Betelgeuse might explode (in the next 150,000 years) - Sixty Symbols
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Professor Mike Merrifield pours some cold water on Betelgeuse - but also explains what will happen when it DOES explode.
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"I bet a fair amount of money that it will not go in my life time" all right,, there is two possibility 1: it goes... and he need to pay a fair amount of money 2: ... it doesn´t, and he get a fair amount of money when he dies. This is not a good betting strategy
@matsv201
4 жыл бұрын
@PikPobedy Yepp.. if that would be possible to bet of things happening before once death.. i would bet a bilion dollar on freaking everything. It don´t matter if i lose 999 out of a 1000.
@refrashed
4 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, it would just go to next of kin, like a life insurance policy with a very strange stipulation.
@matsv201
4 жыл бұрын
@@refrashed Its not legal to transfer blanko liabilities to next of kind
@refrashed
4 жыл бұрын
@@matsv201 There are no liabilities because it's already been paid for. If it explodes before he dies, they would simply keep the money. Meanwhile, if it's still intact when he dies, the return would be paid to next of kin. Betting on something doesn't mean you "promise" to pay it back, like a loan. It means you paid money in the hopes of getting more back.
@Rodzynus
4 жыл бұрын
@@matsv201 Is it a liability though? Bookies take money when you place the bet so at this point if you lose, the money has already been paid. You or next of kin can only receive money.
2:08 the perfect Minecraft villager noise
@KnowledgeLabZero
4 жыл бұрын
XD
@sahilbaori9052
4 жыл бұрын
OMG!!
@rubenpinamonti7125
4 жыл бұрын
LOL
8:31 General public: "It's quite sad almost" Physicists: "It's pathetic, really"
@R1ckr011
3 жыл бұрын
So British 🍵
8:14 B. - So a star spends all that time burning fuel, over millions of years, but the final fuel event is something measured over hours? M. - Hours, yes, literally hours, so it really is that frantic, but it's desperately trying to stay alive and so it's using up all the fuel it possibly can B. - It's quite sad, almost M. - It's pathetic, really B. - It's like it's drowning Best analogy I've heard.
"They should have bets on astronomical events" "I bet you could" Well done, sir
@TheExoplanetsChannel
4 жыл бұрын
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@wiggles7976
4 жыл бұрын
That's just a bet on making bets.
@marvelous1358
4 жыл бұрын
@@wiggles7976 betception
This must be the twentieth video about Betelgeuse that I watch. 😄 I feel I could go on tv and be interviewed as an expert on it. 😁
@sixtysymbols
4 жыл бұрын
Are you available?
@priyanshupradhan4388
4 жыл бұрын
@@sixtysymbols classic Brady
@galacticbob1
4 жыл бұрын
@@sixtysymbols I agree! I don't think you have made a video on the Dunning-Kruger effect yet. 😝🤣
@R1ckr011
3 жыл бұрын
@@sixtysymbols ::surprised Pikachu::
@H1TMANactual
3 жыл бұрын
When is it gonna explode?
I could listen prof. Mike for hours
Ford Prefect will not be too happy about this.
@Plons0Nard
4 жыл бұрын
How about Zaphod ? Or Zaphod the Fourth, grand grand dad ? 😊
@projectmalus
4 жыл бұрын
He can use his towel to cry into.
@Slarti
4 жыл бұрын
Don't panic!
@pedroscoponi4905
4 жыл бұрын
Something tells me Ford wasn't terribly attached to home...
@mal2ksc
4 жыл бұрын
Neither will Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton. (disappears)
"Somewhere inside Betelgeuse, there might be the remains of a civilization." "Well fried, yes." "How do you want your civilization deary? Well done?" "Yes, please. And can I have some scraps?" "That will be 25p extra. Is that alright?"
@avenged277693
3 жыл бұрын
Is that supposed to be happening at a diner?
There actually is an early warning system in place - it consists of seven detectors from what I remember - including HALO (the Helium and Lead Observatory), Super Kamiokande, and IceCube. The system is aptly named SNEWS (Super Novae Early Warning System).
Love it! This is why I study to be a scientist. Thanks, @Sixty Symbols
@sixtysymbols
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
14:57 So its basically one of the few stars that is also a lava lamp!
@justincronkright5025
4 жыл бұрын
'Few' is like so many other terms here... Relative :)
@roku_nine
4 жыл бұрын
Its a giant blob of nuclear fusion.
@nicosmind3
4 жыл бұрын
@@roku_nine Like i said, lava-lamp :)
I am ambivalent. I want to see a supernova but the sky will be just a little sadder missing the star. And Orion will be missing his shoulder, that's gotta hurt.
