perfect timing for me to stumble across this video today, just got a 182 in the mail :D

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! :)

I keep being amazed how informative PLUS enjoyable your module videos are. The sound samples are great and your video skills are excellent. The start of this video is BOMB! Thanks.

Really useful tutorial on sequencers in general and this one specifically. Great job

I knew all of the information in this but I still kept on watching Very well put together

I love this video. Modular synthesizers have been my main instrument for the last decade or so. I've really gone through many modules/systems/concepts over the years. I have seen many eurorack videos and this one is exceptional! No nonsense, down to earth and explains some very clever sequencing techniques. Thumbs up!

Thanks for posting.A very thoughtful,informative,review of the (Behringer#100)'#182-sequencer'! Really appreciate all that you are doing for the rest of us looking at purchasing these modules.It's really nice to know what they do,function-wise and how they perform!

Just bought some system 100 modules thanks this is very informative.

Many thanks for the over- and review! For me, the real fun begins when combining multiple sequencers, like triggering envelopes from a trigger sequencer, perhaps of the euclidian variety and set pitch, cutoff, resonance and envelope values from a CV sequencer as well as transposing one by the other or have a mix of several CVs to deliver the final CV that sets a value. By having different sequence lengths, play modes and resets there is a lot of variation as well as similarity and a complex pattern is quite often a happy little accident (you read this in Bob Ross voice). To get those results by playing a keyboard would take ages - if possible at all. Sequencing opens so many creative doors, I find it´s a multiplier for your musical output.

@brhodes0

Жыл бұрын

Yep - good fun - there is a little module by tiptop called Miso that lets you do combination of attenuation/scaling/summing of two pairs of cv inputs. Although everyone says Maths is the way to go and I am waiting for mine to turn up. Best regards

Thanks loads.... loved this! It's the only system100 module I don't yet own.... but I will get it soon to complete the set! Thanks for the review!

Thnx for this vid. Lot’s of useful information 🖖🏻

This video was INSANELY useful. Feeding CV out 2 into the CV tempo… what a world of possibilities! I know you said a clock divider is an odd application… in a pinch… if ya need a divider, it beats a sharp stick in the eye. Thank you for unlocking some tricks I may or may not have every discovered! Cheers!

great video!

I really love your demo/review videos. Not only are they informative, but your usage examples are about the most musical and creative I’ve seen/heard on KZread!

It's funny, I used to have a Roland System 100 with the 104 Sequencer, absolutely massive with its own power supply. I thought the Behringer System 100(m) Eurorack sequencer was small, now I find out there is a 2 HP module, amazing!

Very Nice! Subbed

I got 2 of these because of the tempo CV option they have. Makes for some great creative options.

Very good walk-through. I agree this is one of those modules that makes sense only if you're going for the full vintage reproduction experience, which is my case. Otherwise there are plenty of better alternatives. For me no other sequencer beats the Eloquencer.

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Tried the Eloquencer once in the music store but failed due to its complexity. But I guess if you're into it, it's a brilliant tool.

The jam at the end where you played the sequencer using the step button was absolutely incredible. The tuning you had was so good and it all feel together beautifully.

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! But it's more luck than skills, because what you don't see in the videos is hours of unpleasant trash coming out of the rack, with a few lucky bits.

@MrMarcLaflamme

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 Don't spoil the fun! :-D haha. But seriously I think we need more unpleasant trash being shown so we don't think these are magic devices!

@15:21 I guess that by fine tuning the first 5 steps and slowing down the tempo, you can achieve the famous Spiral sequence by Vangelis. Thanx for the videos !

Have you played with teh Behringer 960. I am thinking about putting it , along with a 962 into a homemade shallow case with wooden cheeks. That way I can use it like the dark time to the side of my eurorack, when I want to. The dark time looks similar to the 960. Does the dark time have more functionality than the 960?

@synthesizer83

Жыл бұрын

I tested the 960 once in my local music store. The Darktime seems to have more options regarding the gate outputs (you can select gate on / off per step), while the 960 is more a pure cv sequencer. Also, the Darktime has a few transport options (forward, backward, pendulum), where I'm not sure about the 960. Quantization is also a big thing, the Darktime has a few options here. On the other hand, the 960 has three cv tracks, the Darktime has only two. But very cool idea with the case! I was thinking about such a small, portable case a few times, where I put my most favorite modules in.

Heyyy, You do can change the melody on the fly on keystep by pressing a key when a note to change should occur. Cheers.

