Why are they referred to as "both breeds" when they're the same breed with different coat variation? They all originate from the same black herding dogs that is thought to be the origin of schipperke as well and originally the color varieties of belgians weren't tightly defined. In fact when the breed was in the 19th century categorized as belgian shepherds, it was divided in three varieties: long, short and rough coated. Not by color and there were multiple variations known back then, nobody just considered them different to each other. Groenendael and tervueren weren't even considered separate variety. Furthermore in Finland if a groenendael gets brown or grey coated puppies, they are registered as tervueren. And if malinois gets tervueren puppies, they are registered as tervueren. That's how different the "breeds" are. You can easily find tables demonstrating all the belgian varieties that can be born in a litter. It should be pretty obvious that they are not different breeds if say groenendael parents can get tervueren puppies and so on. Anecdotal comments about individual personalities aren't very strong data on the varieties being different. I feel like this video is confusing exhibition lines versus working lines with varieties. Because the video is describing exhibition line qualities as groenendael qualities and working line qualities as tervueren qualities.

@shepherddogsite2783

7 ай бұрын

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Nope. Coat color is the only distinguishing feature between the “varieties” only in the USA are they separate breeds.

@belgian_groenendael

8 ай бұрын

I think the part about Groenendael being slightly more stubborn and aloof is true. Mine sure exhibits that character.

@MrLobodediablo

8 ай бұрын

We’ll have to agree to disagree about coat color causing behavior changes. My Belgian sheepdog has a littermate that is Tervuren color.

@coffeehugger

4 ай бұрын

My Hungarian Groen has Tervuren and even Mal in her pedigree, it's all one breed except the US. Yup.

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@shepherddogsite2783

4 ай бұрын

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