Ben Franklin Bridge - abandoned/never used trolley line

From a WHYY special... the trolley line planned for use across the Ben Franklin bridge, never actualized. Pretty incredible footage, plus some cool blueprints/schematics showing the original plan. The stations are in the anchoring houses of the bridge!

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  • @0351nick-ch8ee
    @0351nick-ch8ee2 жыл бұрын

    I remember this one program with Derrick Pitts. They went around Philly and showed a lot of the underground history. Very interesting places and artifacts.

  • @0351nick-ch8ee

    @0351nick-ch8ee

    2 жыл бұрын

    A PBS series.

  • @twizz420
    @twizz42010 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love seeing things like this... The sort of things which have been long abandoned, and nearly nobody will ever see or even think of in their entire lives. Places which were abandoned and never used for their intended purpose are like hitting a gold mine to me.

  • @misterhot9163

    @misterhot9163

    7 жыл бұрын

    07CVPI you should check out the Cincinnati Subway. Great stuff!!

  • @Cartwright877

    @Cartwright877

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have read a lot of interesting info on Wikipedia about all of the Broad Street Subway branches that were never built

  • @Dragon-Slay3r

    @Dragon-Slay3r

    6 ай бұрын

    Ile have to watch Mr and Mrs Smith again 😭

  • @williamhouse7492
    @williamhouse74922 ай бұрын

    I have put my hands on those stone anchors from the outside. You can feel the tension energy coursing through the anchor structure! It’s an awesome sensation!

  • @MrErikcarlsen
    @MrErikcarlsen6 жыл бұрын

    Shame they don't give tours. I live right next to the bridge and it's an engineering marvel even to this day.

  • @buzzbrayable

    @buzzbrayable

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd pay to see this up close.

  • @a.j.fisher813

    @a.j.fisher813

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree it would be awesome to have tours. Which side are you on? Philly or NJ?

  • @mikew12261

    @mikew12261

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would love that!!

  • @mashintotters858

    @mashintotters858

    3 жыл бұрын

    So quickly

  • @jeffgolden253

    @jeffgolden253

    2 жыл бұрын

    They DID give tours ... in 2001 for the 75th anniversary of the bridge. Let's see what happens in 2026 for the 100th.

  • @TheDylanJoyce
    @TheDylanJoyce9 жыл бұрын

    I say get back to work and finish that damn terminal... MORE TROLLEYS!

  • @eirugsiongriffiths8563

    @eirugsiongriffiths8563

    8 жыл бұрын

    Why don't they have a modern street car system running in the underground basement,such as the new street car system which has just opened in Pennsylvania.

  • @jeffgolden253

    @jeffgolden253

    2 жыл бұрын

    No more trolleys ever again. In the 1940s and 50s, to sell more cars, General Motors bought up trolley systems all over the U.S., scrapped the cars, and tore up the tracks. Philadelphia is one of the few cities with remnants of its old trolley lines still running.

  • @nickpool1060

    @nickpool1060

    5 ай бұрын

    They did. It's called the PATCO line

  • @DonOwnsYou
    @DonOwnsYou16 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting these WHYY specials on Philadelphia, I saw this show a few years ago and enjoyed it. :)

  • @philosopher1a
    @philosopher1a2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing engineering was done in the early 20th century freaking awesome and hard working people

  • @jonathanclark2072
    @jonathanclark20728 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing a huge space like that on prime real estate has never been used.

  • @priscillachapkylo934

    @priscillachapkylo934

    5 жыл бұрын

    Truly wouldn't want uses up empty space as storage unit.

  • @samsonsimpson7648

    @samsonsimpson7648

    3 жыл бұрын

    probably is but for shit they don't want people to know about

  • @HJCF0520
    @HJCF05209 жыл бұрын

    I live near Philadelphia and use the Ben Franklin Bridge a lot. This was amazing. I will always think of the bridge differently!

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape14 жыл бұрын

    Back when I was in high school my cross country coach used one practice each season for us to run across this bridge from Camden to Philly and back. Really cool.

  • @geoffvids1965
    @geoffvids19654 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome! I've walked across the BFB many times. Never knew this was here! Thanks for posting!

