You cut out a vital part of that video where Sam Harris makes it clear that he doesn`t mean ALL muslims. Your whole video is based on bad editing from your own part. What Sam Harris means isn`t that ALL muslims are bad, but that islam as a religion is more dangerous than other religions. You know that and that makes this video even more embarassing from your part.

@dealaxim

8 жыл бұрын

+Bjørnar Iversen Agreed.

@QuigonJoel

8 жыл бұрын

The edit is how they indoctrinate the weak.

@eliasnavytanga

8 жыл бұрын

+Bjørnar Iversen Dangerous in which way? Because it hasn't evolved to fit with modern western life? Should we say, Islam still the only religion that hasn't lost it's cause or roots? I mean Judaism in the time of Moses is not the Judaism of today. Same goes to Christianity.

@TheHecg

8 жыл бұрын

are you serious ? did you watch the video? and have you read the bible? just take a seat one day and read itm

@bjovers1

8 жыл бұрын

+Hector Gonzalez The differences are first of all that chrisitanity do have a new testament and several reforms of christianity that has "modernized" the religion. Islam has a problem and that is that it`s still a medival violent religion.

Why do people defend Islam but hate on Christianity?

@mkcd2010

8 жыл бұрын

Affleck is an idiot

@mkcd2010

8 жыл бұрын

So is whoever this guy is

@BelieveNoGod

8 жыл бұрын

+MKCD 20 Because they are totally confused ?

@wasabimanic

8 жыл бұрын

+MKCD 20 Check out Eric Allen Bell. He clearly explains how / why the supposedly liberal SJW mind follows a default rationale. That is to say white male privilege is the problem. all the worlds problems can be traced back to that demographic. That is why Left wing groups champion alternative cultures, why the SWP in UK march alongside Islamist groups chanting and bearing banners " "WE ARE ALL HEZZBOLLAH NOW !" Hollywood Establishment have blacklisted ERIC for exposing the real truth as opposed to the Holywood Michael Moore "truth".

@yahyakamel4182

8 жыл бұрын

I defend Islam Christianity and Jewdasium against who ever goes against them and I'm a Muslim.

Ben Affleck = human being

@RobertEdwinHouse9

5 жыл бұрын

Ben affleck=idiot

@livium9184

5 жыл бұрын

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 your equation is perfectly balanced.

@trufantom21

5 жыл бұрын

Ben Affleck = arrogant human being

@thegreypill9507

5 жыл бұрын

@@trufantom21 but still he is a human being

@thegreypill9507

5 жыл бұрын

May be our community brothers Muslims are wrong about their tradition and culture but we can't say that they are wrong and we can correct them that's the right thing. I am an Indian. In India here there is so many religions are there including Hindus and Muslims as majority. Think about a situation what happen when these communities started to blame each other for their religious practices, there will be war. I think Ben Affleck was right because he doesn't want his Muslim brothers to harassed. He did the right thing.

50k /41k. Polarised for sure.

@ITSAULGONE

3 жыл бұрын

What do you think?

@henocksherlock3340

4 ай бұрын

​@@ITSAULGONEbecause tyt is a hack, tries to inject their cliché narrative again, which why their videos these days switched to "newest first"

Ben Affleck needs to actually go to the middle east.

@7dashti

8 жыл бұрын

+FusRoDah2 he should! :] im sure he'll love it

@7dashti

8 жыл бұрын

+FusRoDah2 he should! :] im sure he'll love it

@haithamalhabsi5017

8 жыл бұрын

you need to go to the middle east...ben have been here several times maybe if u come here for a couple of days you will change your god damned bigot views

@zigmund8

8 жыл бұрын

+FusRoDah2 I'm sure he has been to Dubai and stayed in a 5 star hotel and now acts like he is an expert in middle eastern culture.

@FusRoDah2

8 жыл бұрын

***** It sad how someone can be so blind to the reality of the world that they live in.

iam muslim and I dont belaive in ISIS as muslims we love peace I love u all :(

@RandomPlaythrough831

8 жыл бұрын

Bill maher said you do ! LIAR !

@marquisstewart2904

8 жыл бұрын

if only most people would have the heart to believe you. I just wish everyone could just live in peace.

@newbooksmell4163

8 жыл бұрын

Damn, calm down and watch some cat videos or something... I feel like a hippie saying this but; preach love, not war . :/

@fewcarsgarage

8 жыл бұрын

bullshit. ISIS=Islam

@howardbinwek3252

8 жыл бұрын

Orlando massacre = islam

"We cannot conflate a criticism of Islam with Islamophobia." 4mins in, he promptly conflates the two. This channel is such swill, honestly.

@ryanmoore6259

4 жыл бұрын

No he doesn't

@thereisapricetoeverything4377

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Moore he absolutely does misrepresent his points, clearly in the clip he speaks about people conflating the two yet cent consistently makes false equivalencies as well as skewing data from cherry picked information. This show is so inconsistent it has become trash

@GontesBrowneye

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@0mer870

4 жыл бұрын

" 'Muslim extremism' is not extreme among Muslims. Mainstream Islam itself represents an extremist rejection of intellectual honesty, gender equality, secular politics and genuine pluralism. The truth about Islam is as politically incorrect as it is terrifying: Islam is all fringe and no center. " __ Sam harris Oh, he's so misunderstood guys. He's not a bigot. Stop with the lies, just prefacing your bigoted/racist remakes with saying "I'm not racist, but.." does not exempt you form being seen as one for really obvious reasons.

@thereisapricetoeverything4377

4 жыл бұрын

0mer no he’s not misunderstood merely misrepresented by afleck who attempts to conflate two separate criticisms of Islam as an ideology. Islam is not equal to muslims, however while you call him a bigot do you deny the truth within his statements. Does Islam not contradict gender equity and lead to oppression of women? Seems to me the facts show that women are almost always oppressed or abused within Muslim nations, what about religious freedom when many belief apostates should be killed or punished? Let’s be real Islam as a religion or ideology does have extremist tendencies that continue to pervade the governments who institute its laws, I guess it’s just a coincidence Saudi Arabia has barely begun to allow women to drive themselves.

" We have to be able to criticize bad ideas." True statement.

@jacuzzihot

4 ай бұрын

The Talmud is a lot worse than the Koran.

Sam Harris is a genius who has studied this stuff for years. He says its the motherload of bad ideas because it fucking is! You don't see modern Christians doing the things that modern Muslims are doing. And even so Sam is no stranger to ripping apart Christians either. This guy knows his shit, I mean he's a decorated neuroscientist with a tremendous amount of insight for fuck sake. Who the fuck is Ben Affleck but a second choice for bat man? Sam Harris has got more knowledge and intelligence in his pinky than anyone else at that table combined. Cenk is so wrong here, unbelievably wrong. Like how many times are you gonna straw man his arguments. Cenk is a smart man but I find it hard to believe that he is really this incapable of understanding what Harris is trying to say. Sam clearly is not generalizing all Muslim, he is criticizing the belief system and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that because the belief system fucking sucks. He's not saying anything about Muslims that he wouldn't say about Christians.

@mr.sir.86

9 жыл бұрын

does Sam harris know the arabic language? does he know the qur'an and the bible word for word like the back of his hand? no? then your entire argument falls apart bud. more knowledge than a full full fledged Muslim my ass.

@Sims3loserTheAwkwardSimmer

9 жыл бұрын

SIRcrapsalot McCummingtons Omg have you read the whole bible??? Do you speak full latin? Sorry your argument fails, you can't criticize the pope when he covers up child rape...

@abgpisang

9 жыл бұрын

got a question,how do u know that everything sam harris said are true?

@mastttt91

9 жыл бұрын

Sims3loser, The Awkward Simmer Thats completely different on the one hand your criticizing an entire group of people because of their beliefs (muslims) and are stating that the religion itself is inherently wrong when you actually no nothing about it. On the other hand your criticizing individuals (the pope) for their actions and not their beliefs. Its perfectly okay to criticize muslims who behead people, but its not okay to conflate all muslims with this image. No rational person thinks all catholics rape children.

@SDG.12

9 жыл бұрын

how is that region a motherload of bad ideas, when we created and funded most of the hardline terrorists because we couldn't stand socialism???? It's a case of chickens coming back home to roost.

Ben Affleck, a two-time college dropout, criticizing Sam Harris. That is hilarious.

@johnwaterhouse5906

8 жыл бұрын

Yes, because as history has shown, dropping out of college means you are a less intelligent person. Well, when you eliminate Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Oprah Winfrey, F. Scott Fitzgerald, John Lennon, and Walt Disney...too just name a few

@odins_claw

8 жыл бұрын

+JohnWaterhouse Oprah Winfrey? Careful dude your heros are showing

@googleuser7771

8 жыл бұрын

+JohnWaterhouse Go on, name some more? Oh they are only a tiny proportion of successful people? Weird... Maybe you should have taken a statistics course hahaha

@johnwaterhouse5906

8 жыл бұрын

+Oli Archy So your response to my statement that a college education is not necessary to being an intellectual human, is that I did not name enough people? You say I should study statistics? Hmm... very intelligent response

@QuigonJoel

8 жыл бұрын

+JohnWaterhouse lmao college equates to intelligence... smh

He didn’t say “all of them”. Stop lying.

@MainstreamPoPsucks3

3 жыл бұрын

No, he did not. However Ben said that no muslim in the world hold those beliefs.

@hitchensrazor9538

3 жыл бұрын

@@MainstreamPoPsucks3 Bruh I think we’re on the same side here.

@MainstreamPoPsucks3

3 жыл бұрын

@@hitchensrazor9538 I did not contradict you. I added to your comment.

@hitchensrazor9538

3 жыл бұрын

@@MainstreamPoPsucks3 Oh gosh sorry 😐

@chrisman10485

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what TYT does.

