What is the favourite everyday lens for your Sony?

@fromia1

3 ай бұрын

It's the FE 20-70mm f4 for me.

@dannyyoung5072

3 ай бұрын

A little different Rich, Sony 200-600 is my walk around lens mate.

@ernesttiki283

3 ай бұрын

this new 24-50G looks good to me.

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

@dannyyoung5072 wow! 200-600 for walk around! You must have strong arm and back Danny!

@tonyhafaka3524

3 ай бұрын

FE 50 1.4

Thank you for giving the time and taking the trouble to unravel the differences and outline the pros and cons between these offerings from Sony. We are indeed spoilt for choice. Unless shooting portraits or single subjects on the move, I rarely shoot wider than F4. The 20-70mm is a perfect walkaround for me.

Wow - what a fantastic, complete review! This new 24-50 pairs soooo well with the new A7Cx bodies. And for those of us that hate switching lenses, it's the perfect solution to the 24/35/50 conundrum. I'll be picking up my copy later this week!

What a video! Exactly what I was looking for. I own the 20-70 but boy is this lens tempting as a compact evening zoom. Thanks so much for the comparisons Richard!

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

AB, glad it was helpful! Thanks for your support and commenting! :)

I'm interested in this lens. It's a great review! Really objective and balanced. Must be a lot of work thank you!

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yes a lot of work but worth it if you guys found it useful

Awesome in depth video Richard!

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Piotr 👍

Great review as usual Richard! You should do more Sony gear reviews!

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes now I upgraded my Sony body, definitely more to come!

I have a bunch of GMaster and Sigma Art primes as well as the Sony 24-70GMII and the Tamron 35-150. I shoot mostly dance events where the light is extremely poor and the subjects are moving quickly. I recently purchased the A7C II as a travel/backup camera and I have been very unsure about what lens to buy for travel. I would have condered a crop sensor e-mount camera, but Sonys current APS-C cameras are all the same size as these full frame A7C cameras, so there is no longer a size difference. Although the Tamron zoom has a focal length that is very useful, it is so heavy that I never use it. I am condering lenses that are at least F2.8 and small. I considered this sony 24-50 but even though it is small-ish, it is hardly discrete, in the way that fixed lens rangefinders are. The other slightly more discrete options are the Sony pancake trio - 24 F2.8, 40 F2.5 and 50mm F2.5 G lenses. I don’t find the 24-70 heavy, but these are fairly bulky lenses and their size draws a lot of attention compared to shooting with something like an RX100.

Having other lenses included for comparison in this review (as in your Laowa 10mm review) adds really helpful context to your reviews. The fact all three lenses are tested under the same rigorous conditions significantly improves my confidence in your findings. Personally I value the greater zoom ratio of the 20-70/4. If large apertures are required then primes are a better fit for that.

@ernesttiki283

3 ай бұрын

yes agree. This kind of review and comparisons make it the most useful 24-50G review on youtube so far.

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

@Bayonet1809 thank you so much! The biggest downside doing comparison reviews is that for every lens I add to the comparison, that will pretty much double the amount of time/work required. But really glad to hear you found it useful :)

@Bayonet1809

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWongI do understand that it is a lot more work for you, but I just wanted to say that I very much appreciate that extra effort.

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much @@Bayonet1809 ! Really appreciate your support and commenting regularly on my videos. :)

Fantastic review!

Very fair and unbiased review, finally a review of the 2450G I can trust. Looking forward to see more Sony reviews from you! btw the little Insta360 camera is not bad, a bit noisy but still watchable.

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thank you Tony! Yes I will see if I can do more Sony reviews. I have a lot of similar requests from my viewers. Now I've finally upgraded my Sony body so I would love to do more! i'm quite happy with the videos from the little Go3. The picture quality is far from perfect, but its compact size really allows me to capture video footage I previously wasn't able to with any of my other bigger camera.

Bravo, a great lens comparison, thank you. I own both the new compact “C” A7CR and A7CII that I travel with and the A7RV and A1 I use for wildlife, BIF, and events up till now and already own the GM II zoom trinity. I’ve been looking at the new 24-50/2.8 G and had not bought the 20-70/4. So if I decide to buy a Sony compact zoom these are the two choices I’m considering. I also did find a mint used Sigma 28-70/2.8 which weighs only 470 grams which you might look at. Is about 2/3 the price and I’ve used it with my 20/1.8 G and its companion 16-28/2.8 DG DN Contemporary that weighs 450 grams. Lots of choices and you covered them in a great way. Take care.

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Steven! And wow you have a lot of Sony bodies!

@bobstevens5202

14 күн бұрын

I also am considering buying a a7c ii. Do you think the 24-70 gm ii is too heavy to use?

@TheRealRichardWong

14 күн бұрын

@@bobstevens5202 it works OK for my a7cr with the official grip.

@stevenwaldstein2249

14 күн бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong For some the grip extension maybe key. I luckily found a used grip for a reduced price so I have the same grip on both my A7CII and A7CR.

