Benchmade Bugout VS Spyderco Para 3 Lightweight
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A battle that we've all been waiting for!
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I solved the issue by getting both
@daesfu
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@marksantostefano1637
3 жыл бұрын
I work In a large outdoor store in The knife department; we have both of these and I really enjoy handling them and they’re both fine knives. But the one I keep returning to is the Spyderco...Tell me if you’re not mix are much better and that’s what makes the difference. For me anyway.
@TheBootyWrangler
Жыл бұрын
Lemme guess, you also purchased a hogue deka magnacut gen2 when they released
Own both, love both. EDC perfection . Also the Para 3 is a thing of beauty man!
Own both, carry the P3LW.
I own both. I carry the P3LW
@benjamincarter6095
4 жыл бұрын
I second that.
@jeremysuggs8345
3 жыл бұрын
3rd!
@bermylife
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@acr4809
3 жыл бұрын
Same. The PM3 is just more comfortable in the hand and I like the blade geometry much better. Plus you get a finger choil for fine work. BD1N is a perfectly fine steel. Honestly I haven't been impressed by Benchmades QC as of late. Had a couple stinkers from them. In Oregon so maybe they just send all the good ones out of state!
“If you’re only going to buy one.....” 😂
@Redant751
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, only buy one ( not gonna happen) I do like the para 3 better the scale flex on the bug out bothers me a bit.
@Paa375
3 жыл бұрын
I want that answer too
Nitrogen; it’s what blades crave. 🤣
@sharpsvilleBill
5 жыл бұрын
blades of grass DEMAND Nitrogen
Probably the best comparison/ head to head video I've watched. Well done!!!
appreciate you addressed the para 3 uni-liner; very fair comparison👍
thank you so much for the review you help me decide to buy both
Great video brother!! Buy them both!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Nice comparison. I’m a much bigger fan of the Sage 5 than the Para 3, and I expect to like the Sage 5 LW more than either of these myself. I’m not sure a P3 with upgraded steel should score much better, but you’re the expert. I’m more impressed by blade geometry than steel, and they’ll keep that the same on the P3 regardless of the steel. Personally I wish they would have thinned the P3 blade for this version, but that would have shocked me had they done it.
Great comparison. Have a Para 3 LW on order and look forward to trying it personally. I do have reservations about the stop pin -- guess we'll all find out. I would say I much prefer a Spydiehole to thumb studs for deployment, especially when wearing gloves. But I agree with your overall assessment. Bugout is one sweet EDC. I spent somewhat-silly $ on a carbon fiber-scaled version of the Bugout from Roguebladeworks, and my only comparable EDC to that knife is the TRM Neutron.
Good comparison, I agree.
Thank you for this video. I am interested in the para 3lw after getting kind of bored with my bugouts. The bugout is a good knife and affordable under benchmade standards. Like many, after a few weeks, the itch to get a new knife kicks in. It is very welcomed for spyderco to release that type of lock with that handle material. I am sure I will love the para 3lw too. I have a bias against spyderco because the spydey hole duck bill shape blades do not look great to me, and I am digging the very basic boring look of the bugout. The difference between the two do not seem different enough to deter me from buying either one. Thanks again for pointing out the little differences. *edit for auto correct problems.
Great comparison video, thank you. I'm in the market for an EDC and haven't carried a serious knife since my Old Timer. I would like to see an additional category that combines the warranty and manufactures reputation for customer service. In this instance, it could be the deciding factor. Watched the whole thing!
Love this head-to-head format to discuss pros and cons of knives and an eventual. Both have great designs and features that make them both good. I’m calling it a draw, take your pick , can’t lose on either.
Wow. I just got the para 3. Ordered a bugout also. Can't believe it's going to be lighter. PS. The para 3 looks awesome to me! It's wide but I love that far looking blade. Looks meaner.
I own both, and carry the PM3 LW everyday. I am a fan of the wire clip Spyderco uses. To me the wire clip is easier on my pockets, and less damaging to my leather seats if I rub against them. I have several Benchmade knives in my collection, but I have never liked thumb studs on my EDC.
@chrislowery1980
6 ай бұрын
I’m always catching my clips on the side bolsters. Lefty
Absolutely love my bugout. Haven't carried any of my Spydercos since I got it a few weeks ago.
Great review don’t have the para 3 but will soon but love my bugout but my omega spring is broke and did within a month but think it had a issue from the factory bc it was gritty and at times even hard to pull back on my axis lock but agree most the time the omega springs are solid just wish Benchmade would sake then instead of making you send in the knife.
