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@backupintheday9710

Жыл бұрын

The Best value is a 400W or 600W HPS for flowering. LED's are only useful for vegging and clones. You know that's the truth too. You'll get twice the yield with HPS and they are cheaper to purchase. Yes HPS will use more power the LED.. But it's producing Double the Yield.

@AnthonyHillard-xd3pf

8 ай бұрын

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This guy makes comparison videos so interesting with the important information that we all are seeking. Seems like he does a pretty fair evaluation even while having his own light brand in the mix. I'll be looking at the Migro lights in the very near future when I upgrade.

@2aprogressive626

2 жыл бұрын

Been watching him for years. He’s legit. He wouldn’t even do affiliate links for products he reviewed until a few months ago.

@metparker

2 жыл бұрын

I have 4 of these and they perform perfectly. For all environments, soil and hydro. 1 is perfect for a 2 x 4 tent. 2 for a 4 x 4.

@metparker

2 жыл бұрын

I meant I have 4 of the Migro Array 4.

Great, unbiased and Informed video as usual Shane, keep up the good work.

The migro uniformity of coverage is awesome! Well done Shane!

Those PAR maps showing the more even distribution are exactly what I always look for and then for you to add the note on using the CO2 was an excellent touch. Thanks.

I'm unboxing my Mars Hydro FC8000 today and it's going into a Gorilla Grows 5X5.

Thanks again. Hobby growers on limited incomes are looking for ways to reduce electricity bills, which are set to double this year. You are the closest to being the Martin Lewis of indoor horticulture, and I hope you continue to address all electrical use involved . Winter is a big problem, stealth growers in the attic need to know how to maintain minimum temps that will produce, for minimum power use. 3 feet tube heaters (120 watt) x 2 may be enough for a winter harvest. Would be great if you could construct a winter set up and provide us with stats. No one is addressing this because the costs are passed along in most cases, but hobbyists can no longer afford heating. In summer, regular plants may be preferred to autoflowers due to 12 hours instead of 24 (20) , and maybe HPS (never used them) seems to deliver more radiant heat. You seem to have a nose for this stuff, and I am grateful. 450 watts is plenty for 4x4, (hobby)

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

John, I think the solution is two fold. Insulate your tent/grow space and run airflow with temperature/humidity control. Many growers run fan at too high speed which is not necessary IMO. I would sacrifice higher air flow for higher temps in winter.

Shane is like a fine wine he improves with age every sip of his knowledge is intoxicating

@hoesandhose

2 жыл бұрын

Ok simp

I really appreciate the time and effort you put into making this content! This is my GO TO resource for a deep dive on the current lights. Thank you so very much. :) I have the NextLight Mega (two of em) and although they aren't that old, the tech in this arena has seen some big improvements.. enough perhaps to update. I really like your lights.. the Pod ones that were submerged in an aquarium were really neat.

I succesfully drow tomatoes, watermelons, strawberries, cucumbers, peppers and other just using these 60x60cm 36 and 50 watts ceiling lights like uou have in your room. Everything grow very nice and good a year around in my flat!

This episode was the one that sold me on the Aray. Had to watch it again. Go Shane!

@MIGROLIGHT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Brett.

It’s interesting. The more I expose myself to understanding the more that a pattern begins to emerge. The pattern, is that the more consistently we’re able to provide the light to the enclosed grow area, the better we’re able to mimic Mother Nature. While outdoors at high noon on the longest day of the year, we read about 2,000 PPFD from the sun. If we are able to give the plants the uniformity of the MIGRO ARRAY 8, for instance, we’ll have a better outcome than from a light source with 1200 in the center with 400 in the corners. Shane is brilliant for recognizing that.

I run the Mars Hydro FC 3000 which I thinks a great fixture actually a little stronger in my three-by-three than I thought it would be

Grand Master level designed a few nice bar light's that are killer. Thanks for all your work. Cheers

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

Review on the way👍

@HAPPYHERBS1

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh, can't wait to see the results for the tarantula.

I have the Hyphontonflux HPF4000 for the last year now. It has been performing really well, and has been keeping up with the HLG 600Rspec i bought at the same time.

@vinchenzo678

Жыл бұрын

Do you find your needing Co2 with the HLG?

