Hey guys! Just fyi, YES, I am fully aware that the photo at 3:11 is of actor Karl Malden, not Franklin J Schaffner. It is a photo of him accepting the Oscar for Franklin J Schaffner for Patton (the movie mentioned in the video). You don't need to keep telling me! It was a mistake made due to a mix up in my editing assets folder that I did not notice at first and has since been fixed for the future. Thank you!

@hilaryc8648

5 ай бұрын

As an aside do you think Karl Malden would have made a good orangutan in the original films?

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

@@hilaryc8648 Either an orangutan or a gorilla

@RockBrentwood

8 күн бұрын

Notice the ornamentation 0:20 to the left of the bomb molded in the shape of the stylized form of the Radioactive Site icon? Notice, also, that Taylor knew about the missile and its operation, but Brent did not. That means the project came from Taylor's time, the 1970's, and that it was classified. Hasslein, who was in the third movie and whose time warping theory was mentioned in the first movie was - by the expanded universe (in a 2018 novel) - involved in the creation of the missile. The planet-destroying effects of the missile were powerful enough to have an effect on time (and space travel) that was not accounted for by Hasslein's theory. It created a back-link to the time travel warp covertly(*) mentioned in the first movie that Cornelius, Zira and Milo passed back through after Milo helped scavenge a working ship together from the parts of Liberty 1 and Liberty 2. (*) Hasslein's theory is *not* Relativity, since 2000 years passed for a ship Taylor said was going 320 light years at nearly light speed, not the 320 years Relativity says would pass. That's a bona fide time warp: time travel, not time dilation.

Charlton Heston: "I'll only do this movie if Taylor gets killed off." Producers: "Got it. Taylor kills everyone." Charlton Heston: "... okay, sure."

@sumthingwikked4257

5 ай бұрын

Chuck was like "Now THAT'S an ending"

@Chris_Thorndyke

Ай бұрын

This is why I hate the movie

@guilhermehank4938

Ай бұрын

Chuck Heston: At least there wont be anymore movies after this. Producers: Well, about that...

@Chris_Thorndyke

Ай бұрын

@@guilhermehank4938 The Fanbase: F*ck!

@RockBrentwood

Күн бұрын

Actually, it was Zaius; perhaps unwittingly, but still him nonetheless. It's in the missing context: "Zaius, help me [turn this damned thing off]". That's *actually* what he was asking for, by his plea for help. Zaius gaslit him and refused to help, so he basically went: "Well, if that's the way you feel about it, if you insist; no loss to me, I'm already on my way out." and repeating the line that Hasslein told Taylor when he let him in on his classified Churchdoor Project that created the Alpha-Omega, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Creator and the Destroyer of Worlds. From my cold dead fingers." [press, press, boom, boom].

Nova carries this film. Her reactions are gold.

@ChucksCherubs3

5 ай бұрын

"TAELUH!!"

@RoosterMontgomery

5 ай бұрын

Yes, but why is she the only primitive with perfect teeth, skin, hair, and facial makeup? I know, she's there to be eye candy and yummy yum yum, isn't she?

@DrSho

5 ай бұрын

She was the girlfriend of the producer

@user-gz6hp7ef6w

4 ай бұрын

@@DrShoI wish she was my girlfriend!

@mikegleed5842

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-gz6hp7ef6wWord 😎🙌

I enjoy this film. It is my 2nd favorite of the series. I always thought how ironic that Taylor cries out in the first film about “them” blowing it up. HE then in the 2nd film reduces the entire planet to a cinder. He decides that neither man nor ape is worthy to exist.

@MicahMicahel

5 ай бұрын

it was using a nightmare logic. It was such a dark ending... and so abrupt.

@Christopher-ye6cv

Ай бұрын

He was a cynical character.

@slappyabromowitz

Ай бұрын

Spot on

@guilhermehank4938

Ай бұрын

@@Christopher-ye6cv Cynical? Yes but this was straight up nihilistic

The scene where they peeled off their faces freaked the hell out of me as a child. The only problem with this film is no Roddy McDowell.

@user-dk3up2nl1m

5 ай бұрын

I never knew he was Not in it. I thought he was in the scenes when Brent came to visit

@davidsharp5966

5 ай бұрын

I guess he was kind of in it, the recap before the opening credits.

@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732

4 ай бұрын

@@user-dk3up2nl1m Roddy was busy at the time. They recast the role. Zira was the more important character anyway.

@Thenogomogo-zo3un

4 ай бұрын

That really gave me nightmares. And that they could control minds by telepathy, terrifying.

Ursus was a pre-Vader Villan, the leather outfit including the helmet. When I saw Star Wars at age of 12, Vader remind me planet of the apes.

@BarryHart-xo1oy

Ай бұрын

That’s a good insight-l never thought of it in that way before,but I can see how the outfit worn by Ursus prefigures Vader’s outfit.

