I love German reviews, zero mumbo-jumbo bullshit, all numbers and measures, technically literate and objective. Brilliant video! 🙂👍🖖

3 жыл бұрын

Right!?!?!?!

@peterchoe

3 жыл бұрын

cringe

@KarolMamot

3 жыл бұрын

Kraftwerk speech style 🙂

@brainboyandthefunkybunch6516

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterchoe how is that cringe do you have a problem with clear cut info

@peterchoe

3 жыл бұрын

@@brainboyandthefunkybunch6516 I have a problem with the racialized glorification of a country when it has no pertinence to the quality of data being discussed. That's what's cringe. Are germans all somehow a homogeneous intellectual body?

This channel makes audio interface shopping easy.

@mikechahal9734

2 ай бұрын

Did you get it? How did you like it?!

The fact, that the headphone output shows distortion at higher settings is not because of a bad construction, it is fully intentional. The potentiometer is layed out to overdrive the amplifier. When you hear music with 0 dB maximum volume over USB, then the volume setting on the headphone output is intended to be set around 12 o'clock. The additional volume is intended for direct monitoring while recording. Here you set the inputs so, that your DAW get's a signal around -12 dB. If the headphone's output maximum setting was at 0 dB, the headphone volume would be much too low for a decent monitor signal. With this overdrive function you can crank it up to a comfortable monitor volume without any distortion. Perfect! Not many interfaces have this. I would also mention, that the so-called main output is only relevant, when you want to amplify the direct monitoring signal to your speakers. If you do not need this, use the playback outputs to connect the interface to your equipment. I use a regular consumer grade integrated amplifier and connect both the playback and the main output to it, so that i can switch between them and in this case the consumer output level the interface delivers fits perfectly. And it is not correct, that output A plays the same signal as output B. You can choose in your application or in your OS, which of the outputs 1/2 or 3/4 you want to use for playback, so that with the right settings both outputs can play different signals at the same time. For instance in DJ software for playback of two decks connected to an external mixer or one stereo output for the main signal and the other for the PFL signal to use the application's internal mixer. The monitor A/B switch at the front toggles the headphone signal between these outputs, which is exactly the function needed for this purpose. DJs should also check out the cheaper UMC204HD with only two inputs and the same 4 outputs, monitoring section and MIDI interface as in the 404.

I just want to say that your reviews are easily the best on the internet. You keep everything objective and measureable, and you avoid common myths and focus on the stuff that actually matters. Very much appreciated. Also, I currently use the UMC1820. I don't know if you are planning on reviewing that one, but I'm curious to know how mine compares to the other models because it looks like the 404 suffers a few problems that the 202 doesn't. Thank you for your work!

Having done a lot of live multitrack recording, please allow me to clear up how this design makes sense. Connect the TWO balanced stereo "MAIN" outputs (TRS / XLR) to TWO remote headphone amps. Connect the "A" balanced stereo output to a remote headphone amp. All of the above receive the IN/OUT mix. The "B" balanced output receives no live input mix, only DAW output (send this to the engineer's monitor speakers). The "MON A/B" switch allows the local headphone amp on the unit to switch between the above two. This allows the engineer to send a live input / DAW output mix to three remote headphone amps, all stereo and fully balanced, while retaining a stereo balanced line output (B) from the DAW to monitor speakers and the headphone output on the unit, while being able to switch his own headphones to monitor the live mix (A) that is being sent to the remote headphone amps. It is actually an excellent design, but you have to think about it to know why.

@emilionegrete5513

2 жыл бұрын

genious!!!!

@nononononegative

2 жыл бұрын

Is this explained in the manual? Seems like a big oversight if not.

@Richies_Beer_n_Gear

2 жыл бұрын

@@nononononegative Not that I know of, I figured it out on my own and decided to share it here to hopefully help others.

@vigneshkarthikeyan8174

2 жыл бұрын

@@Richies_Beer_n_Gear and you have helped. Thanks sir

@vigneshkarthikeyan8174

2 жыл бұрын

@@Richies_Beer_n_Gear hey Richard, if you were to just need this to connect to a consumer line level device, what would you stick between this device and the device to get the right gain between the two?

Great review, thank you. I bought this after gifting the Behringer UMC22 to a friend and was so impressed by that little model, I got this version. The latency and sound quality are fantastic. Low noise and if you record at the correct level, I challenge you to find the difference between a converter at this price, and a converter worth 5* as much. I know I couldn't, and so my custom converters have been sold. This thing is a little gem.