Great video Richard! I've been contemplating this 24-50 as an alternative to 24 and 50 compact G primes for A7cii. The beauty as you point out, it gives you both of those and puts a 28 and a 35 on your camera as well., and no lens switching. The downside is the weight hanging out the front, those compact primes are really nice in the handling department. Can you comment on that?

@TheRealRichardWong

2 ай бұрын

The prime is definitely smaller and lighter, but the 24-50 is not too bad, feels a lot better than the 24-70 GMII

I have the Tamron 28-75F2.8 first gen. It's not wide enough for one lens solution. I enjoy the Sony 20-70F4 G lens for day travel and will be getting the Sony 24-50F2.8 G lens for one lens for day to night travel. It's amazingly small for a 2.8 zoom lens. Will pair it with the 85F1.8 and 20F1.8 G lens when I need longer or wider FLs.

Great review. My usual walkabout general purpose lens is the fe35mm f/1.8. As back up I usual carry as well either an fe20mm f/1.8, or if portraits are a possibility then an fe85mm f/1.8, instead. Over the past 12 months I've found I've used the 85mm less than the 20mm, so on reflection I'd probably choose the fe20-70mm f/4 and possibly sell the fe20mm f/1.8 & when needed keep the 85mm f/1.8 as back-up. In any case I suspect if I was travelling light with just one lens the fe35mm f/1.8 would still remain my favourite option. Thanks again for a very informative video. (PS. Your night time shots reaffirmed my belief that a more focussed, ie. longer focal length lens, with a wider maximum aperture is more useful in these situations - hence the retention of my fe85mm f/1.8, rather than the fe20mm f/1.8.)

@TheRealRichardWong

Ай бұрын

thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts John!

wow, what a great review!!

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching :)

As a prime user 98% of the time, I would probably buy the 20-70mm f4 if I had to choose.

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Yes it makes sense if you already have a few primes, you would get something with wider focal length range as a complementary option

I have the 24-70gm ii might go with the Sony 20-70mm f4 as a compliment 😊

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

I would do the same myself if i already have the 24-70 GMII!

sony options are amazing. depends on your pref. weight, size, quality, functions.

Good review. Would it be fair to say that the 24-50 is actually two lenses in one on the A7CR? That is, a FF 24-50 F2.8 and also a 50-75 with APSC crop? Thereby making it arguably a 24-75?

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Yeah on a high resolution camera like a7cr , you can crop a lot and still get a lot of resolution left

Thanks for the good video. I plan to buy the ZV-E1 and this would be a perfect match talking about the size. Im thinking to buy either the 24-50mm or the 24mm f1.4 GM. Almost same size and weight and similiar market price. The question is if there is a huge difference in sharpeness at 24mm between these lenses? What do you think? BTW greetings from Germany :)

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

I have not really tested the 24 f/1.4 GM, but from what I read/heard that is a great lens. And it is also 2 stops faster so quite a big difference to the 24-50. I think you really just have to decide if you want a zoom or prime.

Richard, great review, I am trying to decide between these three lenses, really hard decision, your video is a lot of help, I am considering actually two options : 1) Buy the 24-70 GMII or 2) You can actually buy the 20-70 and 24-50 for the same price, I would use the 20-70 on good light condition and the 24-50 when limited , I would be using them with a A7RV or ACII ..........I am not. pro, so, not really sure if the IQ difference between the GM and the Gs in this case would make that much of a difference ........would this make sense if you are willing to fork $2,300 ?.......if option 2 is too crazy (I need to convince myself that it is) .....I am actually leaning towards the 20-70, I have the 24, 35 ns 50 1.4 GMs to complement this F4 ........any thoughts ?......just subscribed to your channel .....

@TheRealRichardWong

2 ай бұрын

To be honest, the image quality difference when shooting in real world isn't that big a difference to me. So I would choose one that is most suitable to your shooting style instead. I would only pick one of the 24-50 or 20-70 because I feel they do overlap quite a bit, you will unlikely bring both lenses with you so pick one you feel works the best. Since you already have those f/1.4 primes, the 20-70 would be what I choose myself. Thanks for the sub

@erg1450

2 ай бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong Thank you for the feedback Richard, I am also leaning towards the 20-70, the older I get the harder is to carry big heavy lense

I love almost everything about the 24-50mm. The only thing I dislike is that it’s physically longer at 24mm.

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

yes it really confused me quite a bit. But i think eventually you will get used to it. A lot of ultra wide angle lens does the same thing

@ABP8214

3 ай бұрын

The 28-70 kit lens does the same thing. It gets longer at the wide end. This is no different.