@jonathanscoggins5868

Жыл бұрын

@@vinchenzo678 I just recently added Co2, keeping it around 1200, i have noticed a difference in crystal production within the first 2 weeks of using it. Getting waaay more now!

The very best information available. Thank you. I went with the Viperspectra for a 3x3 area based in part on your review of the KS3000. So happy with the purchase of this entry level LED. 👍

I really appreciate the unbiased, FACTS.....if a light is cheap as hell, but works, HE'LL say it!!!

You dont need to run co2 on high powered lights. Just dim them accordingly. There are percentage/height/par stats out there for pretty much all of them.

@vinchenzo678

Жыл бұрын

I've been getting better results adjusting HLG Scorpion to 500W

Co2? What?? There’s a dimmer switch on all of these lights! 🙏🔑✌️

Thanks for info, been running 1000w hps,Mh for years. Ready to give the leds a go

Thank you for hard work you done on model comparisons, I really appreciate it. It makes choosing the right light much easier.

Perfect timing Shane! I've noticed many, especially bar type fixtures, that have been coming out very quickly and priced extremely well. I love how even the canopy is with the fixtures that "require" CO2, but that's not in any immediate plans right now. Would these very even canopy spread fixtures, that put out these very high Umols all around very equally, be dimmed by 25-30% to get the extremely even canopy, but closer to the non CO2, around 1000 Umols, all around the canopy? Something I've been interested in knowing with these "too bright"(lol), unless using extra CO2. Would the canopy be perfect at a dimmed level? Thanks Shane. Your the best! 👍

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes you can do that and the efficiency will improve by about 5% if you run at 75% power👍

Tx Shane, that's alot of work, tx for sharing all that great information,

Just swapped to the ViparSpectra KS5000. On sale for $399. Best light owned so far.

Thanks a lot for the video, very helpful and detailed !!!

once again great info , im starting a 4x4 room so this definently helped

@chrisomaga5018

2 жыл бұрын

yeah honestly i only trust 2 people when it comes to a honest review on lights and this man hides nothing thank you for that.

@2aprogressive626

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisomaga5018 who’s the other?

@chrisomaga5018

2 жыл бұрын

@@2aprogressive626 Dr MJ Coco

Love the detailed information btw your lights look great keep up the hard work. Much love from Canada

Great knowledge thank you watching from New Zealand 🇳🇿 😀😊

I switched to the Aray 8 because of how consistent the output was from edge to edge compared to what I was using. I have not been disappointed. Great quality and performance.

@MIGROLIGHT

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear, Thanks.

@tthtonekid

10 ай бұрын

Definitely considering running the array 5x5 dimmed in my 4x4. Should last forever

Thank you for a great video. I am havjng troubke finding the Aray 8 pro on your website. 8:21 there is a 500w light. thanks in advance

Great work Shane as always. All of my fixtures except for one are yours. Your product nails the sweet spot every time. My only other brand fixture is the Chilled Tech Growcraft X600. I got greedy and wanted something with more ‘power’, so went this route for one 4x4. It’s too much for the space. It puts the whole tent/grow out of homeostasis by how much is pushes the limits. I wish I could preach to people how perfectly ‘balanced’ your light fixtures are. Truly genius engineering and the perfect blend of power/effectiveness/efficiency making for stress free runs. Will you be including Chilled Tech in more of your group/peer reviews? I rank Migro as #1 LED growlight manufacturer and Chilled Tech #2. Keep up the good work and thank you for everything you do for the industry.

@billyrobson9124

Жыл бұрын

Add co2 use that extra power for that light that plus good vpd you will crush with the more power

Thanks for that really helpful info brother I appreciate the tips. I’ve had a lot of anxiety 😟 in buying my light for this grow season.

I think that it's prefered to have a LED light that has a good amount of overhead so that they can be dimmed down. What I understood is that LED run more efficient when they run on 50% of their maximum capicity.

@dribblingdrooler3616

Жыл бұрын

And they last longer

I own the spider farmer 7000 do not run CO 2 growing marijuana in a 4 by 4 spider farmer tent no issues yet but only pushing 45 to 55%...... Oh yeah absolutely love it amazing perfect light easy to put together awesome Daisy chain system

@davidwatson1081

2 жыл бұрын

Are you in veg?

