Shut up and take my money already :P

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

😅

Waiting for that Kickstarter to start

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We too! 😅

So happy the batteries are easily replaceable! Love my Dygma Raise, and I'm super excited to back the Dygma Defy Kickstarter when it starts.

@ibrahimdelice9422

2 жыл бұрын

How would replaceable batteries benefit us? I mean, it is not like we change batteries when it has 0% battery left, right? We just charge them with the cable. Am i missing something here?

@masoteca

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ibrahimdelice9422 tthink of your phone, after a couple years 100% charge is not = to 10 hours with screen on but instead like 6, so if u could change it wouldn't better

@Baxtexx

2 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimdelice9422 Its good that they are easy to replace when they finally go bad. I am guessing though that it's not regular AA battery so getting replacements will either be difficult or expensive if Dygma sells them. It is however a lot better than other manufacturers who have built in battery these days that are difficult to replace.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! 😊 Regarding the batteries, and answering everybody: they won't be AA batteries (we needed flatter ones) but you could get replacements from us if you want and change it yourself without hassle.

@NightFoxXIII

2 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimdelice9422 It's the option to replace them if the user so desires. It's better for both an environmental perspective and financial cost too on the user end. Takes a little bit of reworking and planning to make it all work but if it's easily replaceable, less goes to a landfill. Remember it's Reduce, Reuse then Recycle. With Reusing being a key part before recycling. At least with the batteries.

Always a pleasure watching the quirky dygma vlogs. Kudos. Always entertained. Always makes me anxious to get one RN

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the kind words 😊 We try our best every time and these comments really give us strength to keep imporoving!

@giancarloliwanag1896

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab keep up the good work. Great products and great content all around. 👍😁👍

Love these breakdowns. GIMME THAT KEYBOARD! I just started a job at Microsoft and working long hours at my desk. Looking forward to whenever you guys launch!

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the new job! We're as eager as you to launch the new keyboard. Unfortunately, you still have to wait a few months to have it in your hands, but we're going as fast as we can 😅 You can keep up with all the updates in our newsletter: kickstarter.dygma.com/

Looks awesome. Seems scary to learn columnar and I was slow to learn it, but after 6 weeks I was back over 70 wpm and after about 12 weeks back to 90 wpm but far more accurately than a staggered layout. Its way more comfortable to type on columnar layout and way easier to use arrow keys and the function layered number pad. I fly through Excel. Very excited to see it.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Kieran. Thanks a lot for sharing your experience! During our tests, we found that once you are a proficient touchtypist adapting is very easy, and looking at your numbers, you look like one 😉 We're also very excited and really willping to put some units in the hands of the users to start getting feedback and really see how it performs. We think it's going to be a blast, but that's something we can't know for sure until you really validate it!

I’m genuinely impressed with this product this checks all the boxes for me!

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Well, thank you very much! 😊

This looks incredible!!! One question I have though is about the availability of custom keycaps for the thumbclusters, either first or third party. Will you guys release 3d models of the thumbclusters for the community?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

We'll sell those keycaps as separate sets, but we'll also release the 3D models so anyone can create their own 😊

I own an Ergodox EZ Glow and also more recently added a Moonlander Mark I to that, and I’m designing my own custom device that adds mouse functionality to a split ergonomic keyboard, but I still love to watch Dominique’s videos, because she’s so fun to watch! It’s hard to say without testing which layout would suit *me* best for comfort and number of keys with coding for my purposes, and I still don’t know, but I’m thinking I want a layout very similar to a cross between the Ergodox and the Moonlander, where the section that has the red arrow keys on the thumb clusters is replaced by 3 separate regular-sized keys for each, for 76 total keys, instead of the 72 keys as configured. The layout otherwise seems to fit my hands nicely.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there! You seem to be very commited to the quest of finding the perfect keyboard for you, kudos on that one, that's a commitment not everyone is willing to take to improve their workflow and health. We were also very concerned with the thumbkeys during the design phase of the Defy. We tested several solutions, shaped different keys and placed them in several positions. In the end, we created it so everyone, no matter the size od the hand, could reach at least 5 or 6 keys without effort. The remaining ones can be used for things such as changing layers or other commands you don't perform with the same frequency as you use space or alt. Also, we designed them so you can not press one by accident. That's something that always concerns us when it comes to designning keys. One final note, we already have keys that are able to move the mouse, just in case you were interested 😉 Jokes aside, hope you can find the perfect keyboard for you, even if you have to build it yourself, you have all our respect!

@strictnonconformist7369

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab hi, thanks! As for the mouse functionality I’m adding, it can’t be done purely with keys/buttons. It could be done adding a separate device in parallel with a keyboard, but that’s suboptimal, and it screams for a full integration. No existing device or kit does what I’m looking to do, or I’d take the lazier route ;) I find it interesting that the goal was to not make it fully viable for everyone to reach all of the thumb keys regularly, and while it’s possible my perception as to how many keys I find optimal will lower, I find myself needing to make compromises with 72 keys with the way I type and think. I have average-larger hands and how I bend is certainly a factor. I’m not persuaded there’s a single keyboard design that reasonably works for everyone just for size, etc. without any other considerations. My design does take the Neuron concept into the mix, as I’m using a Teensy 4.1 for this, which is absurdly over-powered, at least for prototypes. I’ll also be using a screen on it as well, because why not? 😏 There’s so much excess hardware capacity it may be the first keyboard with a boss switch and screen🤣🤣🤣

@block3732

2 жыл бұрын

@@strictnonconformist7369 hi, just out of curiosity, what is the mouse solution you're going to integrate to the keyboard? I'm planning to build one as well, with a mouse solution good enough to not move your hand from a tented keyboard to the mouse, which I find too slow and awkward. Also, what is a boss switch?

