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0:00-1:12 - intro + specs
1:13-3:53 - gaming
3:54-5:36 - power
5:37-6:32 - ray-tracing
6:33-8:22 - streaming
8:23-9:18 - production
9:19-10:00 - thermals
10:01-10:42 - closing thoughts
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  • @Hotcoffeeenema77
    @Hotcoffeeenema779 ай бұрын

    For anyone curious about the power draw, at idle my 7900 XTX is down to 9w - 15w at desktop. They've fixed the power draw in a recent driver update. I've heard many other people say that their multi monitor/multiple refresh rate monitors are also much lower than when it launched.

  • @mehdialburkat5401

    @mehdialburkat5401

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks man

  • @righteousone8454

    @righteousone8454

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for update 😊 Is that reference or what type of card?

  • @Hotcoffeeenema77

    @Hotcoffeeenema77

    9 ай бұрын

    @@righteousone8454 XFX Merc

  • @Fifty05

    @Fifty05

    9 ай бұрын

    is there anything else that has changed, or is this video still acurate? i wanna build a new pc for high refresh rate 1440p gaming and some light work, but not sure if i wanna spend 2,000 + new monitors right now

  • @diogovieira3362

    @diogovieira3362

    8 ай бұрын

    good to know, been looking at going all in with a new build

  • @eragon190
    @eragon190 Жыл бұрын

    I LOVE the price per frame breakdown with the percent graphs. This is such an effective way to compare the cards, and I hope that this will show up in future videos!

  • @PaulSebastianM

    @PaulSebastianM

    Жыл бұрын

    It's been the hallmark of HardwareUnboxed channel, this.

  • @chrisnemat

    @chrisnemat

    Жыл бұрын

    New here?

  • @michaelzomsuv3631

    @michaelzomsuv3631

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it's the only thing that really matters in the end. I don't care if the card is fast, I want to know how much I get for my money.

  • @nossy232323

    @nossy232323

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelzomsuv3631 Not really. It's even more important to see if the fps are consistent.

  • @ZackSNetwork

    @ZackSNetwork

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelzomsuv3631 Price to performance does not matter in the high end. It’s literally about which is the fastest best product.

  • @pbjames
    @pbjames Жыл бұрын

    That's a slick looking reference card

  • @ahsokaincognito

    @ahsokaincognito

    Жыл бұрын

    Especially next to the rtx fe designs

  • @prithvib8662

    @prithvib8662

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao wait till the 3rd party manufacturers get their hands on it and release the ugliest cooler designs known to mankind

  • @GetShrektMrKrabs

    @GetShrektMrKrabs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@prithvib8662 alot are but there are some nice ones. The XFX ones don't look half bad

  • @andrewatsv2718

    @andrewatsv2718

    Жыл бұрын

    The ASRock one looks pretty cool

  • @ThisIsntTwitter

    @ThisIsntTwitter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@prithvib8662 pretty much all except Asus

  • @MurphyKitchell
    @MurphyKitchell Жыл бұрын

    The LTT review said the AMD cards have significant differences in power draw based on the monitor they're attached to. That's a pretty obscure thing to test (and it's on AMD to fix it), but it's worth noting that the power draw picture may be better or worse than is represented here.

  • @dhkatz_

    @dhkatz_

    Жыл бұрын

    @Chett_Manly 103W multimonitor idle? Wtf

  • @saidalcapone3964

    @saidalcapone3964

    Жыл бұрын

    @Chett_Manly definitely driver bug

  • @BarisYener

    @BarisYener

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saidalcapone3964 No it's not driver bug. They gave an answer to PC Games Hardware (german) that this is by design. Some people say it's because of the new chiplet design, to be stable this card needs higher memory clocks which results in more power consumption. So if you run 1080p with this card, you're good to go. For high resolution displays or multi monitor u better pick something else.

  • @JoelHernandez-tz3vk

    @JoelHernandez-tz3vk

    Жыл бұрын

    It seems that the monitor it plugs into may just cause memory to spike to the highest nominal clock for no apparent reason. I know because I dropped 30W power usage by adjusting the monitor refresh rate and idle clock dropped from 1750 to 400mHz.

  • @syncmonism

    @syncmonism

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JoelHernandez-tz3vk :O

  • @ameybhoir4289
    @ameybhoir42892 ай бұрын

    i can buy two 7900xtx for less than price of 4090

  • @xXChEwXx1

    @xXChEwXx1

    17 күн бұрын

    That’s why I bought my TaiChi Rx7900XTX and I loved it

  • @buff9267

    @buff9267

    17 күн бұрын

    no

  • @ameybhoir4289

    @ameybhoir4289

    16 күн бұрын

    @@buff9267 womp womp

  • @Codyslx

    @Codyslx

    15 күн бұрын

    4090 is the most powerful gpu out rn, so...

  • @ameybhoir4289

    @ameybhoir4289

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Codyslx ya so charge people any amount for it.

  • @Sbiridiu
    @Sbiridiu10 ай бұрын

    Just a quick unsolicited real price chart, 8 months later, here in Italy: 7900 XTXs are about 1200/1400€, 4080s are being selled for 1600/1800€ and 4090s are ranging from 2100 to 2500€. Insanity never left since late 2020.

