"I dont want to be forced to accept something I want to force society to reject" Ben Shapiro in a nutshell.

@johnmcgee636

Жыл бұрын

sounds fine to me.....John Mc Gee

@1MarkKeller

Жыл бұрын

Ben forgets that laws work for both sides.

@wet-read

Жыл бұрын

Lots of conservatives and religious people, actually.

@jasonpeek8244

Жыл бұрын

@@mikescott4195 Indeed. I always envisioned that Venn diagram as a perfect circle. In my mind those two terms are synonymous.

@nathanedison8692

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonpeek8244 Not quite a perfect circle, but close enough to make you think you're seeing double 😂.

We at the gay council inner circle have decided that Ben Shapiro will be marrying Steven Crowder and Crowder won’t be doing any more drag because we’ve decided he is to be the butch top in the relationship and Ben Shapiro is the power bottom. Sorry Crowder.

@BambiTrout

Жыл бұрын

Quick note: in the addendum to that meeting, it was decided that Jimmy Dore would be the voyeur hiding in the closet, and Tim Pool is in charge of aftercare.

@sayyestofairness4266

Жыл бұрын

I guarantee you that stupid child indoctrination investment is gonna fail after a month. That preschool show starring that talentless, unfunny Adam Sandler henchman Rob Schneider is gonna last 5 episodes before it's cancelled, and the whole DW Kids initiative will shut down after just a month.

@OzinRoseCity

Жыл бұрын

😆

@kurthagardorn

Жыл бұрын

Your ruling is just, fair and wise.

@BlankManj5

Жыл бұрын

Ben is going to love crowder’s chowder.

Reminder: Ben Shapiro once said any Jewish American who voted for President Obama aren't truly Jewish & yet he got very little backlash for that.

@elephantman2112

Жыл бұрын

I think I remember Andrew Neill drilling him on that during their interview... "You call liberal jews Jews In Name Only... JINOs you call them.".

@johnmcgee636

Жыл бұрын

He is an Orthodox Jew....if you notice the black kippah on the back of his head

@MovieEggman

Жыл бұрын

Catholic Conservatives basically did the same exact thing with Catholic Americans who voted for Joe Biden in 2020.

@unduloid

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmcgee636 Wearing silly headgear doesn't give you any authority, be it a kippah, a mitre or whatever else.

@olivervision

Жыл бұрын

Freedom doesn't care about your facts or your feelings.

Nobody is obligating people to have same sex marriage.

@russellward4624

Жыл бұрын

Conservatives are all narcissists.

@cyrollan

Жыл бұрын

Ben is so out of the loop. Complete ignorance, but spoken at a rapid rate so that folks think he's intelligent.

@extrastout1741

Жыл бұрын

Exactly I always say this

@naggash5348

Жыл бұрын

When did he say anyone was forced into same sex marriage ?

@sophiepooks2174

Жыл бұрын

@@cyrollan At least Porky Pig was entertaining as a child.

To get in the Hanukkah spirit, let's imagine a Maccabee finding himself in the modern day. He would naturally assume that Sam is a properly bearded faithful Jew, while Ben Shapiro is a smooth-cheeked Hellenist.

@Shlomo8561

Жыл бұрын

Sam the Chad Hebrew vs Binyamin Jalapeño the Veergeen Chipmunk-Sounding Teen

@RabbiJoeInJerusalem

Жыл бұрын

As the prophecy foretold! "But these wokesters won't acknowledge that virginity is a good thing on Hanukkah, reserved for the finest olive oil!"

@8eight104

Жыл бұрын

Someone make this a cartoon.

Meanwhile over in Russia, a nation greatly admired by many American conservatives because of its stance on "cultural issues". a new law has just been passed making it a criminal offense to portray homosexuality in a favorable light in books, films, or public discussion. The vote in the Duma, the Russian parliament, was 379-0.

@sprig5173

Жыл бұрын

That's the kind of democracy magats like. 379 yesmen.

@SunRa-

Жыл бұрын

Based

@kurisu7885

Жыл бұрын

Likely all at gunpoint.

@andu1854

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and if you vote Nyet, you end up accidentally falling out of a window… so glad Putin cares so much for his people (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha)

@1MarkKeller

Жыл бұрын

Time for Conservatives/Republicans to pack up and REXIT it to Russia

I'm imagining Ben showing up to his classes in middle school, in a suit he doesn't need to wear. The teacher sighing audibly every time he raises his hand to remind them of the homework. Getting indignant when they phone it in and put on Bill Nye the Science Guy. Telling on anyone that gets a boyfriend or girlfriend lol. Is this your hero?!

@jessicatymczak5852

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it

@BlackCover95

Жыл бұрын

A guy like Ben probably went to an all-boys school. Coed wouldn’t be very _tsnius_ .

@yokaidigital3033

Жыл бұрын

I recently experienced a class where I teach graphic design and I had this smart ass try to tell me the instructor I’m wrong the hilarious part of it is midway through his rambling he realizes he’s wrong and gets super embarrassed look on his face. I only share that cause I could see Ben do that

@zemoxian

Жыл бұрын

@@yokaidigital3033You can imagine BS realizing he’s wrong? And admitting it? You truly do have an artist’s imagination.

@maximilianvs8430

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

Reich wing: I'm not racist, it's a religious group not a race Also Reich wing: 'Jewish last names'

@karenbooth9978

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, democrats are the racists and owned slaves and are also the fascists. Nice try liar

“ I’m in a hateful book club, and the book club’s rules should be imposed on those not in the book club” - Ben Shapiro

@Terra_Lopez

Жыл бұрын

That's a good analogy.