@strictnonconformist7369

2 жыл бұрын

@@block3732 I’ll answer the last question, but not the first: a boss switch/screen is used to make it look like you’re doing proper work instead of playing a game, and has been something in the past in games on computers when they were only really able to run one application at a time. The scenario is: you’re playing some game at work, and suddenly your boss is coming at you, so you hit a special key combination to display a spreadsheet. I’ll let you figure out your own solution to the rest ;)

@block3732

2 жыл бұрын

@@strictnonconformist7369 oh I see, never heard of it, thanks. As to you not answering the first question and letting me figure out the rest, your point is that since you'll be gaming with it it has to be a mouse ("normal mouse", not a trackball or joystick et cetera)? I'm asking just to be sure I'm not totally misinterpreting you

Only mad that I won't have the newest thing from y'all. Can't wait to buy this. 😄

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We're working our a** off to be able to serve it ASAP 😜 We can't wait to be able to provide them. Manufacturing this is going to be a challenge, but we think it's worth the effort. Let's hope don't encounter too many problems and you can enjoy the keyboard in no time!

Just ordered the Dygma Raise, I really like the look of it a lot more. No regrets!

@EgrojMPG

2 жыл бұрын

Having options is always a good thing and I hope Dygma keeps the Raise around. Not everyone will want to make the jump to columnar, especially if they have to use several different keyboards daily (at work, laptop keyboard in meetings/datacenter, someone else's computer,...) or share the keyboard with others. The Raise is there for the traditional staggered layout with the 'hidden' option of layers and split halves. And it may look better to people, beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that, =)

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

The Dygma Raise is here to stay. We will make improvements and launch a V2, with wireless, integrated tenting and what not, but keeping the layout. But making this one comes first 😅

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

😊

I've fallen down the diy tiny ergo rabbit hole after using an ergodox for a year, so this isn't the keyboard for me, but dang, the defy seems like an absolute winner. If the real product lives up to this video, it will absolutely be the top of my recommended list for people looking for a prebuilt split. Well done dygma.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We hope that the real product is even better than the prototypes, and we're really putting all the effort to do so. Hope we can fulfill your expectations and that we can count on you to preach for us 😉

Dominique is back! Awesome.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

She's the best!

Cool ergonomics and all. But Im mostly interested in what sort of switches you can have and if its going to be software heavy or if there will be onboard storage for profiles etc when switching between devices (PC' s). Also... will it support analog ? What keys will come with it ? Can you change actuation points ? I have some sensory problems in some fingers so knowing what sort of switches will be available is vital.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Regarding your questions: - It's not software heavy. You only need it to configure the keyboard, but no need to run it in the background. You can use it any other device. - We'll offer many switches to choose (Cherry, Kailh and others, in linear, tactile and clicky), and the PCBs are hot-swappable, so you can change them for your preferred ones. - We give o-rings to modify actuation points - We'll offer PBT double shot keycaps in English and other languages in ABS

The football moment is my favorite part xD But also, yeah, I'm gonna preorder one ^^

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your trust 😊 On the football moment, everyone was afraid to damage the prototype sitting in front of Dominique (and Dominique herself). It does not look like, but it was a tense moment 😅

I'm sold! When is the Kickstarter campaign launching?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there Rob! We'll start the Kickstarter on June 1st. Until then, you can join the VIP pre-sale and benefit from a free add-on to the keyboard 😉 Hope to see you around!

@DevOpsRob

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab in m already a VIP 😀 and my wife has just signed up as a VIP too

What power saving features will there be? Possibilities to configure sleep mode timeout and similar?

@babybloc

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure how much power the keyboard uses being plugged in when your computer is asleep, but the Raise lets you set how long the RGB stays on. Or toggle the rgb off of course.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

As Bruce has mentioned, you can configure when the RGB lights turn off. And it also turns off automatically when the computer sleeps too.

Apart from the integrated tenting, more lightning options and different center keys layout (curved, more keys), what are the differences versus the Dygma Raise? I was considering getting it but now I am deciding if to wait or not... Wireless seems also a plus too :)

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

The main difference besides those you have mentioned is that the Defy is columnar, while the Raise is row staggered, like a conventional keyboard.

Probably really good for gaming. I'm definitely interested in this.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

You might have to readjust the muscle memmory a bit, since it's columnar. But the thumcluster with six keys offers a lot of options in terrms of customization 😉

This looks so dope. Some questions: - Assuming it's both windows and mac compatible, can you switch between systems easily (e.g. i disconnect it from a macbook and plug it into a pc)? - If so, can you save profiles onto the keyboard it self? Or does it need to be saved on the computers? - For profiles, does the keyboard/software automatically detect which app you are using and switch to the profile accordingly? Thanks!

@andrzejkepka1223

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, as far as I know (from reading Dygma guys answers elsewhere): - yes, you can, - the layers are stored locally on the keyboard (Neuron, to be more precise), so no need to run the software in the background - I've seen people making this suggestion, but I believe it's not implemented right now (I wouldn't be surprised if they did implement it eventually, they consistently release new updates improving their software) As of today, you can easily configure the keyboard to change the active layer in a few different ways.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrzej for the answers. I can confirm all that he said 😊

I want to buy it now! Early Christmas present, please? :) Will auto-shift be supported and configurable? Once you've used it for a while, the thought of not having it is a very sad thought indeed. :(

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Kickstarter will launch in late April or early May, so stay tuned. And, what do you mean by auto-shift? That layers change depending on the program you're on?