I served in the Gulf War and Iraq, but I didn't find any of what people were talking about. They were ordinary people with semi-free thinking, and it wasn't the hostility that people were talking about

@shimantohassan8925

3 жыл бұрын

@Uditya Tyagi Yes every sentimental would do so . I support you . I am personally a secular religious. Even in INDIA we saw people were killed because of accusation of carrying Cow meat. LOL

@TengahSleep

3 жыл бұрын

@Uditya Tyagi OK rock believers

@TengahSleep

3 жыл бұрын

@Uditya Tyagi just please stop hating other religions please bro. I’m sickened with it. You don’t eat meat we don’t eat pork. You worship cow while we worship Muhammad as our prophet. Respect ✌🏻

@thenamelesschannel2334

3 жыл бұрын

They’re talking about the opposition to homosexuality/women’s rights in Islam.

@hamodhossain4261

Жыл бұрын

@@TengahSleep what r u talking about we don't worship Muhammad .. Mohamad is prophet not a god we worship god only .. r u sure u r a Muslim ?

did anyone else unsubscribe from TYT years ago when you got out of your teen years and realized that these people are not the intellectual and unbiased people you actually thought they were?

@jasonkone2221

7 жыл бұрын

Yea they're basically the liberal version of Fox News and I consider myself liberal, just can't take their BS and this whole regressive left movement it's infuriating to anyone with a brain. It's become like a game of tag when you're a child and there was home base where as long as you were there you were safe and couldn't be touched. Certain topics have become that way to these people like Islam, gender issues, certain racial issues, all things I support tolerance and equality with, but it's like these topics are "home base" and if you're touching them no one can argue you

@theblueadventurer615

7 жыл бұрын

I always thought of them as stupid liberal dweebs, never tool them seriously, honestly.

@zachfakelastname

7 жыл бұрын

Jesse Compton why are you here if you don't like them

@ruefullysage

7 жыл бұрын

Jesse Compton yes. 😌

@GustavsMiscellany

7 жыл бұрын

Sweet. Im 17, never subbed to them, and have considered them exactly that, liberal fox news. Score one for me? Brownie points for being ahead of the curve?

Remember, all religions are equally bad! That's why so many cartoonists fear for their lives when making fun of Jesus or the Catholic Church. Oh.

@g0atboy207

9 жыл бұрын

Very well said.

@AWEsumJJman

9 жыл бұрын

SmithsnMoz I think that's the joke

@wladdaimpala88

9 жыл бұрын

SmithsnMoz The Smiths are good but your sarcasm detector is off man lol

@pinball1970

9 жыл бұрын

I would check out the reaction to "Life of Brian." released in 1979 when the UK was a lot less liberal. What was the Christian reaction? Bearing in mind this was a full length feature film depicting someone getting mistaken for jesus with jesus appearing in the film intermittently? With Brian getting laid at one point? Getting crucified at the end of the film by mistake? Christians made PEACEFUL protest and to my knowledge not one life was lost. Compare this to the baying blood thirsty mobs who killed over a hundred people as a response to the Danish cartoons.

@sharky0922

9 жыл бұрын

SmithsnMoz "SCARCASM ALERT" for you , you stupid FUCK

the audience claps and WOWs either way 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@alex-qd6of

4 жыл бұрын

Different audience members

@dreamrestore213

2 жыл бұрын

Good job missing the point

@adamgrimsley2900

2 жыл бұрын

Ermm...it's not the Borg

@piann5161

Жыл бұрын

There are no audience there😂😂its just audio of ppl clapping

@7:45 he never said over a billion people hold those pernicious views. Way to try twist his words..

@silvermane5695

3 жыл бұрын

If you watch the whole video Bill Maher was asking Ben Affleck "A billion people you say, all these billion people (Muslims) does not hold those pernicious beliefs?" then Ben Affleck corrected him saying 1.5 billion. He was in a sense saying all those Muslim hold pernicious beliefs. Then Ben Affleck responded him that he does not believes that all of them hold those beliefs only a minority then Bill Maher responded that is not true.

@youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508

3 жыл бұрын

he says all Muslims are radical.

@Parragon77

3 жыл бұрын

@@silvermane5695 No, you're doing the exact same thing Ben interpreted wrong. Bill is basically asking if not a single one of those billion people hold a single one of those beliefs, not if that billion as a whole has those beliefs.

@silvermane5695

3 жыл бұрын

@@Parragon77 Watch the whole video, he said it "All these billion people (Muslims) does not hold those pernicious beliefs?" you say...then Sam Harris pedalled back and said "I'm not saying all Muslims said that.." come on dude, really? LOL

@Parragon77

3 жыл бұрын

@@silvermane5695 Nowhere in that quote does it say all those people hold those beliefs. It's literally just a question asking if every single one of them abstains from those beliefs.

I like how the audience claps either way. "Liberals suck!" Claps. "Liberals are awesome!" Claps. What a confused group of people.

@di2017

7 жыл бұрын

Audiences feel compelled to clap, especially if there's a person, or sign, gesturing to 'clap'.

@Bmyt612

7 жыл бұрын

There were two people talking at the same time

@Bmyt612

7 жыл бұрын

The audience has to have a unanimous mutual response or else they're confused

@joycegibbs5267

7 жыл бұрын

we have that on a programme called Question Time. I've noticed when the same audience member claps for both comments even though they're totally opposing sides. No wonder most people don't know what these politicians are up to. As for Affleck, well I'm DEFINATELY on the "liberals suck" side, especially actors. They don't have proper jobs and live priveliged lives, so they have zero idea what's really going on. Islam is evil IMO, just look at halal slaughter. And yes, I am vegetarian because I've seen how animals die, halal slaughter or not and it's horrifying. I wouldn't want it done to me so why should I inflict it on defenceless animals ?

@connorloughnane1534

7 жыл бұрын

you know theres more theres more than one person in the audience right? 50 people might believe one side and another 50, the other. you will hear the same amount of clapping for each side. dumbasses

Am I supposed to believe that all of these people who disagree with Maher and Harris think Islam is full of good ideas? Kristof disagreed with Maher/Harris, then went on to admit that human rights activists are risking their lives by simply being human rights activists in countries molded around the principals of Islam. That is a totally asinine stance. Affleck also came off like an imbecile, with his snide, baseless remarks. Also, there most certainly IS a difference between racism and bigotry, so stop muddying the waters and conflating terms. It's not nitpicking, and it's stupid to suggest it is. Cartoons depicting Mohammed resulted in worldwide riots, for starters. All the twisting in the world won't change that. 7:23 Bullshit. That's not what he said. Cenk is lying.

@n8glenn

9 жыл бұрын

Nonsense, maher said things that are factually inaccurate, and the fact is that human rights workers are in danger all over the world, and many islamic countries are ruled by western backed dictators, but of course, you'd never think for one nanosecond that the DICTATOR or repressive government had ANYTHING to do with it, you'd say, like a true imbecile, that it's an inevitable, natural result of the infestation of muslims in the country, even though there are countries, like turkey, where human rights workers are in no danger, and that country is almost all muslim and not at all dictatorial or repressive. See? So islam HAS to be the problem and let's ignore politics, social conditions, and reality in general and just bash muslims because that makes us feel better about ourselves.

@elsquibbs

9 жыл бұрын

n8glenn All this coming from the person who told me that those who insult Islam should expect whatever happens to them. Kristof ADMITTED it. Go ahead and tell me how welcome Ayaan Hirsi Ali is in the Islamic world. When an Islamist hacks off a person head screaming about how God is Great, Islam is in fact involved whether you want to deny it or not.

@n8glenn

9 жыл бұрын

elsquibbs I didn't say that at all. I pointed out that when you insult people, and try to pick fights with them, sometimes they react badly, but you can't say that you're totally innocent in the affair. I also pointed out that most muslims would not try to hurt you for burning a quran, but some might, just like if you get up in church and burn a bible you might get beat down like a dog, or maybe not, but either way, you can't say you didn't ask for it.

@n8glenn

9 жыл бұрын

elsquibbs Now when some guy in ISIS hacks off somebody's head, he's not doing anything different than somebody dropping a bomb on a village, or committing any act of war, I mean, you've got to be kidding me, right? You think that ISIS is supposed to wage a war where they don't kill anybody?! You think that when erik prince goes to the middle east to exterminate muslims in the name of jesus it's better than when isis tries to kill people in the name of islam?! You think that because erik prince is violent, that makes all christians bad, or because isis is violent, that makes all muslims bad, or because the soviet union was violent, that makes all atheists bad?!

@elsquibbs

9 жыл бұрын

n8glenn Cartoons resulted in global riots. You choose how to react to people, so you only have yourself to blame when you react physically to words. A wife beater doesn't get to blame his wife when he smacks her around. That's not how it works in the West.

What i learn as a muslim toward other religion is "supporting them is not allowed but respecting them is must"

@flaviabattista109

4 жыл бұрын

COLE'S Play And this sucks already.... illegal ?

@dhru325

4 жыл бұрын

Flavia Battista not allowed is probably what they meant

@hishamhamdan2105

4 жыл бұрын

@@flaviabattista109 he mean forbidden. in religion

@PJ-cm8ix

3 жыл бұрын

Illegal wtf😂😂😂

@tejashagrawal9585

3 жыл бұрын

You are being a hypocrite in your own statement . How can you respect them and not support them ?

The Qur'an says that "there is no compulsion in religion," so anyone claiming that Allah orders other Muslims to kill the leaver is out of line. We are not allowed to punish people who decide that Islam isn't for them, and Muslim theocratic governments who make laws that have such punishments within them are not doing so from an Islamic position at all. Its really important to understand that these people who are in favour of these things don't even seem to understand their own beliefs.

@mebeasensei

5 жыл бұрын

if people don't understand it, it maybe difficult to understand, it doesn't teach tolerance enough, or make it easy enough to understand.