Thanks a lot, Julian, I'm going to hear that presonus self-noise ringing in my ears all day! :)

Rates within the best informative and technically rich review videos I've seen on KZread. All tech with the data to prove and real testing. No opinion based recommendations. Recommendations based on real tests and comparison with other units is extremely useful. You are helping me make well informed decisions on some important purchases. Thank you!

This is the most thorough review for umc404hd. I have no idea of the headache to find all the specs you showed up here because the manufacturer does not supply all of them. Keep it up!

I've had this unit for a few years now, searched for answers on certain aspects of it with no good result, you just changed that! thanks so much for a clear and professional review, I learned a lot, for one, I'm using the wrong input to my monitors well done! thanks, Clive.

I appreciate your in-depty review of the UMC404HD. I bought one a couple years ago when they first were introduced. My favorite online store was selling them for $99, which was incredible! Before that, I used the Steinberg UR22, but I was always disappointed in the noise level. The Behringer unit is much quieter, and to me, the other negative items you mentioned are not as important... especially now that I know to not overdrive the inputs! Thank you for an excellent review!

Got the MOTU M2. Super satisfied thanks for your reviews brother.

@ArielSasson

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Keep up the great work!

@kalidesu

3 жыл бұрын

yes

@skorpers

3 жыл бұрын

When it gets the single channel option in the drivers it's going to be perfect!

@dantezero5404

3 жыл бұрын

Motu M2 out of stock

Thank you for not acting like an idiot or over over crazy. This was the best review i have ever seen on youtube. Thank you, danke, teşekkürler :)

This is my favourite channel on the web! Numbers, measures, and all the technical data that all the brands never have! Thanks Julian, my best wishes for you!

Thanks for providing such a relevant unbiased review of affordable audio interfaces, for most of the available devices. Highly appreciated, and I have learned so much from your videos. What is so spectacular is that, for over two decades we have had audio interfaces, and you have from nowhere, popped up to highlight so many issues with these devices that are never covered in the magazines and on forums. Highly valuable youtube channel. I do hope you can evolve a more consistent format , of points to compare, so that, in a similar manner to your headphone comparisons, its also much easier to compare the other audio quality parameters. I acknowledge this is a lot of work, but you are the only one doing this, so just take this as a hint for improvement, not as a criticism.

I've had the UMC202HD for a few years now. I have no complaints. It feels solid, it's very low on noise, latency is fine and the sound is neutral. The next upgrade I would make is a Thunderbolt interface like a UAD Apollo Twin Duo because of the DSP's. Friends have Focusrites and Steinbergs. They don't sound much different.

@GiancarloXmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Can confirm, I've had the UAD Apollo 8 duo (black version), the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and now I have the UMC404HD but haven't used it yet. The focusrites are solid clean interfaces, the Apollo however is clearly cleaner and sounds a lot more "alive" whereas the other interfaces seem more passive and transparent

Best review of this interface so far. I have the UMC404 HD and I'm very happy with it.

No one has ever made such a great review! Well done! P.S. It's true that the playback outputs lack direct monitoring, but I've found a way to direct monitor all 4 channels separately - using the inserts as line out (cables with special wiring required). Now I can record 4 tracks and route them separately to the mixer and adjust some balance, EQ and effects there while recording the dry signal.

@xXseyer

2 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video of this? More thanks! ❤️

@VladimirDonkov

Жыл бұрын

@@xXseyer hey, sorry for the loooong delay :) All you need is a TRS to TS cable (4 of them, actually) wired as follows - S to S, T to T and also T bypassed to R on the TRS. This way, the input of the insert is bypassed to output, but also part of the signal goes to the mixer, right after the preamp. This interface is amazingly good for its price. Only the mix output is a bit quiet.

@todosniveles9406

5 ай бұрын

@@VladimirDonkov soundz interesting this! but could you explain a little more about its usage and + other possible applications? from what i understand your using the playback outs and want to be able to hear + record whats going through the inputs simultaneously? when you say your sending them to a mixer, are you referring to another analog mixer for monitoring/recording? thanx

I really appreciate that you talk about the internal chips used. I haven't found anyone else that does that!

I've owned one for 4 years now, still working perfectly

I bought the UMC 1820 a few weeks back. Works great. Has 48v on the front in two groups of four.

@aretoocrazy

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a UMC 1820 almost 2 years ago. I love it. I haven't had any issues with it. I use it almost every day. I have a Behringer Ultragain Pro 8 A/D hooked up to add another 8 inputs. I only use 44.1 since I don't think it makes a difference to what I do. My main DAW is Studio One, but I use it for everything.

