Folks pay attention. This has changed my filing unbelievably. This channel has so much to offer, but the filing is a game changer.

@BuckinBillyRaySmith

7 ай бұрын

Glad it has helped brother

@cameronhamer9432

7 ай бұрын

@@BuckinBillyRaySmithdo you find on side of the file is sharper ? I turn the file until I really fell it cut

@williamdyckman9704

7 ай бұрын

Billie, I learned alot by watching your chainsaw filing! Thank You !!

@dx63

7 ай бұрын

That is education. Thanks you Buckin' Billy Ray Smith, from Greece.

@johnstockdale4002

7 ай бұрын

@@BuckinBillyRaySmith Easiest way my grandfather taught me is like yourself. The way he always said the properly filled tooth on the chain should wrap around the file. The file should be wrapped around by the chain of the tooth. Love your show and experience and explanation. I have tuned many people to your channel and style as it’s the best. Was taught to do it properly the first time and every time from then on. Easy when you know how. Love you and God Bless. Keep up the amazing work and advice. John and Cathy Ontario

Good day; I've been watching your videos, not for long but this video has taught me a lot about filing. Now I'm 74 years old, and no expert with saws, but I've done my fare share, never realized how to sharpen a chain properly, I've always used a 3/16 file. So I find out this old dog can still learn the proper way to do things, thank you. On another note, it is great seeing good Canadian content. I think there is to many people putting BS on here, GO CANADA!!!

@19Kamau79

Ай бұрын

What's your experience about file hitting the drivers? I mean when teeth are truly wearing out and getting shallow, in that point it's hard to file without hitting them. Is it rare chain to be snapped caused by damaged drivers?

This is a very good example of a simple life skill: If it isn't working, try something differently, search for answers, ask a friend, look up a video - whatever. The only time to quit is when something else is more important. I just had one of the best days in a very long time and what happens? I come home and am enthralled by someone skillfully sharpening a simple chain.

@BuckinBillyRaySmith

7 ай бұрын

We love you jon

I’m doing much better filing since I’ve been watching your videos over the last few years. I used to use a dremel tool. Now I’m using good quality files. Thanks to you Buckin!

BBR gave me back my life after losing my wife. I no longer need a shrink or grief counseling and I no longer need to watch spiritual and motivational videos except these. Know what I’m saying? This IS my path to healing now. Thank you Buckin’. Taking my life back one stroke at a time! Woohoo

@letsdothis9063

7 ай бұрын

Good man. Grief is natural. It sounds like you were very close to her. She would definitely want you to enjoy your remaining years. You can do that and miss her at the same time. I hope that all is as good as it can be.

@OnceUponAnotherTime

7 ай бұрын

Totally get what you're saying. Postive, healing energy in Buckin's videos. Soul calming. Restoring. Peace, brother.

@pauls.2308

6 ай бұрын

BBR is merely a vessel; it is GOD Who is Healing you Through BBR 👍🏾💜🙏🏾✝️💪🏾

@justindevincentz208

6 ай бұрын

Listen. Grieving is part of life. You can't let it drown you, though. Take whatever time you need, get it out. Then tie your boots and start getting after it. I'm sorry for your loss.

@traviscarr6536

6 ай бұрын

I’ve heard tell of this Billy Ray character. I am 10 seconds into the video and if I don’t hear the man talk about getting the gullet then I’m shutting it down. Word on the street is you got to get that gullet fellas.

I freaking love it. I started using power saws a few years back and instantly used your older sharpening videos as gospel. Now I can add this to the list. I watch them on Saturday morning while I drink coffee waiting for the sun to come up and get started in the woods.

Nice close up shots where there is no question as to what is right and wrong in filing. I have filled for many years and how much I have learned to improve is amazing. As you say it’s all about the filing. 👍♥️

@MrBilld75

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's one of the best things about this vid, his camerawork was excellent. He was conscious of not shadowing and placing his hands in positions that gave the viewer a great view.

These chain sharpening videos are among the best and most important ones you make because sawing with a sharp chain vs a beat up chain is the difference between day and night. This is why you need to do a video on this topic every several months (which you do)...to get to the newbies to the channel. I'm a weekend warrior who lives in the woods and I've used a chainsaw for 50 years and just recently learned from you about the gullet. Oh Lord, what a difference. 50 years! Where have you been my whole life?!