@ME-mz5vk

5 жыл бұрын

. The freedom of belief in Islam, under Islamic law, means the freedom of Muslims to exercise their faith and the freedom of all to accept Islam. The Islamic legal system has no negative religious freedom for Muslims and does not recognize the claim to be a member of any religion. Accordingly, Muslims do not have the right to convert to another religion or live without religion. ~Wikipedia

@kxxooo558

5 жыл бұрын

This guy on the tv are liar, im pretty sure he doesnt stdy quran.🙄

@MAS99341

5 жыл бұрын

@@ME-mz5vk wikipedia... thats all im gonna say

@Nazareadain

5 жыл бұрын

@@MAS99341 Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, and then undone immediately, and block the IP of the person who did so falsely, lock them if targeted, and sources required. There literally isn't a better more reliable way of having up to date source based information. Wikipedia being unreliable is a meme, and your response is as scripted as it gets for an NPC. Prove me wrong.

Ben, if you can't keep up with the conversation, you will have to sit at the kiddy table.

@MLGMagnesium

8 жыл бұрын

+Neanderthal 23 Its not really a conversation when Bill Maher is expressing bigotry.

@VisionXray23

8 жыл бұрын

MLGMagnesium Bill Maher is expressing facts. Islam is completely incompatible with Liberal values.

@MLGMagnesium

8 жыл бұрын

***** His facts aren't correct actually. He said that 90 percent of muslims in Egypt believe in the idea of death if you leave islam. As Cenk showed, that is false, its lower than 50 percent. Now is that a significant number, yes, but it shows that there isn't a majority support behind it. But hey, If Bill Maher is credible to you, go for it. But, I take facts via actual polls over the ones made up by comedians like Bill. :)

@VisionXray23

8 жыл бұрын

MLGMagnesium Wow, that makes me feel much better that it's less than 50%. I love how low our standards are that we think it ok when less than 50% of a population wants to murder us! "Yea, they aren't all bad, less than 50% of them want to murder us" - Regressive left idiots of 2016.

@davrogrz8025

8 жыл бұрын

+MLGMagnesium ,,, lol

This is SAD! You are straight up LYING!

@emasinaa

8 жыл бұрын

+Niko Akaras The 20% number was also from PEW Stupid.

@liamggamer10000

8 жыл бұрын

Ok. And where did you get the %99 statistics?

@emasinaa

8 жыл бұрын

liam hunt All you need to do is go on and look at the monthly terror attack list for 2015 and calculate it yourself. Remember I said terror attacks that resulted in casualties.

@yahya361rulez

8 жыл бұрын

+Niko Akaras yea thats based on what exavtly?

@liamggamer10000

8 жыл бұрын

+Niko Akaras Oh, i forgot that if i copy something and paste it, that means its not real... -_-

Remember when Cenk was simi-reasonableness and not suffering from TDS These were peaceful days lol

Islam... Christians... all the same to me. Each of these religions shouts that they are a religion of peace, Jains are the religion of peace.

As a Muslim I can tell you that what taliban and ISIS is doing has nothing to do with Islam. EDITED: all the people showing hate are actually proving the talibans right. Talibans are of the view that all non-muslims hate Muslims and whatever you do they will call you liars and hate you. STOP PROVING THEM RIGHT. peace and love.

@saraaibar5630

7 жыл бұрын

Rogi Cizdima people created the sects. There is no concept of sects in Islam.

@Kaarna5

7 жыл бұрын

It is utterly ridiculous to try and claim that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam. They may not represent the views of most Muslims, but whether you like it or not ISIS only exists in the way that they do because of Islam.

@saraaibar5630

7 жыл бұрын

Jake Kennedy Racist. You are doing it and yet denying it.

@Kaarna5

7 жыл бұрын

I am not a racist. Islam is not a race and even if it was I still wouldn't be a racist because I didn't say anything bad about it. I just told you the truth and you can't handle it. Sorry pal.

@RahulPatel-mf8si

7 жыл бұрын

L

This is so smart from Affleck. By strongly rejecting any rights non-Muslims have to criticise Islam and making nice with all parts of the religion he ensures that the Islamists will never seek to harm him. In essence he has provided himself with an anti-terrorism shield rendering him immune to all explosions and attacks. After all, this is what happens when you appease bullies and not you know; the bully gets encouraged by your willing, cravenness.

@gingfreecss3467

8 жыл бұрын

Lmao go watch zeitgeist docu wake up

@terminatortscc1

8 жыл бұрын

+Tr33fiddy Wow what a stupid assumption. If you are that scared of muslims go cringe down a cliff and die already. That's what they want anyway.

@Tr33fiddy

8 жыл бұрын

Bestivitiness rofl

@gingfreecss3467

8 жыл бұрын

Tr33fiddy srs watch zeitgeist. its what the government wants you to think, they make sure the focus of the problem goes to islam. because they are trying to hide that they are corrupt

@Tr33fiddy

8 жыл бұрын

Terra Nort rofl x2

He didn't say Muslims where particularly bad, he said Islam. The ideology not the people.

@keikoyukimura06

4 жыл бұрын

With Wilk No, neither is bad. Certain people make it bad, ISIS are terrible. You won’t ever get it, you’re gonna burn in hell, remember my words!

@Noa......

3 жыл бұрын

@@keikoyukimura06 Telling others to go to hell...is not bad?

@jacuzzihot

4 ай бұрын

Nothing worse than Judaism. I am not kidding.

Paused this at 3 seconds when I realised it was a TYT video. Now I am going back to search for the same clip of Affleck but on a different channel.

@_Gaby_950

2 жыл бұрын

Smart move 👍

@wild.impala

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Cenk has the mental capacity of a bag of sand

"Religion of peace" my ass.

@AmreeenSolanki

8 жыл бұрын

Your ass is too shitty

@misterrex684

8 жыл бұрын

Yo!Sup? are women alowed to be rude in islam? i think you wouldve got stoned saying this to a man lol

@zeynabe1997

8 жыл бұрын

Says the one with a Murderer as his profile pic lol

@Dominikmj

8 жыл бұрын

+Aurthur Pendragon ...to be honest - it is not so much shocking, that someone who is so idiotic, that he calls himself after a war-criminal, mass-murderer and psychopath - says this. It is rather, that so many people thumbed his comment up!

@belladghammohamedcherif4506

8 жыл бұрын

what you know about islam you ignoring shit..have you read or just listen what they want you to listen...idiot

Take a chill pill, Affleck. This is why you and Superman starting throwing down!

@nickjohn2051

8 жыл бұрын

Hahahahha

@luke666808g

8 жыл бұрын

+Bill Proud Superman is a monster! He has to be stopped.

@DorpyScorpy

8 жыл бұрын

+luke666808g Yeah, gotta admit, the movie really made him look like a monster.

@RidiculousThe3rd

8 жыл бұрын

Your basing a actors role to a political argument... The maturity shows. 😏 if you're gonna argue with someone about something, at least come up with relevant arguments, instead of being stubborn... 😉

@criticalbill2090

8 жыл бұрын

Yonas Mekonnen I think YOUR maturity shows because ur getting all highly strung about somebody making a joke

I'm muslim... I don't wanna blow myself up.. just for some reason... I just wanna spread peace and i wanna be myself.. I don't want to force others to follow my religion if they don't want to.. because it doesn't count... Idk what these guys are talking about with no knowledge of Islam also Kudos to Ben Affleck for Atleast defending it... The first line he said was true.. they don't have the knowledge of Islam how can they speak with/or against it... It's like proving science is wrong without knowing anything about it LOL

@Qthetar

2 жыл бұрын

@@stomio6491 homophobia exist everywhere

@caseylee6441

Жыл бұрын

Well that’s great man.. but you aren’t in agreement with the vast majority of Islam

@zaydevans2077

Жыл бұрын

Well said apart from the no knowledge of Islam. He literally states pew polls in the video with statistics of large scale polling of the Muslim world. Not sure if this was selective hearing but thought I’d circle that bit. Also as much as you’re a perfect example of the perfect Muslim. Sadly if 1 in 4 muslims in the uk think a cartoonist should be harmed for his ‘mocking’ of the prophet Muhammad then say that’s conservatively the view of the rest of muslims that’s over 300m people who think death or injury is fair if someone depicts the prophet poorly. Again I’m very glad you’re tolerant and not living by this commandment but sadly a large percentile of your brothers and sisters if not living by it agree it should be carried out that way.

I predicted which side Cenk would fall on this and my prediction was right.

@michael-4k4000

5 ай бұрын

What's up with Jussie Smollett?

@jacuzzihot

4 ай бұрын

Nothing worse than Judaism. I am not kidding.

I think it is very important to distinguish between criticising a race and criticising a religion though. Criticising a race is nonsensical and unethical, because a person's race does not directly determine their beliefs and actions. Whereas people have to be able to criticise ideologies that they do not agree with.

@noelallenbose972

7 жыл бұрын

Criticize on whose yardstick- one's own religion?

@iAmTheSquidThing

7 жыл бұрын

bos leon One's own values, whatever they may be.

@noelallenbose972

7 жыл бұрын

Well said

@32spy

7 жыл бұрын

Why? ??

@s3lfFish

7 жыл бұрын

you do realize only americans still talk about "race" - you should take it out of the voabulary in hte first place, racism is the belief that they are race amongst humans, and that one is better than others. Scientist already proved the human specie has no race, whatsoever. So what you wanna say is, yes criticising a culture and a religion is sane but has to be distiguished anyway because its not the same, specially when you put it that way . They are many sociological things that interlace together in any issue.

If i'm wrong i'm wrong, just please answer. So if "most" of Islam is "non-fundamentalist" (which i assume Ben Affleck thinks most of Islamic country allow freedoms like the US) can you burn the Qur'an or a picture of Mohamed in public in any Muslim country without getting in trouble? And, I mean in trouble because you are defiling a religious identity, not arson or any other bullshit.

@jessemaxamus

9 жыл бұрын

you get in trouble in the US also, TYT recently did a video about some 18ish year old who took a picture of a jesus statue giving him oral and he got in shit.

@theepictbird

9 жыл бұрын

sorry but bullshit. Some douche bag is TRYING but he is not going to jail or facing charges.

@theepictbird

9 жыл бұрын

Also, if the kid ends up with any charges, it HAS NOTHING to do with religion. They are pushing for standard public property charges.