Cool comparison....Good stuff....
Great comparison. I'm in total agreement with your conclusion, both are solid designs that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend. I wonder if the Bugout has 20% better cutting performance based on the geometry? I would carry either and both have their pros and cons. Looking forward to the inevitable alternative versions of both. A Bugout a la Super Freek would be a fantastic piece.
@Gaston-Monescu
5 жыл бұрын
GPKNIVES The lightweight Sage 5 may be a better Bugout competitor for cutting performance. I like your Super Freek idea.
@ryanlohrenz190
5 жыл бұрын
The bugout probably has 20% more cutting edge for the same handle. And 100% better warranty!
Why do so many people not like the way the Para 3 looks? I don't get it. I love the way it looks, in fact I prefer it to the PM2. I also prefer it to the Bugout, I think it has more character.
@adrianotero7963
5 жыл бұрын
Beauty follows function.....
@TheGamerGuy1981
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the bugout is so vanilla looking.
@RooiRus
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGamerGuy1981, I totally agree. The Para 3 is way more durable, has a better lock and aesthetically the one is not better looking than the other....
@RooiRus
4 жыл бұрын
The Para 3 is way more functional and durable...
@RooiRus
4 жыл бұрын
No fan of the timid little omega springs.... Para 3 for me!!!
Great comparison. Some what new to the channel and enjoying your content. My para 3 light weight is on its way so I cant make a comparison I do have a bugout and I love it however the scales seem to feel like its bending sometimes when using and I've seen others say the same and I dont feel its going to break or anything but it does just feel some what unnatural. I do still love the knife though
I love both of these knives. I have to start there because I have had issues all be it small issues but issues not the less with both. My bugout chipped (fairly small chip) while popping a single zip tie. And the BD1n rolled when I was shaving off some peeling paint from siding (I’m a paint supervisor that inspects and this is common use for my knives) I don’t consider either of these edc tasks to be hard use and both failed me. Still completely usable so not catastrophic failure but failure none the less.
I feel different on this one I like the pm3 more and like how the pm3 looks more than the bugout. Thumbs up though Mr slicey.
I love the Bugout.. the omega spring did break on me though. I sent it in to lifesharp and the issue was remedied albeit a 4 week turnaround.
I dont like how the bugout has a flat spot when closed on the blade tang between the handle and tand
@fawkesandhound
5 жыл бұрын
hootiewho2 so common on BM but I don’t like it either.
Get both!!!
I have both, but only 1 Para3 Lightweight and 2 Bugouts. Before the Para3 was released, I bough several linerless FRN knives and they have held up in use. To me, I consider the Spyderco Native 5 a strong contender in this small lightweight market, though deep carry clips are aftermarket. Still, the Native 5 has the largest number of options in build materials.
Time 15:05 " I was out wacking it on a tree for a while" Hilarious !!!
One category that would have been interesting to discuss is that the Bugout is much more customizable with all of the different scales for it than the Para 3 but that the Para 3 will probably come in a bunch of steels at some point.
this is a good one i love em both my lightweight comes on monday which we all know bugout has proven itself need to give the lightweight a chance lot of bashing thanks Brian
I own alot of Spyderco and Benchmade. I bought a Bugout as my main carry knife. The reason is simple, it's slim profile and light weight. I have had a Benchmade 530 for 10 years and that thing kept finding its way into my pocket because it's just so light and slim. The Bugout is like an improved version of the 530.
I have had Omega spring issues a couple times and even if I didn't, I like the compression lock better. Also in my opinion, Spyderco did the compression lock on the best on the Para 3.
Great video. I’m still torn but now I have more information. Thanks bud.
@koga8100
3 жыл бұрын
para 3 lw all the damm way buy it, you won't be disappointedd
@AlphaConde-qy7vi
Жыл бұрын
Chaparral LW is the real contender.
Still hoping for a larger bugout in some more color options or Benchmades custom shop.
great video
I think the knife pivot hex bit into the FRN is a bigger issue than a liner for lock. Also they cheap looking spacers. Still they hv 30% wiggle room to improve. Good VS Brian!👍🏻
Caught that Idiocracy reference and I spit my drink through my nose!😂🤣😅
Really thoughtful comparison Bryan. The Bugout May have been Spyderco’s target with the P3LW, but ultimately they might have just killed the Delica. Interesting that the Sage 5 LW will still have S30V steel. Very curious as to what the pricing on it will be. Thanks for the video!