I been cutting trees for around 20 years and for me learning how to sharpen a saw has been the most challenging thing for me to learn, I get by but I know I can do better, Thank you for taking the time to teach us your way

Ah brother you're a living ,breathing treasure trove of knowledge. No one can watch your videos all the way through and not gain needed information. Always look forward to learning and hopefully being able to get better. Hope you and yours are all safe.

I came here years ago just to learn how to file my own chains. Ive gotten pretty good with this knowledge but a refresher is always nice. I love when buddies with bigger nicer saws cant figure out how my smaller and midsized saws can cut circles around them. Keep the faith Brother. God bless.

Watching this video(twice) I've come to the conclusion I've wasted about forty years doing it wrong Billy. Thank you for your instruction on all things chainsawing and especially on the chain side of things. You're a gent! Cheers from H B. N Z

@BuckinBillyRaySmith

7 ай бұрын

Not wasted brothe Cliff just more prepared for better application now

I get the gullet ... I put a good edge on the tooth and I get under that top plate or whatever it's called... and I learned it all from your videos. Thanks Buckin'. Not kidding: I cut with the same chain with no sharpening for 3 years. Not a lot of cutting...just yard maintenance but still... Then I watched your Chainsaw Sharpening School video and my lord! Chips were flying! After that I only got better. I know that I already said thanks Billy...but thanks!

I haven't used a guide since watching your videos. You gave me 100% confidence in my abilities and this one is a great refresher that nails it all down. Out of ALLLL the videos I've watched, you're the best. You explain it like no other and, you just happen to live nearby. Thank you for sharing the knowledge!

Thank you Buckin for taking the time to explain sharping a powersaw. Your older videos of sharping helped me fine tune my sharping skills. Love it Brother. Thanks again.

The title of this video is spot on. I just shared it with 10 people. This is your best fileling video to date for me and my family and friends. Thank You Buckin. I have small saws that keep up with big saws thanks to your sharpening videos.

I’ve learned so much from your videos. Your sharpening has helped me so much. Me and my saws are thanking you ✊🏻

Wow I just recently started filing my own chains and this video is an absolute game changer. I appreciate you taking the time to do an in depth video so a novice like myself can really understand what your going for . Thanks again Billy Ray

Buckin up to a couple years ago when I found you I couldn't file worth a damn. Now it's such a joy to run a saw. Thank you!

After numerous videos on sharpening, I finally GOT it, The ski jump made all the difference, Thank you Billy, much obliged!

Best sharpening video I’ve ever seen. Great close-up photography and terminology for the beginner. Thank you.

Mr Smith, Just wanted to say thank you for this video and it's lessons. I have been a seasonal wood cutter for years and just tried to figure out how to sharpen a chain on my own. This video really helped me I tried what you showed and made a huge difference. Thank you again Sir for your time and lessons.

Thank you sir for this fantastic video. I was raised by a log cutter and have watched him my whole life. Watching this video is one of the best ways I have ever seen it done and explained. I'll definitely be trying all this out on my next filing job.

I finally have a better understanding about rakers & how to file them... thank you for still sharing your knowledge with us! I love when you show your wood stove with a beautiful fire roaring inside...God Bless ya Buckin 👍😊🪵💪🪓✝️☮️

Thank you Buckin that was great. I’m still working on my filing and this one certainly helps. Great meeting you at Bunyan. Love ya Scott Kearney

Awesome video brother!! I watched a sharpening video you posted several years ago i believe, and it was a game changer for me!! I have taken your knowlege that you shared, and have shown other people how to correctly sharpen a chain free hand with a round file!! Im serious!!! I had every gadget, 2 in1, roller gauge, contraption shaklanker tool they made, and i havent touched one in years😊😊 this IS the only way to sharpen for me know. Thanks a ton Buckin for your knowledge of powersaw chain sharpening, and sharing it with all of us!! God bless friend, and much love from my family to yours✌️🤙👍👍🤝🌳🌳🌲🌲🪵🪓

I thought my chain was in rough shape I sent you pics of the other night…..until I saw this nightmare of a chain. You brought it back to life! Great video as always, just more awesome info I needed. Thanks @Buckin’ Billy Ray

Incredible description,I finally got, get the gullet. Thanks for all the different angles,Buckin, this has to be one of my favorite videos.

