BEST Turbo Upgrades for Detroit Series 60 12.7 and 14 Liter

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Looking for turbo upgrade options on your Detroit Series 60 engine? We break down the common turbo upgrades and talk about which options would make a good upgrade on YOUR series 60 engine!
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  • @damonhuberty3696
    @damonhuberty369611 ай бұрын

    Year 2000 BK at 525hp+ with 171702 with high flow exhaust from end-to-end, dual mufflers, w/ turbo blanket. Run 1200-1400 rpm 98% of the time and pull grades at 1300 rpm. Spool is not to bad but opening up exhaust is a must. Summer IFTA 7.5mpg 78k back-and-forth over divide. 61mph. Goal is fuel economy; I run slow in the flats and pull long grades in the torque band. The slightly bigger turbo helps on both points at the expense of responsiveness but with exaust mods its not bad. On grades truck pulls down to 1150rpm & 20psi really helping to hold the gear and enable low rpm shifts. When hot on a grade with the blanket it spools back quick between shifts. EGTs 950F+ though if pulling in 1100 rpm range. Cold spooling below 1200 rpm takes forever. But I'm a slug and tunnel vision on high IFTA with lots of mountain miles for OTR.

  • @dudarewaleriy4225

    @dudarewaleriy4225

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm new to the terminology you are using. I would appreciate if you could explain what does "high flow exhaust from end-to-end" / "opening up exhaust is a must" mean? I have 97 60 12.7 / 500 hp with a $280+ stock turbo from JMT that wouldn't go over 21psi before I did a custom reflash in Houston tuning shop that raised turbo to 31 psi . Sitting on a fence thinking what turbo to buy: same stock, k31 or 1702? Any information will be highly appreciated

  • @cargotoolshop5319

    @cargotoolshop5319

    8 ай бұрын

    The real gain to the 171702 is no waste gate, it does lack a little of low end power, bought my turbo from highway and heavy parts, interstate MC bee $504 it was a good increase over factory, also put in 5195 injectors, large 8 hole, keeps the EGT down by spraying the piston with fuel, works great, but my fuel mileage is not great, but I run over the road and I push it hard pulling 80,000# all the time

  • @ales6434
    @ales6434 Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @nigelgina
    @nigelgina Жыл бұрын

    I just put the Sx on my 825 marine motor, it works better then my old billlet wheel S475. lower egts, and I picked up nearly 15hp at the back wheels with no fuel changes, now currently running 621hp at the wheels.

  • @Whistler42
    @Whistler42 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you this is exactly the information I was looking for! So with 5915 injectors, a marine cam, and a “550” tune that’s running +7 in a truck that is running long haul 80k lbs would the 11 blade house turbo be the recommended one?

  • @cargotoolshop5319
    @cargotoolshop53198 ай бұрын

    Yes sir, I have a 171702 from interstate MC bee, it was $504, it works great but can see where it lags on low end power, it's an 12.7 with factory 500hp and 1650tq tune with 5195 injectors which are 10%over for my tune, it runs hard if I'm about 1600rpm's

  • @gemcitylord4037
    @gemcitylord4037 Жыл бұрын

    14 liter 500 hp stock injectors 12.7 exhaust manifold. With k31 is lit 🔥. So cheap you can carry a spare turbo with ya. Enjoy.

  • @RocSteadyNY

    @RocSteadyNY

    11 ай бұрын

    Did you tune it? Or just bolt on?

  • @gemcitylord4037

    @gemcitylord4037

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes I used a remote programmer literally took him 20 minutes to change my truck.

  • @TYDESTINY185

    @TYDESTINY185

    2 ай бұрын

    Which programmer are you using?

  • @AA-hy3xs
    @AA-hy3xs9 ай бұрын

    Nice video Which one fits a serie 60 12,7litter Frht century with 600hp? Thank you! How much $ will cost?

  • @parkerkimber2446
    @parkerkimber244610 ай бұрын

    What is your recommendation for a 11.1L Series 60? Stock just looking to help her breathe a little better.