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Yep, you're right. I simplified here to not loose track completely. Actually I haven't used the seq mode of the keystep a lot, but the arpeggiator is great!

I don't use many System 100 modules, but I've been looking at the 182 sequencer more as a CV sequencer for adding interest to filters or to slowly alter VCLFO rate or intensity over time (Behringer 130 Dual VCA would be very useful in this sort of patch).

Don't have any modular, but your sequencer type overview was really cool. I've been drooling over the Intellijel Metropolis for ages.. but as I said: I don't have any modular.

Great video! I love step sequencers although I think it should be law that they include a quantiser! 😀 I had an original Roland 100m system. The omission of a range switch on the 182 makes it difficult to tune, I think. You also have my fave step sequencer - the Doepfer Dark Time. I also have the Pittsburgh and Ladik S610 which is interesting. Another one of my faves is the Behringer 960. Alas, a large module but with 3 channels and one-knob-per-function, it's fun and easy to use. It's also very cheap! 😀 but you may also want the 962 (also cheap!) to get the most from it.

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

The 960 is massive. I always wanted a Doepfer 155, this goes into the same direction but has only 16 steps in total. Please, don't make me start a Behringer System 35! I get addicted fast...

@IanWaugh

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 😀 Join our Synthaholics Club - I'm VP 😀 Tim Shoebridge has covered the Behringer system in detail and although it was something to be aspired to in the past, I really wouldn't want one of these now. However, you can use individual modules such as the 960 in any system. I also looked at the 155 but it seemed over-priced and under-powered for what it does. I love the switches and although it has recently come down in price (a bit) you still need an add-on with it (akin to the 962) but the 960 is much better value. But I wouldn't try to build an entire B system around it. I'm not that nostalgic! 🤣

Thanks - i was struggling with how to sync it with another 4-step CV Sequencer and have a clock setting the tempo. With It set to single step and trig in coming from my clock and trig out to reset on the other sequencer, i am at last in sync!

pitching quantizing is a huge + for me. If the sequencer doesn't have it, it'll need to run thru a pitch quantizer afterwards - microtonal sequence patterns rarely work for me.. Even the Oberheim TwoVoice sequencer module had pitch quantizing in 1975. Thanks for the video. I'm shocked how good the System 100 modules sound 24:16 and on.

@synthesizer83

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, quantizing is very handy. In particular when you want to alter your sequence on the fly, you're basically lost without a quantizer. However, the original Roland system had no quantizer, so Behringer copied this issue well...

hi! please keep the subtitles to accurately depicts what you actually say! it's very confusing for non native guys like me！ except that was a very helpful and informative video! thanks!

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Thanks for the walk-through of this limited but still very enjoyable sequencer. Maybe it would be worth to mention that you can easily daisy chain 2 182 units by setting the sequencer to "single" mode and connect the trigger out of the first 182 to the the trigger in of the second 182, and then connect the trigger out of the second 182 to the trigger in of the first 182? But maybe that's obvious (I have not seen anyone demoing that so far)!?

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for mentioning that! That's probably the true reason behind the Trig in and Trig out jacks? I used them a few times to sync it to the SQ1 from Korg, but never tried to chain them (and I think it's impossible with the SQ1).

@dustop3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 I suspect so, daisy-chaining them like this gives you the ability to have a 32 or more step sequencer, I have chained 4 to get 64 steps and it seems to work without problems.

I'm very interested in this being my first sequencer module (I have a few external CV enabled sequencers like MicroFreak) but the lack of reset input has me concerned. How do you sync two of them to start at the same time? Or how do you trigger it to start or stop in general? Is there any way to do it other than the push button? Thanks!

@synthesizer83

10 ай бұрын

You simply can't, you have to manually set it to the desired initial step (with the button) and then, with the first Trig In pulse, it advances with every trigger.

This was great. Thank you. - What's the best way to connect this with my Behringer Neutron, which doesn't have a sequencer? From the CV Out to the OSC In or into a different semi-module of the Neutron?

@synthesizer83

Жыл бұрын

CV out toe OSC 1 or 2 or both seems the most straightforward way. Then gate out to E Gate 1.

thanks for the clear and instructive demonstration. Is there any module that could be used in conjunction with this one to have the possibility of turning steps on or off?

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The short answer is no. But... you could use the second cv row as a gate output and feed it to a VCA or filter. Or you could use the gate delay of the 172 module as a clock divider for the gate output of the sequencer. Only quick ideas, and not really sophisticated. The sequencer just is really basic.