@onemanband3579

3 жыл бұрын

@@aretoocrazy I'll probably get the Ultragain too, it would be stupid not to at that price.

I just bought this, and it works great for my needs.

Awesome Review! One thing though: I have this audio interface and I drive it without the power supply. Only with the USB cable. One time I even managed to record 3 different microphones with only the USB power. Cheers!

@chrismamm

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I just measured the current my UMC404HD draws from the USB bus and got the following values: When using external power supply: 0.00 A No external power supply, phantom power off: 0.37 A No ext ps, phantom power on: 0.37 A No ext ps, phantom power on, one condenser mic connected: 0.42 A However, when phantom power is switched on (or the interface is connected with phantom power enabled), there seems to be a current spike, that goes slightly above 0.5 A. This might trigger the over-current protection in some computers or USB hubs.

@David_Logr

2 жыл бұрын

I also run it USB-only, actually lost the psu, lol

Nice to see Behringer improving their quality substantially. This one would be perfect for beginners and also small studios. Great reviews man, super detailed!

I've used this for years. Love it, could be better but for the most part it works for me and my podcast.

Thanks, Julian. More informative than many other channels. I have one of these, based largely on your review. Really only using two of the four inputs at the moment, that will likely change. Re-watching this has cleared up a couple of misunderstandings on my part. Currently running a small Mackie 8 channel mixer into it, with one condenser mic and several line inputs. Audio quality seems very good. Keep up the great work, we need it.

Can't stress enough how useful and enlightening these reviews have been for me, much appreciated Julian!

I picked up one of these on sale a while back for only $100 but I recently replaced it with the Motu M4. Thanks for the detailed reviews!

@aperson4051

3 жыл бұрын

How much better was the M4? I expect that it blew you away?

@taylorsharp5928

3 жыл бұрын

@@aperson4051 I wouldn't say I was blown away. If you use the 404 making sure to stay in the low distortion sweet spots, it's pretty solid. In everyday use, I couldn't tell much difference between the two. But it's nice to not have to worry about finding the sweet spot for low distortion with something like the M4. Also the headphone amp on the 404 is garbage, but I used line out 3/4 to a headphone amp.

That is an incredible analysis. Extremely useful. Thank you!

AND I WAS JUST THINKING OF GETTING THIS. Very timely

@JulianKrause

3 жыл бұрын

Finally my mind reading lessons pay off :)

@killaken2000

3 жыл бұрын

for me it was a toss up between the motu m2 and the ssl2+ but I went with the motu m2 after seeing Julian's shootout video. I'd imagine the motu m4 is also just as good if you want more inputs.

3 жыл бұрын

I have the 202 and I was thinking of upgrading to a 4 input unit :)

@randszzob8590

3 жыл бұрын

@@JulianKrause I actually thought of you reviewing this unit the day before you released it, so my mind control techniques are working well! :) Great review. As an engineer, I want to see the real specs, and that's what you provide. PS The MIDI lights do not indicate audio, Julian. The "D" is for... PPS I enjoyed the 'gain' joke.

Jules your German efficiency and dead pan delivery are on the money!

@peterchoe

3 жыл бұрын

cringe

@Neil-Aspinall

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterchoe What do you mean Pete?

My workhorse ☺ I measured the power it requires from USB bus. It is ~500mAh without and ~515mAh with 48v phantom power switched on. And it can be powered from any charged smartphone or powerbank.

Thanks for the review. I have had the model UMC202HD for a few years and it has always done a great job, never any issues. I am looking at this unit now for the additional mic inputs.

Sehr sachlich un kompetent, ohne Hokuspokus, das liebe ich. In der Audiobranche grassiert ja sonst eher Emotion und Aberglaube, besonders bei Mikrofonen 😉 Daher ist es sehr erholsam soetwas wie Deinen Kanal zu sehen.

I've had one for years, and it has given me zero issues. I think it's an amazing "bang for your buck" interface.

best most detailed audio interface reviews on youtube! thanks!

I don't have anything witty or insightful to say but here's a comment for the algorithm. Great review

@JulianKrause

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, we gotta keep the algorithm happy :)

I have the 404 1 condesner microphone and 1 electric guitar in 2 xlr speakers, headphones and a stereo receiver system from the outs. Everything works perfectly and i have ableton live running over 30 tracks together no problems rendering at full quality (192khz24bit works best for some reason, less then that and i get mismatches with the pc, 2000-4000 buffer also works best).

you do the best reviews, always covering every detail I want to know about. Thank you!

