Thank you so much for watching this comparison! If you decide to pick one of these chairs up, please feel free to use my link as it'll help me swivel right round and... Pick up more chairs 😂 🛒 Secret Lab TITAN Evo 2022 - bit.ly/36WCGw0 🛒 Herman Miller Aeron - geni.us/aeronremastered Subscribe! kzread.info/dron/utube.html.com/VictorTan?sub_confirmation=1

Dude you really broke it down for both in every possible away, even including specific scenarios for each chair's use. Thank you for the review on both.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

You’re most welcome! I just happened to see this pop up as a notification, hence the lightning fast reply xD Thanks for stopping by and I’m glad you enjoyed the vid!

@Victor Tan Thx a lot Victor, i was looking for that kind of video, and you are the only one who did one. Now, it's easier for me to make my choice.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

You’re most welcome, Karl! It’s an honor to serve :D Thank you for watching!!

Good review, but I do wish the audio levels was normalised. Sometimes loud, sometimes quiet. Quite difficult to focus.

I wish your vocal volume is higher than the background music volume. The vocals are better than the previous video but still needs improvement imo

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Oh thank you for the feedback my dude! This video was the result of me receiving the result of engaging a freelancer and then trying to improve the result and then managing to do so… but with zombified audio 😭 Thank you for watching!! More to come in days ahead! ^^

Great video, however, can you go easy on the fast edits, and also the music is more louder than your voice.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching, Andy!! I’ll try to go easy on the audio - hadn’t mastered it by that point, but I’ll be doing better in videos ahead ^^

@andysingh2926

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan Nice one, mate. Good luck

Do you use the Atlas headrest a lot especially when you are working and not chilling?

Great review bro!, I feel you should have added Leap also as the 'mid' choice. Anyway, after trying all 3 chairs, I have no regrets getting the aeron as in my opinon is most suitable for our Malaysian weather and comfort for me is amazing. However. everyone should try out those chairs before purchasing

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching bro! Aeron is an incredible chair bro - enjoy sitting on a work of art x masterpiece ^^ Hahaha Leap I like a lot!! I could do a video comparing Aeron Leap and Secretlab at a later point, and maybe even include the Embody when it arrives - I agree that everyone should test these chairs out and maybe I’m a horrible chair KZreadr (what exactly is a horrible chair KZreadr LOL) because I don’t test any chair before actually buying it usually 😂 That said, sight unseen I would recommend the Leap, Gesture, and OM Truly if people don’t wanna or can’t meaningfully test out the chair and want maximum adjustability - otherwise gotta rely on sizing guides xD

I am debatig if I want black or white version... I wonder how much white versions stains and how well it would fit my ps5 ! But the black version is nicely speckled too

Thank you for this review! I had been debating on getting a SecretLab chair but I was also cautious because it's a gaming chair because I heard those are worse for ergonomics. It put me at ease that there is benefit to having a SecretLab chair (definitely better ergonomics than my current "gaming chair") but that of course the Aeron is better for that. You pointed out the SecretLab is better for relaxing which would be my main use case for the chair I would get so this has helped me decide on the SecretLab chair. Also the Aeron is wayyy out of my budget :| so luckily my use case fits better when it comes to the SecretLabs chair.

@VictorTan

Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad you like it Wizard! Thanks for watching for and for dropping by! Yes it is mega comfy and I use mine to this day for quick naps and resting - it’s a god tier chair for these purposes!! Hope you enjoy the chair when you choose to get it! If you’d like to support my work, would you do so by clicking the link in the description? Thanks a lot and have an incredible one ahead! V

@itsathejoey

Жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan Secret Lab chairs aren't comfortable. They destroy your tailbone eventually.

@Victor Tan Hey Victor, i had another question. Did you ever sit on a herman miller embody? If yes, which one do you think is better for gaming sessions? Herman miller embody or the titan evo 2022?