@zhiqiandu3110
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Jackson Orion will have a really beefy shoulder for some months and later a gamma rays flashing shoulder
@mutantgeralt
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wonder what will it entail. I mean, how much do we love constellations? I mean, they are arbitrary are they not? We could turn orion sans betlegues into a new constellation, there can be stories about sacrifice and rising from the remains.
Damn, I'd better start hoarding toilet paper!
@alazrabed
4 жыл бұрын
Never too much prepared before the big explosion.
@matbroomfield
4 жыл бұрын
@@alazrabed Now are we still talking about a stellar explosion of friday night curry event?
@alazrabed
4 жыл бұрын
@@matbroomfield We're talking about the kind of explosion explosive enough to grant you escape velocity. Saturday morning or not.
@matbroomfield
4 жыл бұрын
@@alazrabed lol
@kellyjackson7889
4 жыл бұрын
Uranus enters the chat?
I never even thought of this before, but now I really want to witness a supernova in my lifetime.
Orion is my favorite constellation and the only one that I can reliably spot right away. It would be a shame to mess up the shoulder.
@kigozimuhammad
3 жыл бұрын
well there will still be a neutron star left hanging. plus a big enough bright nebulae . that shoulder will be more epic than now imo
I was going to bring up that paper at 6:26 I work with one of the authors on my research and another one of them taught the core courses in my physics major.
love these longer videos.. now more frequent videos please and thankyou
@avinotion
4 жыл бұрын
I'll take quality over quantity any day. Except it's quality over quantity, so I'll have to wait.
Ahh Merrifield, my fav scientist
Another awesome lesson by Prof. Mike Merrifield
Collect the bets into a fund and use the interest to buy telescopes.
8:58 top right that's a cool graph, look very unscientific yet it's in a paper
@Danilego
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, that looks just like my doctor's handwriting!
@HappyBeezerStudios
4 жыл бұрын
Or those orbital graphs from when planets appear to go retrograde.
@Debrafeem
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It shows how sporadic the core temperature of the star is, as it contracts burns and contracts further, searching for more material to fuse!
Love your philanthropic mentality. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Humanity needs it. 💫👽💫
I love these videos. Especially because they create me a hunger for going down educational rabbit holes and spending money on my Kindle!
Before seeing the reports of the dimming taking place, I actually did look up at the night sky, while walking my mothers dog and I was genuinely surprised at how faint it had become, wondering if it had already gone off and just kind of... fizzled out, unexpectedly. I occasionally still stare at it, hoping it will suddenly just... flare up and illuminate the night sky! The initial light being emitted from the blast, must be quite spectacular! ⭐
Nice video! Re supernova - There’s another great video on this topic by Cool Worlds that discusses that a supernova is actually not guaranteed and the star could implode “winking out” with great literature references in the description
Excellent explanation.
It's weird to think that it if exploded now we wouldn't know for 642 years.
All the while there is a tiny something behind the fan atop the cabinet above the professor’s left shoulder (on our right) waving frantically.
@AstroMikeMerri
4 жыл бұрын
dahemac it’s my perpetual motion machine, but, shh, don’t tell anyone!
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
Ай бұрын
@@AstroMikeMerriFound Mike in the wilds of KZread! 😮 Would love to have you autograph my copy of Galactic Astronomy!
Surely if we have a manned mission to Mars he will win the bet. The astronauts will be on Mars and they are a form of life. Better find that betting slip!
@mutantgeralt
3 жыл бұрын
They have to FIND life on Mars, not click a picture of any life on Mars. The difference is pretty clear
@Jekubman
3 жыл бұрын
@@mutantgeralt So what to do is go to Mars with at least two persons and play hide and seek... Find the other and you're in profit!
Could you do a video on the unification of the forces? I think I get a general idea but I'm still confused and I'd be really interested to learn about that : )
It's unfortunate that we might never be able to witness the explosion. 150,000 years is a long time for humanity to survive.
@silverhawkroman
4 жыл бұрын
We've been humans for 200,000 years, we're like cockroaches: there's always a few remaining
@IYPITWL
4 жыл бұрын
@@silverhawkroman ... Pre-nuclear man had it so easy.
@BrownOpsLeak
4 жыл бұрын
RIP humanity
@2ebarman
4 жыл бұрын
I actually got thinking, can we perhaps prevent this explosion? There is a chance in those timelines.
@jukahri
4 жыл бұрын
@@2ebarman No, and we wouldn't want to anyway.