You are the best. No Bias. I have just bought umc202 2 month ago because your review, no regret. Nothing weird. All good. Big Thanks 👍

total support for your kind of review - I get sick of all the fancy-commercial-like talking. keep up the good work

Great video! I have one suggestion tho. At the end of these gear review videos you could provide different alternatives to the products you reviewed and maybe link your reviewes of the alternatives in the description!

Please do a review of the UMC 204HD!

Just FYI : ) The outputs from the Behringer are "only" impedance-balanced. Means only one wire [pin2/+/hot] carries the audio signal in full swing. Pin 3 [minus/cold] is tight to ground via a resistor to match the output impedance. Proper symmetrical, electronically balanced outputs carrying the audio in the two signal lines [Pin2/+/hot and Pin3/ -/cold]. For "noise cancellation" the two audio lines are in opposite polarity, but are equal in amplitude. Behringer [and others] are saving the costs for two op-amp output drivers with their asymmetrical impedance-balanced design.

@JulianKrause

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Behringer and many other interface manufacturers use impedance balancing on their outputs to lower the cost of their products. That said, impedance balancing can be nearly as effective as differential signaling, so I don't think it is too big of a concern.

It's also worth mentioning that the mono button is part of the monitoring area and has no affect while recording through usb.

Good review, thanks man. No tedious unboxing, no BS and good tech content. Nice one.

I’ve had one of these for years, and it’s my go to for when I’m traveling. Who else has inserts on an interface? I chain a compressor and an exciter to the insert and put a preamp in between the mic and interface, and I get audio gold even before mixdown.

Spectacular review. The best I've seen about audio interfaces. Thank you!

Excellent review! this is the way they should be done, hard data and facts!

As always this was a great presentation of the UMC 404hd. I am aware that you have limited time to put this presentation together but I have a general thought for all content creators; How come the discussion of the midi ports are left out? I have purchase audio interfaces where the midi ports just didn't work. Also, you didn't discuss DAW application. With the behringer does it come with a driver? I check Ableton and found that it is not listed in the preferences. So along with the variables you have discuss it would have been great to know what the setup will be like. With all that I have written, whenever I want an honest, and detailed analysis of a product I check with you first. Please keep up the great work.

I have UMC204HD and it works flawlessly on Linux.

@miralirica3238

3 жыл бұрын

What DAW do you use? Thanks!

@jperfection

3 жыл бұрын

@@miralirica3238 I use it with Waveform and Audacity but you can use it with any Linux DAW (Bitwig, Ardour, REAPER, Renoise, ...).

Do you have to use the DC power supply? I have the 202 and don't use it but a looking at a used 404 without one, so it might matter.

Just sub, I am now a fan. Keep making this content :)

just subscribed. Love all the real data on these. That's a lot of work to measure this stuff. Thanks.

A clear, concise, balanced and well-presented review; thank you!

Thank you for clear explanation with diagram for output which i can not find on product manual, it really help

THANK YOU! I've been looking at so many listings and videos trying to find out if the playback outputs are balanced TRS or unbalanced TS. Thanks a ton!

Really good review, great job! So many wannabe testers takes zillions of item' photos, how it looks like, talking something useless about what they see (but already viewer had seen it before video too) and... "Oh, a review, so it's looks great, working great, I plug guitar (ding ding) and I hear it, really worth to buy, plz subscribe". All of that garbage does not have even 1% of useful like this video. Thanks.

Excellent review, just what I was looking for.

Great review. You always put a lot of work into your reviews. Much appreciated brother.

You make the best reviews without no doubt! Better than "sos" and all the others! Wow, keep up this shannel and you will be contacted by all the big names to make reviews! 5 points

Absolutely awesome technical review!

I love your reviews, thank you so much for your content!

Thank you for this most useful review, as I have on of these units on the way to me right now!

Excellent comprehensive review. Thank you!

Another very detailed video. It would be nice if you could add the Allen & Heath Zedi 10 mixer to your list so you could do a review like this of its built-in USB audio interface.

Thank you Julian for making these reviews

Hi. Thanks for the explanation. I'm new to this subject. Really appreciate

Thanks for all your videos Julian.

Excellent review. Thank you, Julian.

Hey, great review. Keep 'em coming

Glad I watched this, was considering many options and the low price of the Behringer makes it tempting however I assumed you would be able to switch between A and B monitors so glad I didn’t pull the trigger. Gonna go with Motu instead. Thanks 👍

Very detailed info! Thanks Julian!