  • @hootinouts
    @hootinouts15 жыл бұрын

    This excellent! I've always wanted to see the inside of this bridge and now I have. What an engineering masterpiece.

  • @Musicradio77Network
    @Musicradio77Network5 жыл бұрын

    Manhattan Bridge has a different stone anchorage as this one, but I’ve never been on this bridge before. I usually took the Manhattan Bridge when I was young, and I have never been there in years. The anchorage on the Manhattan Bridge looks almost similar to what it looked on the Ben Franklin Bridge which was 18 years later. It had a row of columns where it goes into the cables.

  • @Satters
    @Satters2 жыл бұрын

    "people didn't want to ride trollies, they wanted to ride buses" balderdash, the municplal authorities decided to run buses instead

  • @JohnThomas-lq5qp

    @JohnThomas-lq5qp

    8 күн бұрын

    I rode the route 56 trolley in high school. Was late every timed it rained and would often have to wait 5 minutes because a nogoodnic double parked and went into a store or a house. Only good thing about trollies they never got stuck in snow.

  • @danpetitpas
    @danpetitpas11 жыл бұрын

    Wow! This video is amazing! Thanks for putting it up!

  • @gregoryhill7553
    @gregoryhill75533 жыл бұрын

    Scary & Great at the same time, ... Loving it !!!

  • @Klendathue
    @Klendathue15 жыл бұрын

    I saw the last part of this on WHYY and had always wished that I had not missed the beginning. Thanks WhollyGhost for posting it.

  • @AssumesAllRisks
    @AssumesAllRisks11 жыл бұрын

    This vid is awesome! Thanks for the upload!!!

  • @garymckee8857
    @garymckee88574 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video I've been over that bridge many times when working in that area and paid many tolls.

  • @LiterallyGod
    @LiterallyGod2 жыл бұрын

    So the cables inside the ben frank could wrap around the equator. Nice.

  • @cfreak99
    @cfreak9914 жыл бұрын

    wow. very interesting video. Just the schematics from the begining was amazing to see. I so love street-secrets

  • @rockyrovere2526
    @rockyrovere25263 жыл бұрын

    I’ve driven uncountable times and walked many also. Born and raised in Camden. WOW !!!! Peace, Rocky

  • @Pickinbuddy
    @Pickinbuddy14 жыл бұрын

    If that was in New York City--they would've made it into 1 million dollar condos...

  • @CMDUrbanTactics

    @CMDUrbanTactics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or rental space for restaurants and merchants

  • @murcuryvapor
    @murcuryvapor14 жыл бұрын

    I love stuff like this. Thanks!

  • @treaty92
    @treaty924 жыл бұрын

    I worked on the bridge for nine years.

  • @supersuperwendy
    @supersuperwendy11 жыл бұрын

    I saw this on tv once... or something similar... I think about it everytime I take that bride to or from NJ

  • @JCT442
    @JCT4422 жыл бұрын

    Derrick Pitts is a Philadelphia treasure...

  • @PaulBobnak
    @PaulBobnak4 жыл бұрын

    BTW, the host of this show is Derrick Pitts, Chief Astronomer and Director of the Fels Planetarium at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia

  • @sarcrazy530
    @sarcrazy5302 жыл бұрын

    Wow they were really forward-thinking with that bridge, unlike the Walt Shitman bridge

  • @WhollyGhost
    @WhollyGhost16 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! Let's hope that our world is still here in 2026!

  • @yolandajohnson8685

    @yolandajohnson8685

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hello!!!! It's 2020 and 2026 is only 6years away

  • @chrisgmay16

    @chrisgmay16

    6 ай бұрын

    2 more years

  • @jeffgolden253
    @jeffgolden2532 жыл бұрын

    You didn't adequately explain the pedestrian areas in the towers. They weren't just for pedestrians crossing the bridge. They were trolley stations for 2 tracks on each side of the bridge. There were elevators to get up to them from street level. The current extreme right side traffic lane on each side were originally built to be trolley tracks. The outside trolley track on each side is now for the PATCO high speed line commuter train.

