Seems like the air being pushed into the garbage bin would be trying to expand the garbage bin since it has no way to escape (except for any leaks). This would probably be hard on the extractor motor on the planer, and also decrease the chip extractor efficiency.

This is exactly the idea I was looking for! Thank you!

Looks simple & straight forward Thanks for sharing. Top marks, mate.

I have mine connected to shop vac with cyclone tube and it seems to work just fine. I'm happy because its fast and quick to setup and empty.

This is a brilliant idea. I'll be heading to the hardware shop tomorrow. Thanks so much for sharing this idea.

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad it helped! It has worked for me very well! going on 4 years now.

@ussammytube

8 ай бұрын

​@ParklanCustom how has this worked for you? Would you do anything different?

Where does the air go if you've got the bin all closed up? Wouldn't that decrease the efficiency of the blower in the thicknesser?

Great video!

I have a similar set-up. Get the smaller micron bag. I have no problem with dust. Bag fills up fast if you do a lot of planing.

Awesome idea, definitely going to try this! So tired of constantly sweeping haha

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

I had enough dealing with the dust, the only problem I have now is just emptying the bag (which isn’t a big deal)

Great video. Thanks man👍

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for stopping by! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks, I'm going to use this on mine

Nice! Thanks for the video.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by!

I use my dust collector with it and it works fine. I used to use a shop vac and that worked fine as well.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

My shop vac makes it clog up every time, that’s why I came up with another method

@davidk8504

9 ай бұрын

What brand and model of collector are you using?

Good idea if you don't have a large dust collector. I have older Dewalt planner that shoots to one side. I hook 4" hose on exhaust port to my dust collector header. Chips go through a small cyclone for collection and rest goes to harbor freight DC. I was going to try your method but hook shop vac to collector barrel with a baffle inside to force Chips down to bottom.

Bravo!

I like it, but I have no issues using a high CFM Shopvac with mine, except of course how fast you fill it. I often just point it into my garden beds then spread the chips lol.

Great solution. Would a hose from the bucket into a small secondary container containing water not only trap small dust particles but also to relieve the pressure?

Dust Deputy cyclone .. Best Buy I’ve ever made on Amazon

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

I use the Dust Stopper from Home Depot and it has been great.

Looks good. Curious why you say a shop vac or even a 4-inch dust collection hose and suction would cause the chips to clog the back of the dust port on the machine?

Nice

I use a shop vac and it works good.

Funny to run across this. I tried virtually the identical thing. Same adapter and everything. The problem, if you want to call it that, is the chip fan is so powerful it blows the top off the trash can. I tried to bungee it down, still did it. Made a locking system but gave up on that after growing tired of the ten minute process to open and seal it. Tried cutting a vent into the side with a filler on it but that clogs up so quickly that the air pressure pushed the top open again. Then I tried to exhaust it into a cyclone that I installed on top of a locking 55 gallon steel drum. The other end of the cyclone exit i attached a filter. That actually worked very well but I grew tired of the loss in mobility and the space that it took up. I ended up doing the trash can idea like this but with a better twist. Those dustright bags full up extremely quick. You can purchase a 36" X 72" piece of 5 micron filter fabric. Sewed it together to make a bag that acts like a liner for the trash can like you have but with a much larger bag and smaller particle pickup. Then added 6 T-Bolts I had left over from toilet installation for the bungees to easily attach to. Whatever escapes the filter bag just coats the inside of the trash. There is still some dust that escapes but at least this way it's not enough to where you need a respirator.

@ashokmoghe8035

Жыл бұрын

Great ideas. One question about your latest setup with homemade dust bag. Do you need any exhaust holes in the outer can for air to escape? TIA.

if i cant get the dust right bag - could i just do the exact same set out just without the bag?

I'll be getting this planer soon, and watching all these videos made me think. DeWalt makes this planer, then they think.. Oh we should put a blower motor in it! So now, they take what was a $500 planer, turn it into a $600 planer thus making the consumer pay MORE just to put a dust collection system together for it. It would of been better NOT to put the blower in, and let us use our shop vacs or dust systems to do the work.

I have seen several of these hooked up to dust collectors and are working well. Seems that the trick is to use a 4” port and hose/piping to the collector though.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

You can hook them up to the low pressure high air flow dust collection systems. If you try to use even a 4" port on a high velocity dust collection system like a shop vac it wont work, it will just end up clogging up the planer.