Good review...I think I would like both...lol. But that thin bug out blade leans me that way.
Have a Sage 5 - It is fantastic. But I tried to do some whittling. The leaf shaped blade was a failure. This video is right on time, as I prepare to hit buy on a bugout.
@amunderdog
5 жыл бұрын
@Semper Skeptical - It was awkward. It got the task done. Width of the blade seemed to be an issue. Will try the test again with Presidio II
I will probably eventually pick up a Para 3 lw, but I;m just not in any hurry. I have 2 of the G10 versions, both in upgraded steels, and I just don't have a burning need to go lw. In general, I prefer g10 over the frn, but I do appreciate the wire clip and the moved lanyard hole. About time they actually listened to their customers. I haven't had my Bugout all that long, but since I got it, it's been in my pocket damn near constantly. In my opinion, it wins hands down over the Para 3 in both carry and slicing. I can't compare to the Para3 lw since I don't have one, but compared to the g10 versions, it wins hands down, and weight has nothing to do with that for me. Unless I'm wearing gym shorts, which is almost never, weight is not an issue for me, as long as it isn't a total brick. I'm a jeans type of guy. The cutting performance is far more important to me than weight, and as far as in the pocket goes, I don't feel the difference between a 2 ounce knife and a 5 ounce knife. In hand, I actually prefer a little more weight, but it still isn't a deciding factor for me either way.
For those who said their omega springs broke, well my 940-2 omega spring broke yesterday after owning the knife for 18 months. Since I live in Canada, sending it back to Benchmade is out of the question, so I took out my tools and a package of stainless steel memory wire and made my own. Took around an hour but I'm confident the next time it will be much less time. Works great and if any of my other BM's break, I'll be able to fix them. As far as the two knives mentioned in the vid, I have a Bugout and a regular Para 3. I have no desire for the lightweight version as of yet. I just watched a video by a youtuber named "Zach's Stuff" beating the blazes out of the Bugout and it stood up to all the abuse with just some scratches. If you watch that it may very well change your mind thinking how strong the Bugout actually is.
@kenny123113
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know for sure, but I think if you reach out to Benchmade support and explain to them your situation, they might send you some replacement springs. Worth a shot!
Can’t wait for the other new Spyderco‘ stop come out. I don’t have a Sage model yet but I plan on getting the new lightweight model!
I am pretty new to the knife world and I considered getting both of these knifes but I ended up getting the Para 3 LW. I like both and respect everyone's opinion but I personally like the Spyderco a lil better. Great vid!
@Nordraw
4 жыл бұрын
get both dude. You know you will
@KT-cz7rm
4 жыл бұрын
Me to. P3 lightweight is my favorite knife. I only have the bugout mini now though. I ordered a full size. We'll see. I really love Spyderco blade shape and para 3 seems more solid
Great Battle. I personally think they are a tie. It comes down to personal preference. I have both and I agree with all your points except quality. My first Bugout I returned to REI because the Axis lock was gritty and would really stick at times. I probably could have spent time fixing it but why should I? It should be right from the start until you use it. My second one is better by the centering is slightly off. The QC issues Benchmade has had still show up at times. I have never has a QC issue with any Spyderco. But I agree with all your other categories. Now the we are heading into warm weather, it will be a coin flip as to which one I carry when wearing basketball type shorts. So far I like both. But the as a lefty, the Bugout is a little more friendly. Spyderco please add the button compression lock to the PM3 LW! Thanks for your analysis of both these great blades.
I have both and switch off which one I carry. I do think the Bugout has a little better action with the blade lock it has. More fun to fidget with. I wouldn't part with either.
Noice review thanks dude I don't really like eather knife
I think they both look pretty good clipped on to that pair of cutoff jean shorts you got there.
Thank you for the video. Now I know that I not necessarily need the P3.
The stop pin holes on the para3 is fine, most cold steels doesn't use any liners, so just plastic or g10 (or aluminum) holding the stop pins on both sides and these are considered hard use folders, people beat the holy crap outta 'em with no pin failures. My bugout has got fierce competition for my summer edc, I've got a para3 on the way and it's already lost pocket time to the Spyderco Ikuchi, plus the steel will mini intrigue and boker urban trapper gentleman (longer but even lighter than the bugout) are in the mix.
I own both as well. I like them both. I think I prefer the Bugout for food prep type cutting. Bugout is probably the win for me based on the blade alone. Great video. Very unbiased.
