Please read the Description for further help and links. :) I would also quickly like to add some extra stuff here too. A Lot of printer problems I have seen, seems to come from people not knowing on how to level their printers and getting the right Z Offset (I was one of those people). This video should hopefully help people visually see what they must do to get a better printing result. As mentioned and as you can see with my channel, I am new to this. I have also had problems like my extruder getting jammed resulting in contacting support. Here are some notes I wish I added in my video, needed a quick correct or explanation: - Don't overly tighten your belts! It will cause wear and tear or worse - snapping!! - When I said Z-Wobble, I actually meant Z-Binding which Geek Detour mentions in his video (linked in description). - I tried to loosen the feet but it was about to fall off. I could work on the other feet by tightening them to match the 1 odd foot, which I will do one day. But for now it is working fine. - Possible reason why my printer went to -1.38. I might've done something to change the printer height when experimenting. I don't recall and I'm pretty sure I didn't do any changes that involved setting the printer at that setting, but that is my best guess lol. I'll try to help find support for you on any issue you might have but I would suggest that you check out those subreddits or discord to see if you can find similar issues, if not don't be scared to ask for help. Also remember the community and support team are there to help and are human. Don't be horrible. Note that if you do need further help, that is on your own risk and testing!! Please like and subscribe

This video alone should be reason enough for god to let you through those pearly gates. I bought this printer 5 months ago, and just gave up on it because the levelling was pissing me off. Thank you very much. also, for the regular neptune 4, heres the screw code : [screws_tilt_adjust] screw1_name: front left screw screw1: 55,10 screw2_name: rear left screw screw2: 55,180 screw3_name: rear right screw screw3: 225,180 screw4_name: front right screw screw4: 225,10 horizontal_move_z: 10 speed: 200 screw_thread: CW-M4 # Use CW for Clockwise and CCW for Counter Clockwise

@CazaCreates

3 ай бұрын

I'm glad my video was able to trouble solve your issue!! Good luck on your 3D projects! :D

I have 2 maxes and both of them had same issue , the y axis rails weren't parallel, they were off by .5 mm from one end to other , this caused my wheels to be tight at front where i was adjusting them and way too tight at back which cause them to wear bad and was making bed wobble.

Great video, subsribed 👍🏽

wow, well done, u put in the time , please keep sharing

@CazaCreates

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I know, I gotta get myself back into making more videos with my printer!

The actual frame being level with the earth or your table doesn't matter too much. You could attach it to a wall and it should still print sideways, although some of the mechanical parts will experience more wear than usual. Good video overall though.

@CazaCreates

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I've seen a video of someone trying different tables after people mentioning on how wobbly his table was, then I think he hung it on a rope or something and still got pretty good results. The purpose of mentioning is to remove any controllable errors. I know it's a minor thing and the odds are very very slim for problems with a crooked printer besides from what you listed, which is why I also showed that I used tissues to lift my printer (It was also very annoying that it shook my desk making a lot of noise and creating a challenge when working or gaming lol). Also thank you :)

When using the feeler gauge, should I stop as soon as the nozzle touches the gauge? Also, when doing calibrate in the tune section the bed mesh looks almost perfect, but after doing the automatic with the handheld the entire bed mesh appears lower except for one side which is way higher. Any tips?

@CazaCreates

Ай бұрын

feeler gauge - I personally do it so once I feel the nozzle a little go down once or twice. This gives me a grippier feel but not too low. If it doesn't work out you can always print a bed test. If you want to really put it to the test there are methods where you can get the printer to do a bed test starting from low and work it's way up. Bed Mesh - I had a weird issue with one of the corners being incorrect. Which is why I start my screw tilt in the middle of my printer. Make sure the bed visual settings is set correct ie Mesh matrix, color scale 0.2 box scale 2.0. It could be flat enough that any slight imperfection is showing red, so check to see how high the highest point is to the lowest point as long as you Variance is within 0.2. Next, just like in my video, try and loosen the 2 screws to see if that changes anything. You could also try to find which part of your bed is the middle ground and use that as your starting point for the Screw_Tilt_adjust. Last method that I can think of without being able to see it, not ideal, but using foil tape to help lift the side that is currently lower. Do keep me updated if this helps. Can always get in touch via Reddit - u/Caza390 sending photos of your bed mesh and I'll see what I can do to help 👍

How about properly turning it off?