@EgrojMPG

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab I think it means you can hold any key to get the shifted version

@leerv.

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Nice, that's exciting! I'm going to be checking daily for updates!

@jase96

2 жыл бұрын

What is the benefit of auto-shift? Genuinely would like to know, wouldn't that just slow you down?

@leerv.

2 жыл бұрын

@@jase96 Fair question. It's not about speed, it's about comfort. You no longer have to use more than one finger at a time when typing shifted values, so no more stretches. The idea is for it to be optional and, if the user enables it, configurable.

Something I wondered about it was, will there be a programmable keyup(or keyrelease) function? I've always wanted a keyboard that has a keydown one function and keyup another on the same key. It would be invaluable for my music programs.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

This is something it's not possible at the moment, but that we want to implement in the future 😊

I'm a little worried about the tenting. It looks a little weak, like as if the legs could break after a while. Especially if you press the inner keys a lot. What do you say about this? Is it possible to swap broken legs?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

The part of the legs that support the weight are metal, so they shouldn't break. And we use triangles, which makes it very sturdy. Plus, we have a 2-year warranty, and if a leg were to brake, they are easily replaceable.

THEY DO BE LIT. Literally lit

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

🔥

I like the larger thumb cluster and was considering it... until the part where you pointed out you removed a row. As a gamer, I want as many extra keys as possible on each half, even when I don't use them for regular typing. I have an Ergodox and the design's age shows its limitations. But every newer keyboard, that is otherwise objectively better design-wise, has fewer keys and that is not a compromise I can make :(

@squirts1

2 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for ergodox or dygma or... anyone... to make one with a thumb joystick (i still use a logitech g13). or swappable thumb clusters.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Our approach is that the extra thumb keys and the programmability make up for it, specially since the lower has a very negative effect on ergonomics. Reaching for it causes you hand to move quite a bit, displacing it from the homerow.

When can we expect to purchase it? Loving it and I want it now haha

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hello there! We expect to launch the Kickstarter campaign in April. We'll offer early-bird discounts in it. Then we'll start with the manufacturing and we expect to deliver the first units during the fall. Don't worries, we'll make big announcements and will let everyone knwo when it's available for pre-purchase. Here, via newsletter, in all social media, and any communications we can imagine. Trust us, we also want it for sale now 😉

I need this in my life.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Well, the Kickstarter launches on June 1st 😊. You can follow the Kickstarter page dygma.com/kickstarter

Are the thumb cluster keys positioned so that you could replace them with your own keycaps? It's kind of hard to tell due to the unique shape of each key.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

They are mounted on standard switches and Choc switches, but I'm afraid they're not going to be easy to replace. In order to make them comfortable and easy to reach, we have shaped them and created a unique set of keycaps. You might be able to replace them, but they probably won't feel as comfortable as the originals

@DCXCIII

2 жыл бұрын

​@@DygmaLab Thanks for the info; that's good to know. Just for clarification though is there enough space between each switch that you could replace all the thumb cluster keycaps with normal ones and none of them would interfere with each other? I'm also part of the crowd that uses more than 10 layers btw.

One important question: Did Dominique throw the cables back at whoever threw the ball at her? Inquiring minds want to know! The D.Defy looks awesome and Dygma is hitting all the right keys (dabumtiss!) with this new model. Replaceable batteries is a very, very welcomed decision that shows you do care about your customers, thank you!

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Replying to your question: yes! And the "clack" you hear is not a post-production sound, she really threw them hard 😅

This is absolutely wild.

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😊

Will there be blank and fully translucent keycaps available as an option? I want to get the most of RGBW and don’t shan’t to lose any light to opaque krycaps or legends.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Gerald, We will have dash keycaps, they work as blanks, but allow light to shine through. That way you can use the LEDs as visual support. The Dash keycaps have an incredible lighting, you'll be able to make the most of the light. As for translucent, I don't think they are on the roadmap. However, if you rally enough Dygmates, we'll have to consider it 😉

When is this scheduled to actually be released? I want to play :)

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Kickstarter is this May, shipping in Q42022

If the keyboard is at the highest incline, will my hands slip off? Or does the palm pad and design of the key caps allow for your hands to feel snug? May not seem like an issue but over long hours of working, hands can get tired too. Thank you!

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

The palm pads are very helpful to keep your hands in place comfortably. However, a high degree angle might need some adjustments in your setup. You'll probably need to sit a bit higher and adjust everything else accordingly 😊

Im new to kickstarters, If the kickstarter will launch late april, how many days before we can order and actually get the keyboard?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hello B G When we launch the Kickstarter campaign in April, we'll open the pre-sales phase. During which you'll be able to purchase the keyboard at a reduced price. Then, we'll start manufacturing the product, that should take a few months. When we finish, we'll ship the units, starting with those who joined in during the Kickstarter campaign. We expect to ship the keyboards during fall. I can't be more specific. The pros of joining in during the campaign are the reduced price and the early availability. The cons are that you're going to pay for a product months before receiving it.

