрын

Depends on the context big time, imo. Witcher 3 Heart Of Stone is one main quests, a couple side quests/contracts iirc, and some Gwent stuff. Probably a single-digit number of hours of content unless maybe you try to 100% explore it, then barely double digits... $15 when it came out, I believe. Totally worth it, though. It's way less about number of quests and way more about the depth, the hours of content added. Honestly, if you add at least a double digit number of hours of content, I think that's basically ALWAYS worth SOME money. How much is debatable... depends how good the content it, too... and less than 10 hours of new content? It better be damn good if you're gonna try to charge for it. Witcher 3 added a FREE quest that might've been ~3 hours if you stretched it a little and took your time, and probably ~1-2 on average... and it was decent. I would've paid $1 for that, tbh. But I'm so much happier that I didn't have to.

@TheMrDewil

Ай бұрын

Yeah, 135 DLC Paradox style.

@om58499

Ай бұрын

@@Paradox-es3blget out here shill

@UtherTG

Ай бұрын

@@Paradox-es3bl ​ Hearts of Stone added a lot of stuff. New enemies, harder challenges, new gear, new storyline, decent chunk of new characters, new romance line, I can go on. You can't really compare it to the idea of paywalled quest. It's not just bounty hunting mission and couple of cosmetics. So in comparison it's apples and oranges. It's not purely about how many hours DLC adds.

@zeening

Ай бұрын

stellaris and shit already do that lol and total war warhammer, it's like 400-600$ to be able to play mortal empire mode in 3 because you need to own EVERY SINGLE DLC from 1 and 2

And when we said horse armor sets a bad precedent, they laughed at us

The best case scenario I can see for Starfield is a modding community that looks somewhat healthy from the outside, but is actually pretty dead once you dig a bit deeper, like Fallout 4. All the biggest problems run so deep there is no modding them out. You can't fix the narrative, you can't fix the lore and world building, you can't fix the fish bowl planets, you can't fix the constant loading screens.

@Lewisking50

Ай бұрын

I'm curious as to why you think FO4 modding is "dead" underneath the surface, cuz it seems pretty active throughout all layers to me...

@agentmith

Ай бұрын

Yep. Starfield is broken by design, mods and expansions can’t fix it. There are numerous deep dive videos that are 2-10 hours long that go over these problems in excruciating detail.

@KyleHerbert13

Ай бұрын

@@Lewisking50 Nah, go look at skyrim or new vegas. The mods are not only bigger and better, but there are also far more. Creation club has honestly hurt the modding community more than it's helped modders make money.

@chrisj320ac3

Ай бұрын

Get all your opinions from KZread?

@om58499

Ай бұрын

“Dead” that thing have more mod than fallout nv and fallout 3 look at nexus mod it the 3rd most mod game on that site right below Skyrim and Skyrim special edition

You do realise that event horizon has a cult following and is considered one of the best scfi horrors of all time.

@DarkZodiacZZ

Ай бұрын

If anyone here is into 40k but haven't seen the movie...you are missing out.

@bushmonster1702

Ай бұрын

Saw it at cinema. Creepy film and pretty damn good.

@Suzuki_Hiakura

Ай бұрын

@@DarkZodiacZZ which movie? There are about half a dozen last I checked, with only two seemingly good (Helsreach and Ultramarines).

@aerfwefd7334

Ай бұрын

@@Suzuki_Hiakura He's talking about Event Horizon. Try to keep up.

@DarkZodiacZZ

Ай бұрын

@@Suzuki_Hiakura Imagine is a horror movie inspired by some aspects of 40k. That way we don't spoil the fun.

why can't companies just make good games and skip the evil get rich quick schemes?

@sagenebula7120

Ай бұрын

Because it doesn’t make money now, they dont care about later down the line

@Essex121514

Ай бұрын

Because the people running the companies do you do it to make great games. They do it to get rich quick.

@juliegahret5236

Ай бұрын

Capitalism makes this possible

@DrakkarCalethiel

Ай бұрын

Disagree, BG3 for example was a massive hit.​@@sagenebula7120

@BritBox777

Ай бұрын

Because companies that USED to make games were taken over by corporate execs and now just launder money. The actual "game companies" now are in the AA and indie space.

This really is horse armour all over again.