@CazaCreates

18 сағат бұрын

@@llNATEDOGGll according to u/EarlyActivive66 “You can turn off the power switch after the printer is cooled down or in the Webinterface fluidd the 3 points top right > hosts > shutdown” I go from the switch but according to some others, the switch method isn’t ideal as it can cause corruption. So I will now try the other way. Apparently there WAS supposed to be an update for a proper shutdown. I can’t confirm this since I haven’t needed to and haven’t yet updated my printer

Thank you for the video. I am getting the !! Move out of range: -5.000 30.000 10.000 [0.000] when I try to use the "screw tilt adjust." How can I fix this issue? Neptune 4 Max

I believe there is stone information wrong in this video. You can adjust the z offset in fluidd, BUT you have to issue a SAVE_CONFIG afterwards. The handheld does it too. I use the paper method for an initial z offset and then start a print of a lage rectangle (at least 100x50mm) with info angle 0°. Use an android app or the handheld to live afjust the z offset while printing that rectangle and stop the print if it looks fine. Save your settings, like described before in the console and you are ready to go. For petg i have to wait at least 45min to get 80°C stable. You can verify that yourself by: 1. Home 2. Set bed and extruder temps (e.g. 80 and 100) 3. Run Scre tilt adjustment 4. Repeat 3 until values are stable over 5-10 min and write down the time till the first stable run.

Hi. How did you work out the Z offset you need please. Enjoyed the video but maybe a bit too advanced for me...

@CazaCreates

5 ай бұрын

I’m not too sure with paper as I couldn’t ever tell, but a good rule of thumb with a feeler gauge is to get as close as possible until you feel some grip. If you notice the printer head move (which I found using a camera helps with that) then you are too low, if you are hardly feeling any resistance, go a little lower. Try printing at this point, if it’s not working out, try printing at a slight bit higher or lower by 0.01. There is probably a way to use Klipper to move the print head up over a certain point when doing a ‘bed level test print’ but I haven’t explored Klipper enough to figure out that trick yet. ^ You could check some of the Reddit pages to see if anyone has a way to do that. Hope this somewhat helps? 😊

I can imagine, why this specific brand and printer are being sold second hand so much, for so little... Yet thank you very very much for this video. That is likely going to help. Top job, thanks!

@CazaCreates

2 ай бұрын

Honestly, I had my first round of issues with this printer and considered getting rid of it, all the negative stuff about it started posting everywhere and it was hard to find useful information. It just takes a while of research and learning the right key words to solve your problems. Which is why I wanted to make this video for those that have similar issues as it feels like there's no beginner friendly starter guides for this. :)

@Incorruptus1

2 ай бұрын

@@CazaCreates Exactly, to me as a consumer, the issues I run in to with this thing, is simply a product coming from a bad business model of a company, with sad service, sad updates, and crappy customer service. I am not even going to resell the thing. It's going in the bin. And I will concentrate on a better product out there. Right after buying a complete new one, after having an old one that was needing firmware eventually, after maybe half a year of use, it broke down. Now with the new one I already noticed and analysed I had to checkup the firmware right after buying the damned thing. So my conclusion. It is complete and utter crap. This company let's it's customers down. Sure it has a nice price, but the crap and issues that one runs into when buying and setting it up, simply crap. Broken bricks right out of the box. This company bases sales on their income model, not on satisfying consumers, even let's them down in to buying new better models. I am done with this brand. And the Chinese crap they put in to it. Thank you for your comment and help. Good luck with your processes and printings. :) Have a great day!

Just got a Neptune 4 last week and this is super helpful! As for the bed mesh and IP address - is this possible without the printer being connected directly to internet?

@andreazanfre

2 ай бұрын

no, with printer offline you can't use klipper, i know that with neptune 4 you can add a usb wifi adapter if you can't connect by cable

@rosshefner5391

2 ай бұрын

You can connect it to your PC/laptop using an ethernet cable

Brilliant video

@CazaCreates

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! :D

How do you turn off the printer? Is the power switch fine to use?

@CazaCreates

2 ай бұрын

I just go to the home screen and switch it off by the power. If you don't go to the home screen it may show an error message before cutting out.

A printer doesn't have to be level to the ground. It has to be level or even distances to itself. I and others have even printed upside down .

Something I learned: if your first purge line is curly or squiggly you wheels are too tight. They need to be just right.