  • @mikenicholson2548
    @mikenicholson25485 ай бұрын

    What would you recommend for a CFM 570 cumminns 500 to 600 horse switching to T6 flange.

  • @keontayrhone8596
    @keontayrhone85965 ай бұрын

    How about a freightliner cascadia dd13? My current turbo is shot and I think I should upgrade it rather than replace it.

  • @jamesepling2557
    @jamesepling2557 Жыл бұрын

    I'm running the following Late model 6067PK60 DDEC4 16.5:1 Monotherm piston 23524912 camshaft 5915 injectors 15% over on the peddle 25% on cruise Garbage truck yokes and driveline 2500 torque clutch Full tilt manifold Bulldog stage 1 turbo Custom made Head studs 650hp/2050 torque My question is simple, since I wasted 2200.00 on Pittsburgh Power's big turbo What do you recommend? I'm about to compound it, or buy a switchblade.

  • @josephsteeleiv5069
    @josephsteeleiv506910 ай бұрын

    I have a stock 12.7 w/egr. Can I still use the k31?

  • @tjclark5848
    @tjclark5848 Жыл бұрын

    I have a no egr 14.0L engine where do I get it rebuilt to handle 700hp turbo on crazy hand welded header for series 60. Get you the name

  • @stevenguthrie2835
    @stevenguthrie28353 ай бұрын

    I'm looking to do and engine build 12.7 1998 through 2000 so what do you recommend for a daily driver with a combination of great horsepower with efficiency. So what Cam, Injectors, Manifold, Turbo, Air to Air Charger setup. I stay under 80,000 lbs . I run from Texas to Pacific Northwest. So mountains. I currently have MX13 Paccar, 18 speed, T680 kenworth but I'm doing engine glider kit swap. Any advice is appreciated in advance Thanks

  • @tjclark5848
    @tjclark5848 Жыл бұрын

    Which year and size series 60 is the best to start with

  • @alexbill2746
    @alexbill2746 Жыл бұрын

    thank u👏🙏

  • @edgarmartinezsalvador2197
    @edgarmartinezsalvador2197 Жыл бұрын

    Hi there! I have an old S60 11.1 wich is getting rebuild at the moment. Wich turbo would you recommend to upgrade. Looking for better performance since it was a bit slow uphill. Rears are 3.07 ( 14.47 ) and 10 speed transmission.

  • @truckingjamaicans5045

    @truckingjamaicans5045

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude I'd say k31 on that small 11.1

  • @warriorman547
    @warriorman547 Жыл бұрын

    Whats recommended for DDEC IV 14l non egr set at 550 currently. would like 650-700 in the future. Thinking the 76mm

  • @RocSteadyNY

    @RocSteadyNY

    11 ай бұрын

    Did you figure it out?

  • @tjclark5848
    @tjclark5848 Жыл бұрын

    Can you build an engine that will handle the biggest turbo and maintain reliability

  • @jasonrobbins74
    @jasonrobbins74 Жыл бұрын

    What is an example of Fueling up grade on 12.7 for the 11 blade s475? 20% over stock?

  • @dmitrygrigoruk3405

    @dmitrygrigoruk3405

    Жыл бұрын

    5% over stock and it will fly

  • @TheKidlyfe
    @TheKidlyfe Жыл бұрын

    Can do this for mbn motor for cat and c15 acert

  • @dayanacastillogomez7286
    @dayanacastillogomez7286 Жыл бұрын

    somebody told me that a 1.15 ar is too short fro a 14L S60 515hp. but I'm having troubles with the 171702 with stock 515hp. ill definitely order a K31 ASAP

  • @Jr21001

    @Jr21001

    Жыл бұрын

    How it works for you

  • @carmello000jp

    @carmello000jp

    Жыл бұрын

    Get more fuel in it with your tune

  • @kimberlyking6229

    @kimberlyking6229

    Жыл бұрын

    Wrong tune

  • @StuFletch68
    @StuFletch6810 ай бұрын

    why are compounds not found on Detroit's?