@karenbooth9978

Жыл бұрын

Aww, he hurt you little soy feewings call the police.

@modernpeasants7

Жыл бұрын

@@karenbooth9978 I don’t like theocracies. Sorry

@jennifer60515

Жыл бұрын

@@karenbooth9978 Sounds like your mother gave you the correct name for sure, Karen. Shapiro is a clown, he’s not hurting anyone’s feelings.

@karenbooth9978

Жыл бұрын

Anytime any place boy

I can never get enough of Ben Shapiro being torn to shreds. Also, I can never tell when watching Ben Shapiro if the video of him speaking is in real time and he really speaks that way, or if's being played at double speed.

@LinkRocks

Жыл бұрын

He's doing the Gish gallop so it's real speed.

@Terra_Lopez

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe he should edit his videos so they play at 0.75x speed.

@nimblebimble

Жыл бұрын

My podcasts are set to 1.3 playback by default. Forgetting this, I genuinely thought I was going insane the few times I’ve decided to peruse through his show.

@oldishandwoke-ish1181

Жыл бұрын

😂

@rozasa1304

Жыл бұрын

He speaks so fast so it's easier to gloss over his bullshit, or his flawed logic, or his broken arguments

I agree with Sam. If you operate a religious establishment such as a church - and I say this as a gay man - you don't have to perform a gay wedding. Fine. But if you choose to operate a commercial establishment subject to secular law, such as the law against discrimination that the cake case was based on, then you should be expected to follow that law, or have consequences - just like every other business.

@daWatcher

Жыл бұрын

The trouble with this is that we fall into their rhetorical trap. We shouldn’t even engage with their red herrings. No church is going to be forced to marry a gay couple just like no church can be forced to marry anybody else. Churches are already free to discriminate against people of other religions and even other races, not just gay people. Let’s stay focused and not fall for their rhetoric.

@kellharris2491

Жыл бұрын

A huge problem is that hospitals and insurance companies are allowed to discriminate because of religion and deny contraception and other reproductive services. How is that right? Much of state taxes goes into hospitals.

@jeffreycarman2185

Жыл бұрын

No one wants to go back to some form of the Greenbook where certain people have to network amongst themselves to find businesses that will serve them.

@RobJT

Жыл бұрын

@@UberNoodle tbf, I would recommend that everyone leaves their religion anyway. So maybe we should do that.

@KitagumaIgen

Жыл бұрын

Go the French route! The only legal step for marriage is at the registrar at city hall (or whatever the proper English translation is of this that I had French friends explain to me), whatever happens in churches are a purely ceremonial proceedings only to the congregations and their gods with no legal impact. Proper separation of church and state.

If you can't put aside your personal beliefs to do your job (whether it be baking marriage cakes, providing health care, or being elected to public office) where you serve people who have beliefs different than your own, then why are you in that job in the 1st place?

@1MarkKeller

Жыл бұрын

truth bomb

@eldrickemc4602

Жыл бұрын

Like that pharmacy worker who refused to sell birth control pills, because Jesus.

@RainbowReaper1

Жыл бұрын

Exelent points, you can have different beliefs, IDFK how one regulates that. But if a business discriminated against me on the basis of my romantic orientation or sexuality(I’m Aromantic Asexual), like somwho they found out, then they should not be in business.

@LinkRocks

Жыл бұрын

Stop spamming the comments.

@MonkeyDIvan

Жыл бұрын

To play devil's advocate: in the case of the baking of a cake for the gay couple, shouldn't that be allowed? I've had this idea that it was wrong, but a guy once challenged me on this by telling me that it should be allowed because it's a private business. I countered by saying that the refusal to bake the cake was still wrong, to which he replied how I would like if somebody got to dictate how I handle my business. Given how I am an artist, the idea of me doing a commission of something I didn't like, and still having to do so because I should respect the person giving the request doesn't strike me the right way. If I like to draw girls and a person commissioned me to draw hairy muscular gay men (not that I discriminate against people like that, I'm just not interested in drawing them), wouldn't that be the same thing? Is this a fair comparison? Somebody once used the argument that it's wrong precisely because he finished the cake and _only_ upon discovering that it was for a gay couple he decided to not proceed with the payment, but that strikes me as non-sequitur since it doesn't adress the core issue. Anybody care to help me out? Thanks.

I just find it ironic how Ben Shapiro says he cares about facts but is also religious.

@andrewpierre3260

Жыл бұрын

@@UberNoodle Well said!

@AzafTazarden

Жыл бұрын

Facts over feelings, but also lets force schools to teach creationism in science class

@zemoxian

Жыл бұрын

@@AzafTazarden Is BS a creationist? Really?Let me know. I’ll set a reminder to be surprised on February 30th.

@djvycious

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. He spits stats to formulate his arguments and rebut others' but seems to miss that his religious position is completely without facts and stats. I'm not knocking peoples' faith, I'm just saying Ben has a dishonest position.

@edgingjogo

Жыл бұрын

@@djvycious Now, I'm confused. When does his race and belief come into the debate that he's doing?

ben's entire career revolves around forcing the idea that he deserves to be taken seriously

Now here's a guy[Ben] who should seriously consider doing *voice acting* for cartoon characters.

@RainbowReaper1

Жыл бұрын

Sam or Ben?? You are saying that ambiguously. I assume you mean Ben, but that is just me

@OscarLangleySoryu

Жыл бұрын

@@RainbowReaper1 Ben always sounds like a cartoon. Sam only sounds that way when he's actually doing a voice for a job

@oldishandwoke-ish1181

Жыл бұрын

Or the chipmunks.

