I've made a few smart purchases and many smart non-purchases because of your tests. You are definitely the go to guy for honest tool reviews in real world situations.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@MrV1NC3N7V3G4

Жыл бұрын

Yup. The first place I go is PF to see if he's done a review.

@officialshadetreeamerica

Жыл бұрын

Yup, I have been at the Home Depot a few times rewatching videos to make sure I get the best bang for my buck👍

@ThePrufessa

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely mandatory to check his channel before buying new tools.

@406Steven

Жыл бұрын

I had to get some new impact Philips bits last week, I remembered watching the video but forgot which ones to go with. A few minutes later I made my purchase!

So many of us enjoy Project Farms videos, but few of us realize how much money, time, effort, careful thought and deliberation go into making each of these videos! These aren't quick easy tests by any stretch of the imagination. Sincere and profound thanks to our host, Todd, for saving us all a ton of time, money and frustration from buying crap tools! Cheers, Todd, you're simply fantastic!

@allwoundup3574

Жыл бұрын

Most of us realize this because there are a dozen comments just like this posted on every video

@johnargumaniz9179

Жыл бұрын

2.66 million subscribers will get you quite a bit of monetization. I’m sure the money aspect of it isn’t a factor as he makes it back many times over

@gregwillis7767

Жыл бұрын

I think he gets a kick out of these test, and just started recording one day. His "i wonder if" became "tool porn" for us. I've used flex seal myself, but never built a running engine with no bolts at all!.

@cherrycoke106

Жыл бұрын

That realisation is why most of us like his stuff so much.

@bobkin611

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that. He is an incredible human being.

I have to say... I have sat in the parking lot at the big box store watching PF videos to help decide which tool I was going to walk in and buy! Thank you for all the amazing hard work you put into each video!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@charlesangell_bulmtl

Жыл бұрын

Translate HF, ETC.

@USN1985dos

Жыл бұрын

Same here, bro!

@wessjonesiii

9 ай бұрын

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@Xabier2.0

8 ай бұрын

Yarrrbor freight

The vertical drop test was brutal...and very fun to watch. Great job as always!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@arturcybulski6182

Жыл бұрын

Fun but not fair as hitting point should be at te same distance from the Vice.

@fredfred4086

4 ай бұрын

Yes, Todd takes no prisoners.

@layZjayZ

28 күн бұрын

Its got me laughing

Was hoping to see Doyle from HF, have one of those among 5 other vices mostly US made and it's surprisingly not bad. Great tests PF!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'll include Doyle in another showdown if there's enough interest. I have several other methods of testing vises for round 2.

@TorqueTestChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm Awesome, I'll definitely be watching that

@flintlickteig4603

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm Second on the Doyle

@RealJeep

Жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel Look at you also watching Todd to see how it's done! Love your channel by the way.

@hossrod

Жыл бұрын

Very interested in seeing how the Doyle stacks up!

Wow! I think this is the first time that something "unbreakable" has actually lived up to the claim on your channel! Fantastic video as always!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jpikl1284

Жыл бұрын

By the way, the 140mm Heuer is ~200€+ shipping in Europe, not 500$.

@johndudemech9471

Жыл бұрын

@@jpikl1284 No surprising if you convert euros to usd =/

@Slazlo-Brovnik

Жыл бұрын

@@johndudemech9471 Well currently it's almost 1:1

@nils1953

Жыл бұрын

@@jpikl1284 he has the 160mm version, as that is inline with the 8" throat length. That one is 260€.

Gotta say, I'm incredibly impressed not only with the comprehensive nature of your testing but how wholesome this community of informed buyers you've helped create. been watching a long time and definitely wont stop. keep up the great work!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

The best vice is the one that your grandad had. This is a perfect example of a tool that “they just don’t make like they used to”. I’ve got a Record vice made in Sheffield that is around 70 years old and spent 50 years in a blacksmith’s shop at a coal mine. It’s barely got a scratch on it.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@jpikl1284

Жыл бұрын

Record can be crazy high quality, that brand made vises when Britain was an empire. If it says "Record STEEL" on it, that's a cast steel vise that almost no other brand ever made. Heuer is forged steel which is nice and theoretically better, but the cast steel Record is just so much thicker that it's just waaay stronger. They had numbers designating what it was made for, for example the no.35 was their top of the line engineer vise made from steel or nodular (ductile) cast iron, that would cost over 1000$ if made nowadays (like the top end Wilton Bullet vises or a Swiss Gressel). But the most amazing was the Record 518 "Heavy Chipping STEEL" vise, a cast steel behemoth so heavy that it would crush most regular workbenches...

@dougyoung221

Жыл бұрын

' Coal mine ' says it all. They don't skimp on buying the best.

@sandgrownun66

Жыл бұрын

@@jpikl1284 Looking at pictures of the vice you mentioned. I noticed that it gives the model number as "518 1/2". I suppose that 1/2 makes all the difference!

