Ben Hogan vs. Sam Snead (Shell's Wonderful World of Golf) Houston Country Club Houston, Texas USA Aired February 21, 1965
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@MikeSmith-ry8hiАй бұрын
I wasn't even alive, but this is so nostalgic and comforting. Even the intro exploring Houston in 1965 tugs at my soul.
@stevedriscoll2539
Ай бұрын
You said it Mike!
@VonHanzeeАй бұрын
We use to have such a nice country. Its easy to see we are watching what is a lost civilization.
@senorstronk
16 күн бұрын
culture makers have culture bombed us all. i recently turned to gambling on golf and watching it more. sadly it's the only telecast you can watch now and it still feel somewhat how it once was. watching basketball or football on tv is over. too much rap music and culture bombing going on. it's over.
@matthewbailey601718 күн бұрын
I wish I had been born in 1935 so in 1955 I would be 20. The mid 50’s in my opinion would have been a great time to be alive.
@Whatzzzz99926 күн бұрын
These guys are hitting it 260-265-270 off the tee with basically a piece of varnished two-by-one attached to a walking stick. Respect. Golf monsters!
@ddzielke
25 күн бұрын
And zero steroids.
@dennissvitak5475
23 күн бұрын
I was hitting my Persimmon driver 280 back in the mid 70's..but it took every bit of my 150 pounds to do it.
@jamesanthony5681
19 күн бұрын
With those golf balls.
@Mblandreth125 күн бұрын
If only golf was still this great! 😊
@michaelreid561527 күн бұрын
Loving these clips and George Rogers’ soothing, classic voice.
@marksimpson2321Ай бұрын
Fabulous to get to watch extended coverage of two of the very greatest golfers in history.
@louisbrugnoni7639Ай бұрын
Never saw this show originally but I wish they would do a remake today.
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
They did a remake in the mid to late 90s
@tombranson9341Ай бұрын
2 of some of the best swings in golf.
@Curt-rn7upАй бұрын
Thanks for putting this on KZread! It was cool to get a lesson from Hogan and Snead!!
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
No problem. It bothered me the full version wasn’t on here!
@davidm7038Ай бұрын
loved this series
@poocrayon4588Ай бұрын
Oh man, finally! I've been waiting years to see the full version of this. Thanks buddy.
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome. I was so upset the full version wasn’t on KZread, I had to buy the VHS on eBay and convert it. Then figured the world deserves to see this too!
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@WhereTheyPlayForPay I didn't even realise these were available on VHS. I'm looking through those I haven't seen now and thinking about ordering some that haven't already been uploaded. One of the Knudson matches and the one at Bamf springs were what got me started playing golf. Great stuff, best golf presentation ever in this Shell Series in my opinion, and this particular episode is a rare chance to see two of the all time greats from the pre TV era in color both still playing very well (In Hogans case on this day exceptionally well).
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 I believe a few were released on VHS ~30 years ago. I love George Knudson - thankfully many of his episodes are on KZread. I also just bought the book by Fred Raphael that goes over the history of the series!
@akeenamateur7844
Ай бұрын
This match is a real treasure, and now having the full version (and especially with lessons at the end) is awesome! Thanks for the upload!😊
@stevedriscoll2539Ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I should be watching the 2024 PGA championship, but I love this period and these players more.
@joeydownunder2976
Ай бұрын
21 under winning score - what a joke
@allahalibaba9063Ай бұрын
Two of the Greats..Thanks Shell for this clip.....
@frankxaoz12869 сағат бұрын
I didn’t know they had such long par 3’s… The ladies look lovely in this video
@GreenDistantStarАй бұрын
Hogan hit every fairway and green in regulation, his shots never straying more than a few yards from their intended target. He did so with butter-knife blades and balata balls, at the age of 52. Some of his avid fans have said that if he'd had the putting game of his contemporaries like Casper, he'd have been shooting low 60s and even sub-60 every time he stepped up. IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground.
@johndickson9542
Ай бұрын
" IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground." His ball striking was beyond compare. However, his putting was poor, by his own admission, and that would prevent him from grinding everyone today into the ground. He'd certainly hold his own, though.
@GreenDistantStar
Ай бұрын
@@johndickson9542 I agree, putting was his Achille's Heel. By 'grinding' I mean this. Hogan was frequently outdriven by his contemporaries. He ground them down by approach shots that put pressure on them. His consistency was the key to his success. It's very tricky to make generational comparisons. But I've an idea that with identical equipment, he would give any of today's players a tough time, especially in matchplay. If he had Jack or Tiger's putting game? Scary thought.
@msalzberg4962
Ай бұрын
It's worth noting that Hogan's left eye was damaged in the car accident, hurting the depth perception necessary for good putting.
@FabrisFanatic
Ай бұрын
@@msalzberg4962 indeed. He had impaired vision and significant nerve damage in his hands. It's astounding how well he did after the accident.
@msalzberg4962
Ай бұрын
@@FabrisFanatic Not to mention the constant pain in his legs. And yet he won 6 of 7 tournaments he entered in 1953, including 3 majors. Astounding, indeed.
@Redmenace96Ай бұрын
Amazing! YT wins!! I didn't know this existed. Ben Hogan is my hero!!!!
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome 😂
@tomdotson6053Ай бұрын
I miss this America
@georgestevens3000
26 күн бұрын
We all do class of 65.
@philipcarthy297721 күн бұрын
beautiful, wonderful golfers
@ModernBuildsАй бұрын
Thanks for uploading this!!
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@user-ok9ue8gp6kАй бұрын
I can’t even imagine hitting a 1-iron manufactured in 1960.
@LanceCampeau
Ай бұрын
I have a few... not that hard to hit... but they do require a a fair amount of club head speed and strike accuracy
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
My hands are stinging with just the thought and I haven’t even tried it yet. I had a one iron back in my younger days but it’s full steam ahead with hybrids nowadays. Lol
@user-ok9ue8gp6k
Ай бұрын
@@Tom-ok2rh Can you imagine trying to hit that club on a cold day?
