Thank you. Good all around fair review. T)

Really honest review. Thanks!

Bro, your laundry is done. 😂 Very nearly every brand out there using ETA and Selitta movements out their own rotor on it, maybe regulate it, and then call it by their own caliber name. Rado, Longines, Mido, Hamilton, Chris Ward, Mo LaCroix, Raymond Weil, Tag Heuer, Bretiling, even IWC (which has the 2892 movement in a few of it's $4k+ watches). Faulting this watch for B&R doing the same seems silly. As for decrying the SW300 in particular, I encourage you to do some research. It is not merely a copy of the 2892, but features several technical improvements that make it, in many folks' opinions, superior to the 2892, even if based on the latter's design.

@FeelingsChat

5 жыл бұрын

Lionel.Hutz yes laundry was still wet though. I have no problems with the watches you mentioned above, what I have a problem is that this 3k$ Watch using a basic undecorated nonchronometer grade movement. Had they used a higher grade eta based movement I would’ve been fine with it.

So this is a Tag competitor or a Tag fighter (i.e. punching above its weight class into Tags)? And the movement is similar to Hamilton's? Wow. Didn't know that. Thanks for the insight.

Maybe they dont use best movements, but I now own a BR03 from 2009 and and BR123 from around 2012 or so and both work great. The winding is still very smooth and dont lose time. It doesnt have the brand name of Omega or Rolex, but I think the president said he wanted to make a watch that the non watch guy looks at and knows its a very nice quality watch. As far as being more design oriented, Id say thats true, and the BR01 and Br03 are kinda a design highlight of the 2000's. I think attention to design costs money and that crystal is a a lot more bubbly than my Longines Big eye.

Shame about the movement, it’s a great looking watch.

Renaming of ETA movements happens all the time. Longines branded movements are all rebadged ETAs. Same with Glycine. The idea that a Hamilton Powermatic 80 is the same as an ETA-2892 (or the Sellita equiv) is a joke. Guess what the Tag "Calibre 5" is? ETA 2824. They sell that in $2400 Aqua Racers that are nowhere NEAR as nice as this. Guess what Omega used prior to going in-house? ETA-2892, same as this. Before Tudor went in-house they also were using modified ETA-2824s, and I don't recall anyone calling the original Black Bay overpriced crap.

@FeelingsChat

5 жыл бұрын

Hey David appreciate the comment, funny you mention Hamilton powermatic 80, I review that movement in both Hamilton and tissot on my channel check it out. No disagreements with you above, I obviously bought this watch because of it’s amazing execution of the dial and glass... it doesn’t change the fact that BR was negligent in their movement finishing... 3k for a non modified Sellita is unacceptable when the brand has no true heritage (like a Tudor , Cartier, or even tag)

@rumvodkaf1

5 жыл бұрын

My Aquaracer has a standard sellita with a plastic holder, doesn't stop them from increasing the price every couple of years.

@adbraham

5 жыл бұрын

I’d agree with that except to say, that unfortunately, IMO, ETA movements are much better than there SW counterparts, if this watch contained a 2892-2, I’d be very happy, but unfortunately SW don’t seem to be as well made imo, a sad fact I’ve discovered through personal experience, which was corroborated by a watch maker I spoke to, who told me he sees SW movements in for repair far more frequently than ETA! Admittedly this applies to the the SW equivalent of the 2824-2, rather than 2892-2, but “once bitten, twice shy” as they say!

@hogongman4279

4 жыл бұрын

David Kay theirs nothing wrong with the Hamilton powermatic 80 movement what so ever! It’s a solid movement with an 80 hour power reserve. But at least Hamilton put the work in and made it theirs! In my opinion, any watch that uses an ETA movement and does not produce its own in house movements should not be asking this much money! This in all reality is a $1000 watch at best! It is not worth what their asking! Rolex, Omega, I can see why they ask what they ask because they in house produce every part of their watch! You can find just reliable of a movement in Hamilton Tissot and Glycine. And pay thousands less.

@cy4624

3 жыл бұрын

The problem with B&R calling this watch Vintage series is a joke. They started out relabeling Sinn in 1993 then came out with one gimmick after another just like their fake pilot watches no pilot used. Lot of brands you mentioned,you are paying for heritage as well, not pure bs manufactured history. The Glycine's including Airman actually has aviation history/military history and can be had for less than this overmarketed and priced garbage.

My 2019 Bell & Ross keeps better time than my 2017 Rolex Datejust.

What’s wrong with Hamilton? If you handed me an automatic Hamilton Khaki or this? I’d choose the Hamilton any day of the week over this! Despite the huge price difference.

It’s a shame that Swatch Group have decided to stop selling ETA to external companies, if this had a ETA 2892-2 in it I’d be happy, whilst I have no direct experience of its SW equivalent, I do have experience of the SW equivalent of the 2824-2, and frankly it’s not good, no matter what those extolling it’s virtues (mainly manufactures trying to flog these products) would have us believe! I had a long conversation with a watchmaker who sees both ETA & SW in for repair, & his experience corroborates my own. Doubtless I’ll get shit from owners of SW powered watches with over inflated egos, who refuse to accept that their choices are anything other than perfect, but not only do I have personal experience to go on (small sample, so possibly not representative), but the opinion of a professional who repairs both, day in, day out!

@artagain8977

3 жыл бұрын

How is the ETA better than the Sellita?