  • @pforce9
    @pforce94 жыл бұрын

    When I was in the sixth grade, Ritchie Mozitis, Joey Cheladic and I, ran across the bridge traffic on Vine street for the sole purpose of seeing what was on this island.

  • @pigenital
    @pigenital13 жыл бұрын

    @dpjaexp It's slightly more complicated, in that clean new buses were replacing dirty old streetcars. So people did want to ride buses, but it was because of the decisions of the transit companies to buy buses rather than streetcars. The PCC streetcars that run on Route 15 were an attempt to stem the tide in the 1930s by designing a modern streetcar.

  • @kittyliter008
    @kittyliter00814 жыл бұрын

    unbelievable, always wondered about this

  • @Dadnielele
    @Dadnielele15 жыл бұрын

    Looks very awsome,

  • @josef27
    @josef2712 жыл бұрын

    The music is amazing.

  • @merccadoosis8847
    @merccadoosis8847 Жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal report. The in depth reporting of all that engineering is almost beyond belief. Very striking photography of all that wiring. A question ~ due to the extraordinary depth of the internal anchorage, were there any fatalities or injuries arising from lack of air or because of atmospheric pressure? In Brooklyn, NY when the Brooklyn Bridge was being constructed there were many unfortunate circumstances of workers not getting enough air or insulation against atmospheric conditions and some, sad to say, suffered fatal consequences. I hope there were not any similar events there in Philly.

  • @a.j.fisher813
    @a.j.fisher8134 жыл бұрын

    Wow that's so interesting

  • @WhollyGhost
    @WhollyGhost16 жыл бұрын

    "Secrets Beneath The Streets"

  • @donmoore7785
    @donmoore77853 жыл бұрын

    A little confused on the anchorages at the ends - the building goes down "several hundred feet" but the footers go 130 feet below the "surface". Data elsewhere says the bridge is 130 above mean water level and deepest footing is about 100 feet, so "several hundred" looks to be about 230.

  • @Perririri
    @Perririri3 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the guy a WHYY astronomer, as well as an interviewer?

  • @obtusemuse
    @obtusemuse12 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Oren. I always wondered what the the the tiles were that I saw every time we drove over the bridge!

  • @dingorex
    @dingorex17 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of that place near the city we visited on or about 1970-1998 or thereabouts to some certainty wow what an almost like adventure with those thing there cannot be expressed written-like you know wow what a thing.

  • @thedarkchild86
    @thedarkchild8612 жыл бұрын

    WOW ... WHO WOULD HAD THOUGHT ....SO MANY HIDDEN THINGS ABOUT THAT BRIDGE AND PHILADELPHIA ....

  • @liltoaster7308
    @liltoaster73088 жыл бұрын

    I go over this bridge sometimes to get to the shore.

  • @musicom67
    @musicom6712 жыл бұрын

    Loved the extra education with the calcium deposits... "These are stalag-MITES, and these are...." LOL. Now how about thinking about how that leakage may one day make the decking fall in if not kept in good repair (which I'll assume it is).

  • @rockyrovere2526

    @rockyrovere2526

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m certainly far from a genius, but I just happened to run across your comment .In this case and in every case I know, they’re not formed from structural damage or weakness.As in all compositions of rock,(in this case concrete +other stone ) the combination of calcium, natural material,(dirt), moisture, lime, expansion +contraction for not for that the structure would collapse and all kinds of Twilight Zone shit is what happens. What he didn’t say was that this was not natural , but man-made. Peace, Rocky

  • @rockyrovere2526

    @rockyrovere2526

    3 жыл бұрын

    By the way ,mate ,by the time the one up and the one down touch,thisfriggin planet won’t be worth a shit. Peace, Rocky

  • @UsernameStillPending
    @UsernameStillPending11 жыл бұрын

    R.I.P. right ear....

  • @Perririri

    @Perririri

    3 жыл бұрын

    ree

  • @tingdzinkochu
    @tingdzinkochu6 жыл бұрын

    Deep!