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
@@user-ok9ue8gp6k we call those mis hits when it’s cold “stingers”😄😄
@louisbrugnoni7639
Ай бұрын
I can’t hit a 3 iron now. Lol
@danielterry382Ай бұрын
Unbelievable match, The Hawk vs The Slammer.
@FF04RDFАй бұрын
6 iron looked like the same loft as an 8 iron today.
@PNW_Sportbike_Life
Ай бұрын
it sure did
@markwright2751Ай бұрын
Hogan was THE master golfer and likely considered the greatest of All-Time if he didn't have that terrible car wreck. The man was a machine.
@georgebrennan2576
22 күн бұрын
Didn't use steroids or blood spinning whatever they call it
@Imknottshore
10 күн бұрын
9 of 16 majors that stretch with 6 majors after the wreck thats whats incredible
@MikeL-vu7joАй бұрын
such gentleman
@puredmashie19 күн бұрын
I'm a huge Hogan fan but I love Snead's tassled golf shoes!
@jasonjason5184Ай бұрын
Thank you for posting, I was wanting to see this since I was -5
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@mrveritas700Ай бұрын
Thank you !
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@dcxxx6850Ай бұрын
So much better than any of today’s you tubers it’s laughable.
@sheedy9
Ай бұрын
These are two of the greatest ever...
@jeremyc9593
Ай бұрын
For napping, definitely
@corn204Ай бұрын
Good quality thanks slicky micky
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
lol. You’re welcome
@thinlet1Ай бұрын
This would be like playing with equipment from a thrift store 20 yrs ago. Amazing golf swings.
@dorothygale1104
Ай бұрын
This is the equipment that should still be used today and then you would know how much of the distance is due to technology and how much is die the skill of the player. Current pros hitting 350 yard drives with the current club technology and juiced balls is like pro baseball players being allowed to use metal bats and then crowing about how far they hit it or how many homers they hit. Nobody would buy that as legitimate, yet in golf the powers that be have allowed technology to take over the game. Aaron Judge hits his 450’ bombs with a stick of wood just like Ruth & Gehrig did.
@te_kagi
Ай бұрын
@@dorothygale1104 And to extrapolate further if I may, Ruth and Gehrig hit a ball that was a little different as well.
@misternewman1576
Ай бұрын
I keep hoping there will be an annual tournament just using vintage equipment like this, open to all the pro players. Call it the Vintage Open!
@1snaj
Ай бұрын
To say from a thrift store 20 years ago is being way too generous… lol
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@dorothygale1104 Exactly, it's ruined continuity within the game and many courses and the overall style of play (not to mention it looks cartoonish to see those big ass driver heads, they're like bumper bowling for golf). The metal drivers were first meant to be for women and the elderly so they could keep some pace with grown men - now we have the best of the grown men using models far easier to hit with than those meant to give worse players an advantage. It's a ridiculous situation which should never have happened.
@streetsoundselectro124Ай бұрын
Great video, how good were both swings!
@chr970Ай бұрын
What a great upload. Even the music was great. Loved the intro with the neighborhoods and background info. I know it’s been said over and over, but their talent was unreal. That old equipment, 7000 yards,….they could handle it. Sure, it’s been mentioned almost cliche and I’m doing it here, but fun to imagine what these two men would do with todays equipment and technology. The best today would still be incredible if they were given this old equipment to mind you.
@jbc1042
14 күн бұрын
And don't forget the technology of golf course management and conditions too!
@donaldschmidt2990Ай бұрын
Green Distant Star's comment is spot on. William Ben Hogan is the greatest shotmaker in the history of golf. That includes Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, or any other player before or since!! What makes this clip so compelling is that Hogan, in this match, was absolutely brilliant. Even for Ben Hogan!! He hit every Fairway, Every Green. In doing so, his shots didn't vary 10 feet the entire day from the tee shot to the flag!! A true case study in the golfing genius of the "Wee Ice Mon." As the Scots referred to him. Even scarier is that Hogan in an average round was almost as good. Probably the most unbelievable golf stat I've ever heard is what Hogan accomplished in 1940, while winning three consecutive tournaments in North Carolina. In those 216 holes played, Hogan missed a total of two greens!! The average leader in GIR on the current tour is about 75 percent. How about 99 percent for Hogan?! What kept Jack and Tiger in the discussion for the greatest player was their superior putting. No one, NO ONE, controlled a golf ball like Ben Hogan. This great video is a timeless look at a genius like no other.
@aq7705
Ай бұрын
Moe Norman
@scottreiber6879
Ай бұрын
Lee Trevino.
@donaldschmidt2990
Ай бұрын
@scottreiber6879 We have to agree to disagree on this one. The Merry Mex was a solid number two. In the wonderful golf channel bio "Hogan" Trevino joked that "you had to turn sideways to see the flag because his golf ball covered it every time he hit it!! Their other similarity is in how rough they had it growing up. Trevino didn't have a home with electricity until he joined the Marines. Both outworked their peers in every way. "The greatest thing in golf is confidence," Trevino observed in Hogan. The more dirt you move, the more confidence you get." Both had another less fortunate similarity in their career. They both suffered terrible accidents. Hogan from a terrible car collision with a Greyhound bus. Trevino, decades later, was struck by lightning. It's easily the toughest pair ever to trod the links. Anytime. Anywhere.
@aq7705
Ай бұрын
Tiger had 2 car accidents. GOAT?
@rekababa6671Ай бұрын
"Ben has hit his opening tee shot just a little bit right-to-left" 😄
@rayrussell6258Ай бұрын
This head-to-head format would be nice to repeat with some of today's Senior golfers. Shell is still around, too. They might sign on to be sponsor again. Other than the Majors, I'm not too interested in the big 4-day tourneys anymore. But I might watch a shorter one-day event like this, on youtube.
