Do you think PHEVs make sense? 🤔 Or would you rather have a full EV? 👇

@davethevicar88

2 жыл бұрын

For me plug in is the only way. The cost of ev's is way out of my budget plus I drive the wife and me to work on pure electric 5 days a week cost ⅔+ cheaper than my old diesel insignia zero road tax and if I want to go further I can without the hassle of is the charger working lol no brainer

@robbcollins3727

2 жыл бұрын

For wife & I phev is pretty ideal. We purchased 2017 volt in 2020, 50 mile range gets us to work and back daily 100% ev. On the weekend a longer edventure is possible when ev range is depleted. So far in 11,000 miles we have added gas 3 times. Awesome….

@TT-hy8yl

2 жыл бұрын

Phev. I live in a rural area and there are no chargers.

@durgymp

2 жыл бұрын

Not adding Rav4 phev it's just mental as it's the most popular one in Europe and US. You have something against Toyota don't you?

@aadi8568

2 жыл бұрын

nope id get a petrol/diesel or an EV - PHEV on paper sounds like the best of both worlds but in reality its the worst of both worlds

Suggest to remove all the luxury cars from the list, Also a bit strange to compare sedans with SUVs. Thanks for the video though

Got a bargain on a 2nd hand BMW 225xe and haven't regretted it one bit. 15 miles electric autonomy (in the winter) for your daily chores, and 45mpg when it uses petrol. The cherry on the top is that I can pre-heat it with a touch of a button from my phone on cold winter mornings.

My wife has been driving a 2012 holden Volt (chevy) PHEV for years. It's 60-70km (37-43mi) electric range covers her 50km daily work commute with enough for side trips and in summer there is enough sun in the afternoon to charge mostly from roof top solar when she gets home. When we travel it gets around 4lt per 100km (58mpg) for a 300 km trip. So if you forget the 70km electric only part it calculates out at 5.2lt per 100 (45mpg) hybrid only mode. This is why manufactures make some wild claims about MPG. It all depends on the lenght of the trip. If you do the numbers for 100km trip starting with a full battery it is 1.56lt/100 (150mpg) Awsome car, never missed a beat. Until the charging infstructure here in Australia gets better a PHEV is the only way to go.

@yowhaatsup

Ай бұрын

Your wife has a side man

The Volvo variants which have improved infotainment sys, and new drivetrain with 145hp electric motor and 18,8KWh battery is a really nice choice.

Thinking about getting PHEV but I wish it would be good to see 2 baby car seats or 3 adults to get an idea of the space (carwow sometimes does that) in addition to the other info. In addition, something which is never mentioned is the safety protection of a car for all occupants (for adults and child), which vary widely. Yes, they all have 5* but some are definitely safer. Something to consider for potential buyers.

I'm really surprised the RAV4 Prime PHEV is not on the list. They are in such demand in British Columbia that we were told there is a 2-3 year wait to get one.

@JohnBalogh

2 жыл бұрын

They did include it: Toyota/Lexus Rav4prime/NX450 ... same thing, just different accoutrements.

@johnstonlee

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the chip shortage

@andi-ih3jj

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnstonlee It’s not the chip shortage. It is the few numbers build and the enormous amount of people that would like to have one. Lexus drive train Lexus reliability Toyota price

@kevinweber5129

2 жыл бұрын

Based on the accent this may just be for vehicles in Australia.

@andi-ih3jj

2 жыл бұрын

Just had a look yesterday at my Toyota dealer here in Germany: 2 regular RAV4 Hybrids and 12!!! Plug-in RAV4 on premise for immediate delivery .... when i bought my regular RAV4 Hybrid in August 2021, 9 months ago, there were only 2 Hybrids, including mine, and 1 or 2 Plug-ins available for immediate delivery. Actually, the Plug-ins were at the dealership and the two Hybrids were just off the ship in Zeebrügge, Netherlands so i had to wait 10 days before I could take mine home and I had to take it as is which ment I payed €10.000,- more because it was a loaded special called Black Edition. But built to order would have caused a 6-7 month wait. I am not the patient type ;-) and now I quite happy with it because it was only sold for a very short time period. Probably took too much time to build and too many special parts as it has 19" rims only on this vehicle and except for decals and logos and this strip of chrome along the side windows every thing is painted a glossy black with glitter in it which you only can see when the sun shines on it from a certain direction. And everything also means also the parts the reach underneath, this fake undercarriage protection ;-)

No MG HS Exclusive PHEV included......Great spec and amazing value for money. The majority on your test were in excess of £40k meaning their road tax will be £520 per year(2022). The only SUV's on your list under £40k were Kuga(over £40k if you want top of the range Vignale trim) and the Hyundai Tuscun(over £40k for Ultimate trim) The MG has huge spec for a fraction of the price of all these and is more powerful and faster than it's closest rivals with 0-60 in 6.9secs and 258hp. All for under £35k and a 7yr warrantee.

