i'm tattooing *deep lutz edge* on my forehead

@mrsnufkinsan

3 жыл бұрын

Omggg go for it

@paolo1391

Жыл бұрын

I would suggest you do some research as to the exact shape of the perfect Lutz takeoff edge has to not look like a hacker, lol!

Kolyada's triple Lutz over a messy quad any day!

@elye0987

2 жыл бұрын

!!!

@priscila4223

2 жыл бұрын

In fact, Kolyada's 3Lz is a popped 4Lz. That's how good it is.

Lutz jump a.k.a the obsession of most figure skating fans. Watching textbook lutz jump is the most satisfying thing in figure skating imo.

@queenofnevers6990

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is so being obsessed about because it shows what a skater's technique worth in depth. Like if you want to see what a ballerina worth check her in Swan Lake. There's nothing to hide behind.

@yohanes2034

3 жыл бұрын

The reason I think is because skaters who master the textbook technique are rare breed nowadays. Plus ISU refusal to acknowledge good technique vs bad technique and inconsitent edge violation calls contribute to FS fandom obsession in scrutinizing lutz jump. I am one of them lol.

@nikitashaitan9984

3 жыл бұрын

Nuh. There are a tom of more satisfying things in FS than Lutz. I personally refer Axel, choreo sequences, party tricks and spins.

@mrl6956

3 жыл бұрын

O yes, watching textbook Nathan's quad Lutz is the most satisfying thing ...

@trylogic4084

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrl6956 Agreed! But I actually think that the 4Lz in his 2019 Worlds free skate was even better than this one.

I really hope that Misha will attempt again the quad lutz and I hope it'll be consistent. Honestly everytime he landed a good quad lutz it's such a blessing to the eyes

@kadovax6567

3 жыл бұрын

I believe he will because his 3Lz height is such. Same for Kevin Aymoz for the same reason.

@9afina

3 жыл бұрын

He has the wrong lutz technique. He places the toe at a completely straight angle (0 pre-rotation), which leads to an incorrect take-off. Therefore, it will never land steadily.

Lutz is the most beautiful jump..the outside edge, pure toepick that vaults them in the air is just satisfying.

I was slightly surprised by Kevin Aymoz's lutz technique. I thought I won't be seeing picking foot axis more tilted than Yuzuru ever, his picking angle is more to the outside of rotation making it harder. The takeoff is good just the body position and landing makes his jump sometimes looks weird and not effortless. The two Italians are with the worst technique and thankfully Shoma is no longer putting lutz in his program. Han yan, Keegan, Kolyada, and Nathan are among the best. As you indicated, Kolyada's lutz is simply chef kiss.

@theojsn

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that he jumps so high is something good in itself but it kind of generates some heavy landings, which does not allow a good flow on the landing!

@rayneforresy640

2 жыл бұрын

@@theojsn this is very very late. But you should see Kolyada's 4Lutz in CoC 2017. A thing a beauty that one is 😍. Height, distance, and the landing omg, it was sooo smooth 😍😍. NGL it was probably the best 4Lutz I've seen in the current era.

@user-qx3tg1kz6x

2 жыл бұрын

Мишин Лутц лучший, у него все прыжки на высоком техническом уровне. Аксель шикарный, высокий, пролетный.

@Eska_flop7

11 ай бұрын

Kevin’s lutz looked very pretty ,better than yan or kolyada for me

These kinds of videos are my favourite. A completely objective analysis, and it's so satisfying to see proper technique!

@SkateInsider

3 жыл бұрын

glad you like them! ☺️

@aniawacht3882

Жыл бұрын

Not really objective. When someone had a little shake in between she said “extremely” Shakey. Very over exaggerating

btw shoutout to Han Yan...man's so underrated but got good jumps

@bb__v2452

3 жыл бұрын

His 3A is so beautiful and satisfying to watch

@SkateInsider

3 жыл бұрын

i could say i feel blessed to have watched han yan

@Cherry-iq1xb

3 жыл бұрын

@@SkateInsider +1

@christyhap

3 жыл бұрын

@@bb__v2452 YES

@jjsmith4829

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, a few years ago Kurt Browning commentated that Han had the best triple axel among the men.