@joeydownunder2976Ай бұрын
12:50 lightning strikes twice. Snead doesn’t even re-start his pre-shot routine. Just stripes it long and straight with a club that today would be size of a hybrid.
@larrymac1700Ай бұрын
So damn cool!
@buckeyeg4888Ай бұрын
Pure Class
@johnfury6481Ай бұрын
Snead’s one iron is only useful on the kitchen table for us mere mortals.
@CrispyGFXАй бұрын
Amazing how hard they have to hit those butts on those greens.
@damienkearns3654Ай бұрын
SHELL, let's get this show back on the road. First up: Padraig Harrington Vs Phil Mickelson played at The RIV. I'm waiting ⏳😁
@bmurray330Ай бұрын
“Par 72 and it’s a long baby playing 7,056 yards”. 😊 The PGA at Valhalla this year is 7,609 yards and is a par 71. Amazing what technology and player fitness has done to the game. I like the old days better though. Skill and a good golf noggin was required more than in today’s game.
@A-FrameWedge
Ай бұрын
The avg driving distance on PGA Tour in 1980 was 256 yards and I am positive it was lower by at least 10 yards in the 1960’s. The avg driving distance on PGA tour is about 300 yards. And all clubs are going much further because of the ball on irons, fwy woods. And Hogan and Snead were 52 years old so they were playing a course that was considered long by 1964 PGA tour standards. The U.S. Open at Congressional was 7056 yards and was the longest US Open course up until 1964
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
Aside from a few people really training speed I think it's mostly the tech. It's not just that the drivers (especially) hit further, you can also swing like crazy because you dont have to really middle the ball in a smaller sweet spot. There may be some distance increase without the tech because of players working out, but I dont think it would be anything crazy. You've gotta remember both these guys were in their 50's at this point.
@PNW_Sportbike_LifeАй бұрын
Wow, Sam's putting stroke was wild
@msalzberg4962
Ай бұрын
The grass on the greens in those days was probably longer than the grass on the fairways the pros play on today. There were a lot of 'wristy' putters. Here's Billy Casper, one of the best putters of his era: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4x42dqGiLjWcpM.html
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
Now you can see why he went side saddle and even croquet style later on until they banned the croquet style. I never really noticed his putting stroke before but you are correct that shit is all over the place. I thought my stroke was bad. Lol
@jamesanthony568119 күн бұрын
Ben always looked stylish dressed simply in grey and white
@zeos386sxАй бұрын
2:22 RIP
@paulcarrigan691Ай бұрын
I don't think the WWOG was ever televised in Australia. I like the fore-caddies with the orange suits.....
@georgestevens300026 күн бұрын
I love these old golf shoes. The fact remains if you cannot properly swing the club the results will quickly be shown. Jack also could hit a one iron.
@alpistorАй бұрын
Please post as many Shells as you have. Thanks.
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
I’m trying to get my hands on some more!
@marksimpson2321
Ай бұрын
Agreed. They are an absolute delight. George Thomas is smooth. To anyone who knows, Gene knows the game inside out and we get to see some players who were regarded as the best in the 60s and were so good they are still regarded as the best 6 decades later . Sam played pretty well and Ben without even seeming to hole much best him by 3. 😊😂
@chriswick798716 күн бұрын
I think it goes to show that you work with your natural swing. To me it looks like Hogan never takes a “full” backswing. It’s the speed coming forward that counts
@dalewier9735Ай бұрын
The Astrodome is NOT EVEN COMPLETED in this video! When i saw it, all i could think of was the smell of the hamburgers they sold there. And yes, Slammin' Sammy has a swing that is unmistakable. 7,000 yards was long when you hit wooden drivers and irons that have a sweet spot the size of the tip of your little finger. I think i remember that the Colonial course in Ft. WORTH (Byron Nelson open) was 7200 in 65 and 7700 in 75.
@patrickdumass7611
Ай бұрын
The Colonial course is currently about 7300yds. The PGA tour is actually playing there next week. I don't think any course was 7700yds in 1975.
@dalewier9735
Ай бұрын
@@patrickdumass7611 I think you are correct, I thought about it afterwards. I know and watched an amateur who played in the pro-am in 79?. I just remember looking down some of the par 4s from the black tees... I hit it a long way back then, but man... 6 par 4s over 440 yards and a 585 yard and 635 yard par 5.
@zipcity6720
29 күн бұрын
7000 yards with those clubs and balls, and in Houston's low elevation and high humidity. That course was playing LONG. Modern equivalent would likely be well over 8k.
@dennissvitak547523 күн бұрын
Even $3,000 back then was a LOT.
@kevinwheeler3726Ай бұрын
just wondering: why do they seem to hit every iron shot with an open clubface? new to golf. different from what i'm used to seeing
@patrickdumass7611Ай бұрын
Would be great to see this without the screen being stretched to fit. They look 5ft tall and their swings look flatter than they were. Other videos of this match are the same unfortunately.
@jamesrav
Ай бұрын
if it can be downloaded then played on VLC I'm sure a proper aspect ratio can be found. I'm not even sure I can watch this, Snead's body looks freakish.
@marksimpson2321Ай бұрын
Hogan peppers the flag more than Ian Baker Finch in the latter's scorcher when he won the Open. From his record, I guess that was pretty typical for Hogan. Makes it look so easy
@foldohack5687Ай бұрын
7minutes in and still no golf shots
@georgestevens1502Ай бұрын
5 grand in those days was a lot for a golf match. In tournaments, guys who made the cut for the weekend but finished at the bottom of the heap would take home less than $100 bucks.
@johncassani6780
Ай бұрын
Absolutely. One of the biggest changes since Tiger came along has been that mediocre players, who may never win in their careers can still become very rich men.
@georgestevens1502
Ай бұрын
@@johncassani6780 Palmer did the same thing for golf back in the 60s to lift the top money higher back when $20,000 was a lot of money.