I just love the insanity of Beneath! The dream logic that drives the series from this point on is nonsensical but so much fun if you just go with it.

@toddblackwood129

5 ай бұрын

Easily my favorite, the scenes of the mutants pulling their faces off kept me awake at night for years!

@MicahMicahel

5 ай бұрын

I think it's the most rewatchable of all the ape movies. It could be because of the freewheeling script with pacing problems that makes it so good. It could also be that I watched these movies as a kid and we used to watch them every year during the marathons. This one was the one that scared people. Too much of an emotional bond with the movie to see its faults as actual faults. The movie created a world that seemed like you could walk around in it. The world they built was really effective. The movie had a magic that defied its faults.

@mikepastor.k6233

Ай бұрын

​@MicahMicahel that general was a hoot to watch and listen to.

@TowGunner

Ай бұрын

Idiotic but highly entertaining. Charlton Heston refused to be part of it but finally agreed to be part of it if his role was very small.

@guerracampo

Ай бұрын

❤❤❤

Films are a product of their time, and unless you grew up in the 1960s with the Cold War, Mutually Assured Destruction, the Vietnam War, and US cities burning with protests you can't understand how this film felt at the time of its release. I was 11 when the first PotA film came out and the film was mesmerizing, scary, and disturbing. It perfectly resonated with the mood and reality of the time. As a newly-minted teenager I saw Beneath and I completely loved it. The storyline of the scientists protesting against the military was exactly what we were actually experiencing every day due to the Vietnam War. We didn't have the hindsight later generations had about the Cold War and Vietnam War ending, we were in the middle of it and couldn't see a way out.

I had the reverse experience - This was the first Apes film I watched as a child, blew my mind and gave me a love of post-apocalyptic fiction that I've had my whole life.

I watched all the Apes sequels in a binge the first time too. From what little I knew, I expected Beneath to be some extended punchline. But then I found James Franciscus a charismatic lead, I really fell in love with Nova, and I was smacked upside the head with the Mutants and the Bomb cult. I found it really interesting

Despite the retread of the first half (meeting Nova, capture by gorillas, escape from Ape City), and the amount of obvious pullover masks, I think the new stuff with Ursus, the mutants (the costumes/makeup, sets and matte paintings are a fitting new, bizarre addition to this world) and the bleak ending are great enough to make it a worthy, memorable sequel. Plus the wonderful score by Leonard Rosenman!

I always liked beneath, it's my favorite sequel. I love all the action scenes and what a ending!

It still blows my mind that the producers of the original Apes films fell ass-backward into an amazing cyclical story arc across a series of films they never intended to keep making.

@acewickhamyoshi8330

5 ай бұрын

in School, we watched & reviewed every movie, the teacher wanted us to learn about dystopia drama, words used & context

@Earthtime3978

2 ай бұрын

@@acewickhamyoshi8330must have been torture to watch and review “Battle…” What a steaming pile of crap.

The ending of the film still gives me chills after all these years!

Beneath is my favorite Apes movie. The weirdness is what I like.

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

Definitely appreciate the weirdness of it!

Of all the sequels "beneath"and "conquest"are probably my favourites

@cmaples

5 ай бұрын

I completely agree! I feel the same.

@paulclow3398

5 ай бұрын

@@cmaples I recently watched "conquest", hadn't seen it in a long time, and I'd forgotten how dark and violent it was.

@artamussumatra6286

5 ай бұрын

Agree! I can’t believe so many people actually rate Escape as the best sequel - great to see Zira and Cornelius take the lead, but the ridiculous story really brings it down. Fortunately Conquest is a brilliant follow up.

@user-dk3up2nl1m

5 ай бұрын

Conquest was Powerful!

@TheRayvolution

2 ай бұрын

I loooove Conquest!

What confused me the most about this movie was how the mutants kept on going on about how they dont directly kill others and that they let their enemies destroy one another through mind control/mental influence, but yet they didn't even try to do that with the ape invasion on their city/compound. I do remember them saying that their illusions didn't work as well on apes as they do on other humans because of their thick skulls and smaller brains, but a scene showing the mutants at least trying to use this tactic would have been appreciated. It was filmed in a way that made them look like they were rolling over and allowing their people to die.

For me, this film drags until Brent and Nova flee into the underground cave. Up to that point, the film has pacing issues. But once Brent and Nova discover the underground subway, the film totally f-ing ROCKS!!!! The apocalyptic tone of the second half of this film is like an intense LSD trip or even a quasi-religious revelation.

I had no idea until later in life that people didn't like this one. Back in the 70s it was my brother and I's favorite. Taylor disappearing was jarring but the insanity of the mutants worshipping the bomb made it awesome. The ending was almost as shocking as the first one. I'll always love this movie. Edit. After reading the comments i see that I'm not alone. I notice people around my age seem to like it as much as we did. I'm glad. It's a cult classic.