Something about Han Yan's jumps is so satisfying to me. His position in the air is just incredible.

@SkateInsider

3 жыл бұрын

han yan has been soooo underrated 😭

@jjsmith4829

2 жыл бұрын

yes. a few years ago when han yan did his romeo and juliet free skate, kurt browning said han yan had the best triple axel in the world.

Nathan, Mikhail, Keegan and Han Yan have beautiful lutz techniques!!!!🤩 I love boyang’s lutz too:D

I see some good but underscored Lutz, couple Flutz , but Nathan is a monster. Kolyada also, great technique but underscored.

@vistaprime

2 жыл бұрын

Keegan also underscored.

Nathan the GOAT

Школа Арутюняна и Мишина по технике самая лучшая👍🏻👍🏻

Kolyada and Chen are best! ❤️

@divinearia1601

3 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt! Their set-up techniques are just flawless.

Коляде так и просится 4L, она себя насильно останавливает в воздухе как будто. Давайте Коляде 4L на Олимпиаду! Мы должны увидеть это совершенство второй раз.

Nathan Chen quad lutz. Perfection. Han Yan trilple lutz. Also solid!

Thank you for explaining so extended these beautiful jumps. I'm amazed Nathan has a perfection in jumps and this quad lutz is very thrilling, breathtaking, simply the best! Bravooo Nathaaaaan! You are the beeeeest! 😍😍😍😍😍❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😉👌🏻🥇🤴🏻🕺🏻⛸⛸🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Kolyada... he is flawless any moment you pause... just lines and body positions - ideal

Love, love this video. Usually the jumps are so fast and very difficult to appreciate. The slow motion is perfect!!! Thanks for the detail. I will watch it a lot of times.

Every time Keegan jumps his beautiful lutz, I could cry. The running edge is so good. You can definitely tell he and Misha have jumped 4Lz before from the height of their triples. I think Kevin and Yuma could land 4Lz too; although Yuma's lutz technique isn't the best he has a really efficient air position. I don't know how Nathan makes 4Lz (and all the other quads) look so easy. I don't think I'll ever know.

Very technical and clear! Thank you for making this video

Fabulous analysis!

Nathan's perfectly correct, but Kolyada's is godly amazing. And not to forget about Keegan's, also exceptionally good.

I’m thankful that you have called out on the skaters that cheat on their take offs now if the judges would start judging correctly 🥰. Nathen is a prodigy at many things not only is he gracious, humble, and kind he’s brilliant 🥰🙏🏻🥰. Thanks for sharing it helps me at least understand what happens to the jumps and explains why they miss, love the analysis your very helpful 🥰. Obviously I’m a Nathen fan I’ve followed him since he began 🥰 hometown boy and accomplished sooo much in a sport that in this country is sooo underrated 😡😡😡. Masculine Elegance and athleticism and music who couldn’t love this sport

Love your channel and this video is unbiased like always!!I am so glad my favorite two male skaters, Han Yan and Kolyada, got recognized for their jumps. I love their skatings so much. Also this is the first compilation of technique comparison among male skaters I have ever seen. I feel a bit frustrated before that so many times, only female skaters got blamed for their techniques and scores. Your video shows that unfair scorings and bad techniques exist in male skating too. And we should blame the judges for not calling the edge and not following the protocols. Looking forward to your future videos! Hope to see the comparisons of different jumps, spins and step sequences.

Kevin's Lutz was insane??? The height on it OMGGGGG also his pick is weirdly satisfying, I love it

@Ninchennase

3 жыл бұрын

underscored IMHO

No hate, but seriously tho, I love men's skating and have huge respect more for them because they have more value to the quality of the jumps compared to the ladies. The Russian ladies should take some pointers from Kolyada, my goodness. The 1/2 prerotation is killing me with them. Also, is Yuzuru a textbook, amazing Lutz jumper? I think he is but wouldn't want to assume. Nathan is crazy, a textbook Lutz on a Quad, no cheated takeoffs, and excessive prerotation. That's how quad jumping is, ladies should take notes.