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
Yep. Jack Nicklaus cashed in $33.33 for a tie for 50th in 1962.
@georgestevens1502
Ай бұрын
@@Tom-ok2rh Ya Ya. Arnie helped the top end but not the bottom end.
@geoffhunt7965Ай бұрын
I’ve seen Bill Price of Towson Maryland play a mechanically perfect game similar to Ben Hogan.
@scottreiber6879Ай бұрын
It would be awesome to implement shot tracer to this video.
@butcho7492Ай бұрын
Google "Ben Hogan 1 iron". Epic.
@tomcusack884
Ай бұрын
Lee Trevino, Bobby Nichols, and Jerry Heard were hit by lightning at the Western Open in Chicago. When asked what he was doing after seeing lightning Mr. Trevino said he held up a 1 iron. Why, doesn't that act like a lightning rod? Mr. Trevino replied, 'Not even God can hit a 1 iron.
@wadeoden8464Ай бұрын
250+ yard drives on soft fairways and 190 yard 6 irons with those old clubs. I played with these kind of clubs when I was a kid in the 80's. Those 6 irons have the loft of today's 8 irons of course. I hit one drive 275 downhill when I was 15 and I thought I was headed to the PGA. How good were these guys? And how hard did they hit it? I would love to know if someone could find a way to estimate their club head speed. It had to be moving good to carry 250 with persimmons. Not to mention the old, wound golf balls. It also boggles my mind that modern players don't move their drives in both directions. Was Hogan that much more talented then them?
@TheMightySandow
Ай бұрын
You could be sure both players in their prime would be as long as the top pros today, given the same equipment. Especially Snead. He absolutely crushed it in his youth. Old drivers had a different weight distribution and characteristics that made it easier (and necessary) to work the ball. Balata balls spun like crazy not only on approaches but all the time. This helped a draw or a fade. Today with the giant heads it is almost impossible.
@Clyde__Frog
Ай бұрын
@@TheMightySandow Impossible to shape the ball with todays drivers? I beg to differ! You should see my slices haha
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
I played persimmon clubs back in the 70s which was only 10 years after this and I gotta believe they were hitting it past 250 yds. Today’s pros on a 7000 yd course would be driver wedge all day.
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
@@Clyde__Frog haha I agree..and I have to differ when they say the modern golf ball doesn’t curve that much. Sure curves for me. Lol
@williamdunphy35226 күн бұрын
Commentators: George Rogers & Gene Sazaren
@Clyde__FrogАй бұрын
crazy how slow the greens seem
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
They were much slower, which in my opinion is a little better than today because they hold more irons, but there's a better in between. Probably about 80's era is optimum green speed in my opnion. Fast enough that good steady putting is rewarded, slow enough that you dont have to use crazy spin to keep shots on the green. But remember it rained heavily during this match so greens were wet.
@Clyde__Frog
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 Thanks, POO CRAYON
@bb57365Ай бұрын
Enjoy these matches so much. Have no interest in the game they play today.
@zlatysmolaАй бұрын
When America wasn’t a shit hole
@joeydownunder2976Ай бұрын
The equivalent course length today given the equipment advances should mean 8,000 yard courses regularly for the pros. 21 under winning a major (‘24 PGA) is a joke.
@kennymacm3031Ай бұрын
7000 yards, that equipment and “those” trousers….. great stuff
@MikeLoggansАй бұрын
I’d like to slip in a ProV1 without those guys knowing.
@Redmenace96Ай бұрын
Here's the thing- Tiger Woods is indisputably the greatest golfer of All-Time. If I met him, I would say, "Tiger, keep firing!" If I met Ben Hogan I would not say anything, unless spoken to. He is royalty. "Thank you, Mr. Hogan!" would be the only words I could muster.
@johndickson9542
Ай бұрын
Nicklaus is the GOAT.
@Redmenace96
Ай бұрын
@@johndickson9542 Yah, yah. My dad and I watched most of his career, together. He is my emotional GOAT. I have to be objective, and forget money. Ben Hogan is not 2x better than Nicklaus. He is just 2% better in my mind. Obviously, if you catch me on a Sunday, I might say Jack. ha,ha!
@johndickson9542
Ай бұрын
@@Redmenace96 Hogan is not even in contention.
@wesleyhilde1Ай бұрын
$5000.. 😳😳
@cnrmooseАй бұрын
How did Hogan have 255 to the green on the 1st hole when it was only 443 yards? And he hit a 6 iron 255? Something not right.
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
I think them guys were hitting it well past 250
@davidshuff8838Ай бұрын
255 off the tee. My how things have changed. Not necessarily for the better in my opinion. No such thing as driver, sand wedge into 400 yard par fours. This is back when golf was really great.
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
Definetly not for the better - 255 yards is a long way, more than long enough to hit a golf ball.
@davidshuff8838
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 Yes back at that time those are considered long drives
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@davidshuff8838 Yeah - but I mean it's literally a long way. You walk 255 yards away and look back at the tee and that looks like a long way.
@davidshuff8838
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 But by today’s standards, Some guys hit irons that far
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@davidshuff8838 Todays irons yes. But its still a long way anyway you slice it. It's a long distance to stand and look from point A to B from. If your hitting the ball so far you can barely see it land on every other club and have to walk 100 more miles to play, whats the point? It's like using suped up metal baseball bats that hit the length of 2 stadiums then having to increase stadium size to play the same basic game, it's just so stupid that it reached this point.
@BernardGarcon25 күн бұрын
Sneed
@MrBigcityal16 күн бұрын
Hogan's pants look like long shorts😅
@zipcity672029 күн бұрын
Ben and Sam had a side bet on who could jack up the waist of their pants higher. Sam won by a few inches.
@ScratchyBawsАй бұрын
So nice the Great Game back then. Everybody well dressed and behaved and none of this getting drunk and shouting get in the hole like the YANKS keep screaming today in their horrible slurry drunk accents.
