The biggest threat to DDs are, ironically, other destroyers. One of the greatest strengths of DDs is being able to choose your battles thanks to low detectability; However, enemy DDs often appear without warning and tend to favor the player who reacts more quickly and/or is in a better position upon detection. I've gotten pretty good at winning these type of engagements when they are 1-on-1. Unfortunately, if your teammates don't support you then the other nearby enemies will usually finish you off, turning a well-earned victory into a mere trade. All in all, destroyers REALLY need balancing on console; I've had matches where more than half of the players in a match were in DDs (it was ridiculous) and I felt so bad for those poor BB captains (I at least try to spot targets/enemy torps for them whenever possible); This, combined with a lack of carriers and smaller map size makes for a real crapshoot (Read: clusterf*ck).

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

DDs have a nasty tendency of blocking other DDs attack runs.

@hi14993

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I would say light cruisers are much better henceforth CLs(Cruiser, Light as per navy classification). usually have many small caliber guns with fast reloads so you can basically machinegun down light ships like DDs and cruisers but generally lack the punch to hurt battleships. Some good CL examples are the helena, leander, and schors.

@HarmfulDesign

2 жыл бұрын

@@hi14993 True, but that only applies if the DD is spotted. It doesn't matter how good your guns are if you can't find a target.

@hi14993

2 жыл бұрын

@@HarmfulDesign Thats what hydro/sonar and radar is for. which they all have some form of with only 1-2 exceptions.

@HarmfulDesign

2 жыл бұрын

@@hi14993 A skilled DD captain will know which ships have these consumables and what their respective ranges are and can take care to avoid them. As a DD main, I've had matches with 4+ radars as well as multiple Sonars and still managed to remain undetected the entire match.

8:32 cracking up😂😂 great vid, really appreciate ya actually taking the time to detail each ship especially with actual gameplay. Easy to take you serious when you're actions speak as loud as the words n ur battles are def fun to watch

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy what I do thanks for watching

Aim for the super structure on battle ships w/ DD guns. The American dds AP does better damage unless their repair is on CD. 6km- is a good distance to attempt scoring (multiple citadel salvos) on cruisers. Tbh you don’t want to be that close. You will most likely lose a lot of hp even if you get the kill. HE is the way to go 75% of the time. Forcing repairs allows permanent fires/floods, every one your team will benefit.

Also if you have HE loaded in your BB shoot the dd with one turret every 10 sec or so. You can break their engine or torpedoes multiple times then gain distance.

Haha you were like this to the king george: hola After launching torpedoes: Mahalo motherfu**

Japanese stealth torps are fun ;) Still takes abit of work and set up to pull off and if you make a mistake then you tend to end up back in port pretty quick.

@dgeneratio1

5 жыл бұрын

Don't i know it lol, got upgraded guns on Fubuki, which has good guns i feel. which can stealth torp but stock wasn't fun as i couldn't stealth torp.

Not a bad video, spartan. Historically, US torpedoes began ww2 as downright crappy when compared with the torps of most other navies - and ESPECIALLY the Japanese. It took quite a while for them to improve. If using only computer targeting to shoot torpedoes, and the target is at any distance doing absolutely ANYTHING other than sail predictably in a dead straight line / steady speed, you WILL miss, Every. Single. Time. Funnily enough, despite saying how over-powered the computer targeting is, I notice you don't seem to rely on it all the time. And I've been killed often enough while making attack runs on the big boys to KNOW it isn't anywhere as easy as you say.

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

I know all classes take skill as I play all classes. That being said DDs are the easiest class to play with BBs a close second. Cruisers I think are the most difficult which is why they aren't played much.

@blackbirdmenagerie

5 жыл бұрын

@@SpartanElite43 I dunno I've run into plenty of stupid dd players in my 2+ years playing wows and now legends, German and Russian dds are tricky to play especially at high tiers where radar and hydro are so prevalent. If you don't know what you are doing you are going back to Port rather fast. Good dd players know when to stop shooting and or shoot from outside detection/ ambush players from around islands with torps.