@jimcarter7742

2 жыл бұрын

I use my Delta dust collector with a 4” hose. I don’t even turn it on. The planer blows the dust right into it. Neve4 have had a clog. My problem is that workpieces snag the hose on the outfeed side and pull it off if I don’t watch it closely.

Excellent idea. Thanks for sharing. I like how the can will trap most of the dust. Three questions: 1. Does it matter if one uses a 4-6 inch coupling on the bag end of the hose rather than the 4-3 one you used. It seems like the 4-6 would make it easier to hook up the bag due to the big bag opening, assuming one uses an 8-inch clamp or so (which I have). 2. Does it make sense to drill some small holes, so on the underside of the can to allow pressurized air to exit downward (rather than from the top around the lid) where hopefully the little dust that escapes will get trapped on the floor beneath the can and won’t easily float into one’s nose? 3. What size trash can are you using?

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

That does sound like a couple of good upgrades!

Any idea if the would work on the 734 plainer? I’ve used a shop vac and it keeps clogging. Looking for any solution I can find to get it to not clog.

My planer starts kickin dust out from where the dust port in between the blades is? Why would this happen?

I wonder if it would help to also hook up your shop vac to the trash can to collect the dust that escapes through the bag? Might not do anything but it might would be fun to try.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting thought! I may try that!

I think the confusion everyone is having is that your initial statement was "you can't hook up dust collection to it", which is incorrect. Later you clarified that's it's shop vacs (with smaller diameter hose) that will cause the clogging. 4" hose from a dust collector to the planer should work just fine.

@ParklanCustom

4 ай бұрын

Thats right, I should have known people are paying attention to the full video. But yes, you can hook up a larger dust collector to it, however the shop vac will only work with very light use.

I use a shop vac no issue at all

I use two planers, I use a Delta for the first heavy cuts and I use the Dewalt when I need a smooth as a baby butt surface.

Good video. Well done. Quick question. Is there an added benefit to using the dust bag vs having it all just go into the garbage bin? Or is it just for ease of transporting the shavings later?

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

First, thank you for the complement. As to your question, yes there is a benefit to using the bag. If you only use the trash can, the air needs to be able to circulate and escape, without the bag, A lot of the dust particles and chips will escape from the sides of the lid or anywhere else there is an opening which would defeat the purpose of the system, Having the bag catches most of the dust and debris, while allowing mostly clean air to escape. Its kind of like a filter. Some dust does escape the bag, but what escapes the bag is generally caught by the trash can itself. The can cannot be air tight bc air pressure will build up and cause it to ultimately explode. If you have any other question, please let me know. I hope this helps!

@pulper11

2 жыл бұрын

@@ParklanCustom thanks for the response. Appreciate it.

@HIMEESE

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Looking for something simplistic and quick without a lot of crap. No exhaust port is a bonus, less work. Something that does the job is all I'm looking for. Did your setup and works great so far. Just need to get me a bag. Thx for the idea and the share. Cheers from 🇨🇦!!

Take it a step further and hook your shopvac to the trash can. Just a thought.

I wouldn’t say it’s the best but if you are working with little else it does do the trick. I hope you have a dust mask. Be safe.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by, The bag only method was by far the worst method I tried, this method has worked so much better with preventing the dust. If you have any suggestions let’s us know! I am hoping we can all learn from each other! 🙂

@earlcummings3653

2 жыл бұрын

This seems like a game changer to me and I plan to use it........just curious what is your better idea ......seems like you got several from your post.....please share

@TheDustyShed

2 жыл бұрын

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My understanding is the fan in the planer is used not only for chip ejection but also for cooling. Has anyone experienced overheating issues ? Clearly this system, and almost any other dust collection solutions will inhibit the air flow to some extent.

Nice! Is it still working out for you? Thinking of rigging one of these up..also saw that rigid jointer in the background..do you recommend it?

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

The dust collection system on my dewalt planer is doing great, the only downside is emptying the bag, as for the rigid jointer, it has worked exactly as I expected, it’s smaller and doesn’t take up a lot of room, but much better than a bench top model, it does just fine with hardwoods even hickory. Downsides are capacity, the 6 1/8 isn’t much but if that’s all you have you can definitely make it work.

@anwarcure1181

Жыл бұрын

@@ParklanCustom Thank you

My shop vac works great!!!

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

Most people I know have the same issues with a shop vac and this particular planer

@pavelkolp

2 жыл бұрын

What shop vac setup are you using?