I cannot believe you do have omitted the RAV4 Plug-In Hybrid from your list - I tried 5 different Plug Ins before settling on the RAV4 - It was the only one that achieves the claimed electric miles, is quick at just below 6 seconds 0-60 and a great drive. You manage to pick the Lexus NX asa your number 1 choice but I am sure you are aware it is a RAV4 under the body. It has all the features of the NX except for the upgraded Entertainment screen and in my Premium Dynamic Version is 15,000 cheaper than the NX. I live on Jersey and never use petrol but when I travel off Island I get great performance from the combination of electric hybrid and petrol

@joey-pn3xe

2 жыл бұрын

I think the very reason why the rav 4 is left out is exactly the fact that it’s the same as the Lexus underneath however the Lexus is better as a total package.

@Ktmdubb

2 жыл бұрын

BMW x5 45e is better

@johnbowling6618

2 жыл бұрын

@@joey-pn3xe Better package costing 10k more 🙄

@joey-pn3xe

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbowling6618 depends. I’m buying the NX 450 through an ltd and that £10k doesn’t really mean much due to the tax benefits.

@durgymp

2 жыл бұрын

@@joey-pn3xe but there are at least 50 RAV4 plugin drivers / owners to one lexus nx plugin

Perfect video. Thank lot I watched from Türkiye. And I am very pleased to your clear speaking.

I have owned a Prius PHV since August 2018. My real world mpg is currently 161.6 from new. Battery-only range is between 30 and 35 depending on the season.

@brianwright9215

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the share! Prius claims it only gets about 20 to 25 miles on electric only...

Useful. Thanks.

Toyota Rav4 Phev not even mentioned yet it's the benchmark. Wish the govt didn't include the luxury tax though.

@JohnBalogh

2 жыл бұрын

They did include it: Toyota/Lexus Rav4prime/NX450 ... same thing, just different accoutrements.

We've got a Volvo C40 and love it. No problems with EV driving locally and longer journeys on main Arteries are easy peasy too. But having just retired the huge monthly cost is forcing us back to outdated burning stuff to go shopping. So looking at phevs now.

What about Kia Niro phev, never seems to get a mention, yet the hybrid and e-Niro are reviewed positively.

Not sure it’s entirely correct to compare a £70k car and a £35k car, quite the jump in price. For this test to make any sense, all cars should have been very similarly priced

@byronchavarria4954

Жыл бұрын

$ Not £

Missing the Renault Capture here. Still appreciate this though.

I’ve been driving a Vaxhall Ampera for 3 years now, the 35-40 mile range gets me to work and back and is good most day to day journeys. It’s amazing just how much of your weekly driving can be done EV mode. Seems to be lots of hate on PHEVs by people who haven’t driven them, pure EV’s are expensive, only give 200 miles range and can’t realistically tow a caravan. I quite like the look of Mercedes C class PHEV which you didn’t mention, but PHEV’s like mine will are lasting over 400k miles, PHEVS seem to last way longer than pure ICE cars, less wear and tear on the engine, so I should be able to keep mine until EV

@whocares264

Жыл бұрын

I agree the REX is the best, the petrol engine just a generator, perfect

@stevenbeatsgmail

Жыл бұрын

I've heard the hate speeches on PHEVs from a Tesla owner. As a person who owns an EV too, I think it really says more about the arrogance of certain EV drivers.

@bikeman123

Ай бұрын

Phevs lasting over 400k miles? Can't see any in autotrader. Where is your source?

I love my PHEV! As a Motability member I have been lucky to lease a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. A lease is normally limited to 3yrs and I am nearing the end of my second one. I won’t go fully electric because the Charging stations are too expensive and they are limited to 80% of the battery’s capacity, home chargers are 100%. I normally only fill up the tank once a month. Sadly Mitsubishi have withdrawn sales from UK. I intend to extend my lease as the available of an affordable alternative is limited.