@theepictbird

9 жыл бұрын

You can burn the fucking American flag in the US and not go to jail. NO comparison.

@khalduras784

9 жыл бұрын

A picture of Muhammad does not exist....

If Islam is a religion of peace, doesn’t it follow that extremist would be MORE peaceful rather than more violent?

@brandondunn9007

3 жыл бұрын

Josef what are you talking about?

@jime3281

3 жыл бұрын

@Son of Martha When on average 80 percent of British Muslims stated in multiple different polls that the Danish cartoonist should have been prosecuted- those are the cultural issues regarding women and homosexuals and freedom of speech that Harris was bringing up. Entirely relevant points.

Ben is like superman, I love him. but I don't think he quite understood what they were talking about.

I wish they would both go live in islam ruled country and then come back and yell us how much it is like us!!

@questioneverything2077

8 жыл бұрын

Cenk and Ben

@isaiahphillip4112

8 жыл бұрын

+Tara Mokaya "Cenk n' Ben's adventures in Saudi Arabia"

@jerryperkins6089

8 жыл бұрын

+Tara Mokaya dont use propaganda and lies against islam cause it doesnt work.

@VideoMenu

8 жыл бұрын

+Jerry Perkins - That right there--calling truth about what happens when Islam is practiced properly as "propaganda and lies"--is in itself propaganda and lies. It's the GO TO tactic when someone notices a truth about Islam, it's called "a lie!" even when it's true. But it causes timid PC people to back down.

@jerryperkins6089

8 жыл бұрын

just tell me why your churches are empty and for sale,tell me why your families are desingreating,it touches the collapse of faith and creates social dysfinction.You don't read your own Bible ;do you know that the legalized polygamy in Islam is inferior to the unlimited clandestine adultery in the WEST;

"'Islam is not a race.' Don't nitpick stupid stuff like that." Bullshit! Islam is *not* a race, nor it is a country, it's an ideology and this was clearly stated by Mr Harris, "Islam is the motherload of _bad ideas_." At which point Mr Affleck plays the race card with gusto and enthusiasm. The more examples I see of your "liberalism" the better I feel about having unsubscribed.

@MisFellatio

9 жыл бұрын

its a religion fucktard. Zionism is an ideology.

@seblasian

9 жыл бұрын

Ruben de Groot Religion is ideology by definition. Not sure what motivation you had to call him a fucktard, but it does prove my suspicion that readiness to insult correlates with stupidity.

@MisFellatio

9 жыл бұрын

seblasian In the conceptual sense, all religion is an ideology. But us people make a distinction between ideologies and religions most of the time. Why I called him a fucktard, is because all anti-islamist like to call islam an ideology, but dont apply that to judaism, christianity or other religions,

@seblasian

9 жыл бұрын

Ruben de Groot Still don't see a reason for the insult, especially if you weren't actually correcting him. But what you point out is food for thought; why do you make that distinction, and why do some insist on applying it to Islam and not other religions?

@BahadorAlast

9 жыл бұрын

Think outside the box for a minute. Although Islamophobia is by definition not a form of racism, it definitely can be, when people associate an appearance with their own personal hatred for Muslims. For instance, I’m an atheist but because of the way I look I’ve been verbally assaulted many times with anti-Muslim slurs.

Ben has great points ❤

@himwhoisnottobenamed5427

Жыл бұрын

No he doesn’t.

Yes, we need to empower the moderate Muslims and acknowledge their views. I am Amex-Muslim who loves some aspects of Islam but disagrees with a lot of Islamic beliefs.

Looking at that poll, the 20% number seems very reasonable.

@AhsimNreiziev

8 жыл бұрын

+Sophovot Except you have to take into account the countries in that poll have wildly different amounts of Muslims living in them. For example, the biggest Muslim population in terms of absolute numbers is the Indonesian one, and they were somewhere in the bottom half of the list. Afghanistan, which was at the top, has decidedly less Muslims living in it.

@aellaantiope3665

8 жыл бұрын

+Ahsim Nreiziev But even in Indonesia 71 per cent support Sharia. 71 per cent. Do you get how many millions of people that is, in just one country. And Indonesia is supposed to be the poster child for moderation ( and don't forget the fact that 95 per cent of all muslim girls have fgm in Indonesia too)

@OG-tr4sc

8 жыл бұрын

+Sophovot exactly my thought haha, Cenk is being very defensive it seems

@alexjaybrady

8 жыл бұрын

+Owen Gavin i think hes concerned about clever people like Sam Harris saying clever correct things about reformations secularism which stupid people hear as a scientific reason to hate muslims

@CrimsonWolf69

8 жыл бұрын

+Sophovot I was thinking that. Cenk showed his poll and I was thinking: "uhhh the average looks about 20%." LOL

Bill Maher did not say all Muslims hold those beliefs. Affleck said none of them do. Maher said some of them do, he didn't say all.

@khwv056

9 жыл бұрын

watch it again. he(bill maher) means it.

@suffist

9 жыл бұрын

Sauske Dk For the second time Chenk is lying Bill Maher did not say all Muslims. at 7:10 Affleck says "all billion point 5 Muslims don't hold any of those pernicious beliefs" Maher says" That's just not true" Chenk says, " That's the biggest problem right there Bill Maher saying no, over a billion Muslims, not a small minority, not even a significant minority. He might not have said literally but he meant all billion and a half Muslims hold those radical views." This is nonsense Maher said no such thing. He said that Affleck was wrong to say none of them hold those views, which is a lie, and Mayer was just pointing it out. So Affleck is lying. So is Chenk

@pyromaniac407

9 жыл бұрын

suffist No Affleck said 1 billion. There are 1.6. Maher seems to think a majority are islamists And Harris then claimed that 20% bullshit

@y3ee3e

9 жыл бұрын

You should go back to school and learn the English language you fucking imbecile.

@Jack7967

9 жыл бұрын

Affleck didn't say none of them do...... He siad not all of them do. Are your ears broken? I don't think Maher meant that they all did either. I think it was a case of the phrasing being poor and they both misunderstood what they other was trying to say. Evidently you did too. Is anybody on YT able to use their brains....

I like how Ben and this guy from Turks running this show thinks

Affleck will go down as one of the biggest fools in history

@jacob41057

7 жыл бұрын

to you maybe. He's the opposite of a fool to me

@koentjuh782

7 жыл бұрын

jake thomp How so? Please explain

@jacob41057

7 жыл бұрын

Koen van Amerongen Well everything he said here was spot on. And I've seen his interviews. He seems very intelligent and funny.

@koentjuh782

7 жыл бұрын

jake thomp That's not an explanation. Here's what happened at Maher's show back then: Harris tries to have an honest and productive conversation about islam. He talks about how many muslims around the world have quite anti-liberal ideas, according to Pew Research polls. And then some ignorant dipshit in the hollywood asskissing circuit calls Harris a 'racist'. Harris didn't say anything that was racist or inaccurate

@jacob41057

7 жыл бұрын

Koen van Amerongen Actually i saw this whole thing as well and Ben (as a said) was spot on. Also (as seen in TYT video above) Harris was inaccurate.

you do realize that your statistic which was supposed to clearly debunk the whole "20% of muslims have somewhat radical views" thing adds up to almost exactly 20% of muslims supporting death penalty for leaving islam?

@siemerssteve

7 жыл бұрын

And that's already leaving out almost 900 million of muslims worldwide by the way. Just to clarify

@johnisaac7302

7 жыл бұрын

How so?

@siemerssteve

7 жыл бұрын

1) Look at chart 2) Estimate the actual % of muslims per country that are in favor of death penalty for apostasy because there are no vertical lines in the picture except for the multiples of 10%, when in doubt, estimate lower than it actually is to not have a too high outcome (basically benefit of the doubt) 3) Go to Wikipedia, look up the countries that were mentioned in the graph 4) Look up the population numbers for each respective country aswell as % count of people in the respective country who are of islamic faith. multiply the population count by "% muslims" and you have the absolute number of muslims for the respective countries. Sum all these up together. You'll need it later. 5) Sum up the number of muslims in each country multiplied with the % number of muslims per country that (morally) support death penalty for apostasy. You now have the absolute number of muslims supporting the death penalty for apostasy in all countries combined (at least those which you chose to include into your calculation) 6) Interpret your results. I used a normal calculator to quickly do this. Based off of the chart presented in the video i started on the right side of the chart with Afghanistan, including every country on the left side of it up until indonesia after which i stopped because the numbers were getting pretty low and it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the calculation much. before anyone tries to get at me for this, this only even lowers the estimated number. The actual number is (based off this chart) in fact higher than what this calculation would give you as a result. As far as i remember, this calculation included some number around 700-750 million muslims (this number comes from step 4 and the result was that out of these 750+- million people, around 280-300million were morally supporting the death penalty for apostasy. Once again, more math stuff: 6a) Divide 280million/750million (this produces the lowest % outcome of the numbers i just gave you), that gives you roughly 37.3% of muslims supporting the death penalty for leaving islam out of those included in the earlier calculations 6b) Divide 280million/1.5 billion, that gives you roughly 18.7% of muslims supporting the death penalty for leaving islam out of ALL muslims worldwide. Note: that's assuming that out of the remaining 750million muslims not included in the earlier calculations, noone does support death penalty for leaving Islam. I'm aware that all these numbers aren't exactly true because wikipedia sometimes has outdated data on country populations etc. (most numbers are from 2012-2015 +-) and it's also not clear from the video how many people have actually been included in the survey to even create the chart. I also realize that data is often times manipulated, but in that case, why bother including it at all? Even if the whole math stuff isn't for you, take away the following things from this: 1. If anything, unlike the host pretends in the video, the shown image does not debunk Sam Harris' "20% number" but rather, depending on how you choose to interpret the data, either confirms it pretty accurately, or even almost doubles this number. 2. When you try to use statistical charts to make a point, sit down for 5 minutes and crunch the numbers before you embarrass yourself like the presenter of this video did. This is 6th grade math.

@johnisaac7302

7 жыл бұрын

Well it still is a minority.