@jpmillerx77

5 жыл бұрын

What is computer targeting with torps? Are you saying they will adjust course to the target? Thanks, Friendly neighborhood WOW noob

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

@@jpmillerx77 Nope the computer ill tell you roughly hre to aim your torps if the target continues in the same course and speed

@jpmillerx77

5 жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought but got a little confused by comment about targeting computers being OP. All clear now

Destroyers require way more skill and planning than battleships, easily. As a battleship captain you have to stay aware that they’re out there and never drive in a straight line at the same speed.

@HulkingGizmo

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao, good meme

Wish the upgrade torps show that it increased distance. Didn’t add them right away cause based on the upgrade screen, they suck. Slower, less damage. Be nice to have know all the stats on them

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah there has been a lot of complaints about it and I imagine it will be looked into. That is very useful info to have.

On the guy that ran into you.... just like WOT's ... because it's a Random Game with 14 other people playing on your team.... YOU ARE DOOMED TO RUN INTO A_HOLES FROM TIME TO TIME ... I try to worry about the things that I can control and let the rest go. Great Video... Good Hunting. Semper Fi.

It can be truly amazing that "teammates" CAN be a WORSE enemy than the red team is...

Dude! Why do u worry so much about giving us some good games?!? U offer us some fun content with actually helpfull commentary..You should not worry so much becuz ur vids are fun, even if u screw some games up😎 keep up the good work! Hope we have crossplay in the future..would be awesome

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I always try to offer videos I would enjoy watching. So I try to get good games and then commentate them to make them even more interesting

Wargaming needs to improve secondary guns on battleships to keep destroyers from suicide torping.

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

I think they ant you to spec into the secondary battery perks and equipment but I like my Main Battery dispersion buffs too much for that!

GG. Benson the butler serving it up. I have no skill with torps sending or receiving. Sticking with Battleships and the US cruiser line. At the Colorado, I suck at that as well. I did like the show Benson and the earlier show Soap, that was a scream. Nice choreographic sync swimming with the Icarus, he must have shed his feathers and landed in the battle. Peas love and destroy all destroyers, Johnno Bloke.

Lol! I played a game with you and let’s just say, I think I witnessed the last game in your Iowa because of how mad you got at the enemy jervis DD when he was super close to you and sent a wall of skill at you. I hope you still enjoy the game! Bc i would like to continue watching your videos!!

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Lol I am just a Salty gamer. Still that guy should not have survived 12 16inch HE shells

I like the American DDs. The limited torpedo range really makes it a challenge - specially in the teir V and below. But i do like wreaking cruisers with AP when they think you're just a little DD and an easy kill.

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the tier 4 and 5 really massacre cruisers who are broadside but doing that at tier 6 and 7 is risky

Dear Mr. Elite43- Thank you sir very much for the entertainment that you provide. I’ve been watching your videos for a year now and I love your comments, your logic and rationale. You’re extremely entertaining and at times funny! Because of you I went for the Iowa but now I’m loving the Benson. There’s just something extremely rewarding about blowing them up w/ torpedoes. Oh Cleveland is my favorite. Hands-down love to Cleveland. Thinking of expanding and exploring different ships other than USA? Where should I go next? Also another question if you don’t mind. Is it worthwhile to do ranked? I really don’t understand the bureau either but that’s a different story. Should I do ranked

Destroyers have an easy time when the cruisers are not doing their jobs I was playing an Atlanta and escorting Battleships. I thought the party would be boring Guess what l got detected and no ships on the horizon. I switched my radar and found a destroyer tailing us. He tried an attack run and payed for it. I finished the game with two kills I hope they will introduce subs

@eituyn

5 жыл бұрын

What you said is key. I love Spartan's vids, but this vid is a strawman argument to the ease of torps. Their cruiser pilots were clearly not so good. Evidenced by the Icarus able to just chill out in the open and Spartan sailing around with impunity. Cruiser's job is to kill destroyers if they aren't doing it then the destroyers reign torps on everyone. It is ruff to come around a corner and there is an unavoidable holy wall of torps. This seems to be the exception not the rule. At least in my game play.