@simpletruth5927

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and the ladies can also learn from V. Zhilina for a textbook quad luts take off lol

@MaryFeinman

3 жыл бұрын

Only about 4 men did lutz well on worlds, but you bring russian ladies here for no reason. Maybe ladies from other countries should learn from russians how not to fall from triples and doubles lol

@rop888

3 жыл бұрын

Yuzu in general has good jumps. His 4S isn't from one leg old school style like Nathan's and his flip had/has edge issues, but in general he has good technique

@thekat3086

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaryFeinman Yeah, only around 4 men did textbook lutzes, but in the ladies area, almost no one can do it right, especially girls in Eteri's school. Their lutzes are all on flat edges. They are amazing flip jumpers, but not on a Lutz. The quality in ladies jumps in fs has kept degrading over time. I am a fan of the girls, I wish them well and just want them to improve as a skater. Also, you degrading beginner figure skaters falling on jumps tells a lot about how you are not a true fan of the hard work, process, art, and technique the sport brings. lol

@MaryFeinman

3 жыл бұрын

@@thekat3086 I don't think that there are so many "beginners" on the world championship

thank you. kolyada lutz was amazing but if i must choose i will choose Nathan's lutz because it was a perfect and it a quad

Thank you Skate Insider for making this video ❤️❤️❤️ Nathan’s 4 lutz always looks so effortless. I’m kinda sad that Jin Boyang couldn’t land a good 4 lutz in the competition (especially since he’s the first person to land it - if I’m not wrong 😅) Tbh every time I see lutz analysis is always for female figure skaters, and is mostly about how they did a flutz and people would complain they were overscored (especially for Russian skaters). These videos are still very insightful, I just didn’t like the “hating atmosphere” around it

@ellelou7212

3 жыл бұрын

Boyang wasn't the first to land 4Lz. The first ratified "4" "Lz" was by Brandon Mroz. You can see for yourself how it looked: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYGFmtOHhKqTmrw.html (IMO questionable jump on both take off and landing, but pretty much in line with most of the "4Lz"s we see these days)

@yutingsooi5691

3 жыл бұрын

@@ellelou7212 Thanks 👍

@yohanes2034

3 жыл бұрын

@@yutingsooi5691 Boyang still the 1st one that landed 4Lz with great technique (i.e. toe picl, minimum prerotation). So I count him as the 1st one ever in my eyes

Great analysis! Thank you!

@SkateInsider

3 жыл бұрын

glad you enjoyed it 😁

So proud of my boy Kévin, he's not just a wonderful performer but also a great technical jumper

thank you for the video! excellent as always)

Thank you for educational contents!!

何度見てもいつ見ても、助走からの入りはハンヤンが一番軽やかで柔らかくてキレイと思う

@user-ym6pb6zz1c

3 жыл бұрын

ハンヤンのルッツ私も大好きです！ スケーティングもツルツルだから余計にそう感じるんですよね！

@user-pd4kp7fl5t

11 ай бұрын

0:39

Loved the explanation of each performer’s execution!!!

Nathan eres lo MÁXIMO!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤

Nathan makes it look too easy, and achieving a clean quad lutz and doing it technically correct is just beyond.

@krisfujimoto72

3 жыл бұрын

Still much of the jumping success must to tied in with overall fitness. Nathan is a monster with his fitness!

@9afina

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, he is the one man with 4Lz before Olympic.

@rop888

3 жыл бұрын

It's wild the amount of people who downplay his 4lz honestly. Nobody in the world lands it as consistently and well as he does AND with the correct technique.

@9afina

3 жыл бұрын

@@rop888 Well, in fact, he was left alone to land it. And the one who lands 4 flip. It annoys me so much that Uno was appointed the first performer of 4 flip, despite he jumps the floop.