  • @psrpulsarturbosytems1339
    @psrpulsarturbosytems1339 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't the S410SX journal bearing slightly longer than the std S400 ones? Correct me if I'm wrong😀

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    close, but the journal bearings are indeed the same. they're just set in a wider spacing in the S410SX housing

  • @ciaranbrennan16
    @ciaranbrennan16 Жыл бұрын

    Whats the thrust thing?

  • @beamerzboyzclub9270
    @beamerzboyzclub92704 күн бұрын

    Hey bud . For a Detroit s60 14 liter 2009 what turbo do u recommend ? I’m running k31 now but I would like more boost /power . Engine is 500-525 hp

  • @michaelbundy3506
    @michaelbundy3506 Жыл бұрын

    Im running a 12.7L bk with 7014 injectors, full tilt manifold and a 550hp tune from Brent. I took a 1702 turbo and stuck a 1.15 exhaust housing on it. Was wondering what your opinion is on that setup.

  • @achaosg

    @achaosg

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm looking at buying one right now with 12.7L, 800 Marine Cam, 7014 Injectors, Stainless Manifold, 78mm Turbo dyno and tuned for 650hp

  • @RocSteadyNY

    @RocSteadyNY

    11 ай бұрын

    How does it run with that 1.15 housing?

  • @jabarimckinsey981
    @jabarimckinsey98111 ай бұрын

    When you say mods, what exactly do you mean?

  • @RocSteadyNY
    @RocSteadyNY9 ай бұрын

    So what about the Garrett GT4708?

  • @armin041590
    @armin041590Ай бұрын

    QUESTION? 2005 COLUMBIA WITH A 60 SERIES DDEC6 HAD THE EGR I DELETED IT AND HAD IT TUNED TO 500+ HP. WHICH TURBO WOULD I CHOOSE FOR THE BEST FUEL MILAGE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW I DID NOT UPDATE INJECTORS OR ANYRHING JUST RUNNING STOCK WITH DELETED EGR AND HP FROM 455 TO 500

  • @juanlira1703
    @juanlira1703 Жыл бұрын

    Hey momentum worx I have a Detroit 60 series but with a turbo borgwarner 171701 but the response time is kinda of slow will it be better if I upgrade to a 171702??

  • @brandonquick1024

    @brandonquick1024

    Жыл бұрын

    No. The 701 spools quicker than the 702 unless your engine has been tuned…

  • @mackenziesibley7025
    @mackenziesibley7025 Жыл бұрын

    What about a upgraded turbo for an n14 I'm running a stock 525 now and trying for 2050 torque

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    momentumworx.com/momentum-worx-cummins-n14-turbo-upgrade-in-stock/

  • @sbacon67CTD
    @sbacon67CTD Жыл бұрын

    Cummins later ISX upgrades? What’s the specs on the ISX 451ve and 561ve would the 561ve be a upgrade for the 2250 2350 to keep the VGT

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    depends on which 451 and which 561 we are comparing, they both come in different sizes. If you are hell bent on upgrading the VGT on a single cam, I would recommend just having your 451 modified with larger wheels.

  • @sbacon67CTD

    @sbacon67CTD

    Жыл бұрын

    @@momentumworx I don’t know the sizes of the 561 I have the 67mm 451 now. Not hell bent on anything just like to know.everyone’s input

  • @timburton409
    @timburton409 Жыл бұрын

    C12 discussion next? Lol😂

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea, let me do some research on this one and I will try to put something together.

  • @javonbell4166
    @javonbell4166 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2009 14liter. I had the dpf and egr deleted. What size turbo will be good to add more power

  • @javonbell4166

    @javonbell4166

    Жыл бұрын

    Also what is a lightly modified truck in your opinion

  • @dmitrygrigoruk3405
    @dmitrygrigoruk3405 Жыл бұрын

    Watt is the difference between your k31 and the Zeki k31 hybrid turbo you did not include that in the video

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    The Zeki K31/GT43 hybrid is a GT42 frame turbo with a billet wheel (like the K31). This turbo was not included in the comparison because we can only cover so many turbos in one shot. This is a solid option and very much comparable with a K31 for the sake of comparison.