@requiemforamerica8432

7 жыл бұрын

it's a huge minority - revolutions happen with just 10% of people with radical ideas.

There is NO ideology or religion that is ABOVE criticism

@yokiryuchan7655

8 ай бұрын

Sure, I agree. but he makes a good point at the end You're not going to get anywhere by telling muslims they are worse then everyone else. It's not true for one, They aren't. secondly. you'll pretty much shut down any possibility of a civil relationship with that person.

@flyflybaby2723

8 ай бұрын

@@yokiryuchan7655 I completely disagree with you! IT IS TRUE that they worse than everyone else! Let me give you a few examples: Due to the teachings of Islam, Muslims are likely to engage in religiously motivated violence - the idea "Islam has nothing to do with terrorism" is a FALSE thing that Muslims and Muslim apologists have been saying since 9/11(the ideological fuel for Islamic terror groups is Islam), and secondly, Islamic terrorist organizations are NOT the same as the IRA, the Haganah or the Bolsheviks, their motivations are not the same. Muslims in the West screem bloody murder when they the same rights as EVERYONE else but minorities in Islamic countries are under severe persecution by MUSLIMS (Hindus in Bangladesh and Pakistan, Yazidis in Syria and Iraq, Coptic Christians in Egypt...etc). EVERY SINGLE country where being gay brings the death penalty are MUSLIMS majority countries - the law being sourced from Islamic make no mistake about that! Last thing that came to mind, as stated earlier Muslims in the West will ALWAYS complain about "Islamophobia" about everything but the vast majority of hate crimes against Jewish people are done by MUSLIMS not the "far-right", this is something that the media likes to keep under the rug a lot

Ben Affleck feel concerned and devastated to hear such an islamophobia words , bc hey we are same

@TinyStixMusicChannel

5 жыл бұрын

It’s not Islamophobia to criticise Islam, which is what Harris and Maher were doing. Ben Affleck didn’t really have much of a point here at all, and if you think he did you need to reconsider what you deem to be an effective argument.

@TinyStixMusicChannel

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce S maybe so, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is a bad idea and has terrible consequences around the world

@Nik-xi2ri

5 жыл бұрын

@Bruce S i cringed so hard reading your comment

@babagarus

5 жыл бұрын

As a journalist, try the exact same thing with Judaism and we will talk about it later. But for now you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

@TinyStixMusicChannel

5 жыл бұрын

Mamadou Keita yes, well while agree that the Torah contains just as vulgur material as the Quran, that doesn’t change the fact that there are no countries with law based entirely upon Judaism, while there are 15 countries that operate under the basis of Sharia law.

"The crucial point of confusion is that we have been sold this meme of islamophobia, where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry towards Muslims as people." And then Ben proceeds to spend the rest of the segment proving Sam right.

@dena180

6 жыл бұрын

that is precisely why sam is a genius and cenk is a water buffalo

@hughjazzole2037

6 жыл бұрын

Aleck has ancestors that were sae owners

@FairyAl

6 жыл бұрын

except the definition of islamophobia is the hatred of muslims not the criticism of the religious dogma. if you're already confused about this simple definition then we can't trust you to give a relevant opinion, can we ?

@jacobdavis3876

5 жыл бұрын

Bob Please don't refer to an entire religion of human beings as "vermin," it only exposes your racism. LGBT (which exactly?!) or not, anyone can be a bigot, and your revealing yourself as one is a bad look to say the least.

@grantsuppes

Жыл бұрын

You're the type to cry and moan Anti Semitism if someone critizices the israelis for their apartheid. But if someone says "we should have a war against Muslims purely because of their religion", then you'll call it freedom of speech. Islamaphobia is a problem because there are more idiot rednecks like you and your family than actual educated people who don't support the Islamaphobic hate the West makes a business out of. Keep crying snowflake. You're upset because the Islamic Countries control your economy. Keep begging them for more oil.

10:30 "Sam says 20% of Muslims are radicalized, he made that up" *Shows graph that confirms at least 20% are radical. "So when you say all Muslims, that's not true!" What???

@yarasaeed6219

7 жыл бұрын

bitch are u dumb

@yarasaeed6219

7 жыл бұрын

wigger bloke thank you brother❤

@samo8565

7 жыл бұрын

Mike May 👍 Yea, i didn't intend to bash you or anything. Just giving a different perspective.. Not that you couldn't figure this out yourself, but you might have only looked at it at a glance and not thought about all the factors in play. The reason I replied to begin with is because people will like your original post and use it as defence for a biased opinion, when in fact they have not looked at the graph themselves. I bet people will continue to like it lol Anywho, have a nice one 🚬😎💨🍻

@patsrule213

7 жыл бұрын

+Mike May It only adds up to 20% if you generalize about Muslims. Only 38,000 Muslims were surveyed, not the 1 billion that you think they surveyed. That is conservative thinking which is why the people who hate Islam are part of the regressive left. So we only get thousands of Muslims instead of millions of Muslims as the regressive left wants you to believe. And the regressive left is justifying a World War between Islam and the west. They don't want to mention that part of the discussion. www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

@patsrule213

7 жыл бұрын

+Mike May So now you are censoring speech? You were pointing out that Sam Harris didn't say all Muslims. No one is saying all Muslims. All the people criticizing you are accurately pointing out the flaws in Sam Harris' argument. He is justifying a world war between Islam and the West, and thanks to enough of the Sam Harris fanboys voting for Donald Trump, we now have someone who could initiate that horrible policy, which liberals oppose .

Bill didn't say all of the billion hold those opinions... he was clearly just disputing Ben saying that a billion muslims don't hold those opinions. It's funny how people interpret the opposite of what was said to fulfil a narrative of superior thought against opposition.

18:56 crazy how this repeats with Palestine and Israel, but now it's absolutely insanely worse

wtf? bill maher didint say all muslims" ben affleck said " no muslims" so maybe he got lost in translation but thats what happened

@thomsip1990

8 жыл бұрын

This needs to be upvoted a lot. The guy makes a BIG point of this even thought the exact opposite of his point is treu.

@Stormie33

8 жыл бұрын

Yea, Cenk completely missed the plot on that comment. Bill was questioning whether Ben thought none of those 1.0 to 1.5 billion "normal" Muslims had radical views, which idiot Ben, who's obviously never looked at a poll of the Muslim world in his life, claimed to be the case, at which point Bill said it wasn't. Clearly he was not saying ALL Muslims have radical views, but disputing Ben's ridiculous claim that none do (outside of actual radicals).

He clearly said "i know there is people bigoted against muslims and thats a problem, but we are talking about critisizing a bad idea, and islam is a motherload of bad ideas" Then Cenk goes on to say that "when you see muslims as particulary bad..." That's excactly waht he said in the beginning of the sentence! he was talking about islam as a bad idea, witch it clearly is like every other religion fundamentally is. And you just tippy-toed around it claiming he's accusing all the muslims. ffs...

@jayp4687

7 жыл бұрын

Also you can't say that because we have a problem just like this elsewhere, we should not fix this. Just because fundamental christians are being idiots, doesn't mean we should let ISIS be. Also people like Dawkings is actively trying to eradicate this plague from the america, se we're doing something.

@jayp4687

7 жыл бұрын

Bill marr is saying over a billion people are islamic so they hold islamic ideals. He's not saying every one of them is radical, just that they hold islamic ideals, which we just discussed, is a motherload of bad ideas.

@jiin5993

7 жыл бұрын

2:01 He even warns the viewer about the possible conflation and then immediately does it himself as you pointed out.

Saying that "Islam is the motherload of bad ideas" is just plain bigotry and ignorance. Islam is very different in different parts of the world. Not all Muslims live in Saudi Arabia nor oppress women, for instance. And within Saudi Arabia, not all Muslims agree. And Islam has some very beautiful ideas and have done some amazing things throughout its history. (Very influential in the creation of medicine and chemistry, just as a for instance.) As usual Bill Mawr is ignorant of where he speaks--particularly about religion. What would people say if they had said, "Christianity is the motherload of bad ideas. It is anti-woman, anti LGBTQ, anti-liberal, anti-Semitic and has one of the most brutal histories of ANY religion on earth."

Why is Ben Affleck getting so angry at Ben Stiller? Why?

@kaws3076

2 жыл бұрын

virtue signaling

Bill/Sam say Muslims, Cenk hears "all Muslims". Nice.

@dookdawg214

9 жыл бұрын

As usual. It's amazing to me how often Cenk is guilty of using the same Fox News tactics he bitches about all the time.

@dramatish

9 жыл бұрын

Bill/sam say Muslims, you hear what?

@vernonsza

9 жыл бұрын

Agreed. When people make a generalized (notice "general" in that word means usually or most) statement, they mean to talk about a group in general. NOT ALL. Which is why I find it funny when people say "you can't make generalizations about all people of a group". Apparently they don't know what a generalization is.

@StephanieL180

9 жыл бұрын

Bill pretends he isn't bigoted against all Muslims, but has expressed his horror at the popularity of baby boys given the name Muhammad. That's not making a distinction between ordinary, non-violent Muslims and violent radical Muslims - it's bigotry towards the entire group.

@dookdawg214

9 жыл бұрын

Stephanie L Do you think you look cool holding a cigarette? You look like an idiot. When I see a smoker I see a weak-willed, insecure person.

"islam is the motherload of bad ideas" this statement from sam doesn't in any way shape or form address any sort of people, it's a statement about ideas. if one says that christianity is stupid and dumb, then one is talking about the religion itself and not the people that are exercising it.

@imthebossthere

9 жыл бұрын

***** this is why i didn't mention maher.

@imthebossthere

9 жыл бұрын

***** i actually just wanted to clear things up. cenk also made the mistake of conflating islam as a religion with ("all") muslims when addressing sams quote "the motherload of bad ideas". the point is that islam, as a religion, is dangerous. the people who subscribe to it may or may not be. i don't think this short video is an accurate reflection of sam's position. he debated islam over and over again and actually never made statements like the one maher made.