@Unfiltered494

2 жыл бұрын

​@@9afina came back to this video after the Olympics and reading this convo I remembered sth that I saw someone say under another video - if/when Nathan retires, men's figure skating is going to go back like 10 years. Nobody will be out there with those 4Lz, two 4Fs long programs. What is crazy is that I once engaged in a twitter discussion with someone who tried to convince me that Yuma had better technique than Nathan, because he jumps higher... no words. Maybe Ilia Malinin gives some hope, but I don't think he has a 4F yet and who knows what growth might still do to his jumps.

🇯🇵日本語字幕は設定で利用可能です 🇷🇺 Русские субтитры доступны в настройках

Super. Thanks for the video 👌👏

Beautiful lutz has a very satisfying visual effect

You worked hard! This video explains perfectly the Lutz technique. I don't see those details at normal speed at all.

Mikhail..hands down...most beautiful lutz jump...

Only Nathan landed a flawless 4Lz at worlds 😍❤️

@noran7809

3 жыл бұрын

No question about that. Nobody even comes close to Nathan ... 😍

@mooony94

3 жыл бұрын

The true quad lutz king

I like Keegan`s landing in the blue curve line, amazing)

Okay, I'm kinda shook at the amount of men with bad lutz's though. I thought men were supposed to have good lutz's in general. Yuma working on a 4lz seems weird.

@ariannabinaghi5222

2 жыл бұрын

Ahah this is a misconception about ladies we get because the only girls doing quad lutzes are trained by the same coach and have the same questionable technique, which is the same they have in their triples. While there are ladies with good triple lutzes as well. The same applies to men.

bestest jumper in My think is Nathan chen(+Boyang jin)

Honestly how can it be called be a triple if they're doing 3/4 of the rotation on ice, looking at Rizzo

@cheesechildren5957

3 жыл бұрын

tbf, most jumps have pre-rotation (toe jumps like the lutz, and then on salchow when the free leg is kicking through they normally jump forwards, or the quarter, same with loop. Axel can jump forwards most of the time (2a is 2 1/2...) but there CAN be pre-rotation as well but only about 1/4. so most jumps need a prerotation for them to be organized. however, like u were saying, 3/4 of a pre-rotation is too much and will must likely have a negative GOE.

@ariannabinaghi5222

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheesechildren5957 *should have negative goe, but doesn’t, I’m looking at Kamila Valieva’s scores for example

Kolyada is not my fav skater, but admittedly his Lutz technique is superb!

@9afina

3 жыл бұрын

Kolyada and Hanyu has the wrong lutz technique. They places the toe at a completely straight angle (0 pre-rotation), which leads to an incorrect take-off. Therefore, they will never land steadily.

Flawless let’s technique that’s right

Nathan, Kolyada and Boyang 😍❤️ My favorite is Nathan’s 4Lz, so effortless so smooth.

It's very interesting that, unlike ladies, some men don't include Lutz in their programs

@mooony94

3 жыл бұрын

Because they have evolved to doing atleast 3 quads and 2 trixels, this leaves room for only 2 triple jumps, and most go with 3f or 3lo if any issue with 3lz

@yohanes2034

3 жыл бұрын

Men have more choices because most of them can do 3A and at least 1 or 2 type of quads whereas for ladies, if you don't do 1 type of triple jump then you can only do 6 triples at most in the FP (like Yuna did because she couldn't do 3Lo due to injuries).

I just hate the fact that people doing the correct and beautiful lutz did not get their point worth

OmO Yuma's technique shooked meh I thought his techniques are good

Feel like seeing Hanyu’s quad lutz again

@bb__v2452

3 жыл бұрын

Kevin is also the only one beside Yuzuru landed back-counter 3A (GPF 2019) which stunned the audience 😄 He did it only once

@SkateInsider

3 жыл бұрын

yasss praying yuzu to bring back a quad lutz next season 😚

Kevin ayoz’s jumps are just gorgeous

@Icandoitifiwant

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I know in THIS video his Lutz was a Triple and Chen's was a Quad, but I thought in THIS PARTICULAR video, Kevin's jump just looked more perfect than any of the others and obviously Nathan's was ROCK SOLID. And with the height Kevin had and how early he had completed the 3 revolutions, he could have easily landed a Quad here as well in my opinion.