  • @ramirovargas4823
    @ramirovargas4823 Жыл бұрын

    Hi. My name is Ramiro. I have 2009 S60 14L Detroit. I did the cancellation on the EGR and all the staff. I got some Chinese torvo and is working but take to long to the engine pic up I wander if you can tell what turvo be best for my engine?

  • @johncalvo1743

    @johncalvo1743

    Жыл бұрын

    Hola Ramiro. I have the same engine on my 2009 Columbia. Did you find out what the problem was?

  • @henrygarcia7367

    @henrygarcia7367

    2 ай бұрын

    I have an 07 classis with a egr 14 litter detroit, I deleted the egr and replaced the turbo with the borg warner K31 turbo, the part number is 171743, it is the best turbo to keep it stock, meaning you don't have to upgrade injectors ir anything, I did though replace the manifold with the ceramic coated high performance manifold. It works great with that set up.

  • @edantonuk690
    @edantonuk690 Жыл бұрын

    Just seeing this what is the best for stock 60 series 12.7 455 hp ?? Trk stop an go 66,000 gross Thank you

  • @truckingjamaicans5045

    @truckingjamaicans5045

    Жыл бұрын

    K31

  • @farminindiana7590
    @farminindiana7590 Жыл бұрын

    Got a ddec4 set at 500 with a full tilt manifold. The stock garret turbo let go. It doesn’t respond very good with a 171702 turbo. Would a 171701 work better

  • @truckingjamaicans5045

    @truckingjamaicans5045

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea my dad 430 has a 171701 n it spools a lil quick 171702 spool slow on a 12.7

  • @farminindiana7590

    @farminindiana7590

    Жыл бұрын

    @@truckingjamaicans5045 stuck with the 171702 turbo and had some custom tuning done. Now it’s as responsive as it was with the stock turbo. Runs cooler. Lots more power

  • @vroor32

    @vroor32

    Жыл бұрын

    @@farminindiana7590 what tune did you get and where did u get it? I have. 12.7 with a 171702 and it does feel sluggish

  • @farminindiana7590

    @farminindiana7590

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vroor32 serious series 60 performance. Love it Sent my ecm to them. Wish I would have done it a long time ago

  • @clifftonarnold6989

    @clifftonarnold6989

    Жыл бұрын

    @@farminindiana7590 how much was the tune from them?

  • @henryhughes222
    @henryhughes222 Жыл бұрын

    I just have a stock 12.7 what turbo I would need and price

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    172743 - see our website for latest pricing

  • @shellzbizz4594
    @shellzbizz4594 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 14l set at 60hp...I'm currently running the s400 but I am interested in getting the s410sx.. currently the s400 feels a bit laggy so I'm wondering if the s410sx would better support the tune

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    S410SX will have even more lag then the S400 on that setup. You need to go down in size, not up. A K31 would likely be a great choice for you.

  • @benitomojarro3134

    @benitomojarro3134

    Жыл бұрын

    @@momentumworx hello great video can u help please,i have a 2006 columbia series 60 14.0 liter with deleted egr and vgt what would be the best turbo for my setup also would it be best to do a muffler delete

  • @DOAN1000

    @DOAN1000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@benitomojarro3134if you got a deleted set up go with the 12.7 turbo . It’s a banger

  • @RocSteadyNY

    @RocSteadyNY

    11 ай бұрын

    @@benitomojarro3134tune it throw on a 702 inch.32 housing it is what I gave. Turbo spoils at like 1100-1300 and pulls from there. I’m interested to see how the K31 does. Or put a 68-80mm with a 1.15 housing

  • @thodge4375

    @thodge4375

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@RocSteadyNY you know alot. Did you ever get the results on the k31

  • @zaidchalabi1599
    @zaidchalabi1599 Жыл бұрын

    what is “ throw alot of fuel at it” ?

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    more aggressive fuel mapping via larger injectors or file

  • @viton9069
    @viton9069 Жыл бұрын

    So I Can upgrade the 14L with the k31 turbo? Or is that only for 12.7 ?