It pronounced : Bayt ALjawza, which means literally "the House of ALjawza", ALjawza is the The Gimini.. Actually in Arabic astronomy they call it : "Mankab ALjawza" which means : the shoulder of Gimini.though the Orion constellation this star in Called : "ALJabar" which means: The Giant.
@alijassim7015
4 жыл бұрын
*Thumbs Up*... Although to be precise, "Al Jabar" does not really mean The Giant, but The Mighty.
@mal2ksc
4 жыл бұрын
@Toughen Up, Fluffy _Is_ a giant. He's still tall enough to need a double B in his name (it's Abdul-Jabbar). As for the pronunciation, English is notorious for stealing vocabulary, spelling it correctly if it's in a Latin script (even though it uses a completely different mapping of sounds to letters) or making something up otherwise, and then everyone coming up with a new and possibly quite unrecognizable pronunciation of their own based on the spelling. Betelgeuse is far from the only victim.
@tiihtu2507
4 жыл бұрын
But how English people would pronounce it : Bay All-jaws .... Not sure if that's an improvement over Beetlejuice.
@johnpepple3456
4 жыл бұрын
House? Where do you get that? I've always heard that it was armpit, and Wikipedia agrees (for whatever that is worth). You're right about Mankab al-Jawza' being the current Arabic term, but that supports my claim that it was originally armpit, because mankab is shoulder.
@ffhashimi
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnpepple3456 As I said it's real name is "Menkab ALjawza"; Bayt ALjawza as have been said is the corrupted name, house of Aljawaza is the literal meaning of this corrupted name.
Whoa! Look at that fuel getting burned! So intense! Mike- hmph. Pathetic.
"Well fried." Sounds like Professor Merrifield loves him some fish and chips!
@SolaceEasy
4 жыл бұрын
How very British
I can’t stop paying attention to that little thing behind the fan that won’t stop rocking back and forth.
At first: Thank you for the effort to make all these fantastic videos! I've had the idea for another when i watched this one. You've said, that we (humans) don't quite know how spectacular phenomena like a supernova would look like if we hadn't observe one before. Wouldn't it be interesting to compare human made Interpretations of supernovae and so on to investigate which one is the most plausible? greeting from Germany
Sixty Symbols: It's never about HOW you say it. It's always about HOW MANY TIMES you say it. Everybody knows that.
@mal2ksc
4 жыл бұрын
Repetition legitimizes. Repetition legitimizes. Repetition legitimizes.
@thesuccessfulone
4 жыл бұрын
2.9999-
@photonicpizza1466
4 жыл бұрын
@@mal2ksc Bass-ics of all nomenclature
0:35 Yeah, okay, Orion was the first constellation I was taught to recognize, but... I've lived in areas with ridiculous light pollution for a long, long time-the last time I visited my home town there were so many starts in the sky I couldn't locate *anything*. =(
Wildest anthropomorphising of a Star's thermonuclear core I have ever seen. "it's desperate!"
Paused at 8:36 to talk to someone. Looked at my screen and couldn't help but laugh. Typical mad scientist!
Nice! But why isn‘t there a biology channel? 😔
I remember watching this man like over a decade ago when he was still rocking sunglasses and leather jacket. How time flies
@thirdcoastpartners
4 жыл бұрын
Mike is my favorite of the Sixty Symbols/Deep Sky hosts. He looks quite peaked lately compared to older episodes. I hope he's not ill....
Since I don't use twitter I have to bring it up again in here and hope you see it: Any chance for a video on these repeating radio signals from space?
If Betelgeuse goes BOOM in my life time, I will consider it a lottery win.
@michaelpettersson4919
4 жыл бұрын
If it does chances are that you will not see it since it isn't really in our close neighbourhood so it will take a couple of centuries before we can see it. It is of course possible, thou unlikely, that it have already blown.
@ZappaBlues
4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpettersson4919 What I mean it is that has already gone BOOM and light show has just arrived to earth,
150,000 years from now eh? Well I guess I should have something to worry about shouldn't I?
Thank You Scientist, very cool.
What is that perpetual motion machine next to that fan? It just keeps wobbling throughout the video.
Well fried...🤣
"So somewhere in the middle of Betegeuse might be the remains of civilisations." Erm no. A 10 solar mass star lives nowhere long enough for that to be the case. 10 solar mass stars last 20 million years or so total. That's enough time for planets to form but not really much more than that. Then they go boom and vapourise any planets that have escaped being engulfed by the star's supergiant phase.
@davidpnewton
4 жыл бұрын
@@weye scientists and the Fermi paradox.