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Karl! I own one and use it as my work chair! I exclusively use my Titan for gaming and meditation though! Embody has no headrest and hence it’s a bit difficult to recline comfortably - the sacral support is fantastic, but it’s not suitable for engaging with content while reclining or for media consumption over a long period of time, in my opinion - definitely prefer Titan over that! For work though, Embody remains my preferred choice by a small but deciding margin :)

@karlbelley7188

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan Okay thank you very much, that helped.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@karlbelley7188 Glad to hear it! If you choose to get a Titan and would like to support my work, thanks for using the link in the description in advance!

Liked your video, but at the end of it, I still don't know what to pick... Basically I'm 192cm and 115kg and work about 10h on my chair, both look perfect to me but I do cross my right leg under the left one sometimes and I'm loking for something comfortable. As you have both and regarding your experience which one would you recommand me?

@alexworm1707

2 жыл бұрын

If you cross any leg under the other the aeron is a no go. If you cross one leg over the other then its ok.

👍🏻honest comprehensive review.. i sit on it when using PS5 & XSX.. I do have a low chair with soft pillow to rest my feet when I recline more… like a lazy boy chair

@VictorTan

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words and I'm glad that you found it helpful!

Why didn't you choose any of the Steelcase chairs that you've tried?

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching @Peanut Ann! I own the Leap! Got it for my mom - incredible chair as well! Gesture is better for head support though and I might pick that up later as well! Are you trying to decide between a couple of chairs at the moment?

@limwowo5902

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan yeah everyone says great things about aeron but covid makes it difficult. showroom visits are cancelled and shops even removed their return policies all because of 'covid'. i might not choose aeron in the end-just not worth buying something for 1k+ without even trying and no returns are allowed.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@limwowo5902 Oh no! Whereabouts in the world do you live? I was going to talk about the return policy but then you got me there 😂 I live in Malaysia, where just like in many Asian countries, returns just don’t exist 😭😭😭😭😭

Hey, Victor, i'm back again. Herman miller have a sale right now on their website and i was wondering which one you think is better between the embody and the aeron?

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Both are great! I use Aeron for downstairs and Embody upstairs and alternate between those and the titans for meditation and gaming sessions :) If you were to pick one you could go wrong with neither, but the Embody has depth adjustment and that’ll fit more people sight unseen, and the aeron opens up the possibility of a headrest though that’s extra and not from HM - enjoy your chair!

@karlbelley7188

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan Thank you!

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@karlbelley7188 you’re most welcome! Enjoy! ✅👍🖖

Tilt mechanism on the aeron is not only because of blood circulation, its for you not to bang your knees on your desk.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

You could be right tbh! 🖖 Depends on the desk height though!

@alexworm1707

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan nope, because it doesnt matter the table height, you should always be level with it, if we're talking about a ergonomic posture for tasking, wich means your thighs are always almost touching the desk. And that's why desks with drawers where you sit are always a no go. And why you should always get a thin tabletop.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexworm1707 Wowww! I didn’t even think about that! Thank you for sharing Alex! 🤯 To add to that (and I think this wasn’t in the video), I’ve also heard that it just allows for a different pattern of stress migration relative to the standard (non tilted) position that the chair is in - pain is a consequence of stress being locally restricted to a particular area of one’s body over long periods of time, and the tilt I’ve heard helps to migrate that stress periodically in a different fashion, which then helps to fix back pain.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexworm1707 Thank you for sharing!!

@alexworm1707

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan yep, the tilt is for redistributing your weight and relieve stress on your back. The worse thing you can do is to stay in position all day.

That's a really comprehensive review, blows mine out of the water 😂. Really nice to see coming from a fellow Msian. Was wondering if you have any thoughts on the takeaseat sail? Recently bought one for my folks back home.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching bro!! Really appreciate it :D You have a great channel! Let’s keep fighting to grow and provide more awesome and valuable content! Oh takeaseat! They recently followed me on Instagram, but I haven’t gotten the chance to try their chair yet! How are your folks liking the chair? Just looking at the chair itself with its multi piece backrest though, it looks a lot like the AMOffice Ergohuman! I haven’t tried that either but I would love to!