  • @IbrndUSA

    @IbrndUSA

    Ай бұрын

    4090 is 1700 now

  • @ionion348

    @ionion348

    5 күн бұрын

    @@IbrndUSA he said the prices in Italy not the USA, since I am also from Europe the prices he said are true

  • @PowGetRekt
    @PowGetRekt Жыл бұрын

    We already knew it wasn't gunna compete with the 4090. We also knew it would lose when it came to productivity and ray tracing. Even after all that it's actually surprising how good amd did. 4k is competitive and 1080p and 1440p performance is crazy. Good fight for the real ones.

  • @iloveorganicchem6921

    @iloveorganicchem6921

    Жыл бұрын

    This looks like copium but yeah its actually pretty good

  • @cmja09

    @cmja09

    Жыл бұрын

    ahh yes productivity and ray tracing, both measurements that I can live my whole life without. however, it's not all AMD fanboying just yet. They have to fix those power draw numbers

  • @theben4steelers

    @theben4steelers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iloveorganicchem6921 definitely pure copium

  • @mag3slay4

    @mag3slay4

    Жыл бұрын

    "We already knew" *Shows fake charts comparing 7900XTX being 95% of 4090 performance based on AMD's numbers*

  • @LtdJorge

    @LtdJorge

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mag3slay4what? Go watch the presentation again.

  • @MoChuang343
    @MoChuang343 Жыл бұрын

    This is super encouraging for the 7600 and 7700 cards. RT I imagine is less important for us mid range buyers and the later release dates will hopefully come with improved drivers especially for idle power and improved AV1 support in OBS and hopefully soon for Twitch and YT.

  • @FIVESTRZ

    @FIVESTRZ

    Жыл бұрын

    True, $530 3090 performance I’m thinking right

  • @luxemier

    @luxemier

    Жыл бұрын

    I see youre an amd shill praising them whenever they fart. Nvidia is just beteer this year stol coping lil bro

  • @GewelReal

    @GewelReal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FIVESTRZ 400$ and at 150W

  • @adamek9750

    @adamek9750

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GewelReal very optimistic

  • @GewelReal

    @GewelReal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@adamek9750 gotta start somewhere

  • @TotoWolffTablebreaker
    @TotoWolffTablebreaker Жыл бұрын

    Out of all the tech youtubers, I always pick your videos first. Thanks for everything you do.

  • @salsa83

    @salsa83

    Жыл бұрын

    Really? He’s one of the most mid tech channels.

  • @TotoWolffTablebreaker

    @TotoWolffTablebreaker

    Жыл бұрын

    @@salsa83 Why did you feel obligated to tell me this? That is your opinion in the end. Regardless of the truthfulness of that claim, I enjoy his videos anyway.

  • @handsomesquidward151

    @handsomesquidward151

    Жыл бұрын

    @@salsa83 Name your top tech channels

  • @salsa83

    @salsa83

    Жыл бұрын

    @@handsomesquidward151 Gamers Nexus, Hardware unboxed, LTT.

  • @GlacikingTheIceColdKing

    @GlacikingTheIceColdKing

    Жыл бұрын

    @@salsa83 he actually plays games, most techtubers don't.

  • @egalanos
    @egalanos Жыл бұрын

    I reckon enabling SAM/PCIe rebar for both is better given XMP is being enabled which is already not out of the box defaults.

  • @eigentensor

    @eigentensor

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I find the disabling of SAM/rebar truly puzzling from an otherwise tech savvy guy

  • @Brudda_Bear

    @Brudda_Bear

    Жыл бұрын

    yea

  • @samgoff5289

    @samgoff5289

    Жыл бұрын

    I prefer to see what the card can do...not how many outliers rebar can create in the benchmarks

  • @Jason_EU

    @Jason_EU

    Жыл бұрын

    SAM or Resizable BAR should be activated on every GPU/CPU combo nowadays...

  • @timlolxP

    @timlolxP

    Жыл бұрын

    @@samgoff5289 You can activate them on both AMD and Nvidia, so its fair in the end. 99% of System where these cards go into support this feature and should enable it.

  • @lukebrandenboy
    @lukebrandenboy Жыл бұрын

    Awesome visuals and testing as always. You’ve easily become one of the best sources for fast appealing information when it comes to PCs

  • @Radek__
    @Radek__ Жыл бұрын

    9:50 thank you so much for that real-test noise. ❤ I was looking for it in everywhere.

  • @lorsch.
    @lorsch. Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for testing video encoding, haven't seen this anywhere else!

  • @VasiliyGolt
    @VasiliyGolt Жыл бұрын

    Most thorough and informative but also neat and laconic review. You are awesome, man! Keep it up!

  • @MrAustin575
    @MrAustin575 Жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal content, I love the way you do the side by side comparisons. Enjoy your success 🎉

  • @adpt_music
    @adpt_music Жыл бұрын

    very compelling. great review. hopefully AMD can fix that idle power consumption soon. I'd love to see what this can do undervolted / power limited as well.

  • @deviouslaw

    @deviouslaw

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't know if it'll ever be fully on par with monolithic designs, Ryzen still has somewhat higher idle consumption all the way to 5000 series due to chiplet design & IO die, haven't seen the number for 7000 series.

  • @JoeWayne84

    @JoeWayne84

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deviouslaw yes the infinity fabric becomes unstable at lower power. This has been the problem all along and if it was fixable they would of