Linda Harrison was gorgeous.

@jermainehaslam5634

3 ай бұрын

I liked how they had a beautiful woman portray the character because having this gorgeous woman in this world consumed by conflict and hatred just makes her more innocent and standout more.

@mikenichols3965

3 ай бұрын

And her performance is truly brilliant.

@Earthtime3978

2 ай бұрын

Probably better off she didn’t speak. When she said, “Taylor!”, it was rough.

I did actually enjoy this movie, but I always find that my favorite two sequels in this original series was "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" and "Battle for the Planet of the Apes." I felt how interesting it was that "Conquest" touched upon the themes of racism, slavery, and revolution, and was quite moved by the plight of the apes. I also felt that the governor's monologue at the end to Caesar and his ape army was really powerful in how it showed great insight into the mind of the oppressor as a person constantly afraid of the oppressed. And in "Battle" I really liked the fact that four points of view took center stage in the film, with the characters Caesar and McDonald on the side of coexistence and General Aldo and Governor Kolp were the individuals set on the path of genocide. Furthermore, watching the battle at the film's climax between Governor Kolp's army and Caesar's ape city, it was quite amazing to see the brilliant camera techniques that were applied to the scene to give the illusion of a massive engagement.

@Oppeldeldoc1

5 ай бұрын

I sometimes feel like the only fan of "Battle."

@white-dragon4424

5 ай бұрын

They've never explained how that bunch of mutants in LA not only got themselves to New York, but also got the huge ICBM there without any mass transit infrastructure.

@matthewkuchinski1769

5 ай бұрын

@@white-dragon4424 I did wonder about that, but figured that because the mutants had created an underground city and were living there for centuries that it might have been possible that they had found a way to carve out an even more extensive tunnel system than what existed before the events of "Battle."

@white-dragon4424

5 ай бұрын

@@matthewkuchinski1769 Must be extremely advanced mutants, to dig a tunnel that's over 2,400 miles long as the crow flies, and avoiding all the massive obstacles along the way. They might have just about been able to explain this obvious continuity error away if they'd pointed out that at least one mutant, maybe a future Mendez, had the ability to create wormholes. But then they'd have the problem of explaining why Mendez XXVI in Beneath didn't have this power.

Here’s something that finally occurred to me with 50 something years of being a fan: after re-reading the novels, one line stuck out to me. The book talks about heading north at the end of the original film. That’s when it struck me. Ape City is not in New York. It’s in New Jersey. Something there all this time, and I never realized it...

@robertwuster5102

5 ай бұрын

If you look at Zira's map in the first movie, when she asks Taylor where he came from, it looks like he walked from the Long Island Sound to New Jersey.

@rumblehat4357

5 ай бұрын

I will have to look at that again. But the fact that they went north to see the statue facing south and it was there all the time right on screen all these years is a bit of a revelation, especially when the statue is an icon of New York, so one would assume it was New York when in reality it wasn’t. The forbidden zone may extend into NY (as shown in Beneath,) but Ape City is in New Jersey. The beach cinches it. The water of the beach is on the right, meaning east of the location, where NY harbor should be. Traveling north, not west was specific to the movie and the novel Escape From the Planet Of The Apes specifically mentions “we traveled north.”

Traumatized me as a kid. What an ending!

@PungiFungi

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I never thought everybody would die at the end. As a dumbass kid I expected movies have happy endings.

A couple of things. One - Although they probably didn't know it at the time, the scene with Cornelius and Zira where she mentions what kind of future world, if there is one, she wants her unborn child to grow up in, foreshadows her pregnancy in the next film, "Escape". Second - There's a story in one of the 'Making of'/'Behind the Scenes' books where James Franciscus was so disappointed in Brent's dialogue in the script, that he spent a weekend rewriting it.

About the music, I used to work as a studio musician in Hollywood and when a film is rushed nobody is as rushed as the composer. Remember, they can't score a scene until the editor has finished cutting the scene, and sometimes the composer is only getting the scenes a few weeks before release. I was working on one film where we would record the music for a scene, then the composer would receive a NEW cut of that scene. (We were in LA, the editor was working in NY.) The music had to be thrown out, new music written then recorded. We spent most of one day just on one scene which the editor kept changing. When the film was released the music I recorded on that scene had been binned and due to the rush the composer had no choice but to use crappy synth music for that scene. The whole film was a mess, just a few weeks before release they fired the original composer and quickly hired a new one, who had to do what he could with the little time and budget remaining (due to the original composer using up most of the time and most of the budget). I'll bet that Jerry Goldsmith got a lot more time for the first film.