@Toy1er

Жыл бұрын

Primarily rodent based characters.

@23ofSeptember

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of TCAP, Now here's a guy...

Ben Shapiro Dave rubin Blaire White Candace Owens Glen Greenwald ...the PICK ME AVENGERS! "They're five of the good ones!"

@nsbd90now

Жыл бұрын

Morally bankrupt existential failures, all of 'em...

@crenfick7750

Жыл бұрын

Laura Loomer, a Jew, defended Kanye DURING the Jones interview. Insane.

@anmolt3840051

Жыл бұрын

Glenn Greenwald is so sad ... He's now arguing for Ye's return to Twitter

@samiamrg7

Жыл бұрын

And their fallen leader: Milo Yiannopulous. Mr. Gay, mother-is-Jewish, and married-to-a-black-guy. The right wing already had their fun with him and he got discarded years ago.

@andu1854

Жыл бұрын

@@anmolt3840051 boy has he turned to a whiny git, and I always found him kinda arrogant and smug

"Secular inquisitions". Going to save that one for later. 🤣

@benmaiorella6296

Жыл бұрын

tbf, a lot of religious jews were persecuted by the USSR for their religion, forcing them to abandon their religion and cultural heritage, even banning Hebrew. of course nothing that happened was as bad as the Spanish Inquisition, but historically there are examples of atheistic countries trying to impose their lack of religion onto the citizenry. not to say that's happening in the US, the US isn't forcing religious ppl to give up their faith, but it is a bit disingenuous to pretend like no country has ever tried to force atheism onto the citizens, when the USSR is a pretty clear example of such a thing occurring

@mul1gan421

Жыл бұрын

In fairness Stalin wasn't the nicest guy to priests

@jj947

Жыл бұрын

New band name

@erikvan9582

Жыл бұрын

@@mul1gan421 Yeah,Stalin and Mao,but if we look at the number of instances this is the only 2 times that has happened in known human history,compared to the total number of instances it's much lower

@nolongerblocked6210

Жыл бұрын

I wrote it down to remember as well

Jesus, this man is proof that gender affirming medication really does work. Ben's voice is higher than mine. Yes, Ben, I am a woman.

@antimediaman9354

Жыл бұрын

If they wanna debate Ben then get off you safe platform and do it. These people are scared. I gaurentee he will destroy them just as he did their friend Cenk Yuger. He had em so flustered from the booing he absorbed he attacked at the audience and not Ben who was the one he was debating is was hilarious.

@pedro-pascals-armpit

Жыл бұрын

@@antimediaman9354 the second half of your comment is completely unintelligible, but that's not surprising, considering you think Ben has EVER "destroyed" anyone in a debate 😂😂

@Drekal684

Жыл бұрын

@@pedro-pascals-armpit I've seen the exact same comment from that user in reply to someone else. Likely not a bot, just copy and pasting comments with the intention of trolling anyone that replies.

@redrick8900

Жыл бұрын

@@antimediaman9354 Sure buddy, Shapiro gets dunked on whenever he tries to "debate" anyone besides college freshmen.

@antimediaman9354

Жыл бұрын

@@pedro-pascals-armpit unintelligible, but that's not surprising, considering you think Ben has EVER "destroyed" anyone in a debate " Not only are you not "intelligiable" they should deport your brain out of the counrty and declare it a patriotic service if you can't follow the bouncing ball buddy and watch Ben Debate Cenk Yuger and lose his ass!!

To be fair, he tried growing facial hair.

@pjtron41

Жыл бұрын

Winner

@AzafTazarden

Жыл бұрын

And he looked like someone who was really trying to pull off having facial hair.

No one is making you get gay married, Ben. Stop being so aggrieved.

"What do Republicans *get* from the passing of this bill?" I don't know, Ben, maybe it's not always about gaining, maybe it can be about honestly addressing the will of the people and executing it through the means of their elected station?

@jeffreycarman2185

Жыл бұрын

Right. The GOP is the only party that governs as a transaction instead of to just have “government of the people, by the people, for the people” to quote the Gettysburg Address.

@Montesama314

Жыл бұрын

"What? Legislation that's not about ME!? I'm gonna have to vote no."

@peterjermey7235

Жыл бұрын

They get the right to make same sex marriage illegal in red states and an explicit law banning people suing using religious institutions for discrimination against gay people

@MrMarinus18

9 ай бұрын

Remember the far right mindset: The elite make the rules and the peasants follow them. The peasants should not make the rules and the elite should not have to follow the rules.

If fundies don't wish to interact with the general populace, they can set their lives up to reflect their desire. That's freedom.

@lochnessamonster1912

Жыл бұрын

They’re doing that in entire states that they control majorities in.

Dear lord... why has no one ever told Ben Shapiro to get a voice coach?

@andu1854

Жыл бұрын

If he talked normally people would actually hear him have no clue what he is talking about

@donnievance1942

Жыл бұрын

@@andu1854 Yeah, slowing him down to comprehension level would blow his whole shtick.

@wraynephew6838

Жыл бұрын

No matter how much voice coaching he gets it will not make a difference. Ben Shapiro has a scattered brain with scattered incoherent thougths. It is his own mind that compels to talk as fast as he does. Random nonsensical topics pop up in his head while he speaks and he reacts to them all

@feralguyver

Жыл бұрын

@@donnievance1942 I can understand his bull without slowing him down... it'd be torture at a slower speed lol

Why does Benny hate equal protection of law?

@zachnesmith

Жыл бұрын

Because it means protecting people widdle Benjy Boo doesn’t like.

This is super clear and easy to understand: We live in a society after enlightenment. They want to go to a pre enlightenment society. He is axiomatically anti-enlightenment.