@justussneary19

Жыл бұрын

You won’t be buying another one if the first one you bought lasts forever. It’s fucked up, but it’s what happens when you combine capitalism with corruption.

Project Farm has become the benchmark, for which all the other tool reviewer videos are judged. Nobody does it as well. A few come close. But the majority fall far short. You've mastered the art of this media platform. 👍 In regard to the vices, I spun the cylinder, and pulled the trigger on Horror Freight's Central Forge, in 2019, when they still had the 20% off coupons. Cost me less than $50. All I can say is I'm glad I did. Timex would be proud to put their name on this vice. It has taken a thrashing so severely in the last 2 1/2 years, that i've now repainted it twice. It's currently British racing green. If you get this vice, you probably won't be disappointed. One plus for this vice is that the jaws are secured by recessed, hex head (Allen) screws. The negative is that HF doesn't sell replacement jaws, nor do they sell an optional smooth faced set, for "mar free" clamping. I often use it for wood working, and the factory jaws do a number on anything soft they clamp down on. So I went to Wally World and bought one of those 1/2" thick, white, nylon/plastic cutting boards, and made multiple sets of "soft jaws" out of it, for the vice. The board thickness was perfect for this. No more diamond patterns embossed into my work pieces. 👍 Also, if mounting this vice onto a plywood work bench top (especially any top less than 3/4" thickness), I highly recommend using a section of plate steel under it, due to it only being a "3 hole" design. Once torqued down, it is rock solid. Vice Mounting 101 - "Pro Tip" for first time vice owners. When mounting, (ie..BEFORE you drill the holes in your bench top, and plate!), make sure that the inner face of the REAR jaw on your vice, is at least 1", to 1.5" FORWARD of (ie..clears it, by), the edge of your work bench! If it does not, then you will NEVER be able to secure any work piece south of the jaws, longer than 6.5", or so. Don't ask me how I know this. 😂

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@stimpyueediot

Жыл бұрын

Side note. Also be sure to mount the vice directly above a leg of the workbench and not in the middle of the table.

One my biggest takeaways was how the Central Forge finished so close to its average in each individual placing, i.e. no major outlier finishes. This suggests some pretty solid consistency at almost all the tests. Not bad at all for a budget vice, probably a solid choice for most small-shop situations. Great stuff Todd, then again it's ALWAYS great stuff.

@jed-henrywitkowski6470

Жыл бұрын

I have the smaller CF vice, for my home shop (that I have yet to re-build after moving, lol) and have been pretty happy with it, especially after disabling it and giving her a proper lube job. My only complaint is because of my own damn fault, I lost a part that kept the jaw from coming completely out!

@bixby9797

Жыл бұрын

Like most HF gear I would not want to run a business with it but for home garage types and do it yourselfers most of it is a solid value and will get the job done.

@Wohlfe

Жыл бұрын

I'll never buy a precision tool from HF like squares, and I'll always research a power tool from them first, but for everything else it's cheap and gets the job done, and there's even some real gems. You can always buy something from HF and if you break it down then line then you know to spend the money on the good stuff.

@waygonner

Жыл бұрын

Real world take on the central forge is that it holds up well over time. I do a ton of metal work for old cars and have had that vice on my bench for about 5 years. It’s taken a beating and I have no complaints.

I've broke 4 bench vises over the years. The one I have now is an old one from I believe the 70s era and it is built like a tank. If by some chance I manage to break it (wasn't a high end vise from what I've researched) I'll definitely shell out for the expensive "unbreakable" one. When using a vise I want it to be as strong as possible because I expect a lot from it. Thanks for another good comparison video.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

@emotionz3

Жыл бұрын

Same here. My old craftsman is built insanely better than my modern craftsman. The metallurgy and tolerances of modern vices are terrible.

@grahamepigney8565

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I have a Record engineer's bench vice from the '30s/'40s that was passed down through the family plus a '50s Record woodworker's bench vice that I found on Ebay. Both from the days when Record actually made Record vices. If either of them nreaks I'd search for an equivalent 2nd-hand replacement rather than pay the bucks for a modern one.

@TheLukasDirector

Жыл бұрын

We have about 15 Heuer vises at our (European) metalworking shop. They really are indestructible. A lot of them are older than any of the employees and they display no wear at all. I have never seen one break, and that's after an unfair share of hammering, grinding, welding, and various other forms of abuse. I'm actually kind of surprised they are still in business, because we've never had to buy a new one either (that I remember).