As a kid I had never seen Beneath, but in the early days of home video I was able to find and buy it on VHS. I was thrilled to see it as I was a fan of the franchise. Beneath seemed more imaginative to me because of the underground world of the mutants and I loved and still love General Ursus. While the singing in the church seemed a little weird and not my favorite part.

I think Dr Strangelove should be packaged as a double-feature with Beneath the Planet of the Apes. They take place near the start and near the end of the national nightmare that was the 1960s.

I really wished they spent more time with the two astronauts in the mutant land, but of course, Chuck Heston could only have a limited screen time, and I wish they had a longer time fighting with the apes at the end.. oh well, the general ape was worth watching alone..

I like a lot about this movie. I think it’s fun to follow the astronaut, knowing where he is before he does. That’s a bit of a twist from the original. I think when you get to the mutants up to the end of the movie it’s pretty awesome. I think it actually drags in the middle. Some of the “action“ scenes feel really slow to me and it takes a long time to get to the mutants. I would also argue that in one way this is the most important film in the sequels. The ending is referenced and motivates, almost everything that’s happening in the rest of the films.

It's so weird that this film with some really graphic violence in it was rated G back in the day. Hell, the first film was rated G with the violence and nudity in it!!

The scene from #3 in which Zira is recounting the date of Earth's destruction plays back in my mind a lot, for some reason.

@iscreemz4494

4 ай бұрын

"Thirty niiiiiiine... something..."

General Ursus 🦍 is the 🐐! Great actor/acting by Gregory! Yes, sad when Nova died. Harrison great job acting! The mutant make up amazing!

A plot point you may be overlooking in this film is that Taylor, who collapses at the end of Planet Of The Apes when realizing mankind has reduced the earth to a point where a new dominant species could rise above humans by way of nuclear destruction ultimately pushes the button and wipes out everything. I love this movie.

Universal pictures wanted Heston for their Colossus The Forbin Project film, but had to look elsewhere when they found out he was contracted for Beneath The Planet of the Apes. I wonder if Heston asked them, "you can't wait 8 days?"

@Earthtime3978

2 ай бұрын

Colossus is a great movie . Wish they’d do a 4K release.

This one is my favorite of all the films. I hope they address this again in a new film

It was my favorite sequel.

Love the channel keep up the good work, huge fan, awesome to find someone who articulates my same passion for classic sci-fi, and especially planet of the apes

I didn't know about your channel and have just caught this video on 'Planet of the Apes'. I was amazed that you were so hard on this film in the first quarter of your video. You were honest, but I was amazed none the less. Here is a different perspective. I've been an avid movie goer since I was 12, but somehow how I missed 'Planet of the Apes' in 1968. In 1971, I did see 'Beneath' at a theatre on a visit to California. I must say 'it blew my mind' and I just loved it! So, try to remember that often sequels are '1st films' for people who did not see the original. So the film maker has the challenge of introducing a 'new' film to the audience and yet satisfy the 'veteran' who saw the original. I still love the film today and of course I have now seen them all several times having a 'binge' festival by watching them all. I have not been able to bring myself to see any of the 'new' franchise of the films since I love the originals so much. Thank you for this video and I will see some of your other ones.

11:50 you have to remember that when this movie was shown on TV in the late 1970s and 80s, the pull over masks weren’t that much of a distraction on the analog broadcasts of the time. Well, at least as a child I didn’t notice them.

I'm rewatching the hole saga and I just discovered your channel. I just finished the second movie and I didn't remembered much of it, besides the fact that there was sometingh beneath the planet, and oh boy, what a great surprise. The first half of the movie is really hard to wath, specially considering how similar it is to the first one. But as soon as they get to the train station the movie changes, and I realy love the political aspect of the movie, the way that many groups are represented, and I feel like tha's the best part of the movie. I'm looking forward to see all the other movies again and remember why I love so much them, and now I get to watch with one more person to hear about it. Looking foward to the next one!

I think if Heston had wanted to contribute more to this story they could have left out the Brent storyline completely. A story of Taylor and Nova discovery of the mutants, and capture along with a parallel tale of the power struggle between the apes, concluding with their invasion of the forbidden zone, would have been better in my opinion. The studio over investment in dr dolittle didn't help 😂

@acewickhamyoshi8330

5 ай бұрын

In Australia, we were so familiar with american cities , even seeing the subway scene , made me emotional, ,, like,, oh those filthy humans , how why , also seeing sets messed up, was classic sci~fi, ,,, i recall even in star trek, they would rough up the Bonanza set on the weekendll ready for cowboy show on monday, ,, there is a reviewer who tracked down every planet of the apes locations &= also sets re~used for other shows ,, so entertaining,

@roccopatrone8843

5 ай бұрын

I agree 100%.... it wasn't bad as is but this could have been great if they just started the movie at the Statue of Liberty scene from the original and followed Taylor deeper into the forbidden zone.