Maybe next patch they can charge for steps, too. "Oh, you paid $7 for that shiny new quest? Great! But you're 125 steps away from the quest starter, and you're all outta step credits. But no worries, you can recharge for just $1... ... ...per step. And don't forget to buy your loot access pass so you can, you know, collect the rewards from the quest you bought!" 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

@videowatcher551

Ай бұрын

Wasn't there a dev that wanted to make players pay money to reload their gun in an FPS game?

@olencone4005

Ай бұрын

@@videowatcher551 Yep, that was in Battlefield -- tho EA tried to brush it off as just a "theoretical" idea for "emergency use" or something instead an actual serious one.

@zeening

Ай бұрын

sounds like LOTRO... "don't wanna waste 15 minutes walking from 1 quest giver to the next with extreme amounts of backtracking for time wasting sake? BUY SOME LOTRO POINTS AND TELEPORT DIRECTLY TO THE QUEST PERSON/AREA!"

@Suzuki_Hiakura

Ай бұрын

counter offer: $0.50 cents for 50 steps and a free subscription that renews every 200 steps at the low cost of $2.50. Want to cancel your subscription? Just send a certified letter in, hand written in cursive, naturally, and we will cancel it in 3-5 business weeks o7

I would go give them a negative Steam review, but my review has been negative since release. But this entire update is honestly insulting.

It wouldn't surprise me if they ship TESVI without the Dark Brotherhood or Fighters Guild, then charge extra for it with the creation club

@DrakkarCalethiel

Ай бұрын

You can count on that one. The game will be a pure bugridden and MTX packed pile of dogcrap.

@Numinon

Ай бұрын

Friend of mine argued that they can't afford making TES6 trash because it's their most popular and recognizable IP, and it would probably be a killing blow. But I argue corporate greed is so blind and extreme that it won't matter. The only way for Bethesda to learn anything at all is if they've hit rock bottom, if at all, and right now they're still well afloat.

@Queinty

Ай бұрын

This. Absolutely. That is how they're gonna do it. They think they're fine tuning this awesome buisiness model that everyone loves, but ES6 will be the final nail in Todd's fucking ridiculous hairdo.

I paid £7.99 each for Witcher 3 'Blood and Wine' and 'Hearts of Stone' today that's $10 each. Even old school dlc's for games were better value than $7 for a quest and come cosmetics.

I envy those who enjoy starfield. I wish my standards could be that low.

@j.d.4697

Ай бұрын

I mean just look at TV and music.

@jimster1111

Ай бұрын

@@j.d.4697 the thing about music is theres enough good music on youtube that we dont really have to pay attention to mainstream music. same with games theres enough indie hits that we can completely ignore the AAA game industry. we dont have that luxury with TV and movies.

@i_grok_u2902

Ай бұрын

nice

@chrisj320ac3

Ай бұрын

Your condescension isn't a good look. And I hope you are able to learn that one day.

@monody

Ай бұрын

Plenty of people in the same boat with this one. Part of why this update has only caused steam stats to reach a whopping 10k peak, still less than half of Skyrim or 1/4 of Fallout 4. Silent majority just ain't into the sub-standard single-player live service shenanigans.

$7 for a Quest is a damn joke. $10 for ONE Hab + 22 decorations is also a joke. I would say Bethesda should be ashamed of themselves but I don't think any of these mega Corps have any shame left.

Maybe just maybe if they even addressed initial problems with the game, but they have just abandoned that and now expect people to pay more for half baked content.

Everyone keeps complaining about Starfield without stopping to think how much it must have cost to add this many loading screens. They even hired the world's leading loading screen experts for it!

@singledad1313

Ай бұрын

I agree. That many quality load screens per hour is not cheap. The average player gets what, about 14 or 15 load screens every hour? Let's error on the low side and say they are a casual player who only logs about 500 hours in the game. That's roughly 7500 load screens for a $70 game. That is less than a penny per load screen! THAT is bargain in today's game market! Mad respect to Bethesda.

The value proposition of a cosmetic in a single-player game is not the same as in a multi-player game. The value of it in a multiplayer game is that OTHER PEOPLE get to see you "being cool".

@Paradox-es3bl

Ай бұрын

I mean, with streaming or even just Twitter and Instagram and stuff... people can see you being cool in single-player games, too. If you ARE cool, and have viewers lmao. But I mostly agree. VERY different value proposition.