@MrHeHim

Жыл бұрын

Dang, i was actually thinking the Irwin would be a good choice for the price. Then again this whole video i was thinking, I've used some unbelievably nice old vices but never really stressed them. You got a good point, now I'm thinking of just getting a good old used one and it should outlast even "good" new ones

I absolutely love how you get the information out there nice and quick, it's a load of information at the speed of which we understand and the speed of which we like to watch, you are doing such an amazing job and I'm such a proud subscriber of project farm

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@insomniacryan9916

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree! Now this is good data delivered at the kind of super speed we want. 10/10, subscribed

I know everyone wants to see the Fireball Hardtail in this test, but unfortunately it wouldn’t be a fair fight. The Hardtail is in a different weight class 270lbs and price point. For example the Hardtail’s handle starts to bend at 40,000lbs.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@thehourglasswithaman

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he could test it along with a like 50 year old vice and see which is more heavy duty

@SRMWorkshop

Жыл бұрын

Hardware store vices really are in a different class than a big vice like the FBT Hardtail. Can't wait till the pre-orders start flowing again so I can finally get mine 😁

@jake9705

Жыл бұрын

There's also the little matter that the Fireball Tool vise doesn't exist. There's five positive reviews of the Fireball vise on its website but so far none have been delivered to customers, what a scam 😂

@FireballTool

Жыл бұрын

@@jake9705 Lots of vises have been delivered.

"Bent right out of the box". Too funny. More than likely someone bought it, used it, and returned it. Seen it many times before. Love the torture tests. Thank you for another fantastic testing video!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@BL-yj2wp

Жыл бұрын

Spares the user some work.

Great tests! As someone who has broken a couple of vises at least than opportune moments, it looks like it might be fun breaking one for science. Speaking of science, I always enjoy seeing the clever test rigs you come up with to produce repeatable and fair data across all the devices you're comparing.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Outstanding tests! As a German I didn't hesitate to get me a true HEUER vise a few years ago. They are a LOT cheaper here than in the US but of course still way more expensive than some Chinese cast iron vises. I got the "160"-model, i.e. one size up from what was tested here, and I paid about 1/2 the price shown here. And I didn't regret it a single day! 😃

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

@wadesaxton6079

6 ай бұрын

Can they bought at any hardware store in Germany? Maybe I’ll buy one there next time I visit.

@michaelavilov3443

5 ай бұрын

@@wadesaxton6079 Seems to only be available at Hornbach, and you have to order it in store.

@adriaandoelman2577

4 ай бұрын

Wirklich? don’t you have proper hardware stores in Germany anymore ? Cross the border, you can buy them everywhere in the Netherlands, even in the small town I live (Zwolle) are like 5 stores that sell several models.

@dirk143

22 күн бұрын

As a fellow German. Heuer, Leinen, Ridgid/peddinghaus are all good with different strenghts and weaknesses. also any English or German made that survied 50years are usually good for another 50.

I was seriously impressed with the harbor freight central forge vise in this test. I had avoided them for so long because I heard they were brittle and quick to break, but this video tells an entirely different tale!

@benjaminhoagland8473

Жыл бұрын

I have the mini 2.5" clamp on vice. I've had it for 3 years and put it through a ton of abuse. Best

@robot_hitcher

Жыл бұрын

I have the 6 inch rotatable one with the pipe clamp on the under side and a 6” host at work. The model numbers make a difference as well. Happy with both vises honestly.

@robertopenheimer1451

Жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight has stepped up it's game. Checkout the video review of their 3 ton jack stands. Their stands had been recalled over safety issues. The new stands are top notch. I almost want to sell my current 6 ton stands and buy a pair of theirs.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@Bob_Adkins

Жыл бұрын

And 1 of the lighter vises, too. If it weighed 5 more pounds, it would have finished even higher!

We Germans don't take pride in many things, but one of the few things were out pride is at it's highest is build quality. Awsome review, keep them coming.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great point! Thank you

@lassaut6794

Жыл бұрын

While i agree about Germany's tool quality... Im not so sure about that first statement though...

@Sam-bj6kb

Жыл бұрын

Cheers from Mannheim 🍺

@nickcohen7748

Жыл бұрын

One thing Germans should take pride for is cars. Y’all produce some extremely well made cars.

@BamaShinesDistillery

Жыл бұрын

@@nickcohen7748 really? I don't see it.

Todd is KING regarding in depth tools, oils, adhesives,etc., testing, including dreadful torture tests that give goose bumps to manufacturers / importers. Todd's actually THE worldwide honest referent reagarding the above & my go-to shopping advisor. Not enough words to say 'Thank You' to Todd & his dedicated work in his own awsome category!!.. 🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Would have loved to see Harbor Freight's Doyle line of vice included as well as they are supposed to be their better line. Great work overall! Love the channel.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

@getenlightened

Жыл бұрын

Doyle, and Pony too. And perhaps an older USA made Craftsman & Wilton.

@fusc69

Жыл бұрын

Add Capri to the list. (I think they make the Doyle for HF)

@LBCAndrew

Жыл бұрын

Those Doyle vises also cost 3x more. I just bought the Central Forge 5" for $59.00 and the 5" Doyle was $199. ouch.