@usaskjock

Жыл бұрын

@@Icandoitifiwant how about that Jason Brown split jump in the opening montage - wow

Great video ! What exactly was lacking Kolyada’s out of steps textbook 3 lutz with a great height and smooth landing, in order for the judges to give it +5 GOE? Tell me bc I have no clue

@Cherry-iq1xb

3 жыл бұрын

You know sometimes I wish that he gets scored like his ladies teammates all the time, I wonder why they don't give him high GOEs:((

@rop888

3 жыл бұрын

They don't seem too gung ho about giving men +5's for triples other than a 3A. Jason suffers the same for his 3F, even Nathan doesn't get that high of GOE for his triples.

@mooony94

3 жыл бұрын

@@rop888 yeah Nathan's 3lz felt like something he can do in his sleep yet he recieved a max of 3 GOE ???

Натан Чен и Коляда самые лучшие !

Just phenomenal Nathan. That's all.

Nathan is the best🎉🎉

So the 2 BEST and most technically executed in this video were Kevin Aymoz and Nathan Chen.... Those 2 guys were both FLAWLESS and Aymoz height was amazing!

@pilarsoto3784

Ай бұрын

Kevin hace. Triple Lutz, Nathan 4 Lutz!!!!!! Maravilloso muchachito hermoso!!!!!

Excellent vídeo but, what happened with Evgeni, Shoma, and Yuzuru? I can't watch them

Nathan Chen ! Effortless! Beautiful and Graceful !

Also they needs to tackle pre rotation and full blade assist...but I dont believe their technical analysis takes any of that into account, aside from flat or change of edge..

Love how in the men's competition some skaters have the decency to not perform a lutz if they aren't able to perform one correctly.

Nathan, the KING !!! 👑

Hahah) why do Not Italians commentators talk abouth the 4 lutz of Daniel or Mateo like They did with Aliev few years ago? So much hypocrisy.

Nathan the great. Made that textbook 4lz look so easy.

❤ En resumen Nathan es insuperable, 4 Lutz !!!!!!!; los demás 3;lutz. !!!!!!

Nathan❤

LOL!🙈 who’s lutz is better ?!Who has quad one - Chen of coarse !

Kolyada, Yuzuru and Boyang

@mishel1282

3 жыл бұрын

@@9afina Shoma Uno?

@9afina

3 жыл бұрын

@@mishel1282 For Hanyu.

Boyang Jin's lutz is out of this world.

You cannot compare 3Lz and 4Lz. It's not just another rotation. Chen is a genius, of course.

@divinearia1601

3 жыл бұрын

Doing a 4Lz(any quad, really) takes so much more control and stamina, and the force it takes to do one can throw your technique and entire body off. Just because you can use the right take-off technique doesn't mean you'll be able to land it either. The fact that Nathan can do the _entire_ process so consistently well and effortlessly puts him on a whole different level, IMO. This is someone who has true mastery of his technicalities and the art of the quads. I'm so amazed because, in his free skate, he doesn't even break from his character(of being in a super relaxed, low energy, meditative state) to do these quads. He was so casual in his approach, as if he was doing them half-asleep. Like, _how?_ Is it really _that_ easy?

@bereasonable8018

2 жыл бұрын

@@divinearia1601 In an interview Nathan said that when he does his routines he goes into a zen-like mode and he tunes everything out except the music. If he can truly do that then I see why he is so focused and relaxed at the same time. Let's not forget he's also actually calculating the points as he skates and he's also taking stock of how much energy he has to complete various moves. He really is from another world.

Should we notice that overall, the proportion of good lutz techniques is way lower on the newer generation?

I wish you had put them all in order at the end.

Han Yan omg

@SkateInsider

3 жыл бұрын

YASSS ROOTING HARD FOR HAN YAN AT BEIJING OLYMPICS 😃😃

Юзу❤️

Go nathan!!!!!

Skate Insider, same video with Flip, please ...