@johnholms1839

2 жыл бұрын

@@pavelkolp 5.0 Rigid.

Exactly like a bag hoover.

I suggest you take a look at Katz-Moses video on the dangers of small particles related to dust collection.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your concern :)

Why is a hose into a bag contained within a bin any different to a hose connected to dust extraction unit/shop vac?

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

Unless your shop vac unit has a 4in inlet and hose, it will get clogged. I dont have a large dust extraction system which would work fine with this, but not a shop vac, it will clog it up. Since the planer has a internal fan it actually blows the chips out by itself, and the hose going in the bag catches the chips and dust, and the can contains what dust does escape the bag.

How is the air venting from the trashcan?

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

The lid isn’t air tight, so it escapes from around the rim of the lid

I hooked up a shopvac and had no issues

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

Never worked for me sadly.

With no exhaust the blower on the planer will eventually burn up. I think the chip flow is greatly reduced with no exhaust. My system uses a 4" hose/pipe from the planer to a 55 gallon drum. My dust collector connects to a separate fitting on the drum. The chips collect in the drum and fines go in the dust collector bag. You need to hook a shop vac to your trash can to help pull air through the system. Also get rid of the bag in the trash can. The chip will drop in the can and the shop vac will pull out the dust.

@ParklanCustom

6 ай бұрын

I may give that a try! Thanks for the tip!

Remove the impeller and then hook up a shop vac.

So given you dont vent the trash bin to atmosphere, and the dust bag is inside the bin essentially being sealed in - what is the purpose of the dust bag? Could you not just have a pipe going into the bin, sealed, and get away from having a dust bag at all? If the bag is sealed inside the bin, then what is the bag actually doing other than holding the shavings and dust inside it. Could the bin not do the same thing, and you simply disconnect the hose and empty the entire bin, rather than having to deal with a bag? If the dust cant get out of the bin, what is the bag even doing?

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

The bag is the filter, the air escapes from around the lid.

Can you use a shop vac filter bag instead of a dust bag?

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose you could, but it would fill up extremely fast, even the large shop vac bag are only 16 gallon which isn’t much considering how much dust and chips are produced from plaining.

@woodcraftbynieves

2 жыл бұрын

True. Thanks! Great video.

Where does the air go though? Doesn't the air pressure build up blow off the lid?

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

I talk about it in the video.

why the bag, Where is the suction produced from ? Im confused . I run mine thru a shop vac and a dust Cyclone Dust Separator Kit. and a garbage can . no bag

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

The dewalt planer has a fan built in that blows out the chips, The bag is to catch the dust, Combining the planer with a shop vac will often time clog the planer.

Couldnt you just shoot it all direct into the trash can and silicone around the hose on the lid to keep the dust on? Seems like that would work well and you wouldnt have to be constantly undoing the bag to empty it.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

The problem with that is, is the air has to be able to escape the trash can, and the bag is like a filter that catches all the dust and debris. It cannot be air tight, because it would build up so much pressure to the point of explosion.

@PCPAyLOAD

2 жыл бұрын

@@ParklanCustom didnt realize the dw750's fan was that powerful good to know. I just ordered the planer and am planning out my dust collection. Thanks

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

@@PCPAyLOAD Absolutely! Yes it is powerful, there is a warning on the back to not put your hands or stand behind the chip ejections port.

So. Where does it exhaust. Air goes in but where does it come out??

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

If you watch the full vid, I explain that

@colinabell3672

2 жыл бұрын

I might have missed something

@jbrickey

Жыл бұрын

I wondered that too. You stated that no exhausting was required. Maybe since the trash can isn't airtight then the air finds a way to escape. After a year of use how is it working out?

@east5871

9 ай бұрын

Excess air is absorbed by the wood chips!

How does the air vent out of the trashcan?

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

From the top around the lid, the air pushes the lid up that’s what the bungee cords are for to hold it down and it escapes from around the rim

Of course you can hook up a dust collector to this. I use it everyday. A 4” hose runs to my system, no problem. I don’t understand why you say it can’t?

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

A SHOP VAC not a Dust Collection system, is what has trouble with this planer.

@deborahrouchon7740

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I’m sorry. I misunderstood.

Have you tried it without the bag? Just straight into the garbage pail?

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

The bag helps to contain the small dust particles, because the air has to exhaust from the trash can and if you have no bag, the dust will fly out with the exhaust.