@CazaCreates

4 ай бұрын

That's interesting to know. Thank you !!

what if there's no IP, on the video it seems like u didn't have the IP number either...

@CazaCreates

5 ай бұрын

Hi, I believe all the Neptune 4 printers are Wireless. My printer is the Neptune 4 Plus. I do have an IP, I just blurred it out for personal preference and comfort. If you get any of the Neptune 4 printers, they should be wireless. But there’s also an Ethernet cable which you can hook your printer into. I hope this helps with any confusion :)

@Cofiko55

5 ай бұрын

Ah! Makes sense, and btw, did u blur mine too😂, I have Neptune 4 pro as well, strange I have no IP on mine… Thanks for the video

@CazaCreates

5 ай бұрын

@@Cofiko55 oh… strange?! I just have a Quick Look around, could be a firmware issue. I don’t like the idea of pushing an update or anything but you might have to if you’re missing a function on your printer like that or see if there’s a firmware restart. Do you have a WiFi adapter that attaches to your printer? If you do, try contacting the support about updates or check the Reddit/Discord links in the description to see about it / ask about it. I haven’t done one before since I’ve never dealt with software issues. But I have heard that the printer and handheld are different things to update. So make sure, if you do update, do both!! Good luck!

@Cofiko55

5 ай бұрын

@@CazaCreates sigh, yeah that's what I thought, is there more simple way that what elegoo official site offers? thank u

@CazaCreates

5 ай бұрын

@@Cofiko55 See what would happen if you plug your printer in by the Ethernet port, then check "About Machine" to locate the IP. If it still isn't shown, I really haven't got a clue - at which case I am really sorry and you'll have to deal with the support side. Maybe try their discord which is in the description. If you are still struggling, email the support team - also linked in the description. I wish you luck! Again sorry for not being able to assist you, I couldn't find anything that holds a similar issue :/

Gordon Ramsey is cooking on an, Elegoo.? Burned the toast...Tut, Tut.

Dont use isopropyl on a pei sheet. You can look this up its not good for pei and corrodes it

@CazaCreates

2 ай бұрын

Not from what I have seen/heard of so far. The closes thing I have seen about "corrosion" is using it to smooth off the prints itself. Would be quite odd for something that is highly used for cleaning, especially with metal to corrode a metal sheet. Out of anything it might effect the colour of the PEI sheet.

Beginner's guide for neptune 4 series: Don` buy this piece of crap.

@CazaCreates

4 ай бұрын

I think it depends on stuff. Cheaper printers = more work before getting good results. I mean there’s plenty of faults that could’ve been avoidable.. and I mean many! But if it does the job for some and a cheap price then it’s not too bad. But if you’re expecting something out the box that works well I have heard Prusa printers are good!

@kenyajobs1069

4 ай бұрын

@@CazaCreates the main problem is that elegoo made their neptune 4 series firmware like a house of cards. It has a very old klipper version and once you update it or fluid -- it starts falling aparts. Tons of bugs where inconsistent z-offset is the main one. You need to flash the printer (and MCU too, after soldering a couple of things at motherboard) with the custom firmware to make it worrk as it should. As a third or more printer -- it can be interesting in some ways... But as a first printer it's literally a headache. Ask me how I know.

@kenyajobs1069

4 ай бұрын

@@CazaCreates oh and talking about a cheap printers. ender 3 v3 se is a way cheaper and it does it's job a way better than a neptune 4 series printers. Or u can pay a bit more and get a KE version. u need to root it though, but there's tons of manuals about that. Nothin' too complacated imo.

@kenyajobs1069

2 ай бұрын

UPD: After a six months of troubleshooting I've defeated that thing already. And what I want to say about it... All the neptune 4 series (except of n4pro!) can become a good printer after changing to OpenNept4ne custom firmware (motherboard soldering is no needed no more). And swapping to custom part cooling fun duct is preferable too.

@Incorruptus1

2 ай бұрын

The load on second hand printers of this brand and type is serious. Which is an indicator of how fast people want to switch after buying it. Also an indicator that guarantees on the damn thing are even worse. And the amount of maintenance it needs, before you get a result, the amount of material included to test it and keeping to test it. Than the updating of the z calibration and it even being off... All indicators that it is simply a bad product. I tested two of this same brand now. And will get rid of it, even if it has to go down the balcony.