I have a KIA optima PEHV bought new October 2016, with a 2 litre petrol engine, I get 31 miles on pure electric and on a long run with combined motors I average 75 MPG. I think this car is brilliant, comfortable, smooth and reasonably fast, what’s more, I can’t recall seeing another PHEV Optima in this area.

One Tesla battery has 25 pounds lithium ( which had to be processed with sulphuric acid) 60 pounds nickel 44 pounds manganese 30 pounds cobalt 200 pounds copper 400 aluminum and plastic The machine that mines this uses 900 to 1000 gallons of fuel in a 12 hour period. Electricity to put this together, generated by oil, gas, coal, or nuclear. How is this feasible? Check price of replacement battery. Not less than $10.000). Tesla around $14.000)

Chevy volt it has a 53 mile pure ev range it's really sad the GM quit making them truly a leader still and outdoing 2023 models with their last year of production in 2019 😭💔 great video

I feel the ford fusion energi was just a test to see if they could do plug in and it get about a combine 42 mpg and can run on full electric a short distance

RAV4 Prime. Is it not available in the UK?

Considering the Lexus NX was No.1, I'm surprised the Toyota RAV4 PHEV didn't even make the Top 10, as they are very similar cars under the skin.

@AB-80X

Жыл бұрын

They are the exact same car underneath. Just goes to show how these lists are more about personal opinion than objective facts. The Rav4 Prime is a better overall choice for most consumers.

Why no Rav 4 phev or have you not tested one of the best phevs currently on the market?

@JohnBalogh

2 жыл бұрын

They did include it: Toyota/Lexus Rav4prime/NX450 ... same thing, just different accoutrements.

@aadi8568

2 жыл бұрын

Because its overpriced, ugly and in general bad value

@andi-ih3jj

2 жыл бұрын

@@aadi8568 oh a real professional here. Yes it’s a bit pricey but everything else you said is dead wrong. Actually it’s the only decent PHEV there is at all because it is the best one in fuel efficiency overall. Why? in the moment it runs out of battery it turns into a full hybrid with all the knowledge Toyota amassed in the last 20 years and still gets an a Incredibly better mpg than any other of those PHEV‘s. Actually it’s mpg is only about 0,5-1 l per 100km off to what the regular full hybrid RAV4 uses

@Rhaman68

2 жыл бұрын

@@andi-ih3jj Hi, sorry but the Toyota PHEV models are not the best option as to EV range and hybrid MPG. That award goes to the Hyundai Ioniq PHEV model that once the EV range is used gets 60 ish MPG. I have one and can testify with data acquired. I’ll grant that in the US market Toyota has a better distribution network as Hyundai limits sales to limited states. Thanks

Anyone have a Hyundai ioniq plug in? I’m wondering how that compares?

Forgot to mention the MG HS PHEV, wow what a car that is with an incredible interior plus plenty of power. Skoda is obviously really good too. So maybe make a video for cars under 40k? Or Whats the best SUV PHEV?

Perhaps not the 2022 and earlier Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV's but, the 2023 is worth mentioning as well since it has a wider battery range around 50 Plus and All.. Wheel Control.

MPG is such a bogus metric to use for aggregating electric and petrol use. It's more rational to use the KwH equivalent of a gallon of petrol, and use Miles per KwH (Km per KwH). If you want to derive a reasonable MPG approximation for petrol used, then subtract your avg M/KwH * KwH used per tankfull from your total trip miles, and work out MPG for petrol replaced. I can get an electric only range of 40+ miles, and an MPG of better than 50 from my Mercedes A250e. Better than any of those Beemers you keep plugging(in). The A250e is also missing from your list. Why?

Like the Toyota RAV4 the Mazda CX60 is another pretty good contender, especially for the money. Big difference with non PHEV versions is the boot capacity which is pretty minimal fo4 some cars like the BMW sedans.

No RAV4? I know it’s pretty similar to the Lexus but it’s bigger, faster and a lot cheaper so probably deserves to be slotted in somewhere. Although still pricey, it’s better value for money imo.

What can u say about the MG ZS EV 2023?