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

To my knowledge subs aren't going to be a thing

I have gotten 103,484 damage in a Clemson

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Very Nice think the best i did in the clemson as in my Torpedo Quick Guide. I think it as 75k or so

I know I'm late in this comment I'm a new subs but damn that's not a teammate that's a spy from the opposite team ! 😂😂😂😂 I laughed so hard!

Hey man. Love your videos on the Iowa. I haven’t got it yet but I’m working towards it lol. I’m making videos on my progress and stuff too. I’ve only made a highlight video from this weekend but I’m making a series coming soon

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome Glad you enjoy what i do and best of luck to ya on your channel.

@Concret3Cowboy

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man appreciate that

What upgrades did you use on your destroyer? I’m curious bcuz this build is pretty good.

Icarus is the best DD in battle 😂

I would like to know the build you are using on Benson? Commander and Modules. I just acquired Benson. Thanks for the great videos, they help a lot in gameplays.

Hey Spartan, GG! I have not been playing WOWL much. Still grinding out The Machine contract. But I had a game in DD where me and other DD where in close combat. I knew he was about to torp me so closed within arming range. He unloaded and they all hit me but no harm 😆😆 I held my torps and swung out to arming range and bam he’s dead. Fun game! Have you used that tactic?

Hey mate can you tidy something up for me is there or is there not a minimum arming distance for torpedoes in the game ? Cheers PS love your videos mate keep it up 😎

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

There is but it is such a short distance that it never actually happens

They needs to fix the destroyers gotta love it when their like 8 km away and disappear without the smoke screens

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Actually if they are 8 km away the only way you'd see them is if they are firing. Generally need to be within 5km to spot them and like 4.5 for Japanese

@blackbirdmenagerie

5 жыл бұрын

6km or less detection radius tends to make that happen, if they increased the detection radius they would need to seriously buff the HP of said dds.

Hey, Spartan, at least in wows mk 13 torpedoes aren't like in real life, or you'd hit a whole salvo and only have five thunk sound effects to show for it...

Why wouldn't a BB target an enemy DD that is close to it? It is by far more of a threat with the torps it can launch. Ever wonder why when an enemy DD is spotted it becomes the focal point to destroy as quickly as possible?

Sweat is a citadel?

Is this type of ship equivalent to a light/medium tank in wot?

@robinvandermeulen9736

5 жыл бұрын

I dont know dude..but if a light tank can fire torps and smoke to get away..then yea sure😎😋 but seriously..the destroyers are fast&nimble and have good fire rate (unless ur in a jpn dd) but they have weak armor. So i assume light tanks would be the equivalent of a DD

@dgeneratio1

5 жыл бұрын

I'd say it's equivalent to a Light Tank Destroyer - Light Tank Cruiser - Medium Tank Battleship - Heavy Tank Carriers - Artillery Same principle apply. Light loses to Medium but beats a Heavy. Medium has pace usually to keep up with Lights etc. Artillery generally has no weakness except when spotted and other Artillery. Artillery also beats a Heavy Tank. Unlike WOT + Arty, You can't defend against Arty but you can defend against Carriers if you shoot enough of them down.

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it is basically a light tank

Spartan I don't think you have done a meet the on the benson I unlocked it and it's rough

@SpartanElite43

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6KbtNRxgpOyZ8o.html

I would rather run an Atlanta than any US destroyer

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Nah the American destroyers are nice once you finally get long range torps on the benson

Such good content you deserve way more subs than you currently have. I'd love to have a game or 2 with you my gt is DAZPAZ

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy

What do you use to get so many Torpes out there

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

The benson has 2 torpedo turrets with 5 tubes each so 10 torps total

@g-_-i-_-joe4388

5 жыл бұрын

What about on PS4 would you happen to know

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Should b the same

@g-_-i-_-joe4388

5 жыл бұрын

Ok cool thanks

I think we need a meet the benson video, if you do not have one that is. I haven’t found it yet if you do, but keep em coming always look to your channel with every ship i unlock or obtain 👍🏻💯

I want the air craft carrier

What is a citadel?