@jeremy87turbo87

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidwatson1081 That's correct from my understanding the light level should be lower during veg and flower definitely up a little bit more

@davidwatson1081

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremy87turbo87 have Max's out in flower with this light?

@jeremy87turbo87

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidwatson1081 Sir that's why I bought it I know a lot of commercial places use it my wife works for pretty much the biggest company in the US now because they've merged again That supplies dispensaries and they use the same lighting systems Just thousands of them.... I really wish I could put photos on here but you can't add photos with your mesage which kind of sucks

Viparspectra ks3000 Ks5000 ps2000 P600 All grow ok with veg, but flowering is slow and not overwhelming. Temp and air flow all good. So I'm still on the fence regarding viparspectra at present.

the top 2 were around 800w and got hung at 8 and 12 inches and produced around 1200 umols..yet bottom 3 on the the list was only 600w and got hung waaay further away at 17 inches and produced 1000...lets see them at the same height..the 600w will produce less heat so why have it further away than the 800w lights..8 inches is to get higher numbers in a hope you dont notice..or they would have been the same height..if anything the lower powered light would have been hung closer..

FWIW, In my 4' indoor garden, I'm using four 4' long LED shop lights from Harbor Freight and it's been working great. Cost $15 each. Admittedly, they're probably a few % less energy efficient. But for ~$800 less, I think it's worth it.

@greenmedgenetics

2 жыл бұрын

😅😅

@drimages1649

2 жыл бұрын

You could get a medic grow for less than that and crush it

@greenmedgenetics

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly I got five of them

@1wesleydb

2 жыл бұрын

They'll do good cloning or vegging plants, if you flower outside you won't need another light.

@hoesandhose

2 жыл бұрын

Its just a t5? Its not really a revelation, they are cheaper but weaker.

shane another awesome video brother thanks you are the best in the world on lights..😎

Thanks for always coming out with the info we want to know.

Math is a wonderful thing. 🙄😉 Great information. TY

you know migro is a company you can trust when they actually do tests encouraging other companies stuff also, i'm gonna check their site out just for that fact

I would like to see you test a medic grow light they have out on the market for a 4x4 tent.

@greenmedgenetics

2 жыл бұрын

drmjcoco did

U don’t really need to run co2 if you don’t have it. Raise the lights Please do a Sunsystem 1850 led review I have it and it’s completely crushing it

@Industrious420

2 жыл бұрын

(raise or dim)

My next set up will be with MIGRO ARAY 8 | 480W - 530W can't wait

What is going on here in the led world I have not looked at leds for years but what I can see is the wattage of the fixtures has gone through the roof and the price is sky high too what happened to the low wattage and reasonable prices. Good tip about the co2 I didn’t know that. I want to run 2 600w hps and 2 led’s in a 2.4 x 2.4 x 2.4 room I want to avoid using co2 but want the highest powered leds to cover the space

Thanks for the info.... Great, very informative and gives people a very good idea of what they may need to suit there budget. Excellent content !!!

Just got an ac infinity 4x4 so perfect video I used his last one got the p1000 good info

thank you, Shane for these awesome videos and content overall! greetings from Finland, my Friend!

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Nice list but wish you would’ve tested the geekbeast pro 630 with these!

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

The Geekbeast pro is a 5x5 light and will be in the next review

@HAPPYHERBS1

2 жыл бұрын

The plus may be a 5x5 light but everyone I know runs the pro In a 4x4 as the avg par is unmatched.

Blessings blessings to you your family and once you hold me dearest I can't stop thanking you for the 2 by 2 homemade LED grow lights sprouted photo sativa and indica 12/12 cycle and flip to flower success thank you so much

I know it's coming but I literally can't wait for the 5x5 video

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

Coming soon, thanks, Shane

Hello sir.I hope our company's new product can compare with them. I think it's more efficient to add extra UVA & IR

Can you make a test or add to your comparison kingbrite LED in the future ? There are few models (660W, 720W, 1000W) that look quite interesting and they are really professional. cheers !

@HAPPYHERBS1

2 жыл бұрын

Kingbrite, meijiu, bavagreen, 3 solid alibaba companies.

