Best value CITIZEN hands on: The Tsuyosa small seconds and the super titanium ‘Forza’ NJ0180
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Integrated bracelet watches are HOT. With the Tsuyosa line Citizen watches already had an affordable Rolex Oyster Perpetual in the collection and with the addition of the small seconds NK5010-51L and the new super titanium NJ0180 series I think they have a great Tissot PRX alternative in the ranks. I’m also getting some grand seiko vibes with those dials .. what do you think?
In this video i get hands on with both models in the collection to find out what there is to like or dislike about these... Things to know before you buy.
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Citizen Super Titanium Forza is Watch of the Year for the build quality, design and price point. Period.
@BowlOfSalmon
12 күн бұрын
might well be
You have me browsing for one of these! Lovely stuff Tom, appreciate your awesome videos 🙌🏻
@BowlOfSalmon
12 күн бұрын
Curious to see where I steered you …
These are solid, if imperfect releases from Citizen. It is exciting to see Citizen really enter the conversation with enthusiasts. I like the super titanium model, with green or blue being my favorites. The white dial is even nice (affordable Snowflake?), but the colors just offer a bit extra style. The clasp is disappointing, but not surprising considering the price and being from a larger brand. I have even seen the Tsuyosa small seconds on discount already. I'm sure the titanium model is not far behind and will become an even better deal in that case. I tried on a bunch of versions of the orignal Tsuyosa last year and was impressed for the money. I am definitely considering getting the titanium model. Thanks for putting these watches in your extremely well shot videos.
@BowlOfSalmon
7 күн бұрын
Agreeing to what you say. 🤛(Always easy to find citizen below the official prices. )
Was just looking at the forza today, love the video and thanks for the info!
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Thanks ! I only found out making the video the us is the only market that had the name Forza for it.
I saw your pics already on HF. I was looking forward to this vid. Perhaps, I grab one myself.
@Redondo_dom
13 күн бұрын
OF**
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Bedankt voor je tijd hier dan. Leuke dingen hoor voor deze prijs
I have tried on both. The blue one is brilliant when you are suitable for lighter coloured clothes, and super stylish with darker colour as well. The titanium looks quite dim and matt considering the outfits. So I think style wise, go for titanium if you are low profile; go for the steel version if you prefer a more exotic and unique dial. (I have always been wearing the most silm Citizen ecodrive watch, but the steel version doesn't weigh much on hand, which is a plus)
@RedwoodAggie
10 күн бұрын
Good points on the style of each. I like the blue, but worry it would be a bit bright and/or clashing with the other blues I typically wear. I think the blue on the titanium model might work better.
@alfredchen4579
10 күн бұрын
@RedwoodAggie yeah if you have other blues already, definitely no need to go for this one🙂
@BowlOfSalmon
7 күн бұрын
Sounds like a well thought out decision. ;)
Great video! I’ll have to try that titanium on. Looks really good
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Thx for your time here man 🙏
Awesome video! I will probably add the super titanium watch to collection in the near future. Might go for the eco-drive chrono though
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
The eco drives are cool. Maybe a little more reliable too
Another great review Tom! 👌🏻 I like the background music.
@BowlOfSalmon
11 күн бұрын
thanks ,, about the music: ? when you noticed it does that mean it was too loud ? :s
@iansegal
11 күн бұрын
@@BowlOfSalmon No not at all. It was a nice wallpaper tune to the edit.
The new titanium models are definitely the winners over the Tsuyosas. The hands on the steel models are just to skinny.
@BowlOfSalmon
14 күн бұрын
I have no complaints about the dials on tbh. Elegant. The titanium feels more original somehow
@Dialandhands
14 күн бұрын
@@BowlOfSalmon I love the dials. It’s just the hands on the steel tsuyosas. The titanium models definitely look the best and have proper hand proportions.
@samuelkim2611
11 күн бұрын
Strongly agreed !!!
@irvinnwin
10 күн бұрын
Do you think the Rolex datejust hands are too skinny?
@Dialandhands
8 күн бұрын
@@irvinnwin now that you point it out…yes😅😂
The success of Citizen Tsuyosa makes Citizen launch successors like Tsuyosa small second & Citizen Forza. Citizen just launching New Series 8 GMT with integrated bracelet likes Tsuyosa shape models. Maybe next Citizen should be release the Tsuyosa Diver. 👍👍👍
@BowlOfSalmon
4 күн бұрын
oee a diver .. that would be cool
The quality of these videos are insane!
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Thanx man
@Ibra-qv8ls
13 күн бұрын
You meant that the watches aren't that good LOL
I have the small seconds Tsuyosa in this blue. For my 7.5" wrist, it fits PERFECTLY. Well balanced and the blue is incredible. It really is the perfect shade. It seems to go with everything as the blue has some green in it. I wear a lot of blue in my clothing and no matter if it's royal, sky, dark or light blue, casual or dressy, it just works.