I don't have a split keyboard, just wondering, how are we going to remember the keys in the thumb cluster since they do not have prints on them. Do we usually just memorize what we have configured in the software?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Whenever you make changes to the keyboard, it takes a while to get used to, but not more than a couple days. Besides, there are things you can do to help to remember the setup: - Use colors to differenciate them - Having bazecor open in the backgruound to remember - Print the layout or just draw the keys and the setting in a piece of paper to look at it. Either way, getting used to the thumbkeys is very easy and does not take long. Hope this helped with the question 😉

A friend of mine loves my dygma and I showed her this one. She said Dygma Raise is cuter and Defy looks like a pair of Japanese sandals (called zouri). Because of her, Defy looks like a Giant footprints to me now. Iol. I find Raise more stylish but I would love to try non-staggered keyboard as i gave up on using Raise for a num pad. I always get lost where my fingers are with staggered num pad. Anyway, have the wrist pad improved from the previous batches? I think my Dygma Raise was 2nd or 3rd one. My left pad dried up and lost adhesion because it could not lay flat on surface. Have you found a better manufacturer?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We had some name suggestions along that same idea, Yeti and Bigfoot were among the 750+ list. You're not alone on that one 😂 Regarding the palm pads, we're trying different solutions to improve the adherence on the Defy. The palm pads in the Raise remain the same. They improved from batch 2 to 3, but they are a contentious part of the keyboard because they have to handle a lot of friction, if there's even the slightest problem on the surface, it tears, dries and loses adherence. But on the manufacturers defence, most of the units are holding ok, and if there's any problem, our customer support department will help you.

@origamis9477

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Thanks for the update on the wrist pad. I was very disappointed about the wrist pad at the time of purchase, but when I saw somebody reviewing the very first batch comparing to the 2nd, I saw a lot of improvement. I felt better that I invested in the company that listens to customer's feedback. It would depend on the price, but I am interested in the kickstarter. Good luck, team. :)

If I decide to get this instead of the Raise, it'll be my first columnar keyboard, so I'd like to know if gaming on a columnar keyboard feels any better or worse. The WASD keys, in particular, look like they'd be a bit awkward to press, because of the stagger, but I might be very wrong. Anyone got experience to share? And one more thing: will the built-in tenting be made of the same aluminum as the rest of the keyboard?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

I would say it depends on the game. For games that heavily rely on muscle memory and reactions (FPS) it might be a bit annoying, especially in the begginig. However, it should not take too much to adapt. For a MOBA or a MMORPG, it should be less of a problem, the horizontal disposition is more similar and you don't have to use as many rows as you do in shooters. In the end, it will all come down to adapting to the keyboard. If you can type, probably gaming is not an issue after a few weeks. But for sure you're going to go through some adaptation period, in which you will curse the keyboard every time you get killed 😅 It's not different than when you make a "gaming layer" in the Raise and have to relearn it. It's hard in the beggining, but it eventually pays off

Will the Defy have much support for alternative keyboard layouts such as Colemak?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

If you mean with the keycaps, we intend to offer the dash keycaps option, intended to support any layout 😅 We just released them for the Raise, and they look great 😎

What kind of keycaps does it have? Regular OEMs, Cherry ...? Are they different for each row? I'm asking, because I don't use a regular layout, so I need to move the caps, which of course only works, when they are the same.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

In the prototype, we're using OEM, but we're considering offering flat profile like XDA too so you can easily move them around.

@FryKFlibble

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Thanks for the reply. XDA is quite a nice profile. But I could never find any that had translucent "labels" ...

Is there any discount or return of Dygma raise possible in case I bought it recently and wanna buy the new one? Thank u

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! We don't have a trade-in program as of now. But here's an idea: you can enjoy your Raise until the Defy is shipped (Q4 2022) and then sell the Raise in the second-hand market 😊

What's the URL for the Kickstarter campaign? I know it won't be live yet

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, sorry, we don't have that set up yet 😅

This keyboard looks amazing I've always been a huge fan of the Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 but when LED came to town there wasn't really a lot of good options. My only worry when talking about this with my wife is how long will it take to setup and get used too. Not that it would stop me from getting one but I would like to know what your research has found like an honest opinion on tester trying it for the first time and on average how long did it take them. For example I'd imagine I would set this up try it while off work then while working switch to my normal keyboard until I reasonably got the new one down. Do you agree with that or disagree? Thanks!

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

If you already touch type and you are used to a split keyboard (kind of like the Microsoft Ergonomic) getting used to a columnar is not too hard. For some it can be a week, others a month. But nothing crazy. If you don't touch type or have never used a split keyboard, it can be a bit more tricky, for those cases we recommend the Dygma Raise, which has a standard layout and you can start using it like a conventional keyboard (and then explore the features step by step).

@SeeonX

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Is the red version already out? Can I buy that now?

When can we expect an release of this amazing product?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We'll launch the Kickstarter this month. We intend to ship the first units by Fall. Sorry we can't get into more specific dates 🙏

@matthiasbroek8055

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Only one more week in this month. Kickstarter launch imminent or delayed? And any plans to update the raise with build in tenting and/or wireless?

I like the idea - not sure about the the thumb though - but really good

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! We'll be publishing a video on the design of the thumb cluster soon, so stay tuned for that 😊

looking cool

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

Question: what's the method of connectivity? Is it only Bluetooth, or will there also be some type of 2.4GHz? (I'm wondering if this would be good enough for fast paced shooters.) Also, what wizardry are y'all doing to get the two halves to communicate since there's no wired neuron? :think:

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

It will connect both via Bluetooth and RF, just in case you want to play some FPS 😉 How is it going to connect? If I told you, I'd had to silence you and then do it to myself 😅 so we better wait and see when we make the big reveals

@EgrojMPG

2 жыл бұрын

The two halves signal each other using the under-glow LEDs. Did you think they were just for show? 😜

This looks exactly like what I need :) does bazecor work on Linux, or does this keyboard have QMK support? Either with work probably 😁

@DygmaLab

7 ай бұрын

It doesn't support QMK, but Bazecor does work with Linux! 😊

@Vancha112

7 ай бұрын

@@DygmaLab thank you very much

does the defy still have low profile key switches for the thumb clusters?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Andy, The answer is yes, four keys on each side will be mounted on low-profile switches. However, the keycaps will have custom shapes to be more comfortable.