@dogsbecute

Ай бұрын

im a boomer league player, that game was always free to play, and people were more than happy to buy skins for their favorite champs. skins were a sort of "I know what im doing on this champ so i spent money on a free to play game" flex, and other people respected that. It wasnt anything bad. A skin meant you probably dont gotta worry about them. If they messed up anything, a typical thing said was "Refund that skin bro", which was basically the worst shittalk you can say to that. I was so fucking happy when i felt like i was actually good enough on my favorite champion to actually own a skin, and decided to buy my first league skin, and it sowed fear into my enemies hearts, because i played a super un-used champion that most people thought was shit, but one trick ponies like myself tend to be annoying to deal with, so having that skin was also playing a mental game since i can back it up with my skill. Paying $10 for a skin in a SP game that no one will appreciate but me? Nope. Im a firm believer that SP games should have all cosmetics inside to earn. Its why i love the resident evil series. You beat the game, and you unlock so much shit that makes a second playthrough unique. Cosmetics should be rewards that show off your accomplishments. When youre in a SP game, you should feel good with the gear youre wearing. Getting that full set of Fall-out gear in Fallout 3 was always dope, and i couldnt even see my character! It was worth the grind. I didnt have to pay a penny for that. I dont know, i feel like its just cuz i grew up in a different era of video games. The zoomer life is really messing it up for all of us.

@cormoran2303

Ай бұрын

It's the same either way for me because I only care if I think it looks cool.

@singledad1313

Ай бұрын

Buying a skin because you want other people to think you are cool is more messed up than buying a skin because YOU think it is cool. Why do players value other people's opinion more than they value themselves? I could care less if 'DonkeyWubbaWubba67' or 'BeatMyBest420' or 'whatever-name-someone -uses' think I'm cool. Regardless, I think spending my money for a cosmetic for any reason has no value, but if 'Do.You.Like.My.Coolnesss" thinks it is of value, good for him and I hope he enjoys the cosmetic.

@dogsbecute

Ай бұрын

@@singledad1313 what are you talking about, you buy clothes because it looks good on you and you like it, you buy a skin because you like the way your character looks, paying money for a skin in a single player game is for rere's. whats the point in that? single player cosmetics should be unlocked just by playing the game.

Bethesda "Mod makers why aren't you saving our game? Moders "No point modding a game with so few players"

@om58499

Ай бұрын

3:05

@videowatcher551

Ай бұрын

Modders just need to stop entirely, all they do is prolong dead games and enabling these greedy devs to produce countless re-releases.

Quest Name: The Vulture Are they trying to be self-aware or something?

Remember when a Bethesda game launch used to be a massive event in gaming and everyone would be super hyped about the new release? Yeah...i miss that too

@danhensley

Ай бұрын

September?

@kristoffer3000

Ай бұрын

I mean... It was that for Starfield just that there were 2 camps, thinking people that saw it was going to be awful and Bethesda simps.

I dont think Ive ever seen a positive headline about this game.

@TheGreatOne-gw7xh

Ай бұрын

Good. There shouldnt be.

The paid ship module also has a chest that can be put on your ship or settlement. it has unlimited storage and is the only way to get that on those two areas. So they already went and sold QOL

@AutismIsUnstoppable

Ай бұрын

Unlimited storage is a cheat not a Qol item.

@deathfromace

Ай бұрын

@@AutismIsUnstoppable I agree but generally I think cheating when it's an advantage over other players. But either is correct and shouldn't be sold.

@AutismIsUnstoppable

Ай бұрын

@@deathfromace you can still cheat in a single player game, in fact most games came with cheat codes built in at one time.

@deathfromace

Ай бұрын

@@AutismIsUnstoppable Sure, I know. Reason I mentioned how I personally see it and then agreed with you it would count as a cheat.

A skin when applied, is something you can look at and enjoy from that point onward. You can even take it off and re-apply it later. A quest is transitory. Paying for it is more like a toll. And is a precursor for things to come if they get away with it.

@Akeyins

Ай бұрын

Not to mention cosmetics are 100% optional and not buying them doesn't affect your ability to experience everything in the game. Not being able to experience a quest will just make you feel left out from everyone who did buy it

its not a 7$ quest, its 10$. You must pay 10$ to get access. They can break it up into their own currency and give you a rebate but that doesnt change anything for the consume. If anyone wants to buy and play the quest they need to pay 10$, not 7$.

@noncompulsoryl

Ай бұрын

He says that.