@getenlightened

Жыл бұрын

@@LBCAndrew Yeah, very spendy.

This is one guy that can destroy stuff and be loved by all for doing it! His tests are always eye-openers. It would have been nice to have had an old American vise in the test to see how well it would have held up. Thanks Todd for sharing your time and talents with us.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@TheReal1953

Жыл бұрын

I have one of those huge, great American vises made for Craftsman back in the day. The LAST thing we need to see are some of those great old vises destroyed. There will never be anymore made like those.

@diltzm

Жыл бұрын

Check out Fireball Tool, he made a vise video awhile back that's definitely worth watching. Even custom fabricated a vise of his own design to improve on the weak points of other vises.

@garycarpenter2932

Жыл бұрын

@@TheReal1953 my dad had one in his garage. i used it when i was young. i tell ya, it never faltered from any abuse. and abuse it had.

@plane-o-1292

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheReal1953 Couldn't agree more!

Got Heuers in our workshop, they are installed since 30 years, they got welding marks, angle grinder cuts and slightly bent handles, but they still work perfectly. And considering that here in Germany the 140mm(8inch of span) just cost 190€, it's a good value.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@Juhuuu

Жыл бұрын

Yup. They seem to be dummy expensive in the states. I got my 140 mm with replaceable jaws shipped from Germany for a little over 200 € if I remember correctly. Haven't regretted that purchase a day since. It's a joy to use and will most certainly outlast me.

@blarfroer8066

Жыл бұрын

Probably import taxes. It's not the first time that something reasonably priced in Europe ends up being expensive in the States.

@skylined5534

Жыл бұрын

@@blarfroer8066 Seems unfair given in the UK I bought a pair of Irwin 'Vise grips' for less than £20 (less than $25 USD). They're awesome too! I've beat on them for a year now and they're still going strong and then some!

@jasonw277

Жыл бұрын

@@blarfroer8066 every other vice here is made in China, imported and sold for less than the markup in price for the German counterpart.

I have seen many of his videos and I like how he tries to intervene as little as possible and with as few variables as possible, being as technical and easy to understand at the same time.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I really love these tests, please never stop testing equipment! This information is invaluable. Side note: I'm a huge fan of Harbor Freight and their tools for their value/quality proposition. They never cease to amaze.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@robertclymer6948

Жыл бұрын

Agree David! Most are pretty dang good. Others not so good. But a good value for this weekend hotrod worker.

@briandimascio3624

8 ай бұрын

I got a Doyle vise @harbor freight w the 25% off coupon 3 wks ago. (Central machinery items were excluded from the coupon). It seems to be built like a tank, ductile iron and claims 7700lbs clamp force. I would’ve loved to see how it stacks up so I can feel good or bad about my purchase too 😂

I don't need to buy a vise, but as soon as I saw this video by Project Farm testing some, I had to watch it! That's how good this channel is! Thanks for sharing.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!!

@clayreal

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. I don’t need a vice but i need project farm to “Test That”.

@davidepannone6021

Жыл бұрын

I don't even do diy but i find these vids so entertaining for some reason lol

@lfish21.

Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure I have ever bought anything from this channel. But I watch every video.

YES! A vise is one of those things that I've always been told not to cheap out on, looking forward to seeing if a higher price really means better quality!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great point! Thank you

@95TurboSol

Жыл бұрын

TLDR; the answer is no lol

@firstman9273

Жыл бұрын

@@95TurboSol The only vice to survive was the more expensive heuer so answer is yes.

@MrAnthony992

Жыл бұрын

I was also told that. And yet, the two afordable prise ones (Forge & Foward) out performe some of the more expensive ones🤯 ..I got the foward dual jaws.

@brekkoh

Жыл бұрын

@@firstman9273 only when you consider the best quality vise, the results pretty clearly indicate, value does not scale linearly with price

I had that exact Irwin vise break while pressing an upper shock bearing in. I got lucky as everything broke. I replaced it with a Wilton 1765 about 4 years ago. It is one of my favorite tools in the shop and should be a lifelong piece. Thank you for your time on this test.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@ultimate1576

Жыл бұрын

I also have a 1765 Wilton, bought in 2017 and made in USA. It's unfortunate that Wilton has moved the production of the Bullet line of vices overseas. One of these USA Wilton Bullets surely would have been #1 in this test. They're heirloom quality.

Thanks Project Farm for a great series of tests!! Very informative!! Having been around a few times when vises break, your tests give a very comprehensive look at vise quality.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I've had the Fireball Tool 5 inch vise for awhile now and it has lasted through everything I have done with it. The big selling point is the base being designed for welding tables that have 5/8 holes spaced 2 inches apart, which meant that I was able to take it out of the box and bolt it to my table and it can be moved to any position on the table. It would be a good one to include if you ever do a round 2 of testing.

@torinireland6526

Жыл бұрын

YESSSSSS, please test the Fireball Tool vise!