@thejxfiles

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan Thank you! I gotta say I really like your quick humorous and informative style. Folks say is pretty good, but to be fair they upgraded from a wooden stool and a bad generic office chair. Can't be home to verify it cos of cross border restrictions 🥲

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejxfiles Thank you JX! I’m still very much learning but am glad that my style has touched some people!! Looking forward to growing better in days to come! Very dutiful of you to get ergonomic chairs for your mom and dad! Hopefully we’ll all get to travel without ridiculous quarantines sometime soon 😭 In case you are interested, I’m building a group dedicated to ergonomic chairs catering to Malaysians and Singaporeans, which you can join here: facebook.com/groups/ergochairfanclub/ Looking forward to seeing you if you’d be interested to join but no worries if not - thank you again for watching and look forward to seeing you in many more videos ahead!!

@jamesmadison3108

2 жыл бұрын

I had the takeaseat sail mesh chair in year 2018..used it about 2 years, then sold it away, upgraded to a few other chairs like secretlab, royale, herman miller aeron classic and finally the herman miller aeron remastered. The bad thing about the sail is firstly the mesh don't feel as premium as the aeron's. Another major downside is that the sail has this front foam pad underneath the front lip of the seat. After my 2 years of usage, my sail chair has trapped dust in between the mesh and the foam and there is no way to clean it unless u rip put the foam pad underneath the seat. It gives a whitish dusty look and it happens at the front lip of the chair where the pad is. The herman miller aeron remastered probably has forsee this issue with mesh chairs thus they do away with the foam pad underneath. The aeron remastered has a tension based mesh that is very firm at the front lip area, thus the mesh won't sag down at that that area. The other parts of the mesh has lesser tension that allows the mesh to conform to your body while certain parts of the mesh like the front lip area is tension up tight. You can google it. It is called the 8z pellicle with 8 mesh zones with different tension strengths

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmadison3108 That's really cool bro! Learned a bit there that I probably wouldn't have thought about otherwise xD Thanks for sharing!

Racing style gaming chairs are the worst.

Im ready to pick a secrelab due to price, herman miller is too expensive for me rn. Im 1.74 / 93kgs, do u think regular will be good or XL could be better ? Thank you

@VictorTan

10 ай бұрын

I think that the XL could suit you better! Do consider picking that up via my link if you'd like to support my work :D Thanks a lot and enjoy your chair!

@leoparduswiedii8714

10 ай бұрын

@@VictorTan I will. Thank you sir

@VictorTan

10 ай бұрын

@@leoparduswiedii8714 Thank you for the support!

Should I go with artic white or cookies and cream?!

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha go with the Arctic white for sure if you like aesthetic! Cookies and cream... I think that's less easy to dirty? Still, they're both mainly white so if you do stain them then there might be a bit of an issue there xD

Hard to hear you with the music being louder than your voice

Secretlab or ergotune from Singapore?

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried the Ergotune chairs yet! I’d be interested to do so though - there are several good reasons to choose it, though I wouldn’t personally pick that over say a Leap or Gesture at the moment, which incidentally I prefer the Titan over on some levels, i.e. the reason I might purchase a Titan over a Leap, in the state of the world where I did not have both. Apart from mesh, the chair does seem to have certain desirable adjustable features not present on SL, such as synchro tilt, backrest height, and seat depth adjustment. On the level of an apple to apple peer chair comparison, I would say that the most similar chair I’ve seen to this is the Steelcase Think, which has all the above mentioned features but no backrest height adjustment, which from what I can see works in a similar fashion to that of the OM Truly and is accordingly subject to the same problems when you raise the backrest as it is impossible to get it to max height and requires you to adjust and ‘tune’ (lol) manually if you want to have it fit you. The armrests are the most questionable part of the chair, as reviewer Shawn Koh has observed. All told, looking at the chair and its features, it looks like a solid buy, but I wouldn’t say that I would pick it over Secretlab as the chairs are too different albeit sight unseen, Ergotune might be a better buy because of the adjustability. That said, please take everything I’ve said with a pinch of salt! I haven’t personally tried the Ergotune chair, but I hope to when I eventually visit Singapore - and hopefully, I’ll also get to try the Secretlab Neue when I do pop by ^^ Also haha, looks like they have the same name for their headrest as a certain company composed of ex HM designers cited at 11:01…