For anyone who is tempted by the Bugout but has a doubt about the handle, OR just wants something a touch nicer, check out the BM Pardue 530 knives. These are sorta the ancestor of the Bugout. Handles are G10 and hence rigid. Super slim in pocket; super lw; really worth a look. Some versions discontinued. so may be hard to get. Pricing runs anywhere from about $100 to $150...! I have no skin in the game except that I have two and love them!
@Pharto_Stinkus
3 жыл бұрын
I have a first run Mel Pardue that still makes my EDC rotation occasionally. I've always thought of the Bugout as the successor to the Pardue!
Nice
I've got the Bugout already and considered the Para 3, but not for now. I've got the PM 2 and love that. The Para 3 is just a little short annd fat for me. I'm sure it will be a big winner for Spyderco.
Crushed it! Here’s the thing about FRN... it’s really strong. Like high end aluminum strong. So many people called this out, including myself, and you addressed it perfectly. A lot of people fail to realize that these knives get tested to the absolute failure point and it represents beyond normal use tolerances. Awesome job 👌🏻
I prefer the Para 3 🔪 due to the Spyderco thumb ramp & jimping.
Nice review. Hard to argue with anything you said. Am I the only one wondering about something? Given all the brouhaha, (repeated here), with the original P3's pocket clip and lanyard hole, anyone else think we're looking at a Spyderco CQI test run of the next gen, P3? Combine those 2, with thinner blade stock, reduced spydie hole diameter/blade height and could this be the P3V2 G10, CF, etc.?
Yep
Ive got both a bugout and the para 3 lw in spy27 and I have to say that that version of the para 3 lw is in fact a bugout killer ..
@williamcorbin774
7 ай бұрын
Had a bugout, didn't do nothing for me have para 3 g10 cru-wear, have two para 3 lightweight one in spy 27. One in cts-xhp love them all. And think it's cooler looking than bugout
The "Broken Omega Spring" is like the Unicorn, everybody has heard of it but nobody I know has ever seen one.
I wish BM would make the AXIS lock with the linear spring (like the Anthem) instead of the omega springs.
I own both, I carry them both!
What do you think of a dragonfly 3 that would be 40% larger with a compression lock?
@bp-hx9ts
5 жыл бұрын
Joe Versace kinda pointless
@NickWeissMusic
4 жыл бұрын
It would be a Delica with a compression lock then... and therefore pretty much the Para 3....
That’s what blades crave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Love my bugout but deamn those omega springs make me hate it.. I own both a mini griptilian and bougout and on my mini grip I cant brake the omega springs however on my Bugout I changed both omega springs 6 times and they just keep braking within 2 weeks of carrying so I just gave up on that knife... Dont get me wrong bugout is my perfect edc, I love the deamn thing but I cant be botherd anymore with omega springs
As of 9/15/20 the Bugout is $114 on amazon
Honestly kinda prefer the bugout the para 3 not having liners and only one washer bugs me the washer thing less so but still not crazy about it
I think you have to factor in the life sharp service, lifetime warranty. Into overall value
@brokcen2748
3 жыл бұрын
Spyderco has a good warranty too now yes benchmade is better but for the butterfly tax i think it evens out.
@koga8100
3 жыл бұрын
they have such a good warranty because they NEED IT
@Paa375
3 жыл бұрын
@@koga8100 I would like to get a bugout why so bad?
@koga8100
3 жыл бұрын
@@Paa375 oh this was before I had a benchmade, they are sick and they are smooth get one
Question......is the detent different in the ightweight as opposed to the original Para3? Feels different but can't tell for sure.
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem different between my two.
I love the comment about blades craving nitrogen! lol
It’s funny that in so many of these comparisons, the elephant in the room is ignored. I'm talking about the blade opening mechanism. When that factor is not even mentioned, it kind of makes the whole thing seem foolish. For me, the Spyderhole just works much better than a thumbstud. Others may disagree, but all opening methods are not created equal, and that is definitely something that needs to be mentioned and discussed.
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
Uhm... There's a whole section about that in the video...
The idiocracy reference 👏🏻
Anybody else waiting on Blade HQ to ship out the PM2 preorder?
Just dropped $122 for the Para 3 LW run in CPM-M4.