  • @nathanielcrowder1978

    @nathanielcrowder1978

    Жыл бұрын

    Way to small for a 14 liter motor

  • @henrygarcia7367

    @henrygarcia7367

    Жыл бұрын

    I deleted the egr on my 14 litter, the guy wo did the delete told me the truck would not run as it should until I replaced the turbo with a 12.7 turbo. I am looking at a kit right now for a little over 2k with a borg warner K31 which is the one ge is recommending for a stock motor.

  • @viton9069

    @viton9069

    Жыл бұрын

    @@henrygarcia7367 let me know how it pulls compared to stock turbo.

  • @thebeardedredman6333
    @thebeardedredman6333 Жыл бұрын

    borgworn s475 best 450 to 650

  • @eddiepacheco7885
    @eddiepacheco7885 Жыл бұрын

    Where can i find your in-house turbo?

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    momentumworx.com/11-blade-billet-wheel-s475-t6-turbo-75-96-1-32-a-r/

  • @nnaranbayarnn
    @nnaranbayarnn Жыл бұрын

    Detoit 60 12.7 500hp wich turbo best and stong please tell me ?

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    Looks like you're on the right video! I'd go with the K31 based on the info you provided

  • @nnaranbayarnn

    @nnaranbayarnn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@momentumworx thank you k31 parts number 172743 right? Also how can buy do you now site link

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nnaranbayarnn momentumworx.com/new-borg-warner-k31-172743-series-60-c12/

  • @nnaranbayarnn

    @nnaranbayarnn

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you i can see web site cross reference number but don’t have correct number i can use now Garrett 466713 -9005s also ican see 171702 have this number what you think still k31 okay? My engine 1997 detroit 60 12.7 hp 550

  • @nnaranbayarnn

    @nnaranbayarnn

    Жыл бұрын

    I have Garrett 466713-9005s this turbo max 22psi that is normal or bad because my truck lose power i can try to swap new turbo do yu now k31 how many psi boost

  • @leavitttrucking1
    @leavitttrucking16 ай бұрын

    I have a stock 60 series 12.7 l Detroit. What can I run to get more horse power without running fuel mileage

  • @pd101
    @pd101 Жыл бұрын

    Would it be possible to put these on a 6.0 ls? Lol

  • @momentumworx

    @momentumworx

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure, lots of folks use S400 based turbos on LS applications.

  • @dogan0677
    @dogan0677 Жыл бұрын

    How much hp is the K31 good for?

  • @matthiggins4965

    @matthiggins4965

    Жыл бұрын

    500hp

  • @bill2178

    @bill2178

    5 ай бұрын

    550

  • @franciscoaguirre6402
    @franciscoaguirre6402 Жыл бұрын

    Wastegated vs non-wastegated? Help

  • @bill2178

    @bill2178

    5 ай бұрын

    always use a wastegated even with 171702 a wastegated turbo will last twice as long if its setup properly

  • @OlegFL2010
    @OlegFL2010 Жыл бұрын

    So your prices were already 5-7% higher than average & now additional 15%went up right before the Black Friday 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @victoralvarez2739
    @victoralvarez2739 Жыл бұрын

    I got a 14L converted to 12.7 550hp fresh inframe going with the 171702.. We’ll see how she pulls on a grade 🥃

  • @Jr21001

    @Jr21001

    Жыл бұрын

    How is it

  • @victoralvarez2739

    @victoralvarez2739

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jr21001 man, I love it! Has more power and I pulls thru grades no prob! She is a beast brotha!

  • @victoralvarez2739

    @victoralvarez2739

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jr21001 & the turbo is about 1k, way cheaper than 14l turbo

  • @xavierdean4673

    @xavierdean4673

    Жыл бұрын

    @@victoralvarez2739 how do you like the 171702 turbo?

  • @victoralvarez2739

    @victoralvarez2739

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xavierdean4673 she’s a beast! But get the truck tuned and deleted..

  • @marioatrucking
    @marioatrucking Жыл бұрын

    I have the sxe480 from u guys and going to compound that I to sxe500 . Yikes

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