@uberDoward

Жыл бұрын

Thirded!

@lprocter1982

Жыл бұрын

4th-ed for Fireball Tool's vice!

@ac.creations

Жыл бұрын

And his video destroying vices is informative

@randywl8925

Жыл бұрын

How much? 😁

It's awesome to see the test rigs that you come up with to perform your testing with. You really put a lot of effort into your videos! Also nice upgrade in the testing equipment. You do great with educating a lot of buyers out there.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Love seeing the tools I own perform well. I look forward even more to seeing the tools I want be pit against competing brands! Your channel is great

Bought a Forward three days ago, saw this video today (5/23/2024) and now I feel reasonably good about my purchase ! Thanks for the time and effort making these videos.

@ProjectFarm

17 күн бұрын

You are welcome! Glad to hear!

As someone who is going to be building and buying my own garage shop, and home maintenance place your channel is (and has always been) the best for helping me decide what to buy! You have helped me more then you'll ever know! And this episode is no different! Thank you for all of your work!

@harrywalker5836

Жыл бұрын

if you want to know about batt tools. indepth,,watch ave / boltr. makita, is still the best.. but like all tools, you have to pik & shovel, [ choose ]..very few manufacturers make,oversea, there own tools, makita, is 1 of maybe 4 that do..

@redred9000

Жыл бұрын

@@harrywalker5836 oh for sure! Thank you for the suggestion!

I have a brockhaus heuer 140 here in the Netherlnds. They are a lot cheaper here around 215,- euro. The play off the jaw is adjustable by tightening the bolt on de side of the base of the brockhaus. Can't wait till next week's video i like them a lot!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This was an interesting video to watch. Thanks for your time and energy producing it.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Thanks man. Great video! I really respect, how you are able to invent these devices to test the equipment. Always surprised with each video! Thanks so much

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You run an amazing channel and provide such important information. The detail you go through alone to ensure fair and accurate testing is bar none. I applaud you good sir. Thank you.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I do not have any needs for a bench vise but I’m addicted to your non biased views and fair tests! Thanks for all the videos you have put up! Made some smart purchases as an auto tech thanks to your thorough reviews!

This is a great testing video! I have a Brockhaus Heuer 140 for 2 years now, it never disappointed me and it’s my favorite tool ever bought😊 Greetings from the Netherlands

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Greetings! Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

I've really enjoy all of the testing documenting you do on these products in your videos

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Fireball tool did a great video on vises also I always buy forged vises because (ductile) cast iron vises always fails as you proved great video!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great feedback! Thank you

@KimballPrecisionRifles

Жыл бұрын

Ductile iron is not the same as cast iron. They are both cast, but one is very similar to steel in composition. All cheap vises are the bottom of the barrel cast iron, like the majority of the cheaper vises in this video. A high quality cast ductile iron vise, like a US made Wilton, older Wilton, Columbian, and most of the older high quality vises are just as strong as a forged steel vise, especially if that forged steel is Chinese.

@CPthetooladdict

Жыл бұрын

@@KimballPrecisionRifles I don't think you read my comment clearly. I stated ductile cast iron which is the bottom of the barrel and I will definitely disagree with your opinions. wilton bullet vises (ductile steel) are the fantastic, but there's several forged vises that are equally as good on the market nowadays. The weak link is majority of swivel bases. A good wilton bullet vise will cost you much more than a good forged vise and most diy people will never need anything more. Just to summarize the cheap vises usually market as ductile cast iron and they are not as good as forged wilton hardly even makes a usa made vise neither does Columbia ect. Forged or a old vise is your best option.

The only complaint I have is tiny, but during the hammer test, all the pieces being hammered were at different lengths in the vices. Those different lengths would make a massive difference in force applied to the jaws. Otherwise, very comprehensive and well thought out testing sir!

@jamesoy900

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that too but i think it was because the height of the vice that prevented it from being the same for all tests.

THANK YOU!! I am about to buy a vice and you helped me decide!! Fantastic video! It is my first video with you but you earned a subscriber! Cheers🍻

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

Your reviews are always useful and practical. Thanks for your effort!

@ProjectFarm

3 ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Nice Video, I'm from germany and own a Heuer Vise with replaceable jaws and a swiveling base, it cost me arround 250€, that our german tools are so expensive in america is always shocking to me :/ But I always love it when someone like you tests those tools against your brands, good work!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@edm514

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t realize it was that much cheaper over there. Does that ring true for knipex Tools as well?

@joergschoettle6959

Жыл бұрын

@@edm514 they are slightly less expensive in Germany, but not so much that it would cover shipping costs across the pond.

@MrCROBosanceros

Жыл бұрын

American tools and other products are usually at least twice as much expensive in Europe than in North America.

Nice test, and good information. One bench vise I would recommend is the Fireball tools hardtail model. It's made in USA, and he also did a test of vises, and his definitely survived. His is available with deposit for preorder, which might help explain that it's handmade. I would mention that Wilton does make some professional vise's in USA.