Hey cheers for the video mate 😎 👌

Have you probably noticed Mercedes plug-in hybrids? A-series will go like 70km with only electric, C-class,GLE and S-class models will go over 100 km.. almost double the range against almost everything. And you can have even 55kw fast charge.

Does anyone know if BYD are coming to the UK?

My onley experience was a Lynk&Co , 8 month , 11600 km on averechts of 2,2 liter p 100km . Useful 78 km per load ( 16 kwu) and ! An exelant car to drive

GLE v167 is the best of PHEVs today!!! 60 miles! and maximum comfort!

Why does nobody ever include the Renault Captur PHEV in tests? Much more affordable than most of the others along with actually being very good despite what the Renault haters will say.

@colinlambert791

Жыл бұрын

Basically because Renault are cr@p!

What happened to the Toyota Raw4? Did I missed it?

21 model year 530e never has a flat battery as the software always tries to bring in e-drive and charge on downhill or lift off conditions. With the theoretical "no charge" on long motroway milers your estimate of the 2L petrol consumption is way too conservative. It still gets 45-48mpg with a flat battery (and a roof box!). It is a truly impressive vehicle and will allow anyone who can afford the sticker price to savour the high quality build and software until BEV truly become cost effective and can complete long journeys of 300miles in one go.

About a year ago I bought a Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV. I had been rather keen on EVs given their fuel (or power) efficiency, civilized driving experience, having a car that was powered up at the convenience of my own home, and the fact that EVs tend to offer good cargo capacity thus precluding the need for something large. It is a very pleasurable experience to drive the Santa Fe because it brings good build quality and reliability, a very civilized and well-rounded design (both external and internal), and quite a decent electric range. No, it doesn´t boast the EV range of a RAV 4 or X5 but it goes without saying that since PHEVs are not typically equipped with DC charging, having too large of a battery will only prolong charging times (the Santa Fe already needs 6 hours on a home socket). Plus if I am going to get a range above 100km, then why not just go electric and get it over with, huh? On the range of the Santa Fe: the indicator will read 48km when fully charged but the range goes up to around 62km in urban areas and will decrease to around 55km - 58km on the highway. So unless you are trying to burn rubber in EV mode, the numbers are better than what the car indicates. When the battery reaches 14% the car will go into regular Hybrid (or self-charging) mode and then the fuel economy of the car in urban areas will clock between 5.5 to 6.5 lt/100km. On the highway, it will keep steady at 6.5lt /100km. (Why? Gas engines and Electrical engines are mirror opposites of each other in terms of efficiency, in that a gas engine will consume more per 100km in the city than an electric motor and vice versa). Now that ain´t half bad for 2-tonne tank. My recom: Get the 5 seater of 6 seater if available in the UK. If you get a 5 seater, then one will be presented with additional cargo volume in the place where the 3rd row would normally be. Or just get the 6 seater since every one will have individual seats as they have in the front. Its a decent compromse (ie PHEVs) for those who are not convinced that EVs are "ripe" enough. You get to ride like the Jetsons for shorter hops and feel comfortable with being able to find a gas station where you wont have to wait forever to power the car up, AND get a car that is fuel efficient even in HEV mode.

Do phevs still make sense now that electricity unit price has risen so much?

You should have also added Toyota RAV 4 PHEV in that list.

@JohnBalogh

2 жыл бұрын

They did include it: Toyota/Lexus Rav4prime/NX450 ... same thing, just different accoutrements.

@PhotosWithBhav

2 жыл бұрын

@John Balogh They are very similar but Not the same thing. Just like a BMW X1, BMW 225xe & Mini Countryman PHEV are similar they are Not the same.

I think a phev is worth it. You get a normal hybrid but with the option to plug it in. But I would rather have an ev

According to concept, i once also warship PHEV as the best solution. But when I had a chance to use PHEV for a few days with a short and long trip, here is my thought and i will never buy PHEV. 1. Car weight is significant, either you run on EV mode or engine mode the consumption rate is very high. 2.charging time is very slow unlike Pure EV. 3. Way more expensive than traditional hybrid car 4. Simple hybrid car is way simpler and dont need to worry finding charging and greedy frugal to drive abysmall ev range which in real life situation is shorter than paper number. If need short ev mode....just buy zoe.

@colinlambert791

Жыл бұрын

When a PHEV runs out of battery it will still run as a hybrid. My Mitsubishi Outlander got 55mpg after the battery had gone flat, then running in HV . Not bad for a 2ton brick!