@FM-db3ft23 күн бұрын
Life will never be like this ever again, thank the Democrats from stripping us all of that dream.
@georgebrennan257622 күн бұрын
Snead if healthy,l could of won 20 majors.
@georgebrennan2576
10 күн бұрын
Oh wow
@markpalmer808319 күн бұрын
1965, when America was on the gold standard and had honest money that could not easily be corrupted and created for free, out of thin air, whilst other people have to work for it, thereby diluting the value of every dollar that they earn and own, thereby stealing the value of their life's work, effort and time from them. In 1971, that all changed and began the evil, thieving and corrupt fiat money standard. And look at America now! All roads lead to Bitcoin now. The most honest and incorruptible money that the World has ever had. That is inevitable.
@Arturo-sm1tbАй бұрын
Great golf game, terrible description of the god awful city of Houston.
@BustedSillsАй бұрын
Please tell me people didn’t dress like that!…bwahaha
@jimguy9874
Ай бұрын
Yes they did. People had class back then.
@jimguy9874
Ай бұрын
Also, nobody yelling stupid shit like, “Go in the hole” or “Baba Booey” or “ Mashed potato “ . People had class then and didn’t have to shout out stupid shit to make it all about themselves.
@EvanDahill
Ай бұрын
Some perspective: this was 59 years ago. From 1965 backward, that would make it 1906. Do you think style changed a bit from 1906 to 1965?
@davidfoster2006
Ай бұрын
They are playing golf not a fancy dress competition.
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I wasn't even alive, but this is so nostalgic and comforting. Even the intro exploring Houston in 1965 tugs at my soul.
@stevedriscoll2539
Ай бұрын
You said it Mike!
We use to have such a nice country. Its easy to see we are watching what is a lost civilization.
@senorstronk
16 күн бұрын
culture makers have culture bombed us all. i recently turned to gambling on golf and watching it more. sadly it's the only telecast you can watch now and it still feel somewhat how it once was. watching basketball or football on tv is over. too much rap music and culture bombing going on. it's over.
I wish I had been born in 1935 so in 1955 I would be 20. The mid 50’s in my opinion would have been a great time to be alive.
These guys are hitting it 260-265-270 off the tee with basically a piece of varnished two-by-one attached to a walking stick. Respect. Golf monsters!
@ddzielke
25 күн бұрын
And zero steroids.
@dennissvitak5475
23 күн бұрын
I was hitting my Persimmon driver 280 back in the mid 70's..but it took every bit of my 150 pounds to do it.
@jamesanthony5681
19 күн бұрын
With those golf balls.
If only golf was still this great! 😊
Loving these clips and George Rogers’ soothing, classic voice.
Fabulous to get to watch extended coverage of two of the very greatest golfers in history.
Never saw this show originally but I wish they would do a remake today.
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
They did a remake in the mid to late 90s
2 of some of the best swings in golf.
Thanks for putting this on KZread! It was cool to get a lesson from Hogan and Snead!!
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
No problem. It bothered me the full version wasn’t on here!
loved this series
Oh man, finally! I've been waiting years to see the full version of this. Thanks buddy.
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome. I was so upset the full version wasn’t on KZread, I had to buy the VHS on eBay and convert it. Then figured the world deserves to see this too!
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@WhereTheyPlayForPay I didn't even realise these were available on VHS. I'm looking through those I haven't seen now and thinking about ordering some that haven't already been uploaded. One of the Knudson matches and the one at Bamf springs were what got me started playing golf. Great stuff, best golf presentation ever in this Shell Series in my opinion, and this particular episode is a rare chance to see two of the all time greats from the pre TV era in color both still playing very well (In Hogans case on this day exceptionally well).
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 I believe a few were released on VHS ~30 years ago. I love George Knudson - thankfully many of his episodes are on KZread. I also just bought the book by Fred Raphael that goes over the history of the series!
@akeenamateur7844
Ай бұрын
This match is a real treasure, and now having the full version (and especially with lessons at the end) is awesome! Thanks for the upload!😊
Thank you for posting this. I should be watching the 2024 PGA championship, but I love this period and these players more.
@joeydownunder2976
Ай бұрын
21 under winning score - what a joke
Two of the Greats..Thanks Shell for this clip.....
I didn’t know they had such long par 3’s… The ladies look lovely in this video
Hogan hit every fairway and green in regulation, his shots never straying more than a few yards from their intended target. He did so with butter-knife blades and balata balls, at the age of 52. Some of his avid fans have said that if he'd had the putting game of his contemporaries like Casper, he'd have been shooting low 60s and even sub-60 every time he stepped up. IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground.
@johndickson9542
Ай бұрын
" IMHO, if he were playing today at his peak, he'd have ground most everyone into the ground." His ball striking was beyond compare. However, his putting was poor, by his own admission, and that would prevent him from grinding everyone today into the ground. He'd certainly hold his own, though.
@GreenDistantStar
Ай бұрын
@@johndickson9542 I agree, putting was his Achille's Heel. By 'grinding' I mean this. Hogan was frequently outdriven by his contemporaries. He ground them down by approach shots that put pressure on them. His consistency was the key to his success. It's very tricky to make generational comparisons. But I've an idea that with identical equipment, he would give any of today's players a tough time, especially in matchplay. If he had Jack or Tiger's putting game? Scary thought.
@msalzberg4962
Ай бұрын
It's worth noting that Hogan's left eye was damaged in the car accident, hurting the depth perception necessary for good putting.
@FabrisFanatic
Ай бұрын
@@msalzberg4962 indeed. He had impaired vision and significant nerve damage in his hands. It's astounding how well he did after the accident.
@msalzberg4962
Ай бұрын
@@FabrisFanatic Not to mention the constant pain in his legs. And yet he won 6 of 7 tournaments he entered in 1953, including 3 majors. Astounding, indeed.
Amazing! YT wins!! I didn't know this existed. Ben Hogan is my hero!!!!