Misha Kolyada the Lutz King

han yang and kolyada are the best.

Yuma has to be training a quad lutz, there’s no way, the hight and speed he has

@mooony94

3 жыл бұрын

Technique is like shoma's tho

ネイサンがパーフェクトで嬉しい！

If only the olympics did this.

Выступление Нейтона Чена в Стокгольме разве можно сравнить с другими выступлениями. Его прыжки- это шедевры. А его перфоманс - лучше не бывает. Это сказка, чудо.

男子版初めて見た。ルッツの検証動画なんて、ほとんど女子ばっかりなんだよね。

@SkateInsider

3 жыл бұрын

女の子だけじゃなくて、これからも男性の動画分析に頑張ります、応援よろしくお願いします ☺️

I wish ISU watch this video!!

03:24 Why he doesn't try 4lz?? Super brilliant !!!!!!!!!+

Kolyada is the most beautiful skater

You are like the Halloween movies, you explained the rules but at the end those are not followed by your own comments. Nathan Chen indeed pre rotated, just an example of your contradictions.

@lulaulaf7111

Жыл бұрын

Hay que defender lo indefendible... se ve claramente la prerotacion, pero hay que justificar de algún modo los scores inflados... Dan risa, queriendo hacer grande a quien recibe regalos por parte de una federación corrupta y encima ni a las 15 medallas ganadas llega y ya lo quieren llamar G.O.A.T. Ni hablar!!!

@Unfiltered494

Жыл бұрын

Prerotation is when you rotate on the ice before getting into the air. Nathan does not do that. He uses light toe tap and gets into the air at 1/4 mark. That's not prerotation. Turning his upper body early doesn't matter as long us his feet are in the air and not on the ice. Look at the blades, not at the upper body. Just like underrotation is when your blade touches the ice too early, prerotation is when it leaves the ice too late. Upper body doesn't matter here at all. Learn what prerotation is before making stupid comments or shitting on this excellent video whose maker put a lot of work into AND made sure to be completely objective towards all skaters.

ネイサンの4Lzが最も成功率が高くgoeも高い最高のLzである

Кевин Эймоз потрясающий фигурист, конкуренция в Европе в мужском катании есть!

Side from Kolyada's triple and Chen's quad, it was all garbage....

I was surprised… Matteo’s lutz is tbh much worse than I had expected… It can’t be called ‘triple’

Коляда лучший!!!

You should be hired as the Technical Judge by the ISU. Also, shows how sloppy ISU judging is. Based on your analysis some of those skaters should have received negative GOE scores whilst others should have received higher GOE scores, but did not based solely on their lack of standing within the skating hierarchy.

On average Boyang Jin. Single best one = Kolyada.

Hanyu fans can say whatever about Nathan but one thing is a fact - he is an incredible technician. His technique is pitch perfect usually. That was an amazing quad lutz.

If we compare the Lutz technique for everyone, then the most correct lutz are from Boyang and Chen. They have a pre-rotation less than 1/8 of a rotation BUY THE WAY WHY YOU CALL IT 1/4?! , which is ideal for jumping lutz. But only Nathan Chen today is the only one who performs this jump successfully at every major competition, so I think your question about who has the best lutz technique is strange.

I hope your next video will be about F.

@mooony94

3 жыл бұрын

It won't be. Because yuzu does not do it 🤣

@9afina

3 жыл бұрын

@@mooony94 Than i will remember this channel in next video "Where is about 4F", bestie))))

@divinearia1601

3 жыл бұрын

@@mooony94...I'd love to see a video on the 4F technique of various skaters...and I can almost guarantee that Fanyus will still be in that video talking about how Yuzuru's attempts in practice are the best in the world or how he's so good at a 4F that he doesn't need to actually do any in competition to prove himself. It'll be fine ^^

@user-ql7dc5bd7k

3 жыл бұрын

His flip is “ridiculous !” I want to see attention F!

@flywings111

3 жыл бұрын

@@divinearia1601 there aren't even videos of yuzu attempting quad Flips, please stop mocking his fans without a reason