One feature that could be crucial in the turmoil on the horizon is the reported abillity of the PHEVs to double as a home electric generator in a crisis...... That 'plug' to charge the car does not resemble anything recognizable as household electric..... Do these gems still have that ability and how good ae they at that task? ttyl

A few observations, if I may... First, I thought your explanation of PHEV vs HEV at the start was an excellent introduction to this review, especially for those drivers not familiar with the concept - great stuff. 👍 However, I'm rather surprised that the 25.4kWh Mercedes C300e PHEV was not in your list, especially since, at 60 miles WLTP, that covers more than pretty-much ANY other PHEV currently on the market...! 🤔 And, finally, I thought it a little odd that, with you lauding the electric-only range of your #5 choice - the BMW X5e - the video then omits to actually show the WLTP range for that car...????? 🤣

@squatsnoats6503

2 жыл бұрын

I read that the merc phev doesn't really redeem that promise and after the battery is empty the consumption rises substantially which is really sad.

@davidgapp1457

2 жыл бұрын

@@squatsnoats6503 And that's not how it works. First, the battery is never empty. When the battery drops to a certain level of charge the vehicle switches into hybrid mode and maintains the same charge (approx) as the equivalent hybrid model uses. In this mode the vehicle is not quite as efficient as the Hybrid Rav4 (38mpg versus 42mpg) however I've found the Prime gets around 40mpg in real life driving. Part of this is because the larger battery in the PHEV version can capture more regenerative power - for instance, a long descent from the mountains which would saturate the smaller battery on the HEV version. Overall, after 1 year of driving, and with a mix of city driving (primarily) and weekend getaways to the mountains, I have average 76.1mpge. In the past year I have refueled my Prime... just 4 times.

@squatsnoats6503

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidgapp1457 Toyota hybrids are miles (lol) ahead the competition.

@davidgapp1457

2 жыл бұрын

@@squatsnoats6503 Nope. Not even close. The hybrids return the equivalent of around 2.9 miles per kwHr. Other vehicles (admittedly most at higher prices) return between 3.5 and 4.9 miles per kwHr). Also, you need to work on your humor.

@squatsnoats6503

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidgapp1457 I decided to buy a Tesla instead anyway so you don't need to sell me on a hybrid which are more inefficient anyway

No. 1 is Prius, thanks.

Range for BMW X5?

I like the wagons :)

What about the Kia's ?

Rav4 has same mechanicals as Lexus NX but £10k cheaper. Your review seems very biased towards executive cars rather than car for the everyday folk.

What is the mpg for the Hyundai ioniq plug in without the electric power?

@Rhaman68

2 жыл бұрын

The Ioniq is never without electric power as the EV range stops with 15-18% of battery charge to use in hybrid mode. My 2018 Ioniq PHEV on highway is close to or above 60 mpg at 65 mph. Pack people and luggage for holiday travel, depending on topographic challenges as to number and steepness of hills and MPG could go to high 40’s. I’ve seen 48 mpg on segments. For daily runs it’s all on battery EV mode. Thanks

Dreading the delivery of my New Audi A3 sportback S-line tfsi-e company car next Monday, don't get me wrong, a brand new company car is always nice. Just the Electric plug in part of this just seems such a faff

why are they all so expensive, not one under £30k

Glad that I will buy a fully loaded 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV anyway.

Unbelievable No Toyota RAV4 Phev included in the review, it’s the best on the market to date…

@kristians2704

2 жыл бұрын

in Europe, it’s far too expensive

@JohnBalogh

2 жыл бұрын

They did include it: Toyota/Lexus Rav4prime/NX450 ... same thing, just different accoutrements.

@trev0074

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnBalogh Of course Not.

@TheFelltimber

2 жыл бұрын

An Aussie videeo review similar to this put the Rav 4 as number 1....its called Chasing Cars.

@kittyflier8338

2 жыл бұрын

Camparing with song plus phev, RAV4 PHEV is just pathetic...

I do understand that this list represents PHEVs that you can currently purchase in the UK but just in case it will be available in the future, check out the Li Auto One. It has a 48 liter petro tank and will go 800 KM.

@alanthomas9369

2 жыл бұрын

If it is Chinese no one can recommend it in this world right now.