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome 😂
I miss this America
@georgestevens3000
26 күн бұрын
We all do class of 65.
beautiful, wonderful golfers
Thanks for uploading this!!
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
I can’t even imagine hitting a 1-iron manufactured in 1960.
@LanceCampeau
Ай бұрын
I have a few... not that hard to hit... but they do require a a fair amount of club head speed and strike accuracy
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
My hands are stinging with just the thought and I haven’t even tried it yet. I had a one iron back in my younger days but it’s full steam ahead with hybrids nowadays. Lol
@user-ok9ue8gp6k
Ай бұрын
@@Tom-ok2rh Can you imagine trying to hit that club on a cold day?
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
@@user-ok9ue8gp6k we call those mis hits when it’s cold “stingers”😄😄
@louisbrugnoni7639
Ай бұрын
I can’t hit a 3 iron now. Lol
Unbelievable match, The Hawk vs The Slammer.
6 iron looked like the same loft as an 8 iron today.
@PNW_Sportbike_Life
Ай бұрын
it sure did
Hogan was THE master golfer and likely considered the greatest of All-Time if he didn't have that terrible car wreck. The man was a machine.
@georgebrennan2576
22 күн бұрын
Didn't use steroids or blood spinning whatever they call it
@Imknottshore
10 күн бұрын
9 of 16 majors that stretch with 6 majors after the wreck thats whats incredible
such gentleman
I'm a huge Hogan fan but I love Snead's tassled golf shoes!
Thank you for posting, I was wanting to see this since I was -5
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome
Thank you !
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome
So much better than any of today’s you tubers it’s laughable.
@sheedy9
Ай бұрын
These are two of the greatest ever...
@jeremyc9593
Ай бұрын
For napping, definitely
Good quality thanks slicky micky
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
lol. You’re welcome
This would be like playing with equipment from a thrift store 20 yrs ago. Amazing golf swings.
@dorothygale1104
Ай бұрын
This is the equipment that should still be used today and then you would know how much of the distance is due to technology and how much is die the skill of the player. Current pros hitting 350 yard drives with the current club technology and juiced balls is like pro baseball players being allowed to use metal bats and then crowing about how far they hit it or how many homers they hit. Nobody would buy that as legitimate, yet in golf the powers that be have allowed technology to take over the game. Aaron Judge hits his 450’ bombs with a stick of wood just like Ruth & Gehrig did.
@te_kagi
Ай бұрын
@@dorothygale1104 And to extrapolate further if I may, Ruth and Gehrig hit a ball that was a little different as well.
@misternewman1576
Ай бұрын
I keep hoping there will be an annual tournament just using vintage equipment like this, open to all the pro players. Call it the Vintage Open!
@1snaj
Ай бұрын
To say from a thrift store 20 years ago is being way too generous… lol
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@dorothygale1104 Exactly, it's ruined continuity within the game and many courses and the overall style of play (not to mention it looks cartoonish to see those big ass driver heads, they're like bumper bowling for golf). The metal drivers were first meant to be for women and the elderly so they could keep some pace with grown men - now we have the best of the grown men using models far easier to hit with than those meant to give worse players an advantage. It's a ridiculous situation which should never have happened.
Great video, how good were both swings!
What a great upload. Even the music was great. Loved the intro with the neighborhoods and background info. I know it’s been said over and over, but their talent was unreal. That old equipment, 7000 yards,….they could handle it. Sure, it’s been mentioned almost cliche and I’m doing it here, but fun to imagine what these two men would do with todays equipment and technology. The best today would still be incredible if they were given this old equipment to mind you.
@jbc1042
14 күн бұрын
And don't forget the technology of golf course management and conditions too!
Green Distant Star's comment is spot on. William Ben Hogan is the greatest shotmaker in the history of golf. That includes Jack Nicklaus, Ben Hogan, or any other player before or since!! What makes this clip so compelling is that Hogan, in this match, was absolutely brilliant. Even for Ben Hogan!! He hit every Fairway, Every Green. In doing so, his shots didn't vary 10 feet the entire day from the tee shot to the flag!! A true case study in the golfing genius of the "Wee Ice Mon." As the Scots referred to him. Even scarier is that Hogan in an average round was almost as good. Probably the most unbelievable golf stat I've ever heard is what Hogan accomplished in 1940, while winning three consecutive tournaments in North Carolina. In those 216 holes played, Hogan missed a total of two greens!! The average leader in GIR on the current tour is about 75 percent. How about 99 percent for Hogan?! What kept Jack and Tiger in the discussion for the greatest player was their superior putting. No one, NO ONE, controlled a golf ball like Ben Hogan. This great video is a timeless look at a genius like no other.
@aq7705
Ай бұрын
Moe Norman
@scottreiber6879
Ай бұрын
Lee Trevino.
@donaldschmidt2990
Ай бұрын
@scottreiber6879 We have to agree to disagree on this one. The Merry Mex was a solid number two. In the wonderful golf channel bio "Hogan" Trevino joked that "you had to turn sideways to see the flag because his golf ball covered it every time he hit it!! Their other similarity is in how rough they had it growing up. Trevino didn't have a home with electricity until he joined the Marines. Both outworked their peers in every way. "The greatest thing in golf is confidence," Trevino observed in Hogan. The more dirt you move, the more confidence you get." Both had another less fortunate similarity in their career. They both suffered terrible accidents. Hogan from a terrible car collision with a Greyhound bus. Trevino, decades later, was struck by lightning. It's easily the toughest pair ever to trod the links. Anytime. Anywhere.
@aq7705
Ай бұрын
Tiger had 2 car accidents. GOAT?
"Ben has hit his opening tee shot just a little bit right-to-left" 😄
This head-to-head format would be nice to repeat with some of today's Senior golfers. Shell is still around, too. They might sign on to be sponsor again. Other than the Majors, I'm not too interested in the big 4-day tourneys anymore. But I might watch a shorter one-day event like this, on youtube.