Hey gang - testing out a more clean style of thumbnail using youtubes new AB testing feature. Let me know what you think!

@FeartheKlown

Ай бұрын

I clicked not realizing it was your channel

@singledad1313

Ай бұрын

I didn't even notice. Wasn't paying that much attention to the thumbnail.

@karkashan

Ай бұрын

It genuinely looks completely awful.

Why people still trust Bethesda is a mystery to me. After Fallout 76 nobody with a single brain cell should give any more money to Todd "tell me lies" Howard. I knew Starfield was going to suck so I pirated the damn thing. Somehow I felt like I lost money.

@vert2552

Ай бұрын

i sometimes come back to The fall of 76, especially after listening to people commenting that Fallout 76 is actually quite good now.... makes me sick thinking people who literally played on premiere that shit, ale actually talk about getting back. Like how tf you let them off on this. This wasnt just even a case of a terrible release with even worse game. No. privace, illegal practices... literally scamming people, doxing, literally lawsuits against them and yet people are fine now same with stuff like patching after 10 years skyrim and adding this fck crap, so many people are fine with it also, i bought it and i really wish i could get my money back and buy 5-10 games with that i will actually enjoy

@theforgeryttv6449

Ай бұрын

The Bethesda fanbase is a cult, no questions asked. Or, they're coping real hard after how much bad publicity Bethesda got since paid mods.

@R3GARnator

Ай бұрын

Happened with Creative Assembly and Rome 2's launch with lying promotional material.

@DamienCloud

Ай бұрын

nostalgia, same as nintendo

@theforgeryttv6449

Ай бұрын

The Bethesda fanbase is a cult, simple as that,

Is anyone surprised that the company which infamously charged everyone for "horse armor" in Elder Scrolls Oblivion, kicking off the initial debates about what kind of "downloadable content" is justified and how much it should charge, is still charging way too much for way too little in its DLC?

@hankdedalus

Ай бұрын

I always felt the horse armor is what broke Bethesda and it never recovered.

@kristoffer3000

Ай бұрын

@@hankdedalus It's just capitalism.

@hankdedalus

Ай бұрын

@@kristoffer3000 More like greed as this is EA level greed and we all know how much money they lost from doing stuff like this with their games. This is the bad form of capitalism where it only ends up in money lost.

@kristoffer3000

Ай бұрын

@@hankdedalus There is no good form of capitalism. They've also made DISGUSTING amounts of money, don't kid yourself.

It's $7 for half of a quest, Bethesda expanded on the Trackers faction a little and gave use a little quest for free. If you want the other half of the quest that will cost you $7.

I'm way more upset about how creation club DLC disables achievements they are officially licensed so I don't know why they do that

Lol it’s like they can’t help themselves

Its so frustrating watching how many people will pay a company for essentially hopes and prayers of an actual game, and the worst part is theyre not even buying early access where its "somewhat" acceptable for a game to not be feature complete. These idiots are buying full 60$ incomplete games

@Akeyins

Ай бұрын

Worse, it's $70, not $60

@om58499

Ай бұрын

@@Akeyinsno game should be $70 period

@Akeyins

Ай бұрын

@@om58499 agreed, the most part. Some games are worth that, but they're few and far between

@Taylor-bw4zg

Ай бұрын

@@Akeyins ah damn i didnt know they had the balls to charge 70$ for it lol thats even crazier

@trivalentclan-mizar9591

Ай бұрын

That is called buying early access games, aka unfinished games. Would you buy an unfinished car?

Microtransactions should have been micro, a dollar or less

Bethesda try not to be greedy bastards challenge: impossible

There's a certain level of fucking nerve to this horse shit to release a half assed game only to turn around and nickle and dime folks for content that should've been in the base game to begin with. I want a god damn refund now.

Didn't people pay for the "year pass" for the game, to get the dlc released after release? Why can they just come up with "new" dlc that doesn't actually go into that before any of the planned dlc comes out?

@reedk2402

Ай бұрын

That’s shattered space you get for free and still will. I’d argue shattered space is worth more than some space tracker mission even given $7 for that is too much.

It's less about the money for me. It's like a shitty server, who gets your order wrong, brings out cold food, ignores you for the entire meal so you are out of water the whole time and it's not because they are in the weeds. No you see them hanging out at the host stand talking and scrolling on their phone. Then they come and ask you to give them a bigger tip. BGS management made bad decisions resulting in a forgettable and bland game and now are asking us to pay them for content that I can only assume will be forgettable and bland. I'll be waiting a few years for modders to fix and fill out the game like they have done for all of BGS previous titles. Oh and also the what is the cut for the verified creators? Bc I've heard that BGS is keeping 75% but that hasn't been verified afaik.