Can backlit change color when I press layout key? For example would be nice if I press layout for arrow keys, the backlit under WASD would change color so I would spot easily them.

@DygmaLab

9 ай бұрын

Yes! Of course. You can configure the color of each individual key for each layout 😊 You can see how to configure that in this other video kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4Vt3K6zltzKpbg.html

A bit torn. I was looking to buy now and stumbled across this. But I'm afraid to ask how much this will run, lol

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Linh. We expect to release a base version with a similar price point to the Raise. Then, on top of that, you can mount the different add-ons: The base with the tenting kit. The wireless kit and the Underglow. You will be able to choose any number of add-ons and each one of them will increase the price. I can't tell you the exact figures, mainly because we don't know them yet, but we'll release the information as soon as possible. Hope this helps, even a little 😉

Come on, I was planning Raise to be my last keyboard. I have already invested into both keyboard and tenting kit. Any plans to make a wireless kit for it too?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! We'll eventually make a wireless Raise, but making a wireless kit is extremely complicated as it requires batteries 😅

@AntonAverin

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab my thought was towards a big Neuron that could work as a battery and USB hub when connected. There would still be a cable between two halves, but cable between Neuron and laptop could be removed

Can we also see a black version and no RGB/underglow? I'm planning to buy this for office use and I don't want to catch too much attention.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Underglow will be optional, -and you can also configure it to be off. So it can be as stealthy as you want.

I've only got one thing in particular causing me to hesitate: for gaming on a normal keyboard (or my amazing Raise), Ctrl and Space are handled by two different fingers because they often need to be used simultaneously in certain games. However, while the Defy has that left-most row for Tab, Caps, and Shift, it doesn't have a key for Ctrl. For normal typing, that's not a big deal, but for gaming, it seems to me that having Space and Ctrl on thumb keys would become problematic for consistently controlling them simultaneously. (I'm simulating that with my Raise thumb keys to get an idea, and it's difficult/awkward to use my thumb on both like I would need to when gaming.) Any thoughts?

@Yagisho

2 жыл бұрын

Don't have a Dygma Raise, so I haven't personally used their software. But couldn't you have the keys on the left be Crtl, Shift, and Tab? And just move Caps Lock to the thumb cluster rather than Ctrl being in the thumb cluster.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

You can create an ad-hoc layer for gaming. Some of our staff has it and they seem to be pretty happy with the results 😉 Jokes aside, there's a column of keycaps to the left of the Q and the A. You can place the control there and the space in the thumb, so you got that covered. We wold never forget about gamers... Cause some of us are 😋

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

You can remove the capslock completely, it's a relic from the times of typewritters 😂 And you're 100% right, you can place the ctrl and caps on the left.

@roguemyst1244

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yagisho That would get the job done. Thanks!

@roguemyst1244

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Well of course caps lock is an ancient relic from ages long forgotten lol. I use it for Enter which is great for normal use and gaming. I just didn't bother explaining all that in the question so as not to throw people off.

Will you offer a low profile version (ex choc switches)?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Alex, Unfortunately not. That would require another PCB and we don't have enough manpower to tackle it 😅 We'd like to, but we can't promise anything, sorry

ok, I want one, need one, just what I wanted, the Dygma wireless

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We intend to launch the Kickstarter campaing during April and we've already opened a Newsletter, you can join in here: kickstarter.dygma.com/ We're really eager to provide you with one!

@PhanorColl

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab yeah, I already signed up for the Newsletter, cant wait to get my hands on one.. :)

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We're as eager to send it as you are to receive it 😊

my daily driver is a Moonlander. Will probably add this to my collection

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

That would make us happy 😊

Can I customize the keys next to the 'TGB' and 'YHN' to be letters as well? I am a fast type +100wpm but have a weird but very common typing fault which is I cross my 'Y' and 'B' where I type my 'Y' with m left hand and the 'B' with my right hand - so bottom line can I customize some of those dashed buttons on either or side to letters to solve my problem? And no, I don't want to learn lol very happy with my typing at this point

@DygmaLab

Ай бұрын

Of course! The keyboard is fully programmable so you can customize every key as you like :-)

@DygmaLab

Ай бұрын

Hello! Yes, you can assign any function to any key, including those columns. There's a default layout, but you can modify it with Bazecor. Just in case you want to check it, you can download Bazecor here dygma.com/pages/programmable-split-keyboard And connect it to a virtual keyboard, just to explore and see the possibilities.

any chance you could increase the layers to more than 10. I personally use 16 layers on my moonlander

@metatypers8078

2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I use effectively 15 layers and am able to get past the 10 layer limit. I combine several application specific layers together using software that detects the front-most application. I'd love to share layer ideas if you have a chance.

@Baxtexx

2 жыл бұрын

Thats insane. 🤣 I have 5 layers but only use 3.

@masoteca

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I only use regularly like 4 of the 7 I have in my lily58 and most of them are full macros for compiling code or vcs operations but this makes me wonder wtf do u do

@EgrojMPG

2 жыл бұрын

@@masoteca I haven´t breached 10 layers yet, but one thing I do is I have a mirror layer for every normal layer. Thus I can switch left-right side to access any key with any hand. So far I have 4 layers with corresponding mirrors and one extra layer for gaming, so I do see the 10 layer max as a small limitation of the D.Defy

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We never thought anybody would use more than 10, but we'll look into it.