@francescofinizio1408

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 thanks again. Those suggestions alone give me something to work with. I’ve got two of them and while they’re quite basic they do have nice features which compel me to keep them a while longer.

I don't own an B182 modules. But if I were starting over from scratch, I'd build a 182 system first.

Thank you for another wonderful explanation, but i wonder if the tempo cv in can be triggered by an external midi cv clock, i have a beatstep pro with clock out but not working as it should. What do i need in this jungle of midi to cv converters, clocks triggers and gates? Thank you..!!

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You can use the "trig in" input and feed a trigger or gate into it. With the sequencer set to "step" mode, it will then advance one step with each trigger.

@wladimirduijndam186

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 thank you very much, You explain things so good, i am just starting with modular , but you are my go to.....

@dbrugnani5286

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 I'm new to modular, but I was wondering what the simplest MIDI-to-CV convertor would be to just trigger the 182 sequencer from my midi-capable MC-707 groovebox (or other midi device). I don't want to transmit notes, only tempo and start/stop.

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

​@@dbrugnani5286 I would probably go for the Doepfer A-190-8, that seems to be the right thing here.

Thank you again for one more great video! Using the sequencer as morphable oscillator is a great idea. Stating that it does not track 1V/Oct, have you verified that this results from the sequencer? Because that would mean, it looses some triggers. Alternatively, the inaccuracy could result from the - external - trigger: If one triggers the sequencer e.g. by some LFO (whose frequency is controlled by keyboard pitch CV), the inaccuracy could also result from here if the scaling is not exact.

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! I was referring to the tempo cv input here, and that doesn't seem to track 1V/Oct. The external triggering is fine until you reach the maximal speed, where it then just stops to follow.

@marcschlensog9370

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 Got it, thanks for clarification. Then it seems that the (internal) tempo is not exactly proportional to the CV in. I think I also have to test this at my sequencers… 🧐

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcschlensog9370 I guess this sequencer was not supposed to be used in the audio range, that's why it doesn't track 1V/oct properly. But it's always worth a try ;)

Its pssible to sync it with other sequencer, does it Have reset in?

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

You can sync it via the "Trig in" input, which advances one step with each trigger. But it has no dedicated reset input.

Hi, is it possible to create pauses while the sequencer is running? that is, let me explain better: create dull steps without sound.

@synthesizer83

8 ай бұрын

In a simple way: No. In a more complicated way: Yes. You could use the second row of the sequence and feed it's cv into a VCA cv input. Then you feed the gate output through the audio path of this VCA (ac / dc coupling should make no big difference here) before the now altered gate goes into your envelope. Now you can use the cv of the 2nd sequence to disable certain steps by just turning the VCA down.

I'm a complete novice. I own a 960 sequencer and Crave (both from Behringer) and am trying to get them to work together, in order to expand the Crave's possibilities. How do I make it work?

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

I guess the 960 is a pure cv sequencer, so it has no gate output. If you connect one of the A / B /C voltages to the OSC CV of the crave and the Oscillator Output to the ENV GATE of the crave, it should work somehow.

Jealous of that Lifeforms Micro Sequencer! They're hard to find, seen really creative

@synthesizer83

9 ай бұрын

Yes, they seem to be out there in a very limited number. The moment I saw this sequencer (when it was new and in store) I knew I need it.

Cooles Video! Habe den 182 auch und versuche ihn mit dem sq1 zu syncen. Der 182 überspringt manche steps sobald ich Tempo beim sq1 erhöhe. Weist du vlt woran das liegt. Bin leider noch nicht solange in eurorack drin 😅

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Versuch mal die gate polarity des SQ1 auf "positive" umzustellen (steht im manual unter "global settings"). Auch das Timing des sync out Ausgangs kann man verändern, ich hab meins auf "16tel" und "sync x1". Damit geht es relativ zuverlässig. Der SQ1 gibt allerdings auch im gestoppten Zustand sync Signale ab, wodurch es schwer wird, beide Sequencer bei Step 1 beginnen zu lassen. Einfacher geht das, wenn man einen der gate Ausgänge zum syncen opfert.

Great videos! Thank you! I have an issue with my 182 that is impossible to get any answers to on the internet, so I thought I´d try and ask you. Whenever I press stop on the sequencer there is still a droning sound coming through from the oscillator. I am dead shure that I have patched everything correctly (the sound appears even though the vca gain is down to zero) I also tried the 960 sequencer and my Oxi One and with the same patching there is no sound passing thruough when i stop the sequencer. The gate time on the 182 is set to zero. When turning the switch to single mode, no sound passes through though. Ever so grateful for any insight in the matter. Kind regards Otto

@synthesizer83

8 ай бұрын

That sounds really strange, when your VCA is down to zero you shouldn't hear anything, regardless of the sequencer mode. Are you sure you have no ground loop or anything similar, which gives you the drone; does the pitch of the drone change when you tune the VCO?