Wow buckin, so crystal clear when you explain stuff, so passionate, i feel myself being better just by watching your videos, thx for all the tips my friend, have a wonderful day!!

So as a young male over the years of watching good old buckin I've learned so much more about my powersaws and the proper ways to take care of my tools and be a better man in the process. Hope there's more out there that will get the same from this amazing man

@BuckinBillyRaySmith

7 ай бұрын

Glad you are here . Thx friend

Im not a tree guy, felling feller or anything of the sort. I'm a welder, but boy, do i love power saws. Anything 2 stroke, honestly. I live on the md/pa line, and wood is my source of heat in the winter. Watching buckin changed my firewood experience. Heck, life experience. I went out in the garage a few years ago when i started watching, put the saws in the vice, and got to work. I went starred cutting, and the thing was jumping all over the place. I said what the heck. Maybe it doesn't work with hardwood. Nope, i took 2 seconds, thought about what i was doing, and rewatched the videos. I wasn't putting the racker gauge on right all this time. Hit those rackers and man was she hungry. I loved it. Instantly hooked on filing. Even the little T-handle stihl was getting after it after the filings. She's old. I can't remember what model off the top of my head, but it's a good 25 years old. I do use a file guide when im out in the field and dont have a vice. There, i said it. Go ahead and start busting my chops.

All these years of hearing "get the gullet" and I finally have a clear idea of what that is. thanks Buckin, yu are a wealth of knowledge (and entertainment)

Friend.......I love these videos and your delivery to the crowd. What a great teacher. Thank you , sir.

The fellow that use to cut my trees and split my wood....died. I'm having to learn exactly how to file a chain and this is the BEST explaination of such on you tube, barr none!!!! :):) I can not thank you enough for the time you took explaining and showing, over and over....I got it!!!

@MATT.MAN-PEACE-LOVE

6 ай бұрын

Welcome to the buckin army 🪖 Spread the love Increase the peace ✌️❤️🌲🪵🪓🐝

Nice wisdom my friend.. I’m making my kid watch close so I can quit filing his saws for him. Sometimes another adult can explain in a way your kid will listen too. I don’t know how you can deal with that chain loose on the bar.. I have to tension my chain or I rock the tooth back too much. I may push too hard on my file, but an old machinist once told me “a cutting tool stays sharper longer be it a file, blade, or drill bit”. If its cutting it stays sharp, if its skipping then it dulls quicker. *edit now that I’ve watched more on the video I can see your quick tension system I LIKE IT Looks good Buckin, you’re a good teacher and a great friend!

The best sharpening video ive ever watched. The more you file with the knowledge you give the better one becomes. Thank you Buckin fir sharing. Learning all the time.

What brand file are you using? All of my files don’t cut as well as your do.

The tutorials make this channel GREAT. Get the Gullet

Super videography! 👊 Super tutorial!👊 I’ve watched them all by now, I think. Thank you for taking the time to produce such stunning videos. 🙏

Been a while since I have watched you Buckin’ and I don’t know why. You are the best. Incredible video and your attitude is infectious. Thank you!!!

These filing videos are what brought me to Buckin’s channel so many years ago. I was watching some other channel (rhymes with Manglerstar) and he was spouting off with some insults about soy boys and a bunch of other nonsense and I thought there must be somebody out there who actually knows what they are doing and who has a different energy. Well, here he is… the real deal. I don’t know how many times I have watched and re-watched Buckin’s sharpening videos and I learn something every time. My filing is so good now that when I took my saw in for a repair the guy who owns the local saw shop thought I was cheating on him and taking my saw to a different shop to have my chains sharpened. I told him I did it myself and who taught me. He wanted the name of the channel… probably a subscriber now, too. 😅

@Tony.795

7 ай бұрын

The creator in question has gone off the deep end.

@leebdj1949

7 ай бұрын

Yes, have left that channel far behind as well. Never leave Buckin’s on a low note. 😄🇨🇦

Great information, I started sharpening my chains after watching a video of yours, you explained the process in great detail so at that point is when I started sharpening myself, I get a much sharper chain, throws big shavings and last longer than when I used to take the chains in for sharpening.