12:50 lightning strikes twice. Snead doesn’t even re-start his pre-shot routine. Just stripes it long and straight with a club that today would be size of a hybrid.
So damn cool!
Pure Class
Snead’s one iron is only useful on the kitchen table for us mere mortals.
Amazing how hard they have to hit those butts on those greens.
SHELL, let's get this show back on the road. First up: Padraig Harrington Vs Phil Mickelson played at The RIV. I'm waiting ⏳😁
“Par 72 and it’s a long baby playing 7,056 yards”. 😊 The PGA at Valhalla this year is 7,609 yards and is a par 71. Amazing what technology and player fitness has done to the game. I like the old days better though. Skill and a good golf noggin was required more than in today’s game.
@A-FrameWedge
Ай бұрын
The avg driving distance on PGA Tour in 1980 was 256 yards and I am positive it was lower by at least 10 yards in the 1960’s. The avg driving distance on PGA tour is about 300 yards. And all clubs are going much further because of the ball on irons, fwy woods. And Hogan and Snead were 52 years old so they were playing a course that was considered long by 1964 PGA tour standards. The U.S. Open at Congressional was 7056 yards and was the longest US Open course up until 1964
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
Aside from a few people really training speed I think it's mostly the tech. It's not just that the drivers (especially) hit further, you can also swing like crazy because you dont have to really middle the ball in a smaller sweet spot. There may be some distance increase without the tech because of players working out, but I dont think it would be anything crazy. You've gotta remember both these guys were in their 50's at this point.
Wow, Sam's putting stroke was wild
@msalzberg4962
Ай бұрын
The grass on the greens in those days was probably longer than the grass on the fairways the pros play on today. There were a lot of 'wristy' putters. Here's Billy Casper, one of the best putters of his era: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4x42dqGiLjWcpM.html
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
Now you can see why he went side saddle and even croquet style later on until they banned the croquet style. I never really noticed his putting stroke before but you are correct that shit is all over the place. I thought my stroke was bad. Lol
Ben always looked stylish dressed simply in grey and white
2:22 RIP
I don't think the WWOG was ever televised in Australia. I like the fore-caddies with the orange suits.....
I love these old golf shoes. The fact remains if you cannot properly swing the club the results will quickly be shown. Jack also could hit a one iron.
Please post as many Shells as you have. Thanks.
@WhereTheyPlayForPay
Ай бұрын
I’m trying to get my hands on some more!
@marksimpson2321
Ай бұрын
Agreed. They are an absolute delight. George Thomas is smooth. To anyone who knows, Gene knows the game inside out and we get to see some players who were regarded as the best in the 60s and were so good they are still regarded as the best 6 decades later . Sam played pretty well and Ben without even seeming to hole much best him by 3. 😊😂
I think it goes to show that you work with your natural swing. To me it looks like Hogan never takes a “full” backswing. It’s the speed coming forward that counts
The Astrodome is NOT EVEN COMPLETED in this video! When i saw it, all i could think of was the smell of the hamburgers they sold there. And yes, Slammin' Sammy has a swing that is unmistakable. 7,000 yards was long when you hit wooden drivers and irons that have a sweet spot the size of the tip of your little finger. I think i remember that the Colonial course in Ft. WORTH (Byron Nelson open) was 7200 in 65 and 7700 in 75.
@patrickdumass7611
Ай бұрын
The Colonial course is currently about 7300yds. The PGA tour is actually playing there next week. I don't think any course was 7700yds in 1975.
@dalewier9735
Ай бұрын
@@patrickdumass7611 I think you are correct, I thought about it afterwards. I know and watched an amateur who played in the pro-am in 79?. I just remember looking down some of the par 4s from the black tees... I hit it a long way back then, but man... 6 par 4s over 440 yards and a 585 yard and 635 yard par 5.
@zipcity6720
29 күн бұрын
7000 yards with those clubs and balls, and in Houston's low elevation and high humidity. That course was playing LONG. Modern equivalent would likely be well over 8k.
Even $3,000 back then was a LOT.
just wondering: why do they seem to hit every iron shot with an open clubface? new to golf. different from what i'm used to seeing
Would be great to see this without the screen being stretched to fit. They look 5ft tall and their swings look flatter than they were. Other videos of this match are the same unfortunately.
@jamesrav
Ай бұрын
if it can be downloaded then played on VLC I'm sure a proper aspect ratio can be found. I'm not even sure I can watch this, Snead's body looks freakish.
Hogan peppers the flag more than Ian Baker Finch in the latter's scorcher when he won the Open. From his record, I guess that was pretty typical for Hogan. Makes it look so easy
7minutes in and still no golf shots
5 grand in those days was a lot for a golf match. In tournaments, guys who made the cut for the weekend but finished at the bottom of the heap would take home less than $100 bucks.
@johncassani6780
Ай бұрын
Absolutely. One of the biggest changes since Tiger came along has been that mediocre players, who may never win in their careers can still become very rich men.
@georgestevens1502
Ай бұрын
@@johncassani6780 Palmer did the same thing for golf back in the 60s to lift the top money higher back when $20,000 was a lot of money.
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
Yep. Jack Nicklaus cashed in $33.33 for a tie for 50th in 1962.
@georgestevens1502
Ай бұрын
@@Tom-ok2rh Ya Ya. Arnie helped the top end but not the bottom end.
I’ve seen Bill Price of Towson Maryland play a mechanically perfect game similar to Ben Hogan.
It would be awesome to implement shot tracer to this video.
Google "Ben Hogan 1 iron". Epic.
@tomcusack884
Ай бұрын
Lee Trevino, Bobby Nichols, and Jerry Heard were hit by lightning at the Western Open in Chicago. When asked what he was doing after seeing lightning Mr. Trevino said he held up a 1 iron. Why, doesn't that act like a lightning rod? Mr. Trevino replied, 'Not even God can hit a 1 iron.