@user-dk3up2nl1m

5 ай бұрын

...the thing was Charleton Heston refused to be in the entire movie. He just did he cameo so he can be killed off. It would have been Great had he played ball and done the whole thing instead

I really enjoyed your review. It was very thorough and well done. Personally I love this movie and find the mutants very interesting but still loved the review.

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Yeah, not one of my favorites, but I'm glad you love it!

Although I do come across Planet of the Apes stuff from time to time a lot of fresh videos on it have been coming up lately. New movies are really failing us but it's still great to see older movies getting fresh love and attention. Although I have seen all the movies of all the iterations, it's a long time since i've seen the original sequels. I listened to the audiobook, a lot of differences but a lot of parallels too. There is so much dignity in the writing.

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

I take it the audiobook is based on the original novelization by Michael Avallone? For whatever it's worth, I thought he handled the action in the final scene rather better than it played out in the movie. 🤔

@jamesabernethy7896

5 ай бұрын

@@goldenager59 it was the English version original Pierre boulle novella. It doesn’t credit who translated at to English, as far as I know he didn’t translate it himself.

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

@@jamesabernethy7896 Ah, I see. I know that one reviewer said of Boulle's opus that it was "respectfully descended from Swift on one side, and Verne on the other." 🤓

This is either my second or third favorite in the series. I originally saw the film as a child and it was more frightening than the original to me. The reason being you still had the scary apes but the mutants were also terrifying, especially when they unmask. This might just be me but the addition of the mutants religious system was also a bit disturbing (in an entertaining way lol). Love this one! I just wish the mutants were more willing to fight and maybe use their mental powers to at least make the apes work for the victory- take longer to storm the holy sanctuary. Instead they were as weak as the rest of the humans on the outside. Even though the mental projection powers ultimately proved to be ineffective against the "primitive ape mind" it would have been interesting to see other powers such as telekinesis. Using their mind powers to bring down bits of wall onto the ape soldiers for example. Hiding in the shadows as they attack. They could even force a few soldiers to fire upon their fellow ape by making them think they were shooting mutants only to see they shot their own kind. That would have had a psychological affect on the apes as well. Oh well. If they had the money and 20 more minutes of film time maybe they could have incorporated some other elements into the ending. Take care!

Leonard Rosenman also scored Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, which has grown on me these past 35 years, as it's personally more emotional than other soundtracks.

I was creeped out looking at the mutants. I found them a bit gross and scary for me as a seven year old.

Loved the review-like Battle, there are parts and characters I can barely stand to watch, just difficult to keep with it (like Brent, the pacing, etc.), but other aspects that can be appreciated for being innovative (for the time it was made)

Loving these reviews, but one note, the picture used when you talk about Franklin J Schaffner is in fact a picture of Karl Malden who accepted on behalf of Shaffner for the film "Patton".

Its great when Taylor destroys the world. That's awesome. And when Brent gets drilled against the wall. That's cool.

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

The sequel came out at a particularly sour time for America (save for the lunar landings). Had the films come out ten years earlier - or later - then they might not have been quite so despairing over the future. Need I add, I find your point of view... intriguing? Well, I guess I do! 🤔

@stephenpenrice1230

5 ай бұрын

But the end of the world doesn’t mean the end of the series, thanks to the time-travel trope.

I've come around to really loving this film. It moves like a rocket, has more intense action, REALLY goes hard on huge story developments that expand the world in interesting ways, and I love how damn nihilistic old school blockbusters could be.

As I said in your other video Beneath is my favourite it's up there with the original I love the matt paintings of the destroyed city (we don't really get Matt paintings these days thanks to CGI) and I love the bleak ending Where everyone dies Another great video sir thanks for sharing your thoughts with us

I always loved this movie. POTA 1, 2, & 5 are my favorite Apes movies.

One thing that goes a long way to understanding these movies, is to understand an element of the movie business prior to Star Wars. While studios would make sequels of popular movies. Sequels tended to make less than the original. The result was Hollywood had an almost universal policy that each sequel would have half the budget of the one before it. Instead of the modern increasing budgets. The Planet of the Apes franchise is one of the places where you can really really see the effects of these ever decreasing budgets. Another good one is the Christopher Reeve Superman movies (especially if you count Supergirl among them.)

Great review, looking forward to your take on Escape. Long live Dr Milo

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

Re-watching and recording it this week. Really excited to talk about it!

James Gregory does a great job. It could have been a great sequel but it does has its good points.

It's my favorite sequel. Escape? Silly. Conquest? Preachy to an awful extreme. Battle? Meh.