I love watching your videos about sharpening chains. I learned so much from you. Great video keep them coming.👍

I’ve watched several your videos This is by far the best tutorial on chainsaw sharpening I’ve ever seen. Much appreciated

@BuckinBillyRaySmith

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Well brother, I see I've been doing it a little wrong for a long time. I have something to change since watching this video. But it's not the first time I've learned something from your videos... and I'm sure it won't be my last. Thank you so much for your work on these videos and taking the time to teach. It's knowledge like yours that needs to be shared and I'm certainly glad you do. What I like is you're not trying to sale us anything... you're just sharing your knowledge and experience with us. I appreciate that Billy Ray

Buckin, Thank you for this video. I love watching all your videos. Tthe message you give it is awesome. I wish more people in this world were kind. Positive uplifting and informitive. Thank you again. Good man.

Had the pleasure of asking my dad for some guidance on my saw chain sharpness. He cleared utility lines in his youth and he suggested that I was over sharpening and the C gullet was too pronounced and may lead to chipping on the top of the front edge of the cutting tooth (which it had). The capital C tooth gullet he recommended matched yours exactly versus the lower case C that I was using. Also, I was a wee bit high with the rakers so taking those down also helped. In short, thank you for sharing! Feels great when you receive good advice/guidance and makes life even better when you can help out others and share in your way.

This video helped me so much!!! Ive seen a lot of your file videos but, this one with the close up's and different angles helped me to see what you were talking about.

Ya know I have to agree, this is the best chainsaw sharpening video yet. It totally amazes me how many full grown men don't know how to sharpen a chain. They really don't, not even with the cheater bars or whatever you call em. I grew up with a chainsaw in my hands and I had to learn young. I understand this mans anguish I truly do. Thanks for the video brother.

Excellent educational video. I’ve learned a lot from you over the years. I only hand sharpen my saw chains now. Thank you Billy Ray!

Brilliant instructions Billy. Never have used a guide to sharpen, but this video has really lifted my sharpening skills for sure. Thanks for your time and effort.

You sir taught me to file 3-4 years ago on this here interweb and I'm thankfull.

Wish I could like this video twice, thank you buckin for your great wealth of knowledge!

You are the BEST!!!! buckin, you are correct best video on sharpening EVER!!! thank u sir for taking the time to make this video. This old dog learned a new trick!

Been doing my own chains as a non pro for almost 30 years and when in my shed and I must of found 50 chains I neglected, never sharpened after the first use and just replaced them. So today is sharpening day and this channel is the only one I'll take tips from

Buckin you are so good at explaining the why that's the most important part of teaching thank you Buckin you are a legend!!!!

Until i found Buckin Billys sharpening videos I got 3 or more new chains a year, now I have not bought a new chain for 3 years now... Best on KZread...

I had NO idea how to sharpen a chain and NOW I know ! Thank you !!! 1. 7/32" file ! 2. Hit it down and hard ! 3. Level out the file and hit it softer until the tooth is straight ! Thanks so much !

@adventurerhoades

3 ай бұрын

Good recap thanks, I screen shot that. Very helpful too

@noweare1

16 күн бұрын

Yes, that is exactly what I got out of it.

Hey Buckin! We met at the Paul Bunyan Show and you signed a bar cover for me. Glad to see a filing video again!

I have been an arborist for many years and sharpening is always an elusive pursuit. These videos are great. I watched some last night and today my saw cut like a wood eating beast. Thanks!

This is the one. I’m going to the garage to file my saws. Thank you Billy Ray for sharing your knowledge and experience.

As small engine mechanic I appreciate that you have taken the time to explain this. I can't tell you how hard it is to try to explain this to people. You explain it in a clear and simple way. Thank you. P.S. I think you can't beat a freshly machine ground chain, but I also have access to a good grinder and the training to go with it.

@Fnberg744

7 ай бұрын

I agree maybe for getting everything back closer to factory but I firmly believe if I'm not afraid to put in the work I can take a chain to levels never seen before. Haha😊

@michaelterrill4950

7 ай бұрын

@@Fnberg744 I agree. It's just harder to justify putting in the extra work when I can get it done with less effort.

This is absolutely the best video on KZread for sharpening. This cleared so much up for me that i had trouble wrapping my head around. Thank you thank you thank you.

Absolute Master Class in all things filing and demonstrating what a tooth/top plate/gullet should look like. Thank you BBR!