@athenaallen6119

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan agreed. But would you recommend getting a mesh over a titan 2022? Heard lots of story regarding the gimmick ergo chairs being good and all when they sag after 4 months

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@athenaallen6119 Mesh isn’t bad, but I would say that Aeron is one of the best choices if you’re going for a good mesh chair. I’m not sure about Ergotune specifically and I would try to see if I personally know someone who’s used the chair for long durations of time, though frankly speaking Secretlab does also have its problems - peeling of the leatherette, discoloration of the fabric… though things do wear down over time. Of this subset of things I think a Softweave secretlab chair would probably suit you best… unless you’re going for say an Aeron, which I can see from hundreds of different topics and pages about this chair, suggest that it’s one of those things that pretty much just remains in pristine condition no matter what.

@athenaallen6119

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan I was considering the pu leather but given the weather here in Singapore can be more humid than cool, I guess the softweave would suite my needs more. Though, I do dig the cyberpunk edition design 🤣

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@athenaallen6119 Yeah! It’s more humid for sure - Softweave is lots more breathable and I think it will work better for you! If you’d like to help out the channel, feel free to check out via the links in the description - full disclosure that these are income generating affiliate links; thanks so much in advance! 🙏

I got both, Victor is right, switch things up, the Titan 2022 is truly a remarkable chair, I can say that with confidence as I have both the SL Titan EVO XL 2022 and a Remastered Aeron size C fully loaded. Both awesome chairs, the lumbar function on the Titan absolutely does the job. They are simply two different beasts. I will say, the Aeron does demand a more proper posture, but you just feel like your sitting on a cloud, but you're sitting on that cloud *properly*! The mesh seat is airy, I can barely tell I'm sitting on it, and I found myself almost falling asleep in the Aeron it's that comfortable, it is a Next Level Chair, I sometimes figure I'll just never get out of it - ever. The SL Titan, can cross both worlds, but doesn't rock out the posture the way the Aeron chair does. I was contemplating getting rid of one of them, then figured I'll keep both - they're both great chairs!

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, Andrew! I’m so glad that you enjoy your chair and hope that it supports you well for many days and years to come! Yeah, I think that they complement one another and I use both every day! I’ve been using the Titan a bit more for gaming, though! Have a wonderful day ahead, appreciate your support, and here’s to your good health in days ahead!

embody all day baby

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I’m using the Embody rn actually! One Embody upstairs, Aeron downstairs, four Titans hanging around as TV/gaming/meditation chairs xD

I'm a six foot four man and I actually crouch on my computer chairs like an extremely ugly gargoyle when I play computer. Which chair is better in that regard?

@VictorTan

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply! 100% Secretlab! I fear that if you try to do that on the Aeron you will fall through the mesh if you’re not careful 😅

Secretlab all the way, best bang for bucks.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I think that's 100% true :D I tried to find a corresponding ergonomic (as in office chair, not ergonomic quality) chair equivalent that's of the same price and quality - I struggled. Seriously, Think and Series2 from Steelcase are the only products I've seen that are of a similar quality and pricing (but which lose out on appearance, for obvious reasons), though I'm keeping an open mind and saying that I've just not seen the full scope of what's actually out there!

The Herman Aeron is definitely a better chair. I got mine for $300 just like new and love it.

@Xuch

2 жыл бұрын

how in the f- where, I had one given to me by my uncle but it was size A, and im HUGE lmao

@Jonsbasecamp

Жыл бұрын

@@Xuch e-bay

Why so many dislikes? Good video

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching Fareed! I have to confess that I don’t know, but if someone who dislikes this does come by to comment, I’m sure that it would be an interesting discussion! If I had to guess, it’s probably because some people just innately don’t like the idea of a gaming chair being compared to the likes of the Aeron because in their view, that’s not even a comparison that should be made in the first place…

@fareed4887

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan no problem, subbd.

@VictorTan

2 жыл бұрын

@@fareed4887 Thanks Fareed! Really appreciate it - thank you for watching my content and I look forward to bringing you more soon! I’ll be uploading a video about the Embody today; look forward to it!

@alexworm1707

2 жыл бұрын

@@VictorTan probably because your audio sucks BIG time