@OttoMilde

8 ай бұрын

Thank so much for the response. Yes the pitch changes when I turn the pitchnob on the VCO. It is strange!

I can’t get the 182 to respond to TRIG IN. Should it work with a System 100 square LFO signal? Or do I need to draw the trigger from somewhere else? Any idea between what voltage ranges the trigger should toggle?

@synthesizer83

5 ай бұрын

Mine works with the square wave from the Sys 100 LFO (set to 10V). You have to set the 182 to step mode for the trig in to work as intended.

@bastiaanw3519

5 ай бұрын

@@synthesizer83 I tried that, didn’t work. It must be broken.

when i press this special key it plays a little melody

Excellent video and sounds! Is this the only Berhinger sequencer you can step through the sounds (using the red button) on ? Thanks again

@synthesizer83

Жыл бұрын

The 1027 also has this feature, I'm not sure about the Moog style one...

@lordlollops1

Жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 Excellent thank you for the reply and like , cheers

How high into audio rates can the Behringer 182 sequencer go when you use external clocking sources? e.g. a square wave oscillator?

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

I experimented with that at about minute 14:01 in the video. If I remember right it goes up to something around a C2, but no further.

@TheSwircle987

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 oh okay. Do you know of any sequencers which can go far beyond that?

@massimookissed1023

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSwircle987 CMOS 4017 & 4022 ICs, the hearts of "Baby 8" sequencers, can clock up to at least 2½ MHz, which is a _bit_ above audio (!)

@TheSwircle987

2 жыл бұрын

@@massimookissed1023 wow. That's awesome! Are those ICs in any pre-built modules?

@TheSwircle987

2 жыл бұрын

@@massimookissed1023 Oh, wow. That sounds awesome. Would you happen to know if there are any pre-built (non-DIY) Eurorack modules with similar capabilities?

Could I hook this up to my MS20 mini as a sequencer

@synthesizer83

9 ай бұрын

Should work, but get the SQ1 from Korg instead. Fits better to the MS20, is more versatile, has quantization, and so on. The 182 is a module for those who want to complete their System 100, for all others, there are more capable sequencers available.

how you find the Div 6 sequencers worth while getting a kit?.

@synthesizer83

9 ай бұрын

Yes... and no. Depends on what you want. I very much like the "one knob per step" concept, this is certainly not what the Div6 sequencer gives you. On the other hand, it is very good for "programming" sequences step by step due to the keyboard design.

I think the TD-3 also works as a great sequencer

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the built-in sequencer is great (don't have one, but seems to have a fluent workflow). Curious if it outputs cv and gate via midi, so that you can use it to control other gear?

@brokenscart7989

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 it does, yeah

Hello, your series on the different modules of the SYSTEM 100M is interesting, but since I am extremely bad in English, could you put the translation option (in French...😉😂) on your KZread channel? thank you in advance and happy new year👍.

@synthesizer83

Жыл бұрын

I don't really get what the YT algorithm did there, the auto generated subtitles are messed up. I uploaded some text now, the AI is still working on this... Will see what I can do!

@philjass

Жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 😉 👍

schön gemacht, brauch nicht mal die deutsche Übersetzung um dich zu verstehen. Danke für deinen Beitrag. GRüsse

So did I hear you right in saying you can't use an external clock to keep it in time with everything else or am I wrong? Sorry, I'm new to eurorack and have got 5 if the system 100 modules with a few others. Im just at a loss when it comes to syncin it with a clock.

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

Hi! You can use the "trig in" input to synchronize it to a master clock. It stops when the clock gets to fast, but "fast" means audio range. For usual sub-audio clock speeds it works fine.

@ojwatts2647

2 жыл бұрын

@@synthesizer83 oh right, thanks. I'm sure I've tried that but I'll have to give it another go. Could you use an LFO to?

@synthesizer83

2 жыл бұрын

@@ojwatts2647 Depends a bit on the LFO, but it sure works with the System100 ones. Don't forget to put the sequencer into step mode before.

Wie temperaturstabil ist denn der Sequenzer?

@synthesizer83

2 ай бұрын

Gar nicht... bzw. kann auch an den VCOs liegen, aber das Ding detuned nach 10 Minuten schon ordentlich.