Hi from England. I’ve recently purchased my first chainsaw, a McCulloch CS340. As soon as I found your videos, I’ve been hooked. Not only are you a great tutor, but you are so funny, I find myself smiling all the way through your videos. Also your merch’ is great, especially the suspenders👍

Always enjoy your videos and personality/positivity Whenever I need a good chuckle and smile I click on one of your videos Plus for the bonus I learn something every time Keep up the great work and thank you for taking us along

Happy to see an updated sharpening video I send these to all my friends after working with them for a day. After painfully watching them burn a tank per tree.

I love it man thats beautiful, the chain tensioner with the bar on the vise is great. Cannot wait to get all my chains cutting right

OMG !!! 10+ yrs of weekend cutting in the fall & ?? WOW… just wow !! I’ve watched many other “how-to’s” over the years & bought damn near all kinds of “sharpening gadgets” ??? W/little success & yet ?? less than an Hour ?? I just learned SO MUCH, Holy Cow !! No more wasted & Burned up chains from here on out 👍 a million thanks 🙏

Bucking is the best, I’ve learned more about powersaws, axes, and filing. overall one of the best most positive mentalities in life. You got me into one of the most satisfying careers i love, without killing myself.

A masterclass in filing imo, it’s definitely an art form to be able to sharpen a chain . I started out new in the chainsaw game last year and was never shown how to sharpen a chain properly and had no fun as a result. That had to change and one day I stumbled across your channel and filing videos, Best thing that could have happened. I’ve watched every one of your filing videos and been like the proverbial sponge soaking up as much of your knowledge as possible, taking it away and putting it into practice, I went through two or three chains practicing and learning, making mistakes along the way. I’m happy to say now though that I can get a chain really sharp and the difference is night and day from when I first started out, So Thanks Buckin’ Your videos have been a game changer for me, thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom and your personality on top makes for amazing content. ❤ Sending Peace, happiness and positivity from over the pond in the U.K.

Say Billy…It’s Spider, your long lost brother from the wooded Bosque river outside Waco, TX. Just so you know, I got more out of this ONE video than I have watching any other sharpening videos yet. Only wish I’d seen it sooner! You broke it down for us naive fellow cutters. Keep’em comin’ home-boy and thanks a ton!!!

Hey Buckin, I love your videos and your old videos definitely helped me perfect my form for filing. A we’ll sharpened chain IMHO can and will do more than porting. Much love buckin

Not even 20 seconds in and I got excited. I love your videos watch them everyday

Hey from Washington but I wish I would OF SEEN THIS VIDEO LONG AGO LOL, I would say Sthil, Husky, or whatever the person uses but should make this their step 1 before for using a saw. I have seen many videos trying to perfect the craft of making and getting a sharp lasting chain and just really the importance for a home owner or regular Joe as myself THE IMPORTANCE of making sure the saftey aspect of correctly sharpened chain is needed. I Commend you for putting the time in to making videos such as this one and really think some of these companies if not all of them should pick up this video as a starter video for a owner to watch. I now have a few years under me and watched people destroy their chains not understanding the process of your video you have so kindly and passionately made. THANK YOU BUCKIN BILLY from a man that is working his way out from the darkness you bring the world knowledge without fear from everything that I watched with your videos. Now Ive got to go get some new files I have work to do..

@MATT.MAN-PEACE-LOVE

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to the buckin army 🪖 Spread the love Increase the peace ✌️❤️🌲🪵🪓🐝

Highly appreciate your time you took on this.

Getting better little by little thanks to this man. What a legend. Incredible content and knowledge here, and hilarious at the same time! Thank you sir!

This is a great video! Always helps to hear and learn. And also the message of positivity, and kindness, and love always breaks through!!

Thank you very much, Mr. Ray! You just removed all the fear and confusion I had for filing my own chains. I always just tossed a chain out when it got dull. Now, I am going to go to town on a few chains that I set aside for that day that I learned how to file a chain and I am confident after watching this video that I can do it.

Buckin, these sharping videos are my favorite. Great topic!

A great video, Thanks Buckin! Learned here and it changed everything, yes it did! Big grins, nice chips, and fast cuts all the time.

These videos go by fast since the quality of info is so high. I don't have to cut much, but my chain is always in tip top shape thanks to all of your sharpening videos on this channel. Thanks.