@derbagger22
14 күн бұрын
Also, getting your fingers on the crown when it's out isn't too bad. If I just need to wind it, I just rub my finger against the underneath of the crown and wind it with that one finger. Much easier and fewer scratches on the case, over time.
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing! The blue is incredible. Tried any other straps for it yet ?
@derbagger22
13 күн бұрын
@@BowlOfSalmon not yet. The blue leather strap citizen makes for it looks good.
You know what. I’m really starting to like this bowl of salmon guy! The Ti looks great also! Citizen is killing it in this price range!
@BowlOfSalmon
10 күн бұрын
Lol. Thx
I tried them both at the boutique and I totally agree with your conclusions, the Tsuyosa looks great but feels too hefty and bulky on the wrist when the super Titanium wears better being lighter, and I do prefer its dial pattern, so I bought a Super Titanium for a close friend's birthday and for myself you would ask? I bought the new Seiko 5 SNXS which has kind of the same bracelet, which I do really like, than the Tsuyosa and being smaller is way more confortable on the wrist, which makes it IMO the perfect summer watch I was looking for.
@BowlOfSalmon
14 күн бұрын
The tsuysa should be fun with a good rubber strap. It’s not a bad watch. Not at all. But I guess I just wanted the total Package to be a a good as the dials look. Or something like that. 😅
@BowlOfSalmon
14 күн бұрын
Thx for watching btw !
A great video Tom! Both look amazing, but I think I’d choose the titanium. Really love that case and agree, the clasp could have used more love, but not a huge deal breaker. Cheers!!
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Thx J. Not a deal breaker at this price point. Just parts of me who wishes they would totally knock it out of the park
@timepeacelove5837
11 күн бұрын
@@BowlOfSalmon Anytime! Yes I know, with just a tiny bit more effort and $ spent, it could have fully delivered
Really nice looking watches!
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Something there to appeal to a lot of ppl
Both watches are just 2-3mm too big. Hopefully they offer more sizes in the future
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
But do try the forza. Wears a little smaller than size suggests.
Would definitely take the solar quartz version.
Weird choice for the super Forza to go with the lower grade movement and the same stamped clasp as the basic tsuyosa.. actually makes the tsuyosa small seconds more compelling with current discounts imo
@BowlOfSalmon
7 күн бұрын
Maybe that’s the idea. Idk.
@What_is_ai_anyway
7 күн бұрын
@@BowlOfSalmonCouldn’t figure it out so I got both 😅
Good stuff as ever Tom. The offset small seconds on the Titanium appeals to me but a couple of negatives do not. I like to feel that I have something on the wrist and the only Titanium watch that actually does is a ruddy joke , yes the Rolex Deep Sea Challenge !. Personally I think it would look better sans date as the proximity to the sub seconds looks a tad cluttered. So in stainless minus the date I would probably give it whirl as for the money Citizen have been releasing some pretty good affordable pieces of late.
@BowlOfSalmon
7 күн бұрын
Personal tastes. I got used to it. And learned to love it rather quickly.
I hope some company out there will make a better bracelet upgrade for this watch then it will be perfect
@BowlOfSalmon
7 күн бұрын
Bracelet. Not sure. But rubber straps , they will jump on it I’m sure
Looking for more colors to come out in the US market.
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Undoubtedly. What model are you eyeing most ?
If only the colour matched the date wheel 😫
@BowlOfSalmon
14 күн бұрын
There is a white dial …
Citizen have replaced seiko in the entry level for me, including the pro master series. Looks great,very good entry level movements at a great price. I can easily forgive the bracelets, they had to save somewhere. I might just swap my blue tsuyosa for the new ti model…
@BowlOfSalmon
12 күн бұрын
there is a lot of truth in this
Where can i buy it in the US?
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Google will help ;)
I will be perfect if its eco drive and 37mm bezel
@jamest6373
11 күн бұрын
They do an eco drive version at 39mm! Look it up
€379 and €429
@BowlOfSalmon
12 күн бұрын
True. But I usually don’t mention exact prices because they are outdated fast
@user-yu1pm9vj8j
12 күн бұрын
@@BowlOfSalmon I mention them because people want to know.
Even i can afford to buy luxury watches...i always choose tactical watches..
@BowlOfSalmon
2 күн бұрын
i tend to lean towards tools a lot too
That’s not my cup of tea or rather go for tissot PRX
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
I get that. I think The tissot prx is great and perhaps a safer design overall to appeal to more
its okay but its not a Seiko turtle.
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
That’s an icon for seiko
nice watch i love it ... but intergrated bracelet i hate it .. will not buy one cheers
@BowlOfSalmon
13 күн бұрын
Fun to change it up once in a while ? Aftermarket bracelets will come
That really is a shame about the clasp on the titanium. It does look cheap. I was gonna run out and grab one but maybe gotta think about it now
@BowlOfSalmon
12 күн бұрын
True but again. They had to cut a corner somewhere I suppose. Still a solid new line
@electricjoshaloo
12 күн бұрын
yeah for sure...great looking watches for the price. I want one.