@RealJeep

Жыл бұрын

The USA made Wilton's still have Wilton quality but not the CCP made ones.

@robertbenedict4651

Жыл бұрын

I was at the Fabtech show in Atlanta this past week and meet Jason from Fireball. They had the Fireball vise for sale $5800.00. I have their welding squares but cannot justify that much for a vise.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the recommendation.

@shadetreewrenching

Жыл бұрын

Agree on Wilton. Would love to have seen one of their better vises versus that Chinese consumer grade one. I have a smaller bullet from the 50's as well as a somewhat newer tradesman 6".

@austindonald6939

Жыл бұрын

@@RealJeep I can't believe they even let their name be put on that thing. My 8" bullet vices seem unbreakable.

Most of my tool purchases have come from your reviews. Keep up the awesome tests! Can’t wait to really put my central forge to the test!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Todd, this is an amazing video!!! As many people here commented, thank you for doing such a good job with this!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I know they are considerably more expensive; but I’d like to see a similar test between the higher end vices. Especially the USA made Wilton and it’s counterparts. Great video as always!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

@IMABIGKIDNOWW

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm would like to see fireball tool!

@codyg7936

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm let’s see a “snap on”vise in that comparison!

@KennyInVegas

Жыл бұрын

@@codyg7936 Snap-on was made by Wilton... i have an old Bullet Wilton. It would blow away everyone of those vises.

@Daniel-Weaver

Жыл бұрын

@@KennyInVegas Same here,I have my Dad's 5 inch bullet. Scored a beat up 4 inch and rebuilt it for my son. There's a guy on ebay that has brand new jaws. I also got the correct swivel base from him. Made an extra long handle out of a 15 inch 1/2" socket extension.

The chart at the end, the competition throughout the video, this was a top notch production from you. Keep it up!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Gladd you made this one. I been trying to sideline witch one to get. Happy for all your videos

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

About 50 plus years ago I inherited a vice from my father. I have used it hundreds of times and am amazed it has never disappointed. The jaw is 4" wide and can open up to a usable approx. 8". The vise embossed markings are: (right side) THE CHAS. PARKER CO. MERIDAN, CT. USA , (LEFT SIDE) SEMI-STEEL, SOLID BAR, PATENTED, JAN. 2 1806, NOV. 22 1810 , NO. 239X I enjoy all of your testing. Very useful, Don't ever stop Todd!!

There's a vice from Fireball tool that I really want to get, mainly to keep in the truck since it doubles as a jack. I know they did a fair bit of testing already on their channel, but I'd love to see what you could come up with to maybe push it to failure. Also I'm very impressed with the Central Forge, gonna have to keep this in mind when I build a new bench

@jeremykoehn4004

Жыл бұрын

I've always wanted to get his plans and build a FireBall vice

@wyblackwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremykoehn4004 I know, they look sooooo good, I'd just need someone to cut out the parts and weld it up for me.

@valkyriefrost5301

Жыл бұрын

I have the larger Central Forge (HF) vice with the swivel head and bottom pipe clamp. It works really well holding 1.5 inch iron pipe. However, the vice's iron is soft and I striped out the original lock screw on day 1. I tapped the stripped hole for a much larger screw and it has been holding up well for several years now.

@LitheInLitotes

Жыл бұрын

It's stupidly heavy and one function should not have been added. It underperforms as a floor jack. Not completely thought out

@chrisrose7508

Жыл бұрын

That thing is nuts lol

Wow, very impressive tests! I would have been a bit scared during that last test. The Crentral forge impressed me too. I wonder how the new HF Doyle line of vices would compare.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

@JonpMathewsdxt

Жыл бұрын

I have the 6 inch Doyle and it’s a beast. But of coarse I don’t use this hard. But for a vice for automotive work it’s hard to beat for the money. Just my 2 cents.

@manunava1776

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was hoping the bigger Doyle would be included on this test! I'm very happy with the one I picked up a few months ago with a 'no exclusions' 25% off discount. Would like to know how it sized up in this test..

@hondaphan4172

Жыл бұрын

@@manunava1776 Yeah, I have the 5" Doyle and I really like it but it's a slightly different design/style from the 4" & '6" versions. I'm very interested in seeing how the 6" version would fare in these tests. I have to say I'm quite surprised how the HF Central Forge vise performed overall as I always perceived them to be borderline junk.

@lylewaters6161

Жыл бұрын

I’d also like to see the HF Doyle 6” added to the test

Every time I need a tool I see a video from you. Never fails to help me. You the man!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Wow! The means you go to in order to test everything you test is truly most impressive. All of your videos are informative and educational. Bravo!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

My uncle has a massive collection of antique vises of all types. I am very interested to see how those compare to the modern vises in this testing.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

I'd really like to test some vintage vises!