@thoughtsonnarrowboatingwit3882

5 ай бұрын

Agreed, almost ‘TV movie like’…

This was the first of the PofTAs series that I saw in the movies. It was frustrating bc I was so young and expected a more straightforward story. I got over it very fast as I saw the original right after that. You are correct, I only really cared about Nova.

these videos are getting me so pumped for Kingdom thank you

@Ape-Nation

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

For all the problems with Beneath, like the first-half being an uneven/lesser revisit of the original, I just love they had the balls to go with that ending. For me, it was chilling to watch that as a kid as I found it more shocking than the ending of the original.

and yet Brents blond hair remains perfectly combed and styled in every scene

Thanks for the posting. My favorite picture in the series

I enjoyed it i still like the first one better tho, i mentioned in a another video that the gameboy games story is from this movie with a few changes like the main character being named Ben instead of Brent great video! Also please talk about the cartoon

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

Planning on doing a review of the animated series later this year!

Well I gotta say this is my favorite next to the first. I love the sometimes horror-ish vibe of it. And I like that it also takes place in the far future. Speaking of…have you noticed that Brent said the ship’s earth time reading was 3955 and in the first film when Taylor looked at the ship’s time reading it said 3978?

I loved General Ursus. He definitely represented American fears of runaway military power during the Vietnam war. His character needed more fleshing out.

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

Yep! Loved the idea of him, just very underdeveloped as a character.

@rumblehat4357

5 ай бұрын

James Gregory was absolutely amazing in the role.

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

​@@rumblehat4357 Indeed he was...but *Orson Welles* could have been _sublime._ (So, come to think of it, could have been Edward G. Robinson as Dr. Zaius in the first one.) 😎

@Earthtime3978

2 ай бұрын

A bad John Wayne with an ape mask is how I always saw Ursus.

I'm with you on this movie. What I like about it most is the addition of the mutants and the bomb, it really did something new there. While the first half was just more of the same. At the same time, the movie is too depressing for my taste. I do agree that it was a ballsy ending, though. My favorite sequels are Conquest (unrated cut) and Escape. Actually I prefer Conquest over the original movie.

Thought the film was a great sequel, a sci-fi mind bender. As a teenager in the 70's we all thought that was our world's destiny.

Think you’ll ever do a video primarily on the lost sequel planet of the men, I just read the script a few weeks ago and it’s super dark and really want a KZreadr to make some sort of video of it. as it’s very interesting and lots of people don’t know about it.

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

I actually thought about that while putting this video together and ended up downloading the script myself to read. Not sure what exactly I will do but I'd love to do a video on it!

@kraemerrseviltwin5768

5 ай бұрын

@@Ape-NationExcellent when can I expect That?

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

@@progessiverockstories not a fan of AI, but a project like this is something I'm considering! It would be a whole production with music/voice acting/artwork, etc, but not 100% sure yet. Won't be for a while though.

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

​@@Ape-Nation Enthusiastic seconding here! That _would_ be something to strive for! 😏 🤩

Those that do not like Beneath the Planet of the Apes are not worth a subscribe.

I think you gave a fair observation of this movie it's interesting to watch but it does drag right after Brent discovers he's actually back on Earth. What I like I'd the tie in to what the apes called the forbidden zone in the first movie where Taylor Landon and Dodge were experiencing strange phenomenons happening all around them for no reason, we know Dr Zaus knew to stay away but even he didn't know the deep secret about it. As for the mutants I was confused at first about them having these mind manipulation and telekinetic powers, but I feel it was the result of the nuclear fallout that mutated them. And finally about the mutants (spoiler alert) in the final movie battle for the Planet of the Apes the human Holocaust Survivors who didn't go to war with the Apes decide that the alpha omega bomb should be used as a weapon of peace,and that show their own paradox taking place due to the Cornelius and Zera timeline.

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

The telekinetic warfare was especially intriguing, where you can _hurt_ someone without actually _harming_ them physically - a formidable and yet "civilized" weapon. Unfortunately, for all their prating of "peace", they seem ready enough to use them on outsiders and don't seem to care much about boosting the victims' mental recovery process. 🤨

I love this movie for two thing: the wrecked ship in the beginning and the nuclear NYC scenes. That’s it. The story is hokey,but in a fun way. Now I’m gonna go watch it again while I play with my NuMego Taylor, Brent, and Mutant 😂😂

Before CGI is where you find the real filmmakers. Now, with a big budget, everything is possible. 🌟 As I see the wars that didn’t stop to happen in our planet, even with atomic weapons that can destroy our civilization, Planet of the Apes is growing as a dark prophecy of our future. Eerie as when I saw these films for the first time in a theater, back in the late 60s and early 70s🌟✌️

Brilliant Film With Short-Comings. But ultimately really interesting and I could see a serialized television series (adult) and there's much more in the way of possibilities.