  • @WhollyGhost
    @WhollyGhost15 жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @ElementofKindness
    @ElementofKindness6 жыл бұрын

    [sigh] I wish I could have been around during the era of trolley service. I know of numerous abandoned trolley grades and bridge abutments, and even re-purposed buildings originally for trolley service. I can barely remember the once small town I am originally from, having a two car train service, and as neat as that was, it's still not as amazing as trolley service must have been.

  • @FadkinsDiet

    @FadkinsDiet

    10 ай бұрын

    The town my mom grew up in still has a trolley barn -- it is used as a parking garage for the town garbage trucks.

  • @jasonw833
    @jasonw8332 жыл бұрын

    By the 1920's they were past the pick and shovels stage, they were using high capacity steam powered shovel loaders and very primitive gas powered shovels.

  • @findingnino
    @findingnino11 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you

  • @Barskor1
    @Barskor110 жыл бұрын

    +RandyGent Well Randy as long as your lover/s gets it regularly and it satisfies them all is well.

  • @hongvo2915

    @hongvo2915

    8 жыл бұрын

    redbox

  • @alden5931
    @alden59316 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm... the river line could go over, into a tunnel, and connect with Subway surface lines... the SEPTA trolleys would still loop at city hall, and the river line would, too, but they would basically meet in the middle... just an idea

  • @RRansomSmith

    @RRansomSmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nope. Different track gauges and RiverLINE cars are wider. Not to mention, SEPTA and NJT don't get along

  • @TheSamson50
    @TheSamson5011 жыл бұрын

    my left ear loved his video. greedy bastard D:

  • @nhoverhaulinfan2
    @nhoverhaulinfan217 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, they should open the cave area and walkways

  • @dragoncrackers7660
    @dragoncrackers76606 жыл бұрын

    The city could use the old trolley station to store city equipment, like trucks or even just salt. Put old cargo containers down there and you've got great nonperishable storage. I bet they got some overstuffed city yard somewhere and just cant figure out where to put everything.

  • @richw.6296
    @richw.62962 жыл бұрын

    I always thought there should have been a rail line that spanned the Franklin. I also wondered what what is inside the structures.

  • @benschwartz6565

    @benschwartz6565

    Жыл бұрын

    There is the Patco, but I agree that there should be more. I live in Rhawnhurst and I think it's horrible that there is no public transportation that goes over the Tacony Palmyra Bridge or anything along NJ 73

  • @ianandolsek6851
    @ianandolsek68516 жыл бұрын

    How do you get in here?

  • @KennethDAstonJr
    @KennethDAstonJr5 жыл бұрын

    The PATCO High Speed line goes by an abandoned PATCO Stop on the Philly side, wonder if they are conneted

  • @RRansomSmith

    @RRansomSmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    Franklin Square. They're close if not connected

  • @joshuasnore3600

    @joshuasnore3600

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s the same system. If you take a strong flash light and put it up to the glass you can see how far it goes.

  • @wkat950
    @wkat95012 жыл бұрын

    This'd be good for an apocalypse/disaster shelter.

  • @dvd215
    @dvd21516 жыл бұрын

    Whats the name of this special

  • @LiterallyGod
    @LiterallyGod2 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know a secret way in?

  • @knsummers
    @knsummers17 жыл бұрын

    awesome - mr.rogers meets squatters. reminds me of teenage mutant ninja turtles II

  • @Dragon-Slay3r
    @Dragon-Slay3r6 ай бұрын

    Deploy the nansen canabis! 😭

  • @karenwomble2640
    @karenwomble26403 жыл бұрын

    Myself,along with my 3 children walked across that snow covered bridge in the middle of winter to Camden,NJ to the VOA 1980.My husband met us after work from the NavyYard.My husband being a Vet was denied home ownership in Philly.We were treated like dirt.A family wanting to do the right thing.Never drank,used drugs.My dear children persevered,one is a State Trooper.

  • @WhollyGhost
    @WhollyGhost15 жыл бұрын

    From no where to nowhere to now here.

  • @PmMidnight
    @PmMidnight13 жыл бұрын

    Lavar Burton?

  • @Gaeilgeoir
    @Gaeilgeoir14 жыл бұрын

    It's kind of a shame they didn't open the bridge up to pedestrians, like the Golden Gate.