He’s winning at the bank though. That’s the war he’s really fighting.

@abbiealverez2960

Жыл бұрын

That's very true that is all he is doing it for

thanks for the video. here in Israel we have a whole government of Ben Shapiros. one of them just took the role of overseeing all extracurricular stuff that may enter schools and he is eying the curriculum itself - aiming at removing all reminders of non heterosexual families, cancelling gay parades, etc. so maybe it is good that the USA version of Ben Shapiro (i.e. theocrat) is not someone who walks the halls of power...

There’s no way you’ll ever convince me that that’s a human making that voice. All my cats cringed when Shapiro came on.

Thank You, Emma 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾The RFMA, Respect for Marriage Act, protects interracial marriages, too! That’s why R’s supported it, IMO.

@classiclife7204

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your IMO. Solely an LGBTQ issue? Who knows.

Go the French route! The only legal step for marriage is at the registrar at city hall (or whatever the proper English translation is of this that I had French friends explain to me), whatever happens in churches are a purely ceremonial proceedings only to the congregations and their gods with no legal impact. Proper separation of church and state.

@xtinkerbellax3

Жыл бұрын

Is that not how it already is? You don't need a religious ceremony to be legally married, you can just go to the court house, and you're not legally married if a religious ceremony is all you have.

@sisuguillam5109

Жыл бұрын

Same as in Germany.

Sam: “Just listen to this clip, would ya? Go ahead, play it.” *clip plays* “Th-“ Sam: “PAUSE IT!”

‘Facts don’t care about your feelings’ - Bases morals solely on what the bible says.

Let them go down this path. I can’t tell you how satisfying it will be to refuse service to a Trumpanzee or Religious Zealot. They somehow are of the belief that they are the only ones who shouldn’t have to serve anyone they don’t like. It’s a slippery slope and they will find themselves shut out from everything.

@johnmcgee636

Жыл бұрын

they will end up living in rural self-contained ghettos

@mikebanks2176

Жыл бұрын

If you’re refusing service to a trumpanzzee you’re most likely just an employee and will get fired by the conservative business owner. As a business owner you have the right to refuse service but not as a green haired lefty employee.

@1MrAngel1

Жыл бұрын

No. They DEMAND full service and accommodation. Case in point...the coach making his team pray with him on the field. Religious freedom for me but not for thee.

@OrangeStrayCat

Жыл бұрын

In those cases the Supreme Court would say it's totally different than denying a gay person service.

@keanuxu5435

Жыл бұрын

It’s like when Conservatives made a dating app only to find there’s no women on it

The more I see and hear Ben Shapiro, the more I'm convinced he's an elf.

@stevenkies802

Жыл бұрын

An elf who got kicked out of Santa's workshop. "Kringle is indoctrinating children into Communism by giving away free gifts!"

@sle2470

Жыл бұрын

He missed "elf practice".

@nancyjay790

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenkies802 I like this. Ben Shapiro as an elf too narrow minded and awful for Santa.

@stefanlvkc7986

Жыл бұрын

Goblin actually.

@sophiepooks2174

Жыл бұрын

Porky Pig, he was a nervous and very fast talker at times, that's all folks

Imagine loosing a war you made up lol

@daraghokane4236

Жыл бұрын

When your imaginary friend breaks a lamp you own

Unfortunately, Ben had an allergic reaction to the beard glue.

@antimediaman9354

Жыл бұрын

If you wanna debate Ben then get off you safe platfirm and do it. These people are scared. I gaurentee he will destroy them just as he did their friend Cenk Yuger. He had em so flustered from the booing he absorbed he attacked at the audience and not Ben who was the one he was debating is was hilarious.

Religion in the Soviet Union was actually very intricate, the KZreadr Lady Izdihar does some great videos on exclusively that subject, Stalin actually lead the Religious Thaw later in his time in office and Religion continued to be Liberalized for the most part after; the main reason for the appearance of the persecution of Religion initial was that Lenin thought it could be abolished through education, but mostly because Religious institutions were being used, much like we see in the United States, as a radicalizing recruitment ground to promote terrorism against the government; the White Army was very religious and leading pogroms and clandestine terrorism against the Soviet Union, stomping them out required the government to be stringent with those Religious institutions that were aiding them.

@steelersguy74

Жыл бұрын

Oooo she has a KZread channel? Her TikToks are fun and interesting.

@noheroespublishing1907

Жыл бұрын

@@steelersguy74 She's got some good longer videos on there on the subject.

@donnievance1942

Жыл бұрын

Parallel to the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine.

@anmolt3840051

Жыл бұрын

The Soviets did actually publish atheist propaganda ... I would argue that Soviet atheism (really anti-theism) was more akin to a state religion and generally a bad idea to double down upon

@noheroespublishing1907

Жыл бұрын

@@anmolt3840051 It was pushed during the early period, but that wasn't the entirety of the Soviet Union and it relationship with Religion; it was Stalin who reinstituted the Eastern Orthodox Church. And most of the Islamic regions had a decent relationship with the Union. Much of the "Anti-Religion" hype about the Soviet Union is done by Far Right Reactionaries who need to keep this propaganda up for the Religious populations in their home country not to be inquisitive about Socialism.

A minute ago I would have not been abled to serve in the military or date my girlfriend or live where I live now. Ben is out there

Amazing segment- well done guys! Keeping me sane for the last 5 years!

Emma is just amazing! I love hearing her takes on everything. She is so smart.

@venom-gt7rc

Жыл бұрын

Soo smart: Emma (3:03): "You'll never see Ben Shapiro looking at polls about gay marriage" Ben (3:23): "The polls show that there is widespread support for same-sex marriage"

May secularism reign supreme.