I’m loving this channel! I just came across it by accident today. Yes this is an uneven and frustrating sequel. 3/5. I love your reviews but I would say either get rid of the background music or make it quieter. I don’t have anything against the music as I’m a rock music fan but I find it distracting at times and I’d rather just hear what you have to say 👍🏻👊🏻

@Ape-Nation

4 ай бұрын

I actually adjusted the volume after this one for my Escape review and all future videos, appreciate the feedback!

@lennoxmate4064

4 ай бұрын

@@Ape-Nation keep up the good work! I’m looking forward to the reviews on the rest of the series. I just watched your escape review 👍🏻👊🏻

I loved this movie! I often wonder if Roddy McDowell did Cornelius voice in looping the movie, since Cornelius sounds like McDowell.

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

It would almost seem so, wouldn't it? I never missed McDowall at all! 😳

Why was Paul Frees chosen for the ending narration?

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

No idea, but I think his voice works well and is perfectly haunting.

At 3:13 is a picture of actor Karl Malden, not the director you stated.

@bobacrey1068

5 ай бұрын

The Apes of San Francisco 🦍

@tedharrington5432

5 ай бұрын

Glad I am not the only one who noticed that.

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

I got some of my photos mixed up in my editing folder, but have it updated now for the future. That photo is of him accepting the Oscar for Franklin J Schaffner for Patton, though, so I can live with it.

@GR-jw7ns

5 ай бұрын

I was about to say the same thing. Malden’s nose is unmistakable!

Best of all the ape films, I always think of this film out of the series, the buried new york city, the strange mutants and the fascinating doomsday bomb , excellent script and directing👍👍👍

I remember hating this as a kid too, but as a teenager I came to appreciate it. My take is that the first half of the movie is TRASH, just a cheap rehash of the events in the first film... and then at the end of the second act it just goes completely off the rails in a wonderfully bonkers way.

I hope Kingdom stays with the main theme of all the films in this franchise: The huberous of humanity and its consequences

I love this Ape movie the best out of all the rest. I just rewatched it a couple of nights ago and took out the Warner Books novelization of the film to read and am half way through it. It's almost as fun as the film. Dr. Zaius comes across as a bit more conflicted and hence more sympathetic but unfortunately there are no stills from the film included.

These are the GOAT movies! The ones being made today are way too much cgi & and other technology

@Ape-Nation

Ай бұрын

Agree to disagree! The CGI in the new movies is some of the best vfx ever put on screen.

It's funny how the sequel even acknowledges the retread beginning when Taylor meets Brent and asks how he got there. Brent replies: :"Same way as you."

Saw it in the early 80s and loved it, I need to see it again

You’ve summed up all my points perfectly

This review made me think of a theory for Kingdom Of The Planet Of The Apes but i think it's highly unlikely, maybe the humans who retained their intelligence have a nuclear warhead and some humans in that society are against it. Also i forget to mention before that if the director still decides to do the idea of the astronauts appearing in a Planet with apes i think they can do it if they made a prequel and set it in a certain time when they can still be alive, also I'm curious to see if they do a tv show prequel about what happened before a million years ago, for instance how did the U.S. Navy get infected by the virus while they were at sea maybe one of the crew members off shore caught and spread it when they got back on the ship i probably answered my own question but still i would like to see something like this idea i mentioned if they do a tv show Update: now the question for Kingdom Of The Planet Of The Apes is can humans and apes coexist?

This actually my favourite ape movie of them all 🤔🤷‍♂️🙌

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

I'm glad you love it!!

Cutting the budget gave the film a TV Movie of the week feel and Ted Post being a TV Director mostly. It’s shows. But I liked it.

Three things that I really liked about this movie are: (1) Ted Post is, in my opinion, The King Director of Sequels, to which I liked 2 if his Sequels better than The Originals (Magnum Force, the Dirty Harry Sequel & this movie); (2) having lived in East New York Brooklyn at the time this movie was released, I knew very well The Manhattan Landmarks (New York Public Library, St. Patrick's Cathedral & Obvious Subway System), showing, if it wasn't evident by The Statue Of Liberty in the first movie, that this is New York in The Future; and (3) in addition to all of the actors that you mentioned (Maurice Evans, James Gregory, Et. Al.), there are 3 other actors in this movie that I know from others & TV Shows, namely Tomas Gomez, Jeff Corey, Don Colley - there are others also). Tomas Gomez was mainly A 1940s Character Actor, from his first role, as A Nazi Spy in Sherlock Holmes & The Voice Of Terror, to his brief role as Colonel JR Andrews in Abbott & Costello Mystery/Comedy Who Done It? to probably his Best Known Role, as Curly in Key Largo (in this movie, he is The Priest or Religion Ape). Jeff Corey was also A Character Actor, who I believe was Blacklisted during The Infamous Senator Joseph McCarthy days. Although he usually had A Moustache, in this movie, it took me a bit to recognize him, because he is Clean Shaved in this movie. Don Colley (I believe that his middle name was Ford?) had many roles/A Character Actor, as were the others. I guess I remember him best as The Voodoo Witch Doctor in the first 2 Episodes of Season 3 of Starsky & Hutch Murder On Playboy Island/Voodoo Island, as Papa Theodore, usually in Stealing His Scenes, not only from Starsky (Paul Michael Glaser) & Hutch (David Soul), but, also from Veteran Actors, such as Craig Stevens, Joan Collins, Samantha Eggar & Roscoe Kee Brown, among others. This helps to make it one of my favorite episodes of S&H (likely my favorite that's not The Pilot). Let me know what you think. PS. I believe that it's Paul Frees Voice at the end of the movie. PPS. I like the way it was split into 2 part type movie, however, I agree with you that too much time is wasted on the Jungle Side & I think that less time was able to be spent on the Manhattan Dystopian World Side - as I am sure that you will agree, a huge part was likely due to Charlton Heston not really wanting to be in the movie for long, but, I would have liked to have seen A More Prolonged Slower Intro to Them Discovering That It's A Future Manhattan.