250+ yard drives on soft fairways and 190 yard 6 irons with those old clubs. I played with these kind of clubs when I was a kid in the 80's. Those 6 irons have the loft of today's 8 irons of course. I hit one drive 275 downhill when I was 15 and I thought I was headed to the PGA. How good were these guys? And how hard did they hit it? I would love to know if someone could find a way to estimate their club head speed. It had to be moving good to carry 250 with persimmons. Not to mention the old, wound golf balls. It also boggles my mind that modern players don't move their drives in both directions. Was Hogan that much more talented then them?
@TheMightySandow
Ай бұрын
You could be sure both players in their prime would be as long as the top pros today, given the same equipment. Especially Snead. He absolutely crushed it in his youth. Old drivers had a different weight distribution and characteristics that made it easier (and necessary) to work the ball. Balata balls spun like crazy not only on approaches but all the time. This helped a draw or a fade. Today with the giant heads it is almost impossible.
@Clyde__Frog
Ай бұрын
@@TheMightySandow Impossible to shape the ball with todays drivers? I beg to differ! You should see my slices haha
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
I played persimmon clubs back in the 70s which was only 10 years after this and I gotta believe they were hitting it past 250 yds. Today’s pros on a 7000 yd course would be driver wedge all day.
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
@@Clyde__Frog haha I agree..and I have to differ when they say the modern golf ball doesn’t curve that much. Sure curves for me. Lol
Commentators: George Rogers & Gene Sazaren
crazy how slow the greens seem
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
They were much slower, which in my opinion is a little better than today because they hold more irons, but there's a better in between. Probably about 80's era is optimum green speed in my opnion. Fast enough that good steady putting is rewarded, slow enough that you dont have to use crazy spin to keep shots on the green. But remember it rained heavily during this match so greens were wet.
@Clyde__Frog
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 Thanks, POO CRAYON
Enjoy these matches so much. Have no interest in the game they play today.
When America wasn’t a shit hole
The equivalent course length today given the equipment advances should mean 8,000 yard courses regularly for the pros. 21 under winning a major (‘24 PGA) is a joke.
7000 yards, that equipment and “those” trousers….. great stuff
I’d like to slip in a ProV1 without those guys knowing.
Here's the thing- Tiger Woods is indisputably the greatest golfer of All-Time. If I met him, I would say, "Tiger, keep firing!" If I met Ben Hogan I would not say anything, unless spoken to. He is royalty. "Thank you, Mr. Hogan!" would be the only words I could muster.
@johndickson9542
Ай бұрын
Nicklaus is the GOAT.
@Redmenace96
Ай бұрын
@@johndickson9542 Yah, yah. My dad and I watched most of his career, together. He is my emotional GOAT. I have to be objective, and forget money. Ben Hogan is not 2x better than Nicklaus. He is just 2% better in my mind. Obviously, if you catch me on a Sunday, I might say Jack. ha,ha!
@johndickson9542
Ай бұрын
@@Redmenace96 Hogan is not even in contention.
$5000.. 😳😳
How did Hogan have 255 to the green on the 1st hole when it was only 443 yards? And he hit a 6 iron 255? Something not right.
@Tom-ok2rh
Ай бұрын
I think them guys were hitting it well past 250
255 off the tee. My how things have changed. Not necessarily for the better in my opinion. No such thing as driver, sand wedge into 400 yard par fours. This is back when golf was really great.
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
Definetly not for the better - 255 yards is a long way, more than long enough to hit a golf ball.
@davidshuff8838
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 Yes back at that time those are considered long drives
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@davidshuff8838 Yeah - but I mean it's literally a long way. You walk 255 yards away and look back at the tee and that looks like a long way.
@davidshuff8838
Ай бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 But by today’s standards, Some guys hit irons that far
@poocrayon4588
Ай бұрын
@@davidshuff8838 Todays irons yes. But its still a long way anyway you slice it. It's a long distance to stand and look from point A to B from. If your hitting the ball so far you can barely see it land on every other club and have to walk 100 more miles to play, whats the point? It's like using suped up metal baseball bats that hit the length of 2 stadiums then having to increase stadium size to play the same basic game, it's just so stupid that it reached this point.
Sneed
Hogan's pants look like long shorts😅
Ben and Sam had a side bet on who could jack up the waist of their pants higher. Sam won by a few inches.
So nice the Great Game back then. Everybody well dressed and behaved and none of this getting drunk and shouting get in the hole like the YANKS keep screaming today in their horrible slurry drunk accents.
Life will never be like this ever again, thank the Democrats from stripping us all of that dream.
Snead if healthy,l could of won 20 majors.
@georgebrennan2576
10 күн бұрын
Oh wow
1965, when America was on the gold standard and had honest money that could not easily be corrupted and created for free, out of thin air, whilst other people have to work for it, thereby diluting the value of every dollar that they earn and own, thereby stealing the value of their life's work, effort and time from them. In 1971, that all changed and began the evil, thieving and corrupt fiat money standard. And look at America now! All roads lead to Bitcoin now. The most honest and incorruptible money that the World has ever had. That is inevitable.
Great golf game, terrible description of the god awful city of Houston.
Please tell me people didn’t dress like that!…bwahaha
@jimguy9874
Ай бұрын
Yes they did. People had class back then.
@jimguy9874
Ай бұрын
Also, nobody yelling stupid shit like, “Go in the hole” or “Baba Booey” or “ Mashed potato “ . People had class then and didn’t have to shout out stupid shit to make it all about themselves.
@EvanDahill
Ай бұрын
Some perspective: this was 59 years ago. From 1965 backward, that would make it 1906. Do you think style changed a bit from 1906 to 1965?
@davidfoster2006
Ай бұрын
They are playing golf not a fancy dress competition.
@tjhookit
Ай бұрын
Ok......they didn't dress like that.
Note how putting technique has changed so much.