@liaemilie6583

Жыл бұрын

but first! allow me to d e s t r o y your art gallery.

This law is good, but I have no confidence that the Republican SCOTUS won't simply strike it down.

@nolongerblocked6210

Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine on what grounds they'd legally do that, especially after all the carve outs, but I could definitely see some court somewhere try to

@ThePS101

Жыл бұрын

@@nolongerblocked6210 The question is NOT "what grounds," but, do the republican SC justices CARE about those laws. Unfortunately, THEY are the top. If the republican SC justices say so, then what can you do. After seeing how this SC operates, I would NOT be surprised if they allowed a law that turned the US into a Christian Saudi Arabia. I would NOT be surprised if they outlawed the color black. One should NOT underestimate the power SC judges have. In terms of legal power, they are GOD, BUDDHA, MUHAMMAD, SHIVA, and DARWIN on the SC benches. They have THAT kind of power, even if it is for evil.

@charisma-hornum-fries

Жыл бұрын

If, or when they figure out the way, they will. Or find out the next scotus in line to leak it.

@MrMarket1987

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePS101 It's not really that great. Not even SCOTUS has any business pulling interpretations out of their ass whenever they feel like, because it's not their job to MAKE laws, but to _settle unadressed matters_ around them that Congress didn't get to in the first place. If it was _solely_ up to them to interpret laws, then they could just declare themselves rulers of the land just because no one could tell them otherwise; That's just not how that works. By all means, they have an obligation to _follow_ the law, that is to say, follow the leads from Congress and the Presidency. These are lifetime appointments, and not actually voted on by the general public. By that very nature, leaving it all up to them as having first and last say on the law in spite of the country completely misses the point of our politics and Constitution in the first place. "A government Of the people, By the people, For the people" cannot be something that just casually leaves THE PEOPLE out whenever it feels like.

@nathanedison8692

Жыл бұрын

@@MrMarket1987 You're technically right as a matter of law, but practically speaking, there is no constitutional mechanism short of impeachment (like that's ever going to happen again) to overrule SCOTUS. As a result, their collective power is comparable to that of a monarch, only ultimately restrained by the potential loss of political legitimacy and the threat of revolution. That said, I don't think the current court, as crazy as it has become, would overrule the Respect for Marriage Act. Sure, I can imagine Alito and Thomas and perhaps Barrett voting that way, but even the conservative justices fall along a continuum of ideology, and most have at least a little regard for the law, if not precedent. Now give Trump or DeSantis another term or two and Mitch McConnell or his successor an opportunity to game the system to pack a few more conservatives onto the court, and I think anything could happen.

Uh oh, his ideas are losing in the marketplace of ideas

@jeffarnold3800

Жыл бұрын

You know what you can do with his ideas? Wipe you ass with them

@philkovach948

Жыл бұрын

Always has been

@fullmatthew

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, my brain is in recovery mode from taking in so many high level ideas lol

Remember that Alito's leaked draft of _Dobbs,_ which after the Schenck revelation I think we are entitled to a rebuttable presumption Alito leaked, mentioned _Loving v. Virginia._ Of course Thomas' final didn't mention that because you-know-who. So making miscegenation illegal cannot be ruled out of the R-type mindset, the things _left to the States._

English is my second language, so I have a question: Is "man, woman and child" really a traditional terminology for family? I always thought it would be "father, mother and children" or "parents and children" or "closest relatives". I never heard the parents described as "man" and "woman" before recently from English language rightwing bigots.

@yammez1

Жыл бұрын

Ben likes to pretend that nuclear families are the like... the ultimate family that is superior to all and has been acknowledged as the ultimate family in every culture when he knows both of those things are not true.

@logicalfallacy234

Жыл бұрын

I guess the counter argument is “a family is whatever anyone wants it to be”? Which, idk! Not saying it’s right or wrong, but so much of conservatism IS essentially the idea that, life has objective truth to it, whereas progressives often feel life is whatever anyone subjectively defines it as. The reason I bring that up is, to a conservative, the idea that life, including family, is “whatever you make of it” is nonsense, but to a progressive, the idea that “life has an objective meaning to it, with objective structures such as the nuclear family”, a progressive sees that as authoritarian and oppressive.

@algi1

Жыл бұрын

@@logicalfallacy234 Well, I think there's no denying that human children need parenting. That's an objectively real thing. Someone has to play parent. And it's also objectively true that many times the person or people playing parent(s) can't be the biological parents because shit happens. These radical rightwingers who people call conservatives aren't trying to conserve or go back to an existing status quo where every family is biological father, biological mother and their children born from the mother from their father's seed. And this isn't even such an old idea, this comes from the 50s after WW2 ended. Before that wars, the economy and different societal hierarchies (like fricking feudalism in Europe) dictated completely different dynamics of parenting.

@logicalfallacy234

Жыл бұрын

@@algi1 What did pre-WW 1 social customs in Europe dictate for families, if not father-mother-child relationship?

@sisuguillam5109

Жыл бұрын

The definition of family in Europe alone differs depending where and when you are. You can draw a line between house/home languages roughly. Judith Flanders writes about it in The Making of Home. Very interesting read. What Shapiro claims to be traditional is none of the sort.

Emma is bringing some strong points forward here!!