Much the same I always skipped this one because as a kid it seemed weird to me at the time. I loved the original and Escape was one of my other favorites, so this one was skipped. I definitely need to give it a watch again.

One thing I will say is I completely buy Taylor giving Zaius the nuclear middle finger in the final act

You put up Karl Malden holding his Oscar rather than the director that dropped out.Franklin James Schaffner Apart from that, loved the vid and loving the rest. Love these movies and the series

When I first came upon the Ape Franchise in the 90's, it was of course during one of its many marathons. I always enjoyed Beneath the most and not just because I share the main character's (last) name, Brent. His full name is Maj. John C. Brent. This review calls him bland but sometimes an everyman is what the audience needs when traveling through fantastic places. Taylor nuking the whole planet was indeed a ballsy ending but good old time travel fixed that!

Exelente video ❤❤❤

This movie just reminds me of when MST3K had several episodes referencing Planet of the Apes starting in season 8. In the episode "The Deadly Mantis", Bobo and Peanut help their neighbors active their thermonuclear device without knowing what it does. Mike accidentally helps them and the planet gets blown up. "I felt a great disturbance. As if a million monkeys cried out and were silenced. Good one, Mike!"

It's not a popular take, but this is my favorite one. Brent figures out he's on Earth quickly compared to Taylor. The nihilism is at an all time high. Everyone dies and it's rated "G".

@A_YouTube_Commenter

4 ай бұрын

And mutants vs. the apes. Sometimes there isn't a "good guy" in war.

I have a soft spot for Beneath because it was the first apes movie I saw when CBS first aired them in the early 70s. I was a kid and thought it was cool. I thought Brent’s death was particularly brutal. Speaking of which Linda Harrison was quoted a few years ago saying James Franciscus took it way too seriously.

Of all the sequels this is my favorite. Only thing that bothered me was that Queensboro Plaza subways station is 3 stories above ground and QUEENS PLAZA station (adjoining) is the underground one. It's almost like one of the writers grew up in NYC moved to LA and couldn't remember the exact name of the station. Other than that - no complaints about this film. There is a POTA book that came out a few years ago they has a bunch of stories set around the first two movies that does give some back story to the mutants and how they created their masks etc.

@Ape-Nation

5 ай бұрын

As someone with a family full of New Yorkers, I love this critique lol.

@McRaeAZ

5 ай бұрын

@@Ape-Nation 😆😆😆

@goldenager59

5 ай бұрын

Amusingly enough, Queensboro Plaza station is also the home of the three-dollar gyro in _Seinfeld!_ 😄

@Sinrev

5 ай бұрын

I have always noted this as well, HOWEVER... this is after a nuclear war... and everything else seems to be below ground as well... Radio City, NY Public Library, etc. So I would just chalk it up to the Earth having swallowed it all up... remember.... this is BENEATH the Planet of the Apes...

I saw the movie when I was young--probably on TV when it first appeared. I rewatched it a few years ago and agree with you. The best parts are the parts about the mutants and their worship of the bomb. This was a very fitting criticism in the late 1960s. But the fight between Taylor and Brent didn't make much sense, and so it is worth watching at least once as an adult. The original series tended to deteriorate in quality as sequels normally do because of budgetary issues and problems with the stories. Unfortunately, Hollywood just doesn't respect its audience especially when Sci Fi films are concerned.

Luv this movie. The bomb chamber parts are hokey now, but scary at the time.

In the book, Brent witnesses children playing ' Ring Around the Rosy' with different words. 'Ring around the rosy, a pocket full of positrons. Fission , fission, we all fall down. And yes, this movie was making a bold statement during that period.