I can appreciate a Buckin Get the Gullet filing video as the next man, especially when served with a bit of "told you so" in it for the unbelievers!😎👌

Had to sharpen 3 chains until i got what you show in this video. You helped me a lot. Thank you. Thanks for the experiance i was able to gain.

@MATT.MAN-PEACE-LOVE

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to the buckin army 🪖 Spread the love Increase the peace ✌️❤️🌲🪵🪓🐝

Evolution of a saw-man. Appreciate you sharing the knowledge and imparting wisdom. God bless!

Really Good Job Mr. Buckin’!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

I usually never watch these kinds of video's all the way through, but intended or not listening 2 you talk is hilarious (in a good way). Anyway after 20 years I think I finally learned how to sharpen chains now.

Thank you so much Buckin!!!!! You have helped me out TREMENDOUSLY when it comes to filing my chain!!!! So many people tell you wrong information - they mean well. However I learned from you! Thank You so much! So many people say do 2 -3 strokes per tooth to get your chain sharp then call it quits, when its dull - please not always. Ya in a perfect world sure, However that's not the case in all situations, I learned from you, you keep filling that chain till it's sharp!! SO MANY VARIABLES!!! Buckin will tell you - You should file your tooth TILL IT IS SHARP he don't care if that one tooth takes 2 strokes and another takes 30 strokes!!!!! DON'T LISTEN TO PEOPLE THAT ARE FOOLISH!!!!! Sharpen that tooth till it is Sharp!!! If you want your chain to pull your saw through the log = THE SAW CAN FEED ITSELF... OK!! - 3 things that are important to pay attention to in your chain filing if you want your saw to feed itself so to speak!! 1- Gut the Gullet, 2- Rackers need to be filed at the proper depth or more aggressive !!!! AND, & AND, & AND 3- Which I was totally surprised and didn't know the,, TOP OF THE TOOTH NEEDS TO BE SHARP AS WELL!!!!!!! If that tooth is not sharp on the TOP IT WILL NOT PULL YOUR SAW THROUGH THE WOOD regardless of racker height from my experience !!!! Sorry to bother you Buckin, but is not everything i just said true?????? YES OR NO?????

⁠ Easiest way my grandfather taught me is like yourself. The way he always said the properly filled tooth on the chain should wrap around the file. The file should be wrapped around by the chain of the tooth. Love your show and experience and explanation. I have tuned many people to your channel and style as it’s the best. Was taught to do it properly the first time and every time from then on. Easy when you know how. Love you and God Bless. Keep up the amazing work and advice. John and Cathy Ontario

I love the repetitive point with all the flavor on the delivery every time. That's the best learning situation for me. This guy could teach me rocker science. Thanks Buckin Billy

I just got a master class in sharpening chain watching this video. Those hands have sharpened a lot of chain! Thanks Buckin’ Billy.

Jupp, that’s a really great filing video. I have filed chain for some time, but still an amateur. Learned a lot today. So Thanx Billy 👍😊

Thank you 🙏 this is definitely upping my sharpening game!! Also the house decorations are on point!!

Unbelievable. So comprehensive love it man. Helped me remember some things i had forgotten/been taught back in the early 90’s while i worked on a fire crew. Really appreciate this video and yes it may have been long but it surely needed to be. Thank you thank you thank you. 🙏

Fantastic video and information. Thank you Billy Ray, so glad I found your channel...I feel my 'apprenticeship has now fully started'.. Thanks Rob

Your Stripes and Kansas inferences have got me smiling. Long video, but necessary, and very enlightening to the art of chainsaw sharpening. No one else has explained this, period. Your macro camera view is excellent. 'Thank very much...fm

Thank you for taking the time and effort to show the filing action and the close up view of what is an extremely good tutorial of how to get a good sharp cutting tooth. Thank you.

One of the best tutorials I’ve seen to date! Thanks Billy !

WOW, I am ready to get my chains in shape now. Thank You Buckin, God Bless!

One of the best video's Ive ever watched, from any channel! Top notch. Lots of educational value in this one. Not that you don't put them out. I just get this one extra. Thank you Ive never have never understood the values or function of each tooth like this before. I hardly ever use the powersaw. Ive cut three trees in the last three years. ( no not Christmas trees😂) Its just not my field, but just like sharpening a drill bit, you want to do it right when you go at it. Thank you and ....thank you