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3iIr9uqhse6itI.html

Trick in a Battleship is to try and shoot the Destroyer before it gets that close (I've tunnelvisioned a few times too). In one of my New Mexico Videos, i knew Destroyers area but didn't know where he was so i counted to 7 in one direction then change direction. Doesn't work all the time but allowed me to Survive (Yup i know i'm using the wrong ammo). kzread.info/dash/bejne/iIiu19WjYLeucto.html (Around 9:15 ish)

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

I had a jervis take 2 salvos of 406mm HE from my Iowas front turrets so that is 12 16inch HE rounds and survive to torp me point blank because there is no minimum arming distance on console Destroyers do not fear Battleships so there is as problem. A squishy target like a destroyer should never get within 4km of a battleship and live to tell the tale

@dgeneratio1

5 жыл бұрын

True although their is an arming distance in Console as i dropped torps less than a 1 km and didn't do anything. In mine i knew i should fire HE but usually i stick to AP as Normally i fail to Kill the Destroyer with HE too.

First of all, I realize that your comments about torps being "no skill" are kinda meant to trigger people.... Second, how many games did you play in the M55? Third... I don't have a ton of games in WoWs yet, but I've had plenty of frustrating games in destroyers. I've had games where I was the first one spotted and had 2 enemy cruisers show up within 3 km and instantly delete me... I've also had games where I chase a British battleship around the whole match and watch him dodge my fish over and over again! I'm still learning, I'm on the tier 4 Japanese destroyer, but my great games are probably 2 or of 10 at the moment. So SHUT YOUR YAP ABOUT DESTROYERS BEING NO SKILL!

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Lol just Lol

@MrBadger2736

5 жыл бұрын

@@SpartanElite43 I know, I'm right...

@thelaborpeasant

5 жыл бұрын

Triggered Destroyer player xD

when we do PvP, don't you think some ships are BOTs ? sometimes I have this impression.

looks like you rammed him

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Tchnically yes but it was his fault for sitting there until just as I am about to go around him and then deciding to take off. I made first contact the rest was all him.

Hey

Lol ya me to

Its the same on PC. Torpedoes are beyond OP. Only if WG would add Torp defense systems to ships. Its stupid 1 full torpedo launch can easily kill 2 full health Battleships with no effort if you play it right 3 ships with 1 torp salvo.🤯🤯🤯🤯. No need for any ship to have 20+ torpedoes.

You keep complaining about getting sunk by torps. Now either you are unaware of your surroundings or just pure shit. Torps are so easy to avoid when you are paying attention to whats happening around you or if you change course of speed and direction every now and then. Or just stick close to an allied ship for them to spot torps for you.

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Lol I think you missed the point of this torp rant. Torpedoes need s minimum warming distance being able to sail up to within a Km of a BB and dump 10 torps into the side of the ship is dumb not how the game is intended to be played. I avoid more torps than I'm hit by when it is a fair fight. The jervis I faced in my Iowa took 12 16 inch HE rounds as he charged me just to hit me with 10 torps point blank and he survived the engagement

@psychoticsithlord2602

5 жыл бұрын

Spartan Elite43 fair enough,however, my point is still valid. Stick within close proximity to allied ships and a lone destroyer will never get close enough and survive. If you let a destroyer get that close to you its on you to a certain point(awareness).If i remember correctly,the best “stealth” destoyer is 6km concealment range(depending on Commander) on a destroyer many others get spotted much further out. Edit: i do agree they need a minimum arming distance like its PC counterpart

Don't call teammates dumb when it's your fault for running into him

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Lol I wouldn't have run into him the first time if he'd have stayed where he was. Then he ran into me multiple times before the final try and flat out ramming me as I got past him. So yeah.....

@marmarjackson3748

5 жыл бұрын

So he's just supposed to sit there so you can go by when you obviously should have went any other way than the one you did

@SpartanElite43

5 жыл бұрын

Why Not he had sat there that long what is another few seconds?

Bro let's play. I see you are pretty good and knowledgeable at this game. My name on xbox is X POKE X KILLER

I rule as a destroyer I play on iPhone and PS4 can’t stand battleships