I have a Dygma Raise. I was backer #2** I'm still a bit mad that I was not allowed to order a silver base with black keycaps. And instead, I was told I could order the silver/white keyboard and also order extra black keycaps. Sorry, but no. It's already expensive enough. So I had to settle with the all black keyboard. I am not paying extra for something that is not that hard to offer as a choice. So, my question is: Will we be able to order the base and keycaps in different colors when the Defy is available to order? Thanks.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! First of all, thanks for being backer #2! An honor to meet you 😊 Second. Sorry for the keycap thing. The problem with mixing keycaps is that it's a logistic nightmare, at least to us right now, thus that's why we don't offer that option. It seems easy, but there's a lot of moving pieces. But, for this new keyboard -and, in the future, for the Raise- we're looking into changing our logistics, so that we can offer more customization options, such as mixing the black base with silver keycaps (or viceversa).

@H3llb0und

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab thanks for the reply. I will consider getting the Defy if/when that option is available. Because the Raise is still as good as the day I received it. Also, I was not backer #2... I was backer #200 something...

@giancarloliwanag1896

2 жыл бұрын

This is a valid point.

is there an estimated availability date for the defy?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Kickstarter in late April or early May, shipping for Fall.

@Dm9XD

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Does the software allow to create per application layers and auto-switch between layers when focusing on a different application?

@DygmaLab

8 ай бұрын

Hi, there! It does not. Such a fetaure will require to have Bazecor running at all times and provide access to the processes on the computer. In doing so, users in safe environments won't be able to use the keyboard. We designed so you can configure it at home and use it everywhere, the drawback being you have to change layers manuallly 😅

@Udrys999

8 ай бұрын

@@DygmaLab I would still appreciate if there was some sort of an 'override' or a different version of Bazecor with such an option for people like me, who constantly alt-tab between photo/video/audio editors. And all of them have different assignments for ctrl/shift/alt modifiers, that cannot be freely modified. Those buttons are the ones, that cause the most problems for me. And each extra click for changing layers becomes an annoyance. At this point I would have to use Bazecor to set the thumb buttons to some weird unused keyboard combinations of keys and then use reWASD (a software that allows per-app remapping layers) to tweak each program profile. Nice design, though. Might consider it one day.

@DygmaLab

8 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for the input, it's a very interesting user experience, and we should also consider those options.

Does the board itself store its configuration if you change computers with it?

@DygmaLab

11 ай бұрын

Hey Rachael, all your config will be stored in the Neuron, so you can take your configuration to other computers easily! The configs will work on other machines even if they don't have Bazecor installed, so you're safe to use it on the work computer too, for example. Here's another video suggestion, I'm sure you'll be amazed by the keyboard: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnWMxdGtksm6abQ.html

Is there software to control the rgb? And is it compatible with razer synaps

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Hi Codyisme, The answer is yes. The Defy will be customizable via Bazecor, the software we developed to customize our keyboards. It's not compatible with the Synapse software, but it has plenty of funcionalities, controlling the RGB among them 😉

Is there only one wireless connection or does it support wireless & bluetooth? How many devices can I connect too?

@DygmaLab

8 ай бұрын

The keyboard supports both RF and BT, depending on where you plug the Neuron. In RF, it works with the device you plug the Neuron in. In BT, you can toggle between five devices with a key.

@EccentricRogue

8 ай бұрын

@DygmaLab without moving the neuron can I switch from the wireless band to the Bluetooth band by a push of a button?

Here's the thing. I've been a full-time content writer for 5+ years. I have an average of 120-130wpm while writing with a TKL mechanical keyboard (high profile). I have never felt any discomfort or pains in my hands or wrists, even though I've quite literally been spending 10-11 hours per day at my computer, every day, for the last 5+ years. For all intents and purposes, I cannot fathom why I would ever try a different keyboard layout or an ergonomic one. I don't feel as if I lack anything. Is there anything I'm missing? How could my experience improve with the Dygma Defy? Will the wrist pains manifest later on in life? I've basically been a computer nerd all my life, playing games and typing. Never felt any pains or wrist discomfort at all, even after a 10 hours of work or games. I'm not necessarily looking to upgrade or try out a new keyboard. It's just that I'm genuinely wondering how could my experience improve given that I currently feel no need for improvement.

@DygmaLab

5 ай бұрын

Hi! Well, one of the things you point out is critical: risk prevention. Most of the injuries caused by bad posture or wrist extension and ulnar deviation can become chronic, and then you'll only be able to use ergonomic keyboards. The other aspect is productivity: with programmable layers, shortcuts, macros, superkeys and whatnot, you can type and edit faster.

Would you consider this a gaming keyboard what is the poll rate?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! We're working to make even faster than our previous keyboard (the Dygma Raise). We don't have an exact poll rate as of now, but the Defy will be able to send a registered keystroke to the computer in less than 1ms. But comms latency is just a part, there's also hardware debounce to be considered.

Critique & Thoughts: 1. I think the wrist rest re-mounting mechanism should be re-designed. => Magnets? 2. Batteries, unclear if it's an internal battery or takes usage of AAA's? Are they rechargable? Can we charge both with the same cable? 3. Bluetooth, which protocol? 4. They look kind of "plasticky" - Am I wrong here?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there Daniel! Thanks a lot for those inputs and the ideas. Let me try to clarify some of the questions! 1.- We're working to improve that part. Still not sure which will be the solution, but the improvement of the palm pads has always been a goal for the product team. 2.- Internal battery for sure. Rechargable with the cable and with a lifespan of at least 20 hours with all the lights at maximum brightness. Which is a lot of brightness 😉 3.- We're still working on the final touches. We intend to be able to work with both BT and RF 4.- Not sure what you mean, but the keyboard will have a metal top panel. Anyway, we'll work to remove that feeling 😉 Hope I was able to help!