@chip7646

Жыл бұрын

@@ParklanCustom thank makes sense. Thank you for the advice

Weird. Sweet system but mine is hooked up to my rigid shop vac and works fine.

@JP-kp9bg

2 жыл бұрын

I never could get mine to work with a shop vac

@kevinb6102

2 жыл бұрын

@@JP-kp9bg dang. I’ve only ran mine with hard maple. I’ll have to try out some other woods!!! Thx for the info

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

My shop vac caused it to clog up all the time, that’s why I came up with another method

@kevinb6102

2 жыл бұрын

@@ParklanCustom that is Strange hopefully mine keeps working haha

I don't understand why you would have trouble with a dust collector or shop vac? I use a Ridgid shop vac coupled with a dust stopper with my DW735 and I've never had an issue. This is probably the least messy tool in my shop.

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure how much plaining you do with yours, i actually do a lot of planning and every time I’ve used a shop vac the plainer gets clogged up. Most people I know have the same issue. However if you do not, that’s terrific. Besides the clogging, the method I use allows for much more chip collection that my dust stopper because it’s just a utility bucket the chips go.

@joshuabees

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed a lot of escaped chips/dust when using it on taller lumber (like getting the edges of a 2x6) otherwise I agree

I don't need this yet mine is still new in the box with not a single wood chip

what if you just put a garbage bag over the bag and pull the drawstrings of the garbage bag so it tightens around it. bag in a bag.

Is that the 15 or the 40 gallon bag?

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

It’s the larger one, not sure how many gallons, but you definitely need the biggest one you can get to avoid from having to dump it every 5 seconds

Why not just use a garbage bag in the can that way when full just throw tha bag away?

Do you even need the bag? Why not directly dump in the can?

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

The bag catches all the small particle and dust, without the bag, the dust would fly back out of the can via exhaust.

Air still has to escape out of your garbage can and you have no provision for air escape. So in reality you are choking off air flow. Air flow is very important for chip and dust collection. Connecting your Dewalt to an extra dust collector works way better than your system. I know from experience!!

@ParklanCustom

2 жыл бұрын

You may want to watch the whole video or read prior comments about the air exhaust.

@MrJapajo

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I tried it going straight to the can and the pressure build up was so strong it blew the lid off and made a huge mess

@nelsondog100

3 ай бұрын

I agree but the escaping air should also be filtered

Just did a few passes on my brand new 735 to test it out and now I got chips all over my garage 🤣😭

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

did you make sure you used hoes clams to secure it? lol

Let me mention AGAIN…the dust gets EVERYWHERE EVERYWHERE

how does the air escape the garbage can. operation is ----The air is captured by the planer blower and used to discharge the particles into the bag so where does the air exhaust go?. the can will pressurize and the air flow will reduce as filter blocks up....I think you are going to have to put a small vacuum hole in the top of the can to let the air purge out of the garbage can into a a vacuum cleaner. free flow air in and an equal amount of air out. Just sayin....

Why would you have to have a bag

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

The bag is the filter, which catches all the particulate.

Bro you could just as easily just seal the trash can and use it as your bag! By the way look like you blades where bad!

Best I can tell, all you accomplished was ruining a trash can. Where is the air going?

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

The video explains where the air is going..

@terencenewlin5265

Жыл бұрын

All the video says about it is you said it doesn't need an exhaust. Physics will say it does. If you have pressurized air and chips going in, you have to let air out. Is not you just clog up the hose and planer exhaust.

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

@@terencenewlin5265 common sense says, trash can lids are NOT air tight, and neither is the hole cut in the top where the reducer goes in, also if you didn’t catch it’s a 30 micron bag (filter bag) so the air escapes from the bag and from around the lid, that’s what the bungie straps are for, to hold the lid down (while the air escape from around the lid).. I’ve been using this set up for about 2 years, never had a clog once… hopefully this helps! 👍

@terencenewlin5265

Жыл бұрын

Ok. You finally admitted the fault in your setup. If you have air escaping the trash can. You also have fine dust escaping the trash can. Almost the same as having the "dust right" bag out in the open. You would be better off sealing the trash can and incorporating an exhaust with a 3-5 micron filter.

@ParklanCustom

Жыл бұрын

@@terencenewlin5265 the trash can will catch most of the fine dust that escapes the bag due to something called surface tension and static, if you want to put a 3 micron bag in there go for it, I never said you couldn’t, and if you want to take extra steps to create an extra exhaust port with additional filtering, you certainly can. I never said you have to do it exactly like mine.