  • @RRansomSmith

    @RRansomSmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    Um yeah they did

  • @hop208
    @hop20813 жыл бұрын

    They'll probably have to finish it eventually out of necessity.

  • @Pisti846
    @Pisti84612 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't look like they maintain the trolley tunnels too good. A lot of rust there.

  • @RRansomSmith

    @RRansomSmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not a Trolley tunnel

  • @ohmyblindman
    @ohmyblindman4 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to have to disagree with the statement at 2:01 that people would rather ride busses instead of trolleys. Especially back in the late teens and early twenties, rail is always smoother, quicker and safer; everyone knows that.

  • @jeffgolden253

    @jeffgolden253

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Nobody especially wanted busses. They wanted cars, but couldn't afford them during the 1930s depression, and they weren't built during World War II. Beginning in 1950s, as suburbs sprung up, people wanted cars. General Motors helped them along by buying up trolley lines and scrapping them.

  • @ivanoffw

    @ivanoffw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, no one ever WANTS to ride the bus unless it is the only option available. In some cities the owners replaced the trains with busses to remove competition, or like today, it is simply cheaper, hence the advent of Bus Rapid Transit.

  • @Gaeilgeoir
    @Gaeilgeoir14 жыл бұрын

    @Deadkittens22 WOW! Really?? :D

  • @TVwriter23
    @TVwriter2315 жыл бұрын

    You have to remember this was a different time. They didn't have buses etc. that catered to disabled people.

  • @priscillachapkylo934
    @priscillachapkylo9345 жыл бұрын

    Whoa this coolest about facts about the city's bridge in education way thanks old saying goes never too old learn something new.

  • @1970CrazyChris
    @1970CrazyChris12 жыл бұрын

    Huell Howser eat your heart out!

  • @onrr1726
    @onrr17264 жыл бұрын

    It's to bad the trolley station can't be repurposed as some sort of underground strip malls similar to like what has taken place in both western and eastern Europe.

  • @tryithere
    @tryithere14 жыл бұрын

    Nice video but that has to be the stupidest statue I've ever seen.

  • @RRansomSmith

    @RRansomSmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    A lightning bolt in reference to the bridges namesake? Tell how you could do better?

  • @masluxx
    @masluxx14 жыл бұрын

    volume is way too low i can not hear it

  • @RandyGent
    @RandyGent11 жыл бұрын

    To quote Winston Churchill, "We are two great nations separated by a common language." In the US, "trolley" is used much more commonly than "tram" for a commuter train-like conveyance. In the US, we use a "supermarket cart", or, more commonly, "cart" for what the Brits call a "trolley." BTW, here in the US, I bet few people "get" my username, RandyGent ;-)

  • @billcwiklinski4594
    @billcwiklinski45943 жыл бұрын

    These areas should used to teach our future tradesmen !!! We need more tradesmen and less liberal arts students!

  • @MrRonfelder
    @MrRonfelder12 жыл бұрын

    He ddin't say nobody like to ride buses. He by the time the bridge opend people wanted to ride buses not trolleys.

  • @scaramouche8244
    @scaramouche82444 жыл бұрын

    Funny, science says stalagmites take millions of years to form

  • @beotch419
    @beotch41912 жыл бұрын

    How come the homeless people haven't found out about it?

  • @RRansomSmith

    @RRansomSmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    Locked tight. DRPA ain't playing that.

  • @AllanLoveJr
    @AllanLoveJr11 жыл бұрын

    So why keep it abandoned? Why not build office spaces there. Do something with it. Don't leave it empty.

  • @tonytwostep_
    @tonytwostep_3 жыл бұрын

    Bruh there's plenty of stalagmites in the freakin subway too, shit is pretty normal

  • @johnboys4697
    @johnboys46974 жыл бұрын

    Philadelphia won’t do anything about these great spaces Pathetic

  • @TVwriter23
    @TVwriter2315 жыл бұрын

    black people had the NAACP, but that didn't stop ignorance. It's changing mindsets (people chaning their own mind) not government mandated programs. They might help enforcing something, but mindsets changing is what really brings change.