@eldelacajita

2 жыл бұрын

The palm pads re-mounting mechanism is better than it looks, at least in the Raise. Just wash, dry and they will stick perfectly with no need for glue. It surprised me.

TikTok celebrity ahahahahah! Good one!

@dominiquegarcia6376

2 жыл бұрын

Haha can't believe they did that

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Our video editor always surprises us

I now have even more reasons to support the Kickstarter!

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the support! Hope we can deliver up to the expectations 😊

@kentslocum

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab You have already exceeded my expectations with the Dygma Raise (one which I use for myself, and one which I gifted to my Mom who has carpal tunnel syndrome).

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Well, if you have the Raise that only adds some more pressure because we have to top it 😂 But I think we're ready for the challenge. Besides, the Defy is what we envisioned as the keyboard with everything we could put in that much space. We think it's ready, even for users with such a good taste as yours 😉 P.S: Wish your Mom has improved from her Carpal tunnel syndrome, send her lots of hugs on our behalf!

@kentslocum

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab The tenting kit has made the biggest improvement in her condition, so I'm glad that it's built into the Defy! Even though I won't be using the wireless feature, it's nice to know it exists just in case. However, the feature I'm most looking forward to is the columnar layout. I'm already touch-typing Dvorak, so I'm excited to map the Dvorak layout onto the columnar keyboard!

What mouse is Dominque using @1:24-1:50?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

It's this one: Delux Wireless Vertical Mouse www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Ergonomic-Wireless-Bluetooth-M618mini-Pink/dp/B07J4HKLFH/

Great😊

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you ❤️

So the batteries are not rechargeable? I would've thought with the usb connectivity that the batteries could be recharged if connected via usb. If the keyboard is connected via usb cable, are batteries then not necessary?

@DygmaLab

8 ай бұрын

Hey there! The batteries are definitely rechargeable 🔋 You can also use the keyboard without batteries, as long as it's connected by USB! 😊

I have a feeling that it requires some sort of "hand holder" if I turn it 60 degrees so my hand won't slide down, and I don't have to have it strained to keep it in position.

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

I wee how you might feel that, but it's not necessary. The slight pressure your hands make to type is more than enough to keep them in place. Think of grabbing a basketball that is resting on your desk, slightly above the "Ecuador".

Will you offer Nordic keycaps in the Kickstarter?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, we're still deciding on the final design. We would like to offer language options, similar to the Raise. However, with the columnar layout and the fact that most of the keycaps that change from language to language are not in the keyboard, the language layouts have less impact in the Defy than in the Raise. That's what we're considering the option of just offering one default layout for all languages. The most likely outcome is that we offer the Nordic Keycaps, but we're still closing those details 😋

"Since we launched our new keyboard..." LET ME BUY IT!!! :D

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We should have said "announced" 😅

@NemesisLex

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Yeah, I thought I’ve missed the Kickstarter Campaign 😅

Is it travel friendly? light weight also?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

It comes with it travel case that is the size of a 13" laptop. But it also weights around 1kg (2 pounds approx.)

Your webpage is in euros how do we buy it/ pre-order it in USD?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

It's Kickstarter. You can pledge in euros and your card / bank will charge you in dollars applying the exchange rate.

20hrs of Battery on max brightness sounds rly good 🤔

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Our engineers are squeezing the largest batteries possible in the body 😅

Is there a wired version, and does it have tap dance?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Wireless is optional (and the wireless version can also work wired). And we have implemented tap tap dance (we call it Superkeys) in the beta of the next version of our softy.

Do the batteries not recharge when plugged in?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the batteries are rechargeable and will recharge when plugged in. We meant that they can be easily replaced in case of failure or if their capacity diminishes with time.

I wonder if it could support low profile caps?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

You mean like a cherry profile? Or are you looking for low-profile switches? The first, yes. The second, no. The distance from the PCB to the plate is different.

@davidcauchi

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Low profile switches yeah. Are there plans for a low profile keyboard in the future?

What mic are you using?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

We use the HyperX Quadcast 🥰

When is the release?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Our plan is to start shipping in January 2023, and so far, we're on schedule. The keyboard is currently on pre-sale with a discount, in case you were wondering 😋

Hope it's not gonna cost fortune. Cant wait forr this keyboard(s). Look awesome and really practical. Thats sad that after watching that video I need come back to my desk and write my code on my boring and not ergonomic keyboard.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mateusz, Thanks for those kind words, we tried to make the keyboard some of us always wanted but never have been able to find 😅 Don't say mean things about your keyboard, it has, for sure, helped you countless times, show it some love 🥺 As for the price, we intend to release a basic version (no uderglow, no wireless, no tenting) with a similar price point to the current Raise. Then, you'll be able to add one, two, or the three add ons for a price each. Also, during the Kickstarter campaing, we'll offer early bird discounts. I recommend you don't sleep on them 😉 Sorry I can't be more precise with the figures, but we have not the final numbers yet.

Will there be QMK?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We're working to offer the possibility. However, it's going to take a while before it's available. It takes a while to get the chips, program them and make sure everything works to a point where we can release it to the public. Besides, right now we're focusing our efforts in improving our current software and firmware for the Raise and making sure everything is fine with the defy. We intend to expand the development team and tacke such projects in time, but right now we have to focus oour manpower in improving our current users' experience. Hope you understand 😅

can it take low profile swiches?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, no. It will take only Cherry MX Styled switches, but there's a huge variety on those in the market. The Thumbcluster area has some low-profile switches but these would work only on these positions.