@justincronkright5025
4 жыл бұрын
Is 20 millions years enough before it gets engulphed? I thought that massive volcanic activity, much like those convections in stars would keep any planets from having a nice form or shape to them. Plus they would be spinning faster too, although I'm not sure how much that would assist in deforming the planets other than at the equator... and molten/liquid rock and such maybe have intra-adhesive properties such as the hydrogen boding of water. It would be interesting to see the full picture there. Also 20 million years would be from the star's perspective not the planet's, so the gas and dust wouldn't have even settled by then.
@joshuacoppersmith
4 жыл бұрын
We have precisely one example with the evolution of an intelligent--or any--species: Earth. From this it is impossible to draw any scientific conclusion. We should instead say that untested theory would predict... Science demands evidence. Period.
@andrew20195
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuacoppersmith It's not impossible that intelligent life evolved in the Betelgeuse system in the 10-20 million years it has existed, but based on what we know of the complexity of organic chemistry, it is exceedingly unlikely.
@ekscalybur
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuacoppersmith We have more than one example. There have been 5 mass extinction level events in Earths history. Some of those 'events' nearly spanned the ENTIRE life cycle of a 10 solar mass star. Each of those events, since life first appeared, took MUCH longer than the life span of a 10 solar mass star even with the massive head start of each event NOT being a total extinction of life. With that head start, several times the life span of a 10 solar mass star passed since the last mass extinction event before intelligent life sprang up. Life, let alone intelligent life, has zero chance to have developed around Betelgeuse. 20 million years is a literal astronomical eye blink.
Betelgeuse: Shut up! I'm not dimming! You're dimming! And I'm not crying, either... I just got dust in my eye. Stupid humans on a stupid little planet saying mean things about me, like "You're gonna blow up soon!" and "Hurry up, and explode so I can see it." Yeah, I used this joke on another video's comment section about this same thing. I think Betelgeuse still needs some love and a hug.
@jackielinde7568
4 жыл бұрын
Professor Merrifield: Part of the reason nobody knows is because it really is a very messy system. It's big, extended, bloated kind of thing... Betelgeuse: Look who's calling who a "bit, extended, bloated kind of thing..."
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the laugh four years later 😂 I needed that!
Correction for 3:25: 20 Feb 2019 should be 20 Feb 2020.
Calling it "1987A" makes it sound like it only happened in one timeline but not the others
Crazy to think it's only ten times as massive as the Sun and yet is a thousand times larger.
@riccardoorlando2262
4 жыл бұрын
It really is quite fluffy.
@alazrabed
4 жыл бұрын
@@riccardoorlando2262 Yeah, just a sweet blanket I bet.
11:00 Was Ford Prefect a neutrino? Because he said he came from the general direction of Betelgeuse.
You are the best
Professor merryfield's jumper seems to have a bit of a shimmer to it? Dunno if it's a flickering light or some kind of moiré type deal but it's slightly distracting. Has sixty symbols done a video on moiré patterns? Seems like a fair idea for a video Great video otherwise
"Bootlegors" - somebody in one of the greatest comedies
When is a new sixty symbol video coming?
If it blew up tomorrow, it would be over 600 years before we would know
I just heard there's new evidence it is indeed a dust cloud thrown off causing the dimming so it seems Professor Merrifield was spot on at the end :]
Love the videos!
I would love a new video with the shortened time estimation!
Abt Al Jouza, essentially "beetlejuice" is in the category of close enough, "bay tell guys" likely isn't. It just translates to "the armpit." I actually used the dimming of Betelguese as a current event in a class recently. Made for a fun topic. Now I just need to go bet a dollar on million to one odds that it goes up in my life time.
We need to see the Booker paper slip!
Bet-Al-Jauza. As the Arabic description (not a real name) was pronounced in Latin when the Almagest (ancient star catalogue)was discovered in the library of Toledo, Spain.
Damn, you can't count on anything anymore. Even the stars are stressing out and blowing up.
What is that small square thing moving back and forth on the file cabinet behind the professor? 🤔
Thanks! I'm going to pack my bug out bag right now and start stockpiling milky ways!
3:18 the date goes from Aug 2019 to Jan 2020 then back to Feb 2019, is the star moving faster than light?
@casualbeluga2724
4 жыл бұрын
Going c^2 makes you go back in time
@michaelsommers2356
4 жыл бұрын
It's called a typo.
@DANGJOS
4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelsommers2356 It's called a joke.
@michaelsommers2356
4 жыл бұрын
@@DANGJOS Sometimes it's hard to tell.
What's that oscillating thing near the fan throughout the video??
The long awaited Betelgeuse video!
That is so cool, I wish I can live to see it.