Even if Lumatek and Photontek are the last on the list, i would still buy those instead of Mars and Spider. Million times better quality.

@jhonwayne1003

2 жыл бұрын

I wish lumatek made a 4x2. So it just would fit right in peoples closet. I was going to do a 3x3 with the sq300 pro, just didn’t want a tent out in the open in my spare bedroom.

@dankabiskind6956

2 жыл бұрын

Rep from photontek was on a podcast and he talked of a strong single bar led coming out soon. Two of those will cover a 2x4 i hope.

@jhonwayne1003

2 жыл бұрын

@@dankabiskind6956 Where is this video at? When was this? I was going to by the X3 chilled tech bits it’s 729 bucks with a 60 day wait. They say it’s the best of the best for a 2x4

@HAPPYHERBS1

2 жыл бұрын

As someone with a bunch of lumateks, they aren't that great compared to a geekbeast or even an equivalent meijiu.

@HAPPYHERBS1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhonwayne1003 729 for a 2x4 light is straight up robbery

GLS pro grow 640?? I bought it on your recommendation

Would love to see fc 6500 par tests in a 4x4

I’m interested in the AC Infinity panel light for a 4 x 4. Why didn’t you cover it? Even with Mr. Grow It you didn’t talk about the S44 with Chris.

@MIGROLIGHT

6 ай бұрын

They have not sent me one for test. Ask AC Infinity to send me one for test.

Love your channel bro..... and updates on the 2023 models

@MIGROLIGHT

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Not sure if Shane has plans to do a 2023 chart but maybe he will.

So, Spider Farmer is still the best then... Right.? 🤷🏼‍♂️

The problem with grow lights is that most people grow 4 plants 2' on centre, but not one light is optimized that way.

Thanks for a realy good video. Keep up the good work

I wish migro would review some optic lights

Awesome 👌 Thank you for doing all the hard work for us sir.

Thanks for all this great info. I was wondering if a dimmed migro array 5x5 would run well in my 4x4. Definitely looks like it will fit. Just want a light i can use for many years and eventually in a larger grow space.

@MIGROLIGHT

10 ай бұрын

Hey, Yes you could run it a 80% power in a 4x4 Thanks

No geekbeast pro ? It's an amazing light. Literally the ultimate light for a 4x4 and under £600 delivered, weird it's not on the list.

Why were the top 2 on your list hung at 10 and 8 inch when tested? Need to get them to, or as close to 1000 in the middle like the rest.

@losanity

2 жыл бұрын

Because they both would win the whole chart athou they even better performing in 5x5'

Excellently made video. Thank you

I wish you could start selling them hooks it’s Such a game changer not having to run 4 hooks

So, which one is the best?

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, The are all good depending on your budget and requirements. Thanks.

being thinking about it for a while, just not sure were best to spend my money, what ive seen most important is lights, so not sure what to go for here, thinking has to be led with dwc system, so is it worth spending the money on a good light firstly, then good extractor and filter, this my first time an a start up, any help pointers or hints would be great, the more i can find out from people in the know, the better as just dont wanna waste money on junk on amazon as it never is what they state, so just gathering as much info as i can before i splash the cash and give it a go

good work as always, but i personally miss the sanlight setup in this comparison

How it's possible that Photontek measures are always lower than the companys data? 465w is 2.7 mmol. Same for 300 pro Shane data was lower too.

What about the grow light science 300s. Or the medicgrow, they are extremely good ppf per dollar

Migro es el campeón 🏆🏆🏆🇪🇸🇪🇸

I got a Mars FCE-4800 for 20% a few months ago on their Ebay store, it was a 24 hr deal. Got it for $356. Awesome LED, I just got my best yield to date..

@mickfitz76

2 жыл бұрын

Should have ponied up the extra cash and got the FC. The bridgelux lose LEDs after a year.

@tolksam1291

2 жыл бұрын

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@mickfitz76

2 жыл бұрын

@@tolksam1291 Yes. Don't buy FCE series. Pay more get FC

I,m tempted to get the Shamphon 480 watt six bar . Looks like a rebranded medic grow!!! There is a a unit with a dimmer and a version with a control unit that allows timer settings, shows watts, and a sunrise sunset feature. All for around $300!!!