I love it! Where the heck does anyone get 300 dlls to get one?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Hi Elvan, We know it does not come cheap, but it's been impossible for us to push the price lower. Maybe because we manufactured in the post-pandemic/ chipocaliptic world, but don't despair, hopefully we'll make some disocunts in the future 💪

@rockereivanivan

Жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab oh no, I'm sorry I didn't wanted to sound like a complaint, it's just English is not my native language, I'm actually saving some money to get one some time in the future. I really really love this keyboard :D

Having "Shift" in a new place is quite scary as I won't be able to only use this keyboard all the time (different keyboard at the workplace). So I would have to rethink typing everytime I'm switching the keyboard. Sadly that was one of the reasons I was never able to really use the full potential of my "Raise" Thumb Buttons. Although I really love the design and I think I would totally love using it, I will have to pass as I can't drop 1k into two keyboards :D

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

In this layout you can keep shift where it's in a conventional keyboard. We just removed the modifier row (the one below the shift). Although of course you can move it to wherever you want 😊

I just want to say that I bought the Dygma Raise keyboard and I really felt a bit cheated. There´s no info that the layer key/keys takes a whole second for it to change layer on the keyboard. I bought mine in 2020 Cyber week / Cyber Monday and I´ve really tried to love it. I´m now buying a new one without layer keys for it being soooooo much faster to type on a larger keyboard. I give the keyboard a 3/5. If this new Dygma Defy has the same problem I´ma just face palm....

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there Nick. That's not how the dual-function keys are meant to work. Well, unlees you set them up. You can change the overlay between the tap and the hold in the "prefereces menu". There, you'll be able to adjust the amount of time you have to hold a key to activate the secondary function. Hope that helps, if not, please write us to contact@dygma.com and we'll provide a solution!

@nicknigals6537

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Thank you! That helped me a lot! I had version 0.25 which explains a lot… the preference menu had no duel function key parameters like in version 0.33. Although I would love an auto update or at least a update button in the software like the firmware update. I also want to point out a bug in the software when you adjust the parameters for the whole page and scroll down to press send changes to the raise all above go back to default. Is would be much better for it to stay changed.

@meanmole3212

Жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Can you program the dygma defy so that when you hold down a modifier key, the keyboard layout changes instantly and stays on until you release the modifier key?

I'm not hearing a release date. What do you guys have in mind?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there! We can't give specifics for the release date because we don't really have them. The following steps are the Kickstarter campaing, which will launch in April and start manufacturing right after. Our goal is to ship the first units by Fall. The concrete dates are stil a bit uncertain, but that's our roadmap for the release.

Is there a mouse functionality like on the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there! If you mean the track ball add-on that the UHK has on the right side, I'm afraid it does not. However, the software allows you to configure keys that move the mouse.

@xyphoidprocess

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab No, I meant the keys that you can configure. Great to hear Dygma Defy will have that too!!

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear! We intend the Defy to work on the new and improved Bazecor (our software) so it should have, at least, the same functionalities the Raise has

Will you offer blank keycaps?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

We have our version of black keycaps: dash keycaps. They are blank with a dash that lets light shine through 😊

When can we buy?

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter! We intend to launch the Kickstarter campaign next month, so you'll be able to pre-purchase it (with discount) in about a month or so. We intend to start shipping the first units during the fall. Those are our timelines, we intend to keep them, but sh** happens and sometimes there are factors that might delay it, but that's our idea.

@peterngo1224

2 жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab i am so ready so this. Been going wireless everything but except the dygma current keyboard. Hopefully the Defy will help my cat load 100 % in the avatar

The only reason I didn't buy this one was that shipping is until december; my hands can't wait :(

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Maybe we'll be able to convince you once it's in stock 😊

Panda color - one white one black. Connection to multiple devices please!

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

We'll offer connection to 3 different devices via bluetooth. And we're also looking into more customizing options like mixing body and keycaps of different colors.

So the battery is not rechargable?

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! The batteries are rechargeable! They will charge when connected to a USB port and you can even use an external powerbank if you want 😊 Let us know if you have more questions about the project, there are many other newer videos that show and answer a lot more of questions too if you want to check them out 😋

@neosfinito121

Жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab Thank you so much, I really want an ergonomic keyboard cause I have been getting wrist strains but I guess I have to wait until June when you release this new edition.Thanks for replying!

I just realized that you can set one half aside and replace it with your mouse if you are playing an FPS!

@DygmaLab

11 ай бұрын

Oh yeah! You can have one half there and the rest of the table for your mouse. No more bumps to the keyboard side that would only make your aim or fast movement worst 😸

I want something really similar, but with trackpads integrated..

@DygmaLab

11 ай бұрын

Oh, that would be cool to have! We want to work on something similar on the future too, don't worry 😻

@carina_akaia

11 ай бұрын

@@DygmaLab Can't wait!!

Rip hopes of this being a high profile thiccboi alu case But still pretty cool. Love my raise.

@DygmaLab

2 жыл бұрын

🤷‍♀️😅

I want buy this! But im live in KZ/Almaty

@DygmaLab

Жыл бұрын

Hey, we use DHL for shipping and looks like they can ship to Kazakhstan, no problem at all 🥰

@ixilimuse8521

Жыл бұрын

@@DygmaLab thank you! 🙏 I'm already looking at your site, and count the budget)))