@kurtfrederiksen5538

29 күн бұрын

I think the bigger question is, currently the game is not worth our time, what is to say in a few years it will be? I already have a full backlog of games that are good that I do not need to mod into a different game to make worth my time (which will take time finding the mods, testing, getting load orders, etc). In a few years that backlog is probably only going to grow. From what I have seen and read, this game is broken on a fundamental game engine level and that is not something modders will be able to fix. Given this, the game design does not respect my time, so why should it give it any? It is kinda like when I see time savers being sold for real world money in single player games.. I go the extra step of saving me a lot of time by simply not buying or playing the game.

@schitzoflink8612

29 күн бұрын

@@kurtfrederiksen5538 I did have fun with the micro level gameplay, I have seen what modders have done with other BGS games, and I enjoy building mod lists. I'm literally combining texture files into BA2's as I type this. I think the reason BGS games are so big is because nobody else makes games like this. There are games that are similar but they are missing something. I for sure could be playing one of my backlog games instead of modding the absolute shit out of FO4 for the 5th time but I want to play this very tuned version of an open world game. I would love it if I didn't have to just ignore the terrible writing or add to it in my head. That is where my critiques usually lie. Well that and the seemingly spun glass level of fragile ego's of management which IMO is why their games have so many issues in the first place. Can't fix a problem if you can't even admit you messed up in the first place, right? Listen to an interview of former devs and even if they think they are saying good things about working at BGS you'll be like "OHHHHH these failures make so much more sense now." So I'll do what I always planned to do and wait to mod Starfield to hell and back in a few years. The only reason I bought this BGS title day one is because my friend was and I wanted to share that experience with him. Otherwise I would have waited for a GoTY sale in a few years like I did with all the others.

You know, I used to get really angry at this kind of stuff. After so long refusing to engage with these greedy corporations, though, I actually get a pretty big laugh watching idiots that still throw away their money away rage at the consequences of their own actions.

Sometimes you just gotta tell Tod "NO" He'll take your financial cheeks.

@electron_shell

Ай бұрын

lol not my financial cheeks, how will i ever

Hi, I'm the guy whose Reddit post you shared in the video--and also a modder in the community, funnily enough. I wanted to highlight my full perspective on this, and maybe give some balance to it, since I believe my post pre-dated a lot of the biggest controversy with this? I think this is dumb--that's it. It's not really damaging to the experience itself, nor is it particularly new for Bethesda either (overpriced Creations have been a thing since 2016 with the release of Special Edition.) What is also introduced alongside this is a free, better quest, featuring new mechanics and equipment, as well as a few other free additions. It's not crazy--not vehicles or anything yet--but it's honestly a shame that those good additions were overshadowed by just... a kind of cringe repeat of the same terrible Creations business model. To be clear; this doesn't mean the price point is good--it's awful. But that just makes the Creations bad products. Doesn't really affect the game itself in any negative way. Also, side-note based on the thumbnail: I'm not furious at all. I just think it's really, really funny.

@BellularNews

Ай бұрын

Oh sweet, nice to see you! Yep - I think perceptions of value are a fascinating topic within the industry. For the game, this stuff is a big picture win. Also interesting that the '7$ quest' gets headlines, while a '$7 gun' would be crickets.

@TheMightyNovac

Ай бұрын

@@BellularNews Looking big picture, I don't really see the benefit; so what if Creations become overpriced, so what if they become free? Mods are already free, and usually better. There's popular mods for Skyrim whose whole gimmicks are bringing the official Creations to the same standards as regular mods. For bad monetization to be a substantial problem, it has to like... be a thing anybody actually wants. This isn't really an issue, as much as it's entertainment for people to gawk at in the interim between substantial updates and improvements--which this update majority was.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO NOT PAY FOR THIS!!! Please, just a little self restraint.

Those scenes in the trailer of shattered space in zero gravity flying through that outpost with the moving alien life on the walls look pretty much like Prey.

I actually got the quest for free, because they gave us on Xbox 1000 worth of credits to spend in the creation club. I just used that to buy it.