7:20 Shane, why does the migro pro 4×4 have no far-red? From what I know for red is needed? so your cheaper 4×4 light is the better option?

Don't mess with Mars. They're smaller lights aren't bad but their big lights break super easy and their customer service is horrible!

Good video What if u put 2 Pandwillows built together in a 4×4 or 5×5 ?

Hi! Can I ask, what you think about the ac infinity ionframe evo 4 with 300w? Not for this tent of course 😁

Would love to know your thoughts on Gavita Ct 1930e . I been wanting to upgrade my de to these but can not find anyone really using them.

Shane, some of your charts confuse me, I don't understand why there's 800w lights and 400w lights in the same comparison video?

when you started making these light comparison videos many years ago, would you have ever thought that someday mars hydro is on the top of the board ?

@motonegros

Жыл бұрын

Mars was the king of Blurple back in the day.

Great video very informative , what is the best light for a 4by 4 tent at the high end level and cost for maximum results ?

Thanku for your help bossman

Love the video. I been following you for about 5 yrs. now I have a question when those lights are set with a set of blue and red . Growing cannabis during the flowering stage and wanting more trichome by adding more far reds. How are growers achievingthis if the light fixture is set to their the manufacturer. I use bulbs Like the ones you used building diy light fixture . The LEDs that I use has blue white and reds. Durring veg I use 2 different sets for large leafy plants mostly blue and white LEDs few reds 2nd set is for large plants and flowers. And when I'm in flowering I'll change the bulbs to flowering plants and I add more bulbs that's are more far reds. And my buds are frosty and good size. I did buy maxisun mf 1000. Spider farmer sf1000. My diy bulbs I have better results .

just came across your channel, bummer youtube didnt show this vid to me earlier while i was trying to figure out what light i wanted to buy. Ended up with the Mars hydro fc-e4800. After takin a quick look through your vids, I only see the mas hydro fc-4800 (samsung diodes) featured here... would you possibly have any interest in comparing the MH fc-4800 (samsung) with the MH fc-e4800 (bridgelux) version? Either way, amazing channel you have here! tons of great info, I have a lot to watch now :)

how come you don't test any HLG lights?

No Grow Light Science PROGROW 640?

Legend mate awesome work as per usual 🙏🏻

Enjoy your channel, was interested in the New AC Infinity Ionframe EVO6, they claim it's the most efficient LED on the market today, any chance you'll test this claim?

@MIGROLIGHT

Жыл бұрын

Hi, We will be testing it soon. Thanks.

Hey I think you missed 2 commas in the tittle. But great video comes at the perfekt time

Can you plug your splitter into the actual Box instead of running a chord 1st then a splitter then another splitter can you run one splitter off the Box to accord then to another splitter

I can't find the video you made comparing the best for 5x5

Nice information. Any reason you dont compare the Sanlight EVO ?

I would love to see you test spiderfarmer se3000 updated version, because its the entry level light for most growers friendly greetings smiley aquatics

Where does Volts VL-1 fit in this rating?

Hi, what about geekbeast pro and geekbeast mini? They seem to have great light spread. They also not that expensive

Got a bargain with the Lumatek 465 pro, on sale and with a code it cost me just £450. it just about fits in a 1x1m area. I like that its wall to wall light. As for electric loool 17p more like 28p kwh in two days. 12/12 for 1 month £50 up from about £30 a month 18/6 for 1 month £71 up from about £50 😭

@MIGROLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

I checked US, European and UK cost per KW hour and there is a wide range at the moment. If your energy prices are much higher than 17c/K"W hour than the more efficient the fixture the better👍

@marcosrotllan

2 жыл бұрын

Lumatek has too much red for growing, you cant turn off reds for growing

@Krone64

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MIGROLIGHT I bet this increase will push a lot more people outside. Just hope these prices do not become the norm and we someday see the price per kwh drop down again.

@Krone64

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcosrotllan The grow diary's I've seen online would suggest otherwise.

@twentytwo138

2 жыл бұрын

What efficiency does your Lumatek have? There are ranges from 2.3 to 2.9

dont want to be that guy, asking where his light is, but you tested the maxibright 480W pro, where is it?