These new lightweight compact lenses Sony is coming out with is exciting. I have the 20-70 f4 and absolutely love it. Might have to part with the 24-105 f4. It's heavy and not as versatile. Even the 16-35 f4 G PZ lens is amazing. If I didn't have these two lenses, then the 24-50 f2.8 would be attached to my A7CR. It's no wonder there are influencers hating Sony knowing the Sony eco system is incredible. If Sony doesn't make it, Sigma or Tamron will fill in the gaps. In the stranger than fiction segment, companies in China will make it, like fisheye lens/tilt lens. Good review. BTW. Keep your eye on the road and drive safely. Old Asian ladies are passing you to your right and left.

@TheRealRichardWong

2 ай бұрын

thanks for watching and glad you like it. And thanks for the reminder about road safety.

As a 20-70 f4 owner this was a great comparison. Everything you said about the 20-70 I agree with. I also find that I do use the 20mm a lot and 70mm as well. Sure I wish it were an f2.8 zoom but then $$$$ and size. So I think I'm good and sticking with it. I'm curious how this new 24-50f2.8 G compares to Sony's tiny G primes, 24mm, 40mm, and 50mm, especially after you comment that you found most of your images shot at 24mm and 50mm and then some at 35mm. Seems Sony has a lot of redundancy in their line-up and wondering which lenses are they cannibalizing?

@TheRealRichardWong

Ай бұрын

I'm curious too! Let's see if someone else would do a comparison with the primes!

For a Zoom lens I need more focal than aperture, so I pick 20-70 and a 50mm f1.8 as a combo

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

yes fair ennough. Zoom + fast prime is always a good combo

what a great review. Jeez my lens line up are 24/.18, 35/1.4, 55/.18 & the 85/1.4, The 1.4's are for weddings and dual camera set up, the smaller prines are ny secondary lenses in which I use as an edc due to their size, but I often ramble with myself in whther should I get a zoom since I interchange the 24 and 50 a lot and at but my all time fave fl is the 35mm but mine is too big to carry as an edc. I use A7iv btw. If will get the either the 24-50 or the 20-70, this makes my 24/1.8 irrelivant. What do you think?

@TheRealRichardWong

9 күн бұрын

1.8 and f/2.8 or f/4 is still quite a big difference if you want shallow DOF or under very low light. So I guess it really depends on if you need either of these

💯 Thank you 👍

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thank you too!

Excellent. !!

@TheRealRichardWong

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

I own the 24-70mm GM II. But, I thought I would buy either the 20-70 G or the 24-50 G for travel. Can't decide.

@TheRealRichardWong

2 ай бұрын

It is a difficult decision. i don't see too big difference between 50 to 70mm range (can always crop a bit), but 20 vs 24 is quite important to me.

@PhotoTrekr

2 ай бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong I don't think there's a big difference between 50 and 70mm either. But, when I do zoom out to 70, I sometimes wish I had a bit more. I could go to 24-105 I had that lens at one time and liked it. But, I don't think I'd buy it again. There is a big difference between 20 and 24, though. 24 is wide, but 20 starts getting into ultrawide. Hard decision. But, it's a good problem to have.

@TheRealRichardWong

2 ай бұрын

Indeed good problem to have

@Princeton_James

Ай бұрын

I was in that same boat. I own the GMii and didn't realize there was a new 20-70 out. Bought it yesterday. I absolutely love it. Very sharp. I did have the 24-50 on preorder but I cancelled it. Still very tempting though. I plan on making my 20-70 my perfect travel lens.

2450g+70200gm2

Genial 👋👋👋👋

Good

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😊

24-50 has questionable weather sealing (see Tonys review) it’s also weak in corners (so you need to stop down anyway) and lacks the XD motors. Also 50-70 is missing. 20-70 better, and gives you more bang for the buck. 24-70GMII best of both worlds and work those muscles! Let your wallet decide! 😅 I picked the 24-70GMII myself, because I couldn’t decide between the other two!

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Fog up doesn't mean questionable weather sealing. Weather sealing only means preventing water or dust from going inside the lens, it's not air-tight. With high humidity + big temperature difference between the lens and ambient temperature, any lens could and would fog up.

@SPDTDL

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong I’ve had front and back elements fog on my GM’s when travelling asia and going from air con to outside temps. I’ve NEVER had internal fogging which will result in water within the lens, and eventually mould. Was enough to put me off considering it….

uptalk😂

😂 very good review, I have multiple camera bodies and I own a 24-70 f2.8 one is a Sigma for a Panasonic S5 and S5 MKII the other is a Pentax that I use on a K1MKII along with some APSC bodies. I also have a some what equivalent focal length on a Fujifilm XT5 and the Olympus 12-40 f2.8 that is used with a OMD EM1MK II AND MKIII Bodies. The two 24-70mm f2.8 are larger than the 20-70mm f4 and the Sony A7II is a smaller size than the Panasonic S5 and the Pentax K1 MKII so the fact that the Sony is a f4 is not a problem as I will be photographing landscapes and when the light is low I will use a tripod, I have a few small fast prime lenses for the Sony A7II but the 20-70mm is small enough to use as a daily walk around camera setup. Once again good video.