Thanks for the comparison with any knife the absolute most important thing is the blade 90 % the last 10 % is just fluff 2 great knives I am sure they both cut well both company's have that reputation I wonder how many people are actually buying knives to cut things rather than a play toy . want great ergonomics remove the pocketclip add a lanyard and carry only in your watch / knife pocket 😉😉😉😉😉😉🤔
What are your thoughts on the compression lock being weak PM the para 3 lw? I've heard people say it's not good for baring down since pressure is going into FRN on one side and steel on the other?
@Pharto_Stinkus
3 жыл бұрын
He did address this, extensively, in the video.
Thanks for not modeling those sweet daisy dukes 😂
Para 3 LW all the way. Didn’t care didn’t care for the Bugout, feel flimsy and cheap
@leetnessgaming9751
2 жыл бұрын
I went today and felt the bugout and I thought the same exact thing I had a micro spyderco and loved it. I do think the bugout looks better and feels really cheap for the price. I haven’t had a chance to feel the para 2 Lw yet tho to be fair.
Weird confession: on paper the bugout seems way better, but there’s something about the P3 that makes me think I’d carry and use it more BECAUSE it is a lower quality lower cost....beater...kind of tool. I guess that’s just a function of wallet size :)
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's weird. I could definitely see people applying that logic.
@spydercoslacker7466
3 жыл бұрын
Lower quality 😂
How does the para 3 lightweight compare to the sage 5?
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
It's lighter? There's a Sage 5 LW on the way.
How abt bugout vs para 2?
I’ve been carrying a Bugout for a while, and I love it. Thinking about picking up a Para 3, just for the compression lock. I think all Spyderco knives are ugly as hell, but I want to try out the compression lock
I was gonna get a bugout but bailed because there was no liners and I heard people saying it’s able to bend
@htownsfinest2606
2 жыл бұрын
Just look up durability tests on the bugout, you’ll find it’s not easily broken
I’m interested to see which I like better. I’m guessing it will be the bugout but i guess I’ll see. Do you think you are going to do a delica vs para3lw? I don’t remember if you have a delica
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
I don't. I may do the comparison at some point if one passes through my hands, but I can already tell you I'd pick the Para 3LW. The Delica has become ridiculously overpriced.
@Pharto_Stinkus
3 жыл бұрын
@@SliceyDicey I was sure the P3LW was going to kill the Delica, but Spyderco is as dedicated to it as they've ever been, releasing several Delica sprints since the P3LW came out.
Have you ever looked at the Kizer Aileon ? may be the best cheapest Titanium Knife at least in Europe, here you get it for 80 Euros... with is extremly cheap for a Knife with Titanium and SV35.
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
Not very common over here.
The Spyderco, of course.
Except for my dislike of FRN, I'd get both of these. Still might get a Bugout with micarta scales... Both are winners for sure.
Funny how differently knives are priced in different countries. The Benchmade Bugout Mini runs $195.99 CAD...this full-zied version about $220.99 CAD ....Spyderco Para 3 LW $155.99....Gues Spyderco likes CDN's more than Benchmade :)) Both great for EDC...right size/weight...."..forget you're carfrying it" ..best size.
I was planing to get one of them but.. Like handle and lock of para like blade and weight of bugout.. Bogout just little too high price for what you get.. Para need just something more at least i feel like it.. For now wont get anything and i wait if nice sprint run comes from para.. Both are close but just something missing.. But but brown black bugout do look so fucking good... Might bite the bullet sooner or later.
Can you do a battle to the death between the Bugout, Para 3 LW, and Civivi McKenna please?
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
The McKenna is much smaller. Not really sure I'd put it in the same category.
@Pmike404
5 жыл бұрын
Slicey Dicey ya I didn’t really think about the size difference lol. I saw the size online but just recently got to play with a McKenna it is super tiny.
When. It comes out you're gonna have to do a comparison with the next isham civivi that went up on knife news yesterday. It's a 2.9in blade but the whole thing is under 2oz
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Can't wait for that one!
Good review.. If money is a issue.. Then do your homework.. If it isn't.. Why not own both? Spyderco/ Benchmade.. they are in competition.. I'm not..I love them both!
If there was a fidget factor category , which would you pick ?
@SliceyDicey
5 жыл бұрын
Coin flip. Depends on my mood.
being under 3 inches opens up the para3 to more counties in CA, otherwise both look amazing
@darylnd
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not aware of any blade length limits in CA, other than for automatics (must be less than 2", per state law). Can you clarify?
This guys knows what the f he’s talking about
Bugout turned me of Benchmade, but specifically the axis-lock.....
15 mins 'I was out wacking in a tree with it'