I've been shot with a neutrino gun, and I can back that claim up by quoting the absence of evidence associated with being shot by a neutrino gun.
Well I'm going to See If you are right. Luckely I can Timetravel. Only 1 Seconds per Seconds and I might need to create a new Time travel Body but that's No problem. I'm Not Sure If I can make it Back or that I remember what my Mission was, but If everything goes right...
Mike is an awesome!
I'll be honest and say that if I'm taking a trip late at night and see a supernova go off on the night sky, I'd be fucking horrified and run back home.
I totally would have guessed that the JUNO detector would be associated with Canada. (Juno Awards, Juno Beach) But Canada's neutrino detector is called SNO (Sudbury Neutrino Observatory) so that makes sense.
I thought the sign in the thumbnail was “Beware, Death Star Crossing.”
Of course, as long as it doesn't go off in the middle of the summer, for weeks ahead of time amateur astronomers will be looking up at it going, "Geez, Betelgeuse is looking really strange lately. Better tell the professional astronomers..."
Just to be understanding... - The 'current' dimming took place almost 600 (or more) years ago. The light of that dimming is just now reaching us. So Betelgeuse might have exploded centuries ago.
@hireahitCA
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. And? Given the limitations of the speed of lights astronomers talk about what they see today as current (even when qualifying that the event was billions of years earlier in the universe’s lifespan).
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
Ай бұрын
@@hireahitCAYes thank you! So obnoxious when people think they're so clever to point out that the photons we see were emitted a proportional amount of time ago to the distance they've traveled. 😂
oh man I'm glad it's not the Bazelgeuse
For all we know it happened in 1321AD already, in which case we'll see it go next year... 💥
I just realized betelgeuse dimmed around 700 years ago and its just now getting noticed.
"We will get a warning" but only if we have a reliable way to detect neutrinos.
I was wondering if it is because of dust shouldn't it be clear after looking at Betelguese in multiple ranges of spectrum...
I remembered Biggus Dickus and Incontinentia Buttocks when I tried to pronounce Betelgeuse
@asagoldsmith3328
4 жыл бұрын
What's so funny about the name biggus dickus?
@GERhashim
4 жыл бұрын
@@asagoldsmith3328 it's from a meme type it and see the video
@Zogg from Betelgeuse, so thats why you are not posting videos you are preoccupied?
According to Wikipedia, "The star's name is derived from the Arabic يد الجوزاء Yad al-Jauzā', meaning "the hand of Orion". The Arabic letter for Y was misread as B by medieval translators, creating the initial B in Betelgeuse." So it should really be pronounced "Yettle-geeze"? Bet'-uhl-jooz. Bate'-uhl-jooz.
When will there be an app for neutrino alarms?
Neutrinos will take about 4.5-5-5 hours to escape that envelope and will give us that little bit of warning.
Once the supernova fades, what will be Betelgeuse's magnitude? Will it still be usable for navigation? Right now, the dimmest of the 57 selected navigational stars is Acamar (θ Eridani), with a magnitude of 3.1. Sure, we're talking maybe 150,000 years in the future but it never hurts to plan ahead. 😁
@garethdean6382
4 жыл бұрын
From what we can guess around magnitude 2-4, and almost all of that will be its nebula. (Hence the variation since the nebula will be growing both larger and dimmer over time.)
Wait... There are actually professional businesses that make money by agreeing to random bets proposed by customers? Am I the only person here who has never heard of this?
Would love a video about the new particle: “Dstar Hexaquark”. Which may account for a large portion of dark matter.
I was today years old when I realized that Betlegeuse is an actual star and not just some lore of Hitchhikers Guide
How come they didn’t mention the SNO lab in the paper or video? The Sudbury Neutrino Observatory in Ontario Canada recently won the Nobel prize, is it a different kind of neutrino observatory?
I wonder what odds the bookie will give me on whether or not they'll find any intelligent life on earth?
isnt there an error in the graph at 3:24 on the left it says 20feb 2019 but shouldnt it say 2020?
@sixtysymbols
4 жыл бұрын
Yes - and I sure am glad y'all enjoy writing comments about it. :)
Are there any other stars (excepting the sun, natch) that we can take a picture of? Or is Betelgeuse the only one?
After it's over, what will we see where the star used to be? A nebula? Or just empty space?
@francoislacombe9071
4 жыл бұрын
Something very similar to the Crab Nebula. And possibly a pulsar, if the beams happen to sweep over our solar system.
@PuzzleQodec
4 жыл бұрын
A naked eye pulsar would be the coolest thing ever. A faint stroboscope star.