@gus473

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm Guessing it will be like Vintage Craftsman vs. Current model (sadly)! 😎✌🏼

@RealJeep

Жыл бұрын

@@gus473 I have an old 6" Craftsman (USA) vise that I have abused for decades! When vise manufacturers farmed out production to the CCP we all know what happened.

@KimballPrecisionRifles

Жыл бұрын

@@gus473 they are both junk lol

@Garth2011

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm There will be massive differences...they won't break or fail like the junk sold today.

You are a valuable member of the KZread community. Thanks.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

I can't get enough of your videos! As always thank you so much!!

Very entertaining and educational, I always enjoy your videos, Awesome job

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I would have liked to have seen a Fireball Tool vise and also an old school Wilton bullet vise.

@KimballPrecisionRifles

Жыл бұрын

Fireball tool has already tested their vise, it would completely destroy any of these. Not to mention, it’s a whole lot larger. Unless you’re not talking about the USA made one they’re coming out with. If you’re talking about the forged steel one, it’s just a rebranded yost vise.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestions.

I bought my Larin 5" vise years and years ago from Costco. This thing has been through hell and back, been pounded on over and over with a sledge hammer and is still a workhorse. Thank you Todd for another amazing video on this chilly Sunday afternoon.

I've used your advice for many purchases thanks for saving me money!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Thanks for all of your hard work on this bench test of these vises. I now watch your channel before making a purchase on any kind of equipment. Keep up the great work!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Great work as always! A video on top Harbor Freight tools you've tested would be an interesting video. Maybe some filler material for a week where you are taking it easy :)

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

@jadenantal1652

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm i second the harbor freight video. Would be extremely interesting. Thanks for the vids!

@blizzunt420e

Жыл бұрын

He needs to do a fractal vice

@don1031

Жыл бұрын

Just to add, it would also be of interest to see the worst HF tools you have tested.

@GunNut37086

Жыл бұрын

I'm usually impressed with how well the HF tools hold up, especially for the price.

Love my heuer vise. They been building them in exactly that shape for decades. Bought mine used for 40€ and end the seller told it used ti belong to his father and that it is at least 30 years old. Bead blasted it, repainted, put some grease on on it and it looked like new ( it's tool not a collectable I made a few scratches). Kinda love the history about it. On the base it says 68 so maybe that's the year it was made. Also, you can adjust the wobble with the m12 screw in the middle. You can tighten it get basicly zero side movement but it turn a lot harder.

Glad to see the Central Forge did quite well in the tests as I bought one just shortly before this video was made. Great stuff as always, Thanks for all you do.👍

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Oh, Also, project farm is my absolute go to for Pre-buying for just about everything! Thank you sir for your very fine channel. You are appreciated sir. Cheers from Motown!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Perfect timing on this video. Just today I was looking at a few small vise for my portable workbench and was not really even putting Central Forge into my options for consideration, and now I am kind of leaning that way.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

i ended up buying 2 5-1/2" wilton vises and ive been perfectly happy so far with them. They retailed for like $130, but the local napa accidentally bought an entire pallet extra so they put them on sale for $80 each.

It's a amazing video sir. Sir your experiment helped me a lot. A lot of thanks to you

I appreciate the videos for the creative ways to test different items, I like the custom rigging and fabrications it takes to test as fair as possible. It is a true unbiased testing of super random every day products

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I see round two coming for vises 😁 Perhaps Fireball tool, Capri tools, and Doyle could be making an appearance then?! Wow, unbreakable indeed! Very impressive, Heuer! What a surprise that the Harbor Freight and Forward vises performed better than I had anticipated. For budget vises under 100 bucks, not bad at all. Thanks again PF!

@TheDeathM

Жыл бұрын

I would like to see this as well. Maybe some very old vices as well.

@KreemieNewgatt

Жыл бұрын

I second that. The Capri vise swivels in two planes, making it very versatile. And I'd love for a used vintage vise to find its way into the mix; Parker, Reed, Prentiss, and Wilton are among the best vintage ones.

@ExtremeSquared

Жыл бұрын

Doyle, Yost, and Capri all rebrand and switch between the same Chinese OEMs depending on line. Brand loyalty for vise resellers is tough to justify.

@thehourglasswithaman

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDeathM that’s what I’ve been saying, my only vice is a 40-50 pounder from like the 50s or 60s and other then lugging it around because I don’t have it mounted it’s great for a vise I got for free

I wish fireball tool’s vise could have come to the party! Love the video!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

Fantastic as always! Thanks PF!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I always check with your site when buying something for my garage. Thank you!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

I have 2 of the Central Forge vises in my shop. One is about 3 years old and the other 2. No problems with either yet. I'm not abusively hard on them but they do get a lot of use. I do a lot of welding and metal work. Thanks for another very informative test.