Thanks Jules. You answered my question as to whether I should use the pad or not when recording my snare drum. Best just to turn the input to a low level. Cheers.

I have this interface, this video was surprisingly helpful

Great information and comparison using your graphs.

Love your channel, super helpful!

This is a review like it should be. No nonse. I wonder if it is possible to crank up the output of the UMC by changing some resitors in the opamp output circuit to match -10dBv and +4dBu. A schematic would be welcome. Great Job Julian. Thanx.

Thank you for confirming the distortion I hear on the 204's monitoring.

That's great review, with clear tips regarding how to get the best out of this gear, based on measurements.

Great review. Lots of good info!

Such a good video!!! So well explained and reviewed.

Thank you. Great review, and very useful.

The pad/noise thing you mentioned in the beginning of the video, only happens when you track, mix and bounce to 16bit. I pad everything and I track, mix and bounce to 24bit. Never heard any noise.

Dear Julian..A rare study n analysis,too tough a title to present..b cas..without tech.overlap..these DEMO.cant be presented..Many slip into Tech jargon,,or a .novice.without even Basic Tech Knowledge.Blabbers on U Tube..SUCH a vast U TUBE Platform Availability is a Gift .now a days..YOU ARE THE WRIGHT MAN ON THE WRIGHT JOB,,,Thank you Julian...Thank you U TUBE TEAM...DrNanda..India

Very thorough! Well done 👍

Another great review, very useful for me, helped me decide to order this model. One thing I notice in reviews of interfaces generally is that no one mentions the quality of the analog to digital conversion. Does that mean the conversion is such high quality in most devices now that there is no need to mention it ?

Beringer have really been sticking down people's throats the last few years. They used to make trash but interesting devices but these days it's quality. The brown sewn on elbow patch brigade love to jump on them. I bought this 3 years ago to replace my Focusrite saffire 24 dsp Pro as I no longer had firewire (damn you connector wars) for a quick and cheap fix, honestly no need to upgrade for home studio use. Unbelievable value.

Hi Julian, does the 404 also has the same issue, as the 204 where the headphone monitor are spilt in left/right channel? Cuz that would be a big deal breaker for me, would love anyone to corfirm this for me.

*such* a great technical review

Just wow... well done man!

Awesome video. Thanks so much!

Your reviews are so comprehensive, I love them. Keep it up. I would like to hear your thoughts on this interface compared to the presonus 24c.

@dipoput

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think you need to worry about that much, Yui. Just get the Behringer.

Thank you for great content Julian. Very informative and well researched. Helped me to make a decision ;-)

Very usefull Professional Review. Thanks julian!

Spot on. Excellent review. Any chance to run a review of the umc-204hd? Wondering whether its performance would lean towards the 202 or the 404. Thanks!

Good review. I bought this unit and it's been 2 months now and I'm quite satisfice with the performance. There are a couple things I would like to share about this interface, if you connect it to the outlet and USB at the same time when the PC sleeps and wakes up, most of the time in my case, Windows 10 doesn't recognize it so I decided not to use the power supply anymore; this unit has the same issue of the sleep and wake up when it is connected through a passive USB hub not like my old UR12 which had no problem at least in my last two PCs. I use this interface with OBS and ASIO plugin to have access to all inputs and control each independently, that's the beauty for that price ;) Here is my question, which microphone you used to record yourself in this episode? I saw 48V activated and I'm quite sure you are using a shotgun mic, Sennheiser? I was expecting this review for a long time in order to decide if I should buy it or not, but according to the specs and test you made I am quite sure I made a good investment. Keep working Julian Krause, one of the best channels about audio gear in KZread!!! (￣ー￣)ｂ

About to order one..great information..just have to look into controlling effects pedal returns via the inserts and a DAW controlling effects returns Peace from OZ.

Love your reviews man! Hands down the best interface reviews on KZread. Could it be possible to ever see higher-end interfaces such as the Clarett range or the Babyface Pro?

@JulianKrause

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I currently have the Clarett 2Pre on the test bench. I will make a video about it soon 😉

Thanks. This is how reviews should be done. I'v been using this interface for two years now. Yes, it's is good for the money. But as you said, the output is not good enough. A question. Is there any sound quality difference between XLR +4 dBu and RCA -10 dbv. Because, it would be nice to have some more volume.

@JulianKrause

3 жыл бұрын

The monitor setting of +4 dBu or -10 dBV only sets the sensitivity and there is no quality difference. Beacuse the output level of the UMC404HD is so low, I highly suggest to use the -10 dBV setting.