It's amazing how people seem to hold Bethesda to a completely different standard than any other developer. The skin vs quest is a great example. Just makes me think so much less of those people.

do gamepass people have to pay for the $7 also ?

I maintain that the biggest problem with starfield is that the whole world from a writing perspective is sterile safe and horrifically dull.

Does how many mods it has now matter when there will be a Special, an Anniversary, a VR, a Legendary, and a Complete Edition?

I hated seeing that multiplayer guy hitting the journalist headlines everyone that doesn't bother to rub two brain cells together exaggerated, "the modders quit modding Starfield"

If you going to make a game that modders have to fix, you can't ask modders to pay you 70% of their work. Or gamers to pay for the modders either.

after horse armor, after paid mods, after fallout 4, after fallout 76... you still buy Bethesda games, you deserve everything you get.

@kurtfrederiksen5538

29 күн бұрын

Honestly, I enjoyed Fallout 4. Granted the New Vegas narrative and collective DLC was worlds better, however the I did enjoy the updated gunplay and crafting system in 4. That and only 3 of the 6 DLCs were high enough quality to be considered DLC in my book. But yea Fallout 76 is where I drew my line, with how starfield is, I no longer have real interest in any BS game that will be released, including Elder Scrolls.

Make you wonder how much the armored rover dlc gonna be sold at...

Appreciate you saying I put it well, that post seemed to have been quite polarising. But your one of the few people to take it and not misquote me!

Remember, while Bathesda could deliver their product in a canvas bag, they choose the duffle bag instead.

I'm shocked Starfield sold a single copy after FO76. I'm not shocked that Bethesda would stoop so low as sell a single post launch quest for almost $10.

Is there a mod that removes load screens and fishbowl exploration?

Bethesda: a single 2x2 ship module, 10 dollars Elianora: a full raider set of ship modules, 9 of them which are very well designed, 5 dollars

I saw, "$7 is too much for a Quest" I was thinking it was refering of Facebook's Meta Quest head display and was like, "is the first gen that cheap now?"

I love Starfield, and I liked the tracker alliance addition. I didn't get the extra mission. Besides the pricing I mostly dislike the uncertainty of the model. I don't know what content I can expect in the future. How many quests will be added to the tracker alliance? Will there be a quest bundle down the road? I would prefer a season pass, dlc or expansion that tells me what is I'm getting.

Creates Tracker's Alliance and adds a free mission. Then adds a paid mission where you hunt one single man who gives you the slip at least twice. Then, you catch him and defeat him. You're rewarded with 20k credits, two variants of his outfit, and a really nice sniper rifle. For this short mission and some loot, you have to fork out $7. What is really bad is that they set this up to be "Pay per mission." It would be like them asking for 700 Creation Points for each state of the Crimson Fleet storyline. Except the each stage of the faction quest is very basic and boring. Go here, clear room of hostiles, follow the next breadcrumb for a clue. I knew they were going to find a way to increase monitization...but I didn't expect this.

My gun seems to be bugged as i can't reload it

Don't forget the extra greed, the reason they're not selling it on steam and using their own storefront is so they don't have to pay the Gaben.

@reedk2402

Ай бұрын

Ya but I don’t see the issue with that. Like why should a company have to use a service and pay another company if they don’t have to. Paying Gabe isn’t any more good than paying Microsoft, Sony, epic, or any other store front. You think steam isn’t greedy to? Ya don’t look into anything around the loot box’s or store for cs go

@AutismIsUnstoppable

Ай бұрын

@@reedk2402 their choice but I'm not downloading their launcher or making an account and I'm definitely never giving them my payment info. If it's not on steam or gog Im not buying.

@bligh1156

Ай бұрын

@@reedk2402 They want to sell me DLC for a game that I bought through steam? Then sell it through steam. You are bringing up a lot of unrelated arguments. This is story content for the game I bought on Steam, it's not loot boxes in counter strike.