I love my RAV 4 PHEV. Same car as the Lexus NX, but with a slightly dialled down interior, and 20% cheaper.

I had a Chevy Volt plugin Hybrid that would charge to 63 mile range on the battery. The whole year I had the car I never bought gas. Where are the new cars today that can get 63 miles on a charge?

This doesn’t put me off EVs, it does however put me off an EV with no heat pump and a smaller style (stalantis) battery as in County Durham we get a lot of snow with a lot more sub zero temperatures. As I would be dependent on the public charging network I would definitely rule out a small battery car with no heat pump over a car with heat pump. I recently ruled out the Hyundai lone electric in ultimate trim as they have taken the heat pump from being standard to an £850 optional extra, that’s as cheeky as BMW charging £61+ for their ix3 made at a massively reduced price in China. Chinese EVs will show all the other manufacturers that they will have reduce their profit margins if they want to stay in business as when people see what you get with a Chinese EV for much less money I can’t see people eager to over the odds for a badge made in the same place with an inflated price.

Why are the Volvos not listed ?

the ford kuga plugin hybrid badjet nice

Need to increase the electric only range to about 100 miles. They could suit everyone

@cp-chipheo9528

Жыл бұрын

The car will lose efficiency due to heavier battery.

@ThomasPetter

Жыл бұрын

@@cp-chipheo9528 it would also set the price higher than some EVs; am I right?

@cp-chipheo9528

Жыл бұрын

@@ThomasPetter You could be right. I didn't think about the price. Your statement makes sense because the engine will cost money to build. However, the engine would provide extra option compare with ev. If the battery degraded badly, the PHEV could be used as a hybrid vehicle. It only needs a small storage of charge to transfer charge to motor.

@MrDuncl

Жыл бұрын

There have been very few Range Extender cars but to me it sounds like a good idea. If the engine was run at the optimum efficiency all the time you wouldn't need a very big one. BMW did it with their i3.

Volvo phev's in really good aswell

what about kia niro plugin?

Test drove many of them and its ashame that the Mercedes C300e isn’t in this list. I think its the greatest PHEV on the market now.

@burttheman3697

Жыл бұрын

The electric range is 100 km officially, it is 70 to 80 km in real life.

@AB-80X

Жыл бұрын

@@burttheman3697 And that with a pretty big battery. Not really that great.

No mention of the Kia Sportage?

Have a NX 450h+ F Sport on order fantastic car

Anything smaller. Those cars are huge. & only one under £35,000 not exactly affordable.

@JohnBalogh

2 жыл бұрын

Check your price on the Toyota Prius Prime (if you can get it in your location). It is a PHEV with 25 miles of electric range before the ICE kicks on to help power and charge.

@jonathantaylor1998

2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a 4 year old, 33000 mile BMW i3 Rex (effectively a PHEV that'll do 100+ miles on pure electric) for £17k... that's the same length as a Ford Fiesta 👍

Should have stated clearly at the beginning of the video this is what's available in the UK. I was looking for info about the US. Surprised the Toyota Prius Prime is not listed.

Is the E class any good?

@apexg6571

2 жыл бұрын

2018

This list has very high price variations. The comparison should be into a specific price range. Otherwise just throw some ferraris and Lamborghinis in there.

Love my golf gte, but not on your list????

There was no graphic stating the EV range of the X5, or do I need Specsavers. I played it twice.

@jonathantaylor1998

2 жыл бұрын

Ha Ha... I noticed that 'unfortunate omission', too...! 🤣

What about battery reliability in about 5 years? I’ve heard cases that battery needed to be replaced and that’s not cheap

@jonathantaylor1998

2 жыл бұрын

Please don't believe the media...! 🤣 For example, Tesla have telemetry data on the battery packs from their oldest model range, the Model S, which has been out for 10 years now, showing battery degradation of only around 10% after 200,000 miles of use... so instead of doing about 250 miles per charge, a 10 year old Model S would now do about 225 miles. 👍

@joey-pn3xe

2 жыл бұрын

You need to stop ‘hearing’ and do some reading.

Hybryd yes but only with eCVT so FORD OR TOYOTA

I bought a petrol car 9 months ago,I wasn't shelling out stupid money for a hybrid or electric car at this stage, maybe for my next one when the prices go down.👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@ionutgeanta8741

2 жыл бұрын

i think that is the right choice atm. can't aford a fully electric vehicle, so i went for a diesel. phev s are very expensive, you might save a bit more and get a full electric lol

Only about expensive cars here. Nothing about small SUV Kia or Hyundai.