@numnut1987

9 жыл бұрын

***** if that religion is so "perfect" cherrypicking shouldnt be a problem. And there is no athiest agenda, just a bunch of people that are fed up with idiotic ideas ruling.

@imthebossthere

9 жыл бұрын

***** there is no misunderstanding amongst atheists. people just hear what they wanna hear. what someone says:" islam is dangerous and dumb" what someone else hears:" all muslims are dangerous and dumb" you're right at one point. people often talk about things they don't understand. that's the case almost everywhere and regarding anything. but here we have a comedian who is known for hyperbolism and a famous critic of religion, who debated hundreds of times on this topic and never said anything like this. also on a sidenote: to me, it doesn't really matter if all muslims practice their religion to the full extent (meaning jihad, blowing up busses and shit), or if 20% of all muslims or if only a single one does that. the amount of people who practice this sort of behaviour should be zero.

@Impulze08

9 жыл бұрын

But it's also horribly false. Islam is about peace, if you ask any non-extremist muslim.

I am shocked by the number of folk think the death penalty is appropriate for leaving the faith. I say that as someone who is not a fan of Harris

I don’t remember seeing this recap. Let’s see which way they take it.

Ben Affleck seemed naïve and overly emotional. Bill Maher and Sam Harris are correct on this issue. Sam Harris took the time to explain the context of this exchange. It is worth reading - www.samharris.org/blog/item/can-liberalism-be-saved-from-itself

@Thutil

9 жыл бұрын

Superman13195 That's ridiculous. If their religion is bad, war won't make it better. Maher and Harris most likely agree with Cenk's ending speech about education, winning their hearts and minds. Harris actually called for a reform of Islam and explained why refusal to admit that Islam is particularly toxic is detrimental to those efforts.

@Thutil

9 жыл бұрын

Superman13195 If Sam Harris' opinion is useless, then so is yours.

@Thutil

9 жыл бұрын

Superman13195 Sam Harris' opinion is that we need to enable Islamic reformation. Your opinion is that we need to enable Islamic reformation. If you both have the same opinion, and Sam Harris' opinion is useless, then so is yours.

@Thutil

9 жыл бұрын

Superman13195 You're going to need citations for all of those claims.

@Thutil

9 жыл бұрын

Now I'm convinced you're deliberately misrepresenting his opinions, stripping them of all nuance. It's the worst case of reductio ad absurdum I've ever seen.

Straight out of the gate Ben claims that criticism of the religion is racist... Criticizing a religion is not racism, hate or bigotry. All religions have bad ideas that should be criticized, calling people racists for doing so is just trying to avoid said criticism.

@Jeremyramone

9 жыл бұрын

that s exactly the impression I got and it is quite disappointing to see cenk defending such nonsense. cheers

@humbleyetarrogant6923

9 жыл бұрын

that is the issue you all fail to see. You claim it is religion's criticism which we all would be on board with, however you resort to making broad statements about every god damn person who belongs to that religion using stupid statistics that are not reflective of every damn one of those places. Are those religious ideas dominant within every muslim society that we can judge every muslim country the same? fuck no. But that does not seem to get sink in your heads due to your own messed up objective pursuing simplicity where it is not easily applicable.

@ybra

9 жыл бұрын

jeremyshambles Yeah it is sad to see Cenk defending religion here. There seems to be no nuance when it comes to this topic. Of course not all Muslims are extremist, most of them aren't. But there are a sizable number of people that take the religion so seriously as to oppress and kill because of it. And there are countries and military groups that are extreme. Of course we should criticize it. And Cenks argument seems to be, "but Christians are as bad as them". Which is only a reason why we should criticize Christianity too (which both Sam and Bill does).

@ybra

9 жыл бұрын

humbleyetarrogant I don't claim that every Muslim is an extremist or that every Muslim country is the same. But there are Muslims and Muslim countries that take their religion way too seriously and that seems to cause oppression and worse. It's just as much a problem if you take Christianity, or most other religions of that matter, too seriously. No religion should be free from criticism.

@play030

9 жыл бұрын

big·ot·ry ˈbiɡətrē/ noun noun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotries intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself. "the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"

I genuinely don’t understand how anyone can watch this and this Ben Affleck is even coming close to anything as coherent as a point

I love the fact that an Ex-Muslim (atheist) defends “Islam and Muslims” with facts and figures unlike Bill Mahr and Sam Hariss who just displayed their “emotionally charged bigotry” on the show.

Why would you even invite Affeck to this debate? Thats like inviting me to talk on the Higgs boson

@youknowyoufuckedupright3058

7 жыл бұрын

Because Ben Affleck is The Batman

@nilakall5804

7 жыл бұрын

why invite Scot Baio to foxnews to talk bad about Islam?

@youknowyoufuckedupright3058

7 жыл бұрын

Nila Kall Because Scott Baio is a fuckboy.

@m.mahram633

7 жыл бұрын

Ben Affleck actually studied middle eastern affairs in college! he didn't finish but that was his major!

@d.w.stratton4078

7 жыл бұрын

Because he studied Middle Eastern affairs in his college education.

I love how Chenk completely cuts out the opposite side's argument to change it and responds as if that's the argument.

@matthewjoynt5521

7 жыл бұрын

Right. I came here to listen to the debate, not Chenk. All I got here was this guy using a debate to drive the narrative he wanted.

@lemonadelemon1960

7 жыл бұрын

Robby Frank if you wanted to see the actual debate you go to that vid ok?😂

@Claudex05

7 жыл бұрын

this is 90% of what he does

@r4v3nh34rt

7 жыл бұрын

Ah, you mean a straw man? Yep.

@dennisthemenace7415

7 жыл бұрын

Robby Frank isn't that what they do?

Cenk is totally biased and is not seeing Sams or Bills point at all, as well as Ben.

I won't reply with any hate because this is not what my religion teaches us. Our religion Islam teaches us to live peacefully.

BEN AFFLECK has Produced directed and acted in ARGO which was an oscar winning Film. which showed negative aspect of Muslims killing Americans in the 80s harshly.. I guess Ben AFFLECK needed to see his own film before this debate lol

@matthewrowley1514

7 жыл бұрын

That's called acting smart one.

@vikasuniyal3505

7 жыл бұрын

I mean he was totally correct but he was completely denying the Facts ...That night he was playing Muslims lawyer i guess lol

@maxines108

7 жыл бұрын

oh no poor people, well i guess we can easily neglect all those children being bombed and raped in iraq oops lool

@aashiqmurali6154

7 жыл бұрын

Lol u dont know what you are talking about. Argo was a movie about a riot where the people of Iran wanted the US to bring back their corrupt leader back to them. It LITERALLY had nothing to do with religion. You need to think before u say something.

@gypsydancer64

7 жыл бұрын

corrupt leader, they wanted the Shah back so they could kill him. That country was so much better with the Shah. Now it's a backwards country.

That chart that Cenk showed at 11:05 pretty much proves Harris' point and Cenk doesn't even realize it. You'd have to take into account the populations of each of those countries but the average percentage seems to be right around the 20% mark. I mean Pakistan plus Afghanistan plus Egypt is 300 million people. People keep bringing up Indonesia as if two billion people lived there or something. There are almost as much people in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Egypt who think apostates should be killed (196 million) than there are people in Indonesia who don't (219 million). So ya, this isn't something to brush under the rug as a tiny minority. It's hundreds of millions of people who hold some incredibly stupid and dangerous beliefs that stem from their religion. Also, in case you were keeping score, 20% of a 1.5 billion is 300 million. In just three countries: Egypt, Pakistan and Afghanistan 196 million people think apostates should be killed. So that 20% mark is not made up as Cenk so stupidly implied. PS: I was just doing a quick calculation so I assumed all people in those countries I mentioned are Muslim which isn't correct. So in the interest of openness and honesty my figures are slightly inflated. I don't feel like doing the actual calculations for a youtube comment probably nobody will actually read, so this is just a rough estimate.

@HerrRoehrich

9 жыл бұрын

Agreed. If anything, the actual percentage is even higher than 20%, seeing as major pro-death penalty countries aren't even on the list: Saudi Arabia (~30 million), Iran (~77 million), and Nigeria (~176 million) - all of which polls show have 50+% approval for an apostasy death penalty! Even without them, with Bangladesh (~156 million people) at 38% added, the "big three" of Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Egypt, easily outweigh the "moderates" in Turkey and Indonesia.

@CullTheLivingFlower

9 жыл бұрын

HerrRoehrich That's a good point. I noticed Iran wasn't there but totally forgot about Saudi Arabia or some of the majority Muslim countries in Africa. Indeed, the percentage could easily be more than 20 and yet some people just refuse to accept the reality of the situation.

@Ruby3cat

9 жыл бұрын

I also love how Cenk points out countries in which ''only 10%'' believe in the death penalty for apostasy as though 10% is not a fucking GIANT number of people. Let's imagine that 10% of Christians in the USA believed in the death penalty for apostasy - can you imagine how fucking outraged Cenk would be? Does anyone really think that he'd be saying ''well, 90% of American Christians DON'T believe in that so let's all calm down''?

@DrH5N1

9 жыл бұрын

Ya the problem with your quick math is you are miss leaded by wrong numbers and you add to those errors MORE errors and you put the life of a lot of peoples on the line here .. ANy way you are Brainwashed little useless shit who need to open a fucking book and educate your soon to be sorry ass WUSSIE boy

@Tommybotham

9 жыл бұрын

HerrRoehrich There is no death penalty for Apostasy in Nigeria.

I bet so many people who claim to be well educated on religion they only read one book and not even finished it but quick on making comment . I want to know if Sam or bill ever read Quran

@thelistener8357

3 жыл бұрын

@Shane Starrette My ass

Do you ever really listen to what you say. You are so prejudiced in the way you speak.

Dude, you call out the 20% number as being unsupported, claiming that Sam Harris doesn't have any polls to support what he said, but you stopped the clip right before the part where Sam Harris provides one of the polls that supports that number. What are you doing? You're supposed to be an intelligent thinker.