I love watching gaming news on this channel, however I find it amazing how he extends news that would fit on a short to 10min+

@veeatemoder8695

Ай бұрын

Gotta monetize to the max. That haircut didn't pay for itself.

im one of the few people that actually had fun with starfield, the few things that just boils my blood are... 1 - the required ssd yet i need 4 loading screens just to get off my ship, go into my house, get my stuff, get back to my ship 2 - unkillable named npcs, even dialogues that says "attack", they wont stay down and just breaks the quest

I consider DLCs and such as Tips to the developer. The idea of content behind behind a paywall is what Expansion packs used to be, but nowadays we never get those anymore.

what’s with BGS being the pioneer of the worst game practices???? like wtf -first it was creating mtx with horse armor -second is either paying for creation club or charging more for early access -third is now this bs where they charge for individual missions… this is so infuriating bc i’ve played skyrim dozens of times, fallout 3, NV, and 4 to full completion..and now they keep fvcking up. i am done with BGS, they are just plain horrible now with no redeeming factors… :///

"it is about as exiting as Preston Garvey" The most damning review Starfield has ever recieved.

The stupidest part of this is that if Bethesda had been less greedy and released some of those creations for free then this could have been a good PR day for them.

@TheGreatOne-gw7xh

Ай бұрын

Bethesda doesnt care about PR anymore, they know fanboys like mrmattyplays will eat up all the slop they give them.

this is going to be a new trend and i like it. Negative review bomb a game on Steam is the only way to send a message to companies without them having their own stores just to filter reviews. I'm doing my part for super Earth? ARE YOU?

Have they fixed stealth yet?

I think perhaps the difference between cosmetics and quests being behind paywalls is that cosmetics only don't affect access to content, thus they feel entirely optional. Content is not the same. Like, you might want a car that does what you expect to and you want it to work well and be reliable and be a full car (not just a part of a car). But the heated seats, the extra cameras, cruise control, etc., are luxuries which are optional and have very personal value. But if then you were told, "Here's the second wing mirror for extra cost", you'd be well annoyed. Content DLC should feel like you buying a trailer you attach to a car that let's you carry extra stuff. It shouldn't feel like something that should have been part of the car in the first place.

The modders are the developers on starfield lol.

The quest thing with providing the 1st, pay to continue... isn't this the "pay for another clip to reload" thing anew? I mean I guess we used to pay for extra lives at the arcade. But I bought games for home to save from the arcade experience.

For the most part, the compromise gamers had with companies is that microtransactions can only be cosmetic, and any gameplay related things needed to be full on expansions if they intend to charge for them. Bethesda charging 7 bucks for a single quest breaks that, so of course we’re mad.

I love Starfield. I started playing recently and can’t put it down. If you’re interested in it, go for it. I hate that I listened to all the negative reviews and waited to pull the trigger. It’s my favorite game of all time now!

I remember when they released the Creation Club for Fallout 4, the amount of times I couldn't play it, because they updated the store, which in turn broke compatibility with the script extender, and I had to wait for it and any associated mods to be updated first. It really killed the fun of modding and playing Fallout 4 for me, so much so, I opted to just uninstall the game.

Whenever I hear about companies trying to paywall single missions I think of Cyberpunk 2077, and have the repeatedly would add gigs and Easter eggs with their updates free of charge

eventually, these companies will be charging us to write a negative review, and in this way they will exist forever.

The difference is that the cosmetic is not mandatory...

I think the update is amazing, and the biggest gripe I have with the "creations" tab is that everything is 3x more expensive than it should be. A lot of the content is worth paying for but just not THAT much. Its a VERY good thing that they also released modding tools though, the modding scene is gonna go skyrim with this i'm sure.

Guess that means the fixed all the loading screen and exploration issues right? Right?

The most shocking part is that anyone is playing star field. I thought people would leave when even the modders gave up.

Why are people surprised every time this happens? Do you never learn? We have a saying that I will butcher by translating it, but here we go: "Even a donkey doesn't collide with the same rock/boulder twice."

"There's also 2 cosmetics" Also on that same creations store are mods with hundreds of custom made cosmetics that look vastly superior to the cosmetics in this mod... for FREE This should be a couple hundred points at most.

I "bought" the quest since they gave us 1000 credits for free, but I sure as hell won't pay for any priced like that in the future, lol

There is a difference in a 7 dollar cosmetic that does not alter the gameplay, and a 7 dollar quest that is in-game content. You don't have to buy a cosmetic to experience any part of the game. You would have to buy the quest to experience that portion of the game.

If Microsoft values a single quest at $7, just imagine how much they are going to charge for their expansion. Yikes!

I acquired Star Field premium as a promo with an AMD GPU I bought last year. I played for about 85 hours and was completely underwhelmed by it and haven't played it since late last year. I was thinking of giving it another try after the updates but I don't think I'll bother now..