There are more and more GOP grandparents who find themselves with same sex children who are giving them grandchildren and want both their children and grandchildren protected by law. Case in point Sen Rob Portman began supported same sex marriage when his son came out to the family. Dick Cheney came out in support of Same sex marriage when his daughter announced she was gay,

@jeffreycarman2185

Жыл бұрын

It’s hard for some people to have empathy for “others” but these can be made to come around when things directly effect them or their family. This is, in my view, a fundamental element of humanity. We have a tough time caring about stuff that doesn’t effect us directly (in fact if we don’t make a specific effort to care, many of us wouldn’t care).

@billfelsher5159

Жыл бұрын

The definition of a liberal is a conservative that has been to jail.

Ben Shapiro is such a sad waste of potential. A brilliant kid who never grew in character ever since adolescence, and chose to embrace intellectual dishonesty and moral bankruptcy as a career path. I guess that is lucrative in one sense, but terrifyingly bankrupt in some others...

@emytann7838

Жыл бұрын

Que grande verdad.

@johnmcgee636

Жыл бұрын

he probably lives in Borough Park or Flatbush N.Y. or possibly Lakewood N.J.

@olafnilsen1641

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmcgee636 Florida

@nickradic

Жыл бұрын

Moral bankruptcy? How do you ground morals, I assume you have an objective standard?

@donnievance1942

Жыл бұрын

I assume you mean the objective standards provided by the Blue Pixies who created the universe?

Those people are crazy. Some guy literally tried to argue that telling someone to leave their religion out of your life is telling them what to do and then he called me a hypocrite who was virtue signaling and kept making these pseudo intellectual arguments on how he was just pointing out my hypocrisy 😮‍💨🙄. So according to them telling them to leave you alone AFTER they bother you is telling them what to do and wanting to impose my beliefs on them because I said leave me out of your religion 😒.

Republicans should force Ben to say Merry Christmas.

Why dont Disney sign him up,His voice is perfect for a new Donald Duck

The person laughing in the background is sending me!!

I’m surprised no one pointed out that AGAIN Shapiro says relationships are between “man woman child” in such a creepy way instead of saying “man and woman” like you’d expect him to say. I thought he would’ve went back on that as a mistake but he’s sticking with it.

A huge problem is that hospitals and insurance companies are allowed to discriminate because of religion and deny contraception and other reproductive services. How is that right? Much of state taxes goes into hospitals.

@jeffreycarman2185

Жыл бұрын

These are religion-based hospitals. These religions seem to think that imposing their version of morality on their patents, even if it means putting the lives of their patients in danger.

@kellharris2491

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreycarman2185 yes I don't understand why there isn't more outrage. If you look at the states budget the biggest spender is on even these faith based hospitals. It doesn't seem right.

I used to think it was homophobic when people say Ben is actually gay, this segment convinced me that I was wrong and I apologize to anyone i said that to

@redrick8900

Жыл бұрын

Dude doesn't believe vaginas get wet. He better be gay. It's way too sad if he's not.

Love the show. Left is best!

@lorencalfe6446

Жыл бұрын

and the right is shite!

Shapoopie has NEVER explained precisely how gay people being married affects his day-to-day life in ANY meaningful way. He's a Theocrat, plain and simple.

Anyone got the poll where we want baker to bake that cake? Would be a good source to have.

The only thing coming close to a secular tribunal trying to force a secular belief on society would be the House Committee for Unamerican Activities under Joe McCarthy. And it is well documented which political leaning in today's USA is in strong support for that. From Newt Gingrich to someone in the current GOP, can't remember his name.

Right off the bat Sam is lying his ass off.

@andreasplosky8516

Жыл бұрын

Nope.

Why does Shapiro talk all the time like he is auctioning off a cow?

If Ben ever has the courage to come out he would be glad for the Respect For Marriage Act 🤣😂

@antimediaman9354

Жыл бұрын

If you wanna debate Ben then get off you safe platform and do it. These people ae scared. I gaurentee he will destry them just as he did their friend Cenk Yuger. He had em so flustered from the booing he absorbed he attacked at the audience and not Ben who was the one he was debating is was hilarious.

@zernebock73

Жыл бұрын

@@antimediaman9354 Andrew Neil squished Ben like a bug. With a twitch of one eyebrow.

@andredunbar3773

Жыл бұрын

@@zernebock73 All Andrew Neil did was challenge Ben on his views in an interview, and Ben couldn't maintain his composure enough to properly respond to it

@Umbrage0

Жыл бұрын

@@andredunbar3773 maybe because his bigotry is uh... indefensible?

@andredunbar3773

Жыл бұрын

@@Umbrage0 That's true, but the questions that Neil was asking were about his position on abortion and his concern about the harshness of rhetoric that was being used in recent years, which is ironic when (as mentioned by Neil) Shapiro has videos on his own youtube channel about how he "destroys" things like feminism and transgenderism.

Emma cracks a smile at what Sam said at 8:55. I feel like she was thinking the words "like a woman".

@TheMisterGuy

Жыл бұрын

"Emma cracks a smile at what Sam said at 8:55. I feel like she was thinking the words "like a woman"." I said that out loud. I think we all knew. I just realized how awful that is. Everyone who knows who lil' Benny is, knows about his wife's DAP.

Ben Shabibo once again giving lie to his own claims to being a libertarian by complaining when liberal policy gets passed.

That's because it's OUR culture, and Benji is just a troll attacking it. Hey, do you know how you can tell which kind of Jewish wedding you're attending? At a Lubavitcher wedding, the mother of the bride is pregnant At an Orthodox wedding, the rabbi's wife is pregnant. At a Conservative wedding, the bride is pregnant. At a Reform wedding, the rabbi is pregnant. At a Unitarian-Universalist wedding, the officiant is pregnant, and so is her wife.

Let’s gooo MR crew!!!