@BighnicHnicBAWSESTATUS

7 жыл бұрын

And Sam clearly said "arguably 20%" he didnt just throw the number out as factual.... He doesnt have to name a poll to support what he said because he let them know with one word that the #20% is only a matter of opinion, that one word being "arguably". He should have answered the question about what poll is that from..... like this Poll? fuckin my Poll i guess. I dont owe you an explanation of where it came from you jack off....I clearly said ITS ARGUABLE, DEBATABLE, MATTER OF OPINION, as I made the statement...

@KillerBrees

Жыл бұрын

You think Cenk is an intellectual?? His Joe Rogan rants alone eliminate that possibility.

@TrevorIsCommenting

Жыл бұрын

@@KillerBrees I used to feel like he was up until certain things like that he was saying.

@KeanuReevolution

Жыл бұрын

Ok but didn't Cenk literally give some data himself? What are you doing, aren't you supposed to be rational and have some critical thinking skills for that level of arrogance?

@chrisw9534

Жыл бұрын

@@KeanuReevolution Dude, it's been years...Cenk is an intellectually dishonest clown. That is all.

Who gives a shit what Ben Affleck says?

@KrisBendix

7 жыл бұрын

Because he is Batman!

@bangtantrappedme2152

7 жыл бұрын

you because you are here :)

@FierceTartan

7 жыл бұрын

+Kris Bendix lol

@christophergrabenhorst904

7 жыл бұрын

Who cares what Sam Harris has to say?

@stiglarsen543

7 жыл бұрын

+Chris Grabenhorst Sam Harris is educated and has examined this subject in many years. Of course we should at least consider his arguments

Cenk Uygur was not doing a good job of addressing the points actually said and the positions of Bill Maher or Sam Harris. For one, Bill Maher was not saying that all Billion and a half Muslims hold pernicious harmful views. What he said was “just not true!” was when Ben Affleck said that all of them do not hold those views, as in none of them hold any pernicious views.

@jacuzzihot

4 ай бұрын

Nothing worse than Judaism. I am not kidding.

i don’t think cenk or ben realize that islam is a set of ideas, not a race

Cenk made a lot of mistakes, but here's two big ones -- 1) Bill Maher: "A billion people you say? All these billion people don't hold any of those per -- [interrupted] -- don't hold these pernicious beliefs? I would..[mumbling and interruptions] - that's just not true, Ben." Cenk Unger: "...Bill Maher saying, 'No, over a billion Muslims. All of them. Not a small minority. Not even, you know, a significant minority.' No, he said, 'That's not true. All of them hold those opinions.' He might not have literally said "all," but when Affleck talked about over a billion people, Maher said, 'That's not true, they do hold those - [babble] - over a billion people hold, what, radical views.'" So, maybe Cenk missed it because of the interruption, and because Bill Maher worded it poorly, but Maher was clearly trying to say something like, "You don't think that out of a billion people [or a billion-five, as Affleck points out], there aren't any people who hold any of these pernicious views?" I think from context it's clear that this is what Maher was trying to say, which makes Cenk's further accusations that Maher and Harris were talking about "all Muslims," or nearly all Muslims, incorrect. 2) Sam Harris: “Just imagine some concentric circles here. You have at the center, you have Jihadists. These are people who wake up in the morning wanting to kill apostates, wanting to die trying. They believe in paradise, they believe in martyrdom. Outside of them we have Islamists. These are people who are just as convinced of martyrdom and paradise, and wanting to foist their religion on the rest of humanity. But they want to work within the system. They’re not going to blow themselves up on a bus. They want to change governments; they want to use democracy against itself. That, those two circles, arguably, are 20% of the Muslim world...” Cenk Unger: “...but the negative way of addressing that is, ‘All Muslims believe this.’ And then based on that poll and a couple others I saw, I’ll make up a number of 20% who all are radical Islamists who would like to blow people up.” So, this is just Cenk blatantly misrepresenting what Sam Harris has said. Not to mention that Affleck could have taken him up on the offer to talk about where the 20% figure came from, and he didn’t. We don’t know if Harris had a sound basis for the claim (although he addresses it a little in parts not shown here, but not enough to actually justify the 20% figure). Cenk turns around with one study on Muslim attitudes about the death penalty among various Muslim countries, and without doing any math regarding the sample sizes in question, he concludes the 20% figure is bullshit - also without any real foundation. Now, Sam Harris’s mistake was that he didn’t say what proportion of the 20% was the type to kill people, and which part were the hardline theocrats who were a threat to liberty. But I think it’s clear enough from context that he meant for the killing group to be a much smaller portion of the 20% than the hardline non-killers. After all, the killers were supposed to be the innermost circle of concentric circles; suggesting that the next (non-killing) circle outward is larger (duh). Cenk is just being deliberately uncharitable and misleading in interpreting Harris’s argument. He does this with Maher and Harris's statements all through the video in order to wrongly portray them as saying that all Muslims are violent extremists.

Bill Maher's point completely flew over your head.

Mr. Cenk Uygur come back to Islam (peace) Rumi says; " who ever you are .Wanderer, worshiper, lover of leaving. Ours is not caravan of dispair. Come even if you have broken your vows a thousand times. Come yet again. Come. Come " Allah bless all.

I am a muslim I live in Pakistan and ill tell u that we dont make explosives or talk about killing people or have arms in our houses or bash american ppl or any religion for that matter . we are as normal as other people living in america we eat, enjoy and talk about memes, superhero movies and fortnite e.t.c Stop believing in stereotype shit about muslims we all want peace !

Sam Harris is an intellectual train wreck.

@AnomalousAppendages

9 жыл бұрын

Lol... How naive of you to say so. Go read a book or two instead of trying to hang around with the big boys.

@y3ee3e

9 жыл бұрын

Anomalous AP Lol his book is for the mentally deficient you slobbering neanderthal.

Hahaha Cenk and Ben Affleck trying to argue with Sam Harris is like one-armed kids playing basketball against Michael Jordan in his prime.

@2kzoltan

9 жыл бұрын

Only if you're a simpleton.

@MrAhuraMazda

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and do you know how many brilliant scientist and physicists lived in Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany was one of the smartest societies in the 20th century. Physicists A LOT smarter than you or Sam Harris were Nazis. And obviously they were bigoted monsters. "The mother of all bad ideas" as Sam Harris would say isn't not willing to criticize Islamophobia, but agreeing with someone simply because they're smart. Being "brilliant" can be achieved without once checking whether the person is bigoted or even a psychopath. At the end of the day all of Sam Harris's research and studying can and will never override his hatred for Muslims. It's seeping through every carefully padded word he said, you'd have to be an idiot not to see that.

@VennThuria

9 жыл бұрын

MrAhuraMazda187 The brilliant minds you are talking about were Germans. Very few of them also were Nazis.

@MrAhuraMazda

9 жыл бұрын

Richard Schwarz Actually they were Nazis. I get it, you're Jewish and you can't bring yourself to praise Nazis in any way shape or form. And I'm not trying to praise them, but they were brilliant. And not the Jewish scientists who worked in Germany who fled, I know the names. I'm talking about the Nazis. Their leading thinkers and scientists; they were brilliant

@MrAhuraMazda

9 жыл бұрын

Richard Schwarz Well maybe not full blown Nazis, but Nazi sympathizers (you'd have to go back to before the turn of the 20th century to see where the science of studying Jewish inferiority began, in France, so yeah they weren't Nazis, but they were). For instance, Richard Wagner is probably the third most brilliant composer in the history of man behind Beethoven and Mozart. He was very sympathetic to Germany's Jewish problem. Despite that he never wore a swastika. But yea, he was beyond measurable brilliance. Wagner is a genius

Ask Maher if we can criticise Israel.

This video does such a good job at completely derailing the context and intents in the real video of Bill Maher and Sam Harris. Lost a lot of respect with one.

Cenk stop saying Sam Harris is somehow both not criticizing Christians and on the Christians side.

@karnak333

9 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris is critical of all religion. Though Bill Maher is more passionate in the criticism of Islamic religion. Sam Harris is anti-religion.

@kartikwaghmare2867

9 жыл бұрын

karnak333 That is largely because Islam is a real threat to our life as we know it, today.

@karnak333

9 жыл бұрын

Kartik Waghmare Islam is not a threat, fanatics muslims are. If you honestly believe it is a threat to life as we know it, you are giving a massive hyperbola.

Water buffaloes are adorable.

@greigrattray7685

7 жыл бұрын

WordsAreLikeRivers finally a comment I can get behind

@mygenderisapacheapache9926

7 жыл бұрын

WordsAreLikeRivers sometimes

@baleriaguzman2399

7 жыл бұрын

WordsAreLikeRivers

Can't believe he was Batman

Interesting observation: A majority of the countries that are most radicalized on that chart shown have had some form of MILITARY involvement that crumbles their stability and economy. And we all know what comes with shitty socio-economic circumstances. I hope, with the right kind of leadership, these countries flourish down the line and are able to weed out all forms of radicalism.

@dreamrabbits5072

3 жыл бұрын

They needed military intervention because they are so crappy and horrible to their own people.

When someone drew prophet's cartoon in the past, all we heard and preached from the mosques was: Don't resort to any violent responses, That is not our religion. That is not Islam. And I'm sure this is the case in 99% of Muslims. They see Islam as the path to spiritual purification not through violence or extremism, but through love, kindness, and compassion. The radicals who see war or violence as a shortcut path to paradise or Jannah, are Not Muslims, They are Terrorists, and true enemies of Islam.

@abdelrahmansadawey3042

6 жыл бұрын

array s , wow , why TF do you think you know our religion more than we do ? Genuinely?

@Tim0909

6 жыл бұрын

Look at statistics of % of muslims that support harsh islamic doctrine

@hamadachebahi572

6 жыл бұрын

true

@matthew6871

6 жыл бұрын

Peace and Love Brother

@prab231

6 жыл бұрын

Its hilarious how these Americans think statistics from bias media its accurate.