Don't understand how the X5 with only 60 ish more Hp than the Kias is 3 seconds quicker to 60

No mention of the Range Rover Evoque P300e??? Done 4500 miles now in mine with several long journeys. Overall average since new is 62 mpg. 0-60mph in 6.1 secs but more importantly it’s regularly doing 33-37 miles on pure electric at the moment dropping to 26 miles in freezing temperatures. Unlike most cars mentioned in the test is can also be charged on a DC charger at up to 35KW/hr. My neighbours BMW330e won’t charge about 3.5 KW/hr under any circumstances.

@riley881

Жыл бұрын

Mine charges at 2.4kw hr but I'm happy ... 10 years old and still get 50-60 miles summer and 38 miles winter :) can't fault it

why dont refer the mitsubishi outlander ?

Nothing with a battery is a everyday car for the everyday person

If your commute is under 15 miles then your mpg is infinity

I would have the Lexus out of the other PHEV vehicles.

@kristians2704

2 жыл бұрын

even over a X5 45e?

@DaveDVideoMaker

2 жыл бұрын

@@kristians2704 I like the X5 45e, but the Lexus is better in terms of long term reliability.

Hi, You state that all the cars are PHEV, but then go on to say that they are also known as FHEV, which is not correct. FHEV's are full or self charging hybrids, which is not the same?

@davidy7004

2 жыл бұрын

Many people seem to pronounce PHEV as "FEV", using PH as an F sound as in Stephen, Philosophy, etc., because the English language is weird like that. If manufacturers are now labelling cars as FHEV to mean something different, then that is indeed going to cause confusion for spoken communication as opposed to written ...

Most of these cars are crazy expensive.

What a surprise not. Das Auto bugs up as many BMW cars as it can. This is why I don't believe their BMW centric reveiws

I have just exchanged my all electric Vauxhall Corsa E for the MG HS Exclusive, which has all of the bells and whistles that more expensive branded PHEVs have, at a more reasonable cost. Panoramic roof, great comfort, roomy, and if not perfect driving, very good and acceptable for the cost. Great value for money!

@Steve-gc5nt

2 жыл бұрын

Just a shame it's Chinese.

Volvo XC60 T8 is one of the best PHEVs

Price is an issue also… so Lexus is out of my list right away.

what about Chinese brands such as Haval, MG & CHANGAN ?

@AB-80X

Жыл бұрын

If you are willing to support a country that only wants to see us gone, sure, go ahead.

As I just told Top Gear, we need 10´000 15´000 20´000 dollar car NOW.

Can someone please explain why a PHEV can't work like a HEV once the battery goes flat?

@tubularG

Жыл бұрын

Some can. It depends on whether the car has an onboard petrol generator to recharge the batteries

@MrDuncl

Жыл бұрын

They all can. However, the problem is you are carrying the significant weight of the flat battery hence poor MPG.

What about the Peugeot 3008 and Citroën aircross 5

@AB-80X

Жыл бұрын

Garbage. Just got rid of a Grandland X Hybrid4. What a huge disappointment that was.

@shithead4767

Жыл бұрын

@@AB-80X what didn't u like about it?

Where is the C class

My ampera is great

Don’t bother…. Just pay a bit more and go FULL ELECTRIC! You are still running a Fossil fuel engine AND prices are going to tumble with PHEVS/ Plug ins as time goes on.

@TheCroz12

2 жыл бұрын

Fully electric are absolutely worthless in states with cold weather and the electric power grid that charges them is fueled primarily by coal, so there’s that. If I lived in a warmer state I’d consider it but not remotely realistic for many of us.

@caolkyle

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCroz12 should check out Norways ev infrastructure and uptake. All depends entirely on how many miles a person does and how they can charge (home or public charging)

@AB-80X

Жыл бұрын

@@caolkyle Norway is the exception, not the norm, and most counties don't have the hydro power Norway does. Besides, driving a car in Norway is absolutely murderous. They will point blank lock you up for going 175 km/h on a motorway. But at some point Norway will have to get their heads out of the clouds. EV's are a fad, not a mainstay. I say this as Taycan Turbo S owner.

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