Do we really need the dude doing the fake laughing in the background? What is that about?

any type of progress can be slowed down, but it can never be stopped. our society will eventually leave these pricks behind

@elijahhernandez906

Жыл бұрын

Is that the reason humanity has been held back for the past 100yrs?

@1369Stiles

Жыл бұрын

@@elijahhernandez906 more like several millennia. this kind of bullshit has been going on since the first god was created

Has anyone tried sitting down Shapiro and explain to him that nobody is forcing him to get gay married?

How does Ben intend to convince anybody of anything when he talks so fast and so high that only dogs can hear him?

@sisuguillam5109

Жыл бұрын

The point is not to convince through argument but through performance. It's all posture.

@JCYoung-ni4cy

Жыл бұрын

@@sisuguillam5109 - so talk as fast and as high pitched as possible because whoever gets the most words in under 10 minutes wins... i guess.

So if everybody agrees that woman, man and child is the foundation of society can we just all live our lives as we wish Ben?

@RainbowReaper1

Жыл бұрын

He is saying that man women have sex for procreation then give birth and raise the kid is the basis for human society. Maybe 1 million fucking years ago he would be right(that is obviously exaggerated) but things change, SURROGATES EXSIST.

@mikeskew01

Жыл бұрын

@@RainbowReaper1 and if we agree with him we can do whatever we want.

Clean air and water are the basic building blocks of society shapeno

Ben Shapiro - I’m for freedom an equality. Wait, no, but not like that

My bench still has not appeared

How can he be that dry, while drenched in sweat?

Shapiro is a clearly very intelligent which is why it's so odd he's reached the wrong conclusions from simple set ups. Put simply he posits a hypothesis based on his political position that he finds unalterably true and then when facts contradict this he warps and cherry picks outcomes to reaffirm his hypothesis. If you did this as a scientist you would be instantly dismissed. It's annoying because he's clearly smart enough to know what he's doing but deliberately ignores it because it's inconvenient to him. In the same vein he supports white nationalists despite being an observing Jewish man and he must also realise they hate jews. They chant it at rallies. At Charlottesville. What is he actually hoping for? He appears to support theocratic nationalism (which in the US means evangelical christian) so if his "friends" got what they wanted he would be first on the pyre. He's a Quisling but with no real reason to be so. I'll give him credit because he must be aware of his position but I think he's dug his hole so deep now that he can't climb out and the only thing he can do is keep doubling down.

@jeffreycarman2185

Жыл бұрын

Right. Shapiro is smart enough to know exactly what he is doing, which is dissembling, dog whistling, and hate mongering for an audience that includes antisemites. He has more than one fan who has committed violent acts of antisemitism. But he can just shrug it off. It seems that he is ok with lying, cheating, and grifting because the paycheck is so big.

@raistlin3462

Жыл бұрын

Shapiro is a con man peddling bullshit to an audience of white conservative morons who are scared of their increasingly irrelevancy. Ben doesn't expect or want them to win. Just to profit from their outrage.

@rbarnett3200

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreycarman2185 I agree to an extent, but I don't believe he's lying as such, he just sort of skirts around the truth. He accepts facts but then walks around them. I suppose my point is that he's intelligent enough to be aware of facts and ultimately accepts them but he has to tie himself in knots to fit his political position. This is what annoys me about him. He's established a stance and even though he's fully aware that all the evidence contradicts it he can't let go of his original position. He's a conservative Orthodox Jew, and that's fine, difference of opinion and constructive debate is what liberty is all about, but he's so incredibly entrenched that he can't change his mind even though I think he largely agrees with opposing positions. He lacks any ability for contrition or humility. Some times we're just wrong and we have to accept it, understand why and move on. But he can't, for some reason. But he so obviously knows he's wrong and still can't move on from that. That's my issue with him. He's not a "true-believer" as such and is a rational thinker but he won't let facts, common humanity and decency or even civility shake him from a position he's staked in the ground that he clearly knows is false.

@rbarnett3200

Жыл бұрын

@@raistlin3462 I don't think that's true. He knows what he's talking about and he's a conservative, which is fine, not my political stance, but each to their own. My problem, put simply, is that he knows that he's wrong. I don't think he's shilling but I do think he's partially an opportunist. He twists everything to confirm or affirm his stance which he knows to be invalid.

@redrick8900

Жыл бұрын

He's not intelligent.

Whether they're married or not there have always been gay relationships of sorts going on. Often traditionalists find it more acceptable when it's a homosexual relationship between two people of different social statuses.

As a liberal, I think it's immoral to demand other non-emergency businesses to perform services for you that violate the principles or spirit of their religion.

@robingalbraith323

Жыл бұрын

Sure, as long as it's consistent. Make the cake baker ask every client if they had premarital sex. If either of the couple says yes, you can't do the cake. Ask them if they are living together. If they say yes, no cake. Ask if either of them has been divorced. If yes, no cake. Oh and don't forget to ask then their religion and make sure it's your exact same. Wouldn't want you as a protestant participating in a catholic wedding right? You shouldn't get to pick and choose which religious principles you are going to enforce right?

@mountainjay

Жыл бұрын

@@robingalbraith323 yes, people should be able to pick and choose what actions they wish to perform. People should not be forced to provide non-emergency / non-health related services against their will.

@mountainjay

Жыл бұрын

@@robingalbraith323 it's not religious principles- it's any principles, religious or not. Of course, those principles will naturally be subjective.

@robingalbraith323

Жыл бұрын

@@mountainjay so it's not a deeply held belief? Do you not see the issue with cherry picking from your religious text? And why only non emergency occupations? Do doctors not have deeply held beliefs? Are they supposed to go against those? That's a really weird line you drew there? So some people should be forced to go against their beliefs? Why? Why do you make some do it but not all or none?