Based on Affleck's (and YOUR logic), it's bigoted to say anything about Nazis. As long as a single Nazi had a desk job and didn't commit any atrocities, and may have even opposed the movement, then you can't make a comment against Nazis because you're generalizing ALL Nazis. It's ok to criticize Nazis just like it's ok to criticize Islam. It's called criticizing IDEAS. NO ONE in the conversation ever said all Muslims are bad. God damn you people need to think once in a while. I was very liberal a year ago. TYT has single-handedly moved me further to the right. Because their arguments are SO FAR OFF sometimes.

@aabudher2088

9 жыл бұрын

Then if we go by your logic, most Nazis were German that does not mean ALL Germans are Nazis because not all of them accept the ideology of Nazism. Just like in Islam, not all Muslims accept the fundamental ideologies that are used to apply a certain agenda for a small extreme minority.

@fygtree

9 жыл бұрын

The parallel with Nazism doesn't work. Those who opposed the Nazi movement in war also happened to witness Nazism emerge and rise to power. We could therefore know exactly what it's true intention was and it's sole purpose for existing was to assert an idea of racial hierarchy which meant certain groups should be destroyed. Islam is not such a movement. Islam has centuries of history where we see it impact civilization positively. But more than that, it's a central and and revered faith of millions of honest, hardworking people. For brash Americans to then boldly assert as a matter of 'fact' that hatred and violence are THE core aspects of this faith system just because it fits with their condemnation of terrorist assholes is bigotted. You don't get to just decide what the core elements are of a faith you don't subscribe to especially one with such a complex and layered history - no less so than a faith system that underlies western society - Christianity. It's culturally and historically ignorant.

@peterpan7486

9 жыл бұрын

Fygtree I disagree. The parallel between Nazism and Islam does work. Nazism was about racial hierarchy while Islam was about religious hierarchy. Hitler wanted a revolution with the strategic goal of his own race ruling the world. Muhammad wanted a revolution with the strategic goal of Islam ruling the world. Both used war and terror in the pursuit of strategic political goals. Hitler conquered part of Europe. Muhammad conquered part of the Middle East. One was a racial fascist. One a religious fascist.

@peterpan7486

9 жыл бұрын

Peter Pan Battle of Hunayn Muslims: 5 killed[256] Non-Muslims: 70 killed,[255] 6000 women and children captured To attack the people of Hawazin and Thaqif for refusing to surrender to Muhammad and submit to Islam because "they thought that they were too mighty to admit or surrender" after the Conquest of Mecca

@johnanthony9923

9 жыл бұрын

Mody ilCapo What does all Nazis being German have to do with anything? All Nazis were Europeans also. And they were all humans. So what? No one ever said if you criticize a group, you are automatically criticizing every group it's a subset of. That's obviously absurd. And using that logic, you can't criticize ISIS because it's a subset of Muslims....humans...etc. My point was that just because every member of a group doesn't follow it the same way doesn't mean you can't criticize the group/ideology itself.

This to me seems like that they are afraid of Islam.go to the library pick up the Qur'an and read it then judge it

The Young TURDS!!!

Why the anchor in every episode says he is an ex-muslim..he should rather paste a poster in his head of ex Muslim😂😂😂😂

@ezlife658

5 жыл бұрын

He is a stupid coward

The host misquoted Bill Maher.

@emmanuelnwogu3673

8 жыл бұрын

+Joel Pennell the lie is so real.

Ugh. I can't even watch anymore of this. I came to Turks cause I thought I would hear some reason. No one is just picking on Islam over other religions. They are doing so just in this conversation but as the host even pointed out Harris bashes all religions not just Islam. His beef is with liberals who are either afraid to criticize what goes on in these Islamic countries or just too lazy to. I agree Islam is not the problem the problem is liberals who refuse to take up causes to help Muslims like Hamza Kashgari when Saudi courts imprison him for making heretical tweets about Mohammed. Cenk goes on to conflate Harris's number of 20 percent. Cenk claims that Harris believes that 20 percent of Muslims want to blow things up. Liar! Cmon, he never said that. He said 20 percent want to create a muslim state in the world with muslim laws and muslim beliefs. Included in this bunch are Muslims that would blow themselves up but that is a small percentage. Cenk seems to believe the only problem with Islam is young teenagers blowing themselves up.It's not! There are so many other issues with Islam outdate take on society that needs to be discussed. Cenk criticizes Sam Harris for his inaccuracies but then goes on spit out lies like female mutilation. Yes, some christian countries do that(half christian/the other half is muslim), but most are full muslim countries. Sam Harris point is that we should try to help the countries. NO ONE said we should bomb them . What is Cenk smoking!!!? Look I understand, when someone attacks your culture, no matter how much you hate your culture you become apologists for it. It's very normal. I do the same with my background even when I am fully aware of how stupid it is. In the case of Cenk and Ben Affleck he has found his background, liberalism under attack and it's clear he has become an apologist for it.

@OsefKincaid

9 жыл бұрын

"No one is just picking on Islam over other religions" Actually, you're going to have to demonstrate that, cause Maher has been doing a good job of convincing me that's exactly what he was doing.

@rockmyballsplease

9 жыл бұрын

OsefKincaid That's your response to my entire post??? Watch his movie religilous. He barely mentions Islam compared to christianity. I don't have to defend Bill's record and frankly I am more interested in what Sam Harris has to say.

@OsefKincaid

9 жыл бұрын

rockmyballsplease No, it's not my response to your entire post, it's my response to the part I quoted. Which is why I quoted it. I haven't read your entire post, to be honest. If you want to defend Harris, say "Harris", not "no one". "no one" includes Maher.

@rockmyballsplease

9 жыл бұрын

I was including Maher, but the rest of my post is about Harris.

Ben was right. You can say people and actions are evil and we should do something. But trying to argue one religion is worse than the other is BS and utterly pointless.

Brought to you by the Young Turds. Keep it up

I think the part that wasn't getting into Affleck's head was that Maher and Harris were saying the majority hold extreme views. What they meant was the majority have oppressive beliefs about women and homosexuals - not that they all are terrorists or jihadists. Harris said himself, there is a small core of jihadists, then a small outer ring of people who believe in what the jihadists do, but take a political route rather than a violent one, and then around that is a large swath of Muslims who hold extreme views when it comes to women and homosexuals. All Affleck was hearing is that an extreme Muslim must mean a violent one, and that is totally not what they were saying. Ben came across as a baby here.

@VisArtVisuals

9 жыл бұрын

You stole all my sentences. well done

@unadultratedtrini

9 жыл бұрын

Yes it is true but America as a society are babies. This is the reason he acted the way he did. They are promoting in a way the war against Islam. They cannot see the damage of the manner in which they are speaking because they do not understand their majority audience which are the people who are not well educated and cannot read between lines let alone understand what a sentence literally means.

@unadultratedtrini

9 жыл бұрын

bigvirgotube I agree but most Christians who take the time to post are either educated or ignorant. The majority don't and would most likely be swayed to belief in a need to eradicate Islam on the whole because of the way they promoted the argument.

@christianalexanderthegreat8941

9 жыл бұрын

Your comment deserves +1000

@Phelan666

9 жыл бұрын

Ayy

PEOPLE GENERALIZE ABOUT ISLAM ALL THE TIME.

@arthurharper432

9 жыл бұрын

As a woman, how can you believe or defend your so called religion or cult? Islamic law does not consider women mentally or legally the equal of males. Additionally, children are perceived as the "substance of the male" and merely incubated by the female body. In the case of divorce, women lose all custody of children. Are you that stupid???

@freedom1322009101

9 жыл бұрын

Arthur Harper I could go through the Christian bible right now and read some passages as to how woman and children should be treated. So should I judge all Christians on that?

@hemantkarasala5767

9 жыл бұрын

Girl, Sam Harris bases his opinons on polls he took. It aint a generalisation, he quotes the polls as is. Apparently he found a significant chunk of population agreeing with some terrorists actions even though they aint terrorists themselves. That is Sam's point- the fundamentalist ideology is far more spread than the actual fundamentalists themselves.

@Acer061270

9 жыл бұрын

freedom1322009101 the point is not how we definite the koran or the bible (books were writing a very long time ago) the point is how much fits this attitude to the year 2014.

@Acer061270

9 жыл бұрын

Hans Thorsen like I said... you can't diskuss with people who justify everything "what happen hundreds of years ago".

Ben, you the man.

@7Be

5 жыл бұрын

Really? How?? Ben was rediculous the entire time

I know plenty of muslims who are genuine good/nice people. Of course many of them have different views than mine but they are still good hearted people. I know there are many very radical ones but they are everywhere in every culture and religion.

@hannafarah2864

9 жыл бұрын

theres radicals in football, forget religion

@GlyNkaa

9 жыл бұрын

finally, someone who uses his brain! i am muslim and i am a nice guy and trust me what you see in tv or the internet! believe me they are showing the corrupted ones ,, all the good ones you can't see them because they practise they're usual activities and live peacfull and being humans :) !

@hafiz6908

9 жыл бұрын

sami crx Because who don't know about Islam, exactly? The good hearted people?

@notalefty999

9 жыл бұрын

The Muslims you personally know are A) a self selecting group, and B) such a tiny proportion of all Muslims that even if they werent self selecting, they could hardly be considered representative. So judging Muslims in general on the basis of personal acquaintances is pretty fatuous. You should instead look at the aggregate of data from polls of representative samples of Muslims. And those polls indicate a truly alarming degree of fundamentalist and highly problematic sentiment. Yes, every religion has it loonies, but its a matter of proportions. If 10% of Christians thought that the penalty for leaving the faith should be death, this would be considered very alarming. Yet 10% of Muslims supporting the death penalty for apostasy is actually a low percentage for majority Muslim countries. And there are countless issues on which the opinions of hundreds of millions of Muslims are appalling.

@hafiz6908

9 жыл бұрын

sami crx Judging from your statement, you will obviously going to deny my answer as well. I wanna know the definition of 'good hearted' from your angle, give me the example of good hearted non-muslim, and what make them qualified to gain that status.