The Brockhaus Heuer is also available WITH replacable jaws. And in different widths, of course. If is has play in the slide, it can be adjusted to 0 with the middle screw. Great vise!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great information! What a great vise!! Thank you

Great video! I’ve only had the central forge for a few months but very happy with it so far

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear!

Seeing how you homemade your vise handle torque adapter had me giggling inside being a fabricator/welder myself. Have you ever considered making a behind the scenes video of making one of these episodes? I don’t think a lot of us people can actually wrap our heads around how much time and effort goes into making one of your videos. Between the actual testing itself and especially making all the set ups to do the testing, I think it’d be fun to see all that goes into it! Thanks!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

@ilikewaffles3689

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm if you think it won't do well on this channel maybe make a second channel for stuff like this

@zyggiest

Жыл бұрын

Good content

It's disappointing how many name brand vices performance poorly. This is one of your most interesting videos yet, and very thorough testing. If manufacturers ever respond to your tests, that in itself would be an interesting video topic!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

I would LOVE to see the „Fireball Tool“ Vise in the Competition. cost a lot lore but i think its the best one you can buy for money

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

Very nicely done sir. Thank you for your hard work.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

You are really amazing. I was trying to guess how many tests you could do . I could find only 2.. Great job.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I put a new one out every Sunday.

love the videos! really wanna see you test contractor garbage bags

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video idea!

@population5000

Жыл бұрын

I really want to see this too

@JosefTorkelsen

Жыл бұрын

Wow, creative idea.

Another great test. Keep them coming.

@ProjectFarm

6 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Thank you again for another thorough product evaluation. Whether viewers are seeking the best value or the most robust vise, your testing will guide them to right choice. You are an amazing product tester.

@ProjectFarm

3 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

A vise is one of those critical tools that I'd take a horrible wooden one over no vise at all! Very impressed with the Harbor Freight one. I use an old Wilton bullet vise in my shop, it's never let me down. Sad to see the modern Wilton do so poorly. I put some copper jaws on mine, now there's little that can escape its grasp! Thanks for all you do!

@nrml76

Жыл бұрын

These are light duty vices. For holding something for filing, hack-sawing or something similar, most of them would function well enough to get the job done.

@mguerramd

Жыл бұрын

Wilton have both Chinese and USA made vises. The USA ones are top notch. I wouldn’t buy any Chinese vise. Edit: Since I bought my USA made 1755 Tradesman, in 2017, they are now made in Taiwan. So I have no idea what’s going on at Wilton, if they make anything in the USA or not.

@MrCROBosanceros

Жыл бұрын

Those tools made in China will never be as good as the original tools made in the USA. I consider them toys, not serious professional tools.

@adollarshort1573

Жыл бұрын

If you look at the Wilton and Yost catalogs you will see that they sell vices of much higher quality than the ones in the test...some of which are Made In USA. If you think that $500 German vice is expensive, hold on to your lug nuts! It would have been eye-opening to see one of these in the test but it's easy to spend someone else's $$$. Anyway, the test really shows how vices people like me can afford (or even need) stacked up against each other. Thanks again Project Farm!!!👍

Great video as always! I know you’ve done reciprocating saw tests in the past, but have you considered testing the newer one handed “hackzall” type saws? Also testing orbital reciprocating saws would be awesome. I appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos, and I can’t wait to see what’s next in store!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video idea!

Brother, you are the first channel I look for, before buying any tools, oils, etc! You Rock!!

@ProjectFarm

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Another VERY impressive job from Project Farm.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I really enjoy seeing the improvised testing tools and equipment. The depth gauge setup was nicely played and I really enjoyed the socket with the cross bolt. I was not understanding how a hex was driving them until closer inspection. The seemingly simple ones are always the most pleasing. Very brave to take them to failure like that and really interesting to see the differences in how they each (nearly each) failed.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

Awesome tests as always! I don't feel as bad about going with the Harbor Freight vice over a Wilton 2 years ago when I needed a cheap vice in a pinch! Like others said, Doyle would be a great contender for the next test.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Awesome testing protocol. Great result: Excellent value finds. Thanks

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I just purchased the forward 5" vise and I love it. Thank you for making this video because it guided my decision.

@ProjectFarm

11 ай бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

Always makes my sundays better seeing you upload . Thanks a lot Todd i appreciate your excellent testing

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Love your videos. Can you do a video on smaller screwdriver sets? Like ones for small level electronic repair. Ifix is the most popular but there are others. Just a thought cause I use allot of those type of tools and I want the best

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video idea!

Now I have a better idea what to get for my small workbench. Great work, thank you.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

You rock! Thanks for such an objective video. With the information you give is so much easier to make a decision.

@ProjectFarm

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice comparison! Problem with cheap vises is that they use cast iron. Vise like the Heuer Front use forged steel, which is a lot stronger but comes with higher price. In Europe the model you tested sells for only 200€ and interchangeable jaws version goes for 250€. I have the interchangeable version and I love it.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.