@mountainjay

Жыл бұрын

@@robingalbraith323 no I don't see the issue you described at all. Whatever is a deeply held belief, we should not force citizens to do things against their will unless the people they are servicing are receiving essential needs like health etc.

Just wished his loss would show more in overall voting power.

Sams ability to detect nuanced falsehoods cloaked in truth is unreal.

@nickradic

Жыл бұрын

Sam believes the majority wanting something makes it true or good. He dosen't even have an objective foundation with which to judge good/bad or right/wrong.

@Virjunior01

Жыл бұрын

@@nickradic ya goofed

@jeffreycarman2185

Жыл бұрын

@@nickradic that’s actually incorrect. Sam and Emma cite the polls, which overwhelmingly support what Ben Shapiro calls “the liberal agenda” because Shapiro is lying about the general support for these things. I couldn’t say exactly where Sam’s views come from: whether they come from Judaism (which, with 83% of Jews supporting same-sex marriage in 2013, is ahead of the general populace when it comes to accepting LGBTQ people and same-sex marriage) or from his progressive worldview or some combination.

If a religious person could claim serving and respecting LGBT people is against their morals and they should be allowed to refuse service on that basis. Then, someone claiming to refuse to serve food to overweight people is justified by that same logic. You get to just make up whatever you want to marginalize anyone.

Let us hope not, because Ben is on the side of sanity.

They are constantly losing. Just not fast enough.

“you can’t legislate morality “: Tip O’Neill

@johnmcgee636

Жыл бұрын

oh yes we can!

@MephilestehDarkness

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmcgee636 No you can't liar.

@johnmcgee636

Жыл бұрын

with a LITTLE FORCE you can do anything

Ben Shapiro is so insulated from criticism that he continues to speak like the annoying middle schooler everyone hated growing up. If I spoke that way, I'd never speak again

@Spock_Rogers

11 ай бұрын

Hide his violin case.

great discussion

Nobody is forcing Shapiro to do shit. He just needs to mind his own damn business.

Ben Shapiro has always been vastly overrated as a rhetorician, the problem is his audience, sponsors and sub count

Ben loves speaking for Jewish people so much you'd think he was King of the Jews. Not sure if Ben is aware that, that trademark is being used by someone else 😏

Emma out here looking fine as hell

Ben Shapiro, self appointed Chief Rabbi of the United States.

Must be hard being a 75 year old man in a 12 year old boy's body

The "culture war" whatever the hell that means is not mean to be "win" is mean to be a fabric of non problems and outrage. I mean, what they try to do? Not long ago the right clutched the pearls due to a 2 seconds lesbian Kiss in a kid's movie. It was Doomsday for them, now think about this, Let's Say someone at Disney watched Ben Shapiro saying that those 2 seconds of wokeness will bring the end of times and the company cuts it out to never see the light of day ever. Then what? What problem that cut solved? Are they going to take victory laps saying that Disney unwoke themselves? Are they going to Buy 100 copies of the DVD? Of course not. The right craves for this shit, they wait desperate for the next lesbian Kiss in a series, for the next trans person in a Public office, for the next actor who comes out of the closet. Cause they run on hatred and NEED new targets every day.

@1MarkKeller

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, especially that last part. Hating is the point on the Right. If they can't bake you a cake because of their religious beliefs, how long before they can't abide you working at their job or living in their neighborhood? How long before they expand it to banning you from their city or state or their country because of their religious beliefs? How long before they don't want you on the planet ... and then, who will be next?

I gotta say that Ben's studio design and materials used in expert lighting has been improving lately. I would love to see a waitress walk by in a hurry to go punch out , or bring a coffee order out to him on a fancy tray.

Wtf is he talking about? It's a law... I don't give a damn that Shapiro can't accept same sex marriage. "i guess we can't have same sex marriage. Shapiro doesn't like it." Said no one.

Ben must have whiplash from publically talking about the victims of Kanye's antisemitism and then acting as the same kind of bigot to LGBT people.

To be fair here... Sam seems to be ignorant of history when he says that nobody anywhere was ever persecuted by a secular government and society for the crime of being religious... This is untrue. Russia and China both at times in history have famously done exactly that. And particularly against Christianity.

@johnmcgee636

Жыл бұрын

you forgot Most of Europe.....Catholics against Protestants...and vice-versa from the early 1500's -the late 1600's

@sprig5173

Жыл бұрын

Every excuse has been used for the atrocities committed to keep powerful people powerful.

@redrick8900

Жыл бұрын

You are talking about the USSR, not Russia, and even in the USSR people weren't persecuted for being Christian. They were persecuted for being the wrong kind of Christian. Also, the USSR and China aren't really secular. Communism is a religion all it's own.

@SkepticSloth

Жыл бұрын

@@redrick8900 they were definitely secular. Just not the "right kind" of secular.

@redrick8900

Жыл бұрын

@@SkepticSloth Once you are elevating people to god status you have left the world of the secular.

Let's say you own a cake shop, open to the public, advertised to the public and taking public money from the public...

If secular society forces people not to be religious, doesn't that defeat the point of secularism? Isn't secularism supposed to be a blanket term for a society made of religious and non-religious people, therefore allowing people to express religious beliefs to respect the 1st Amendment's expression clause? Cause if not then it defeats its own definition and is unconstitutional.

Ben's standard is that the law should shield him from having to acknowledge gay people exist now? I have to acknowledge that this stunted gremlin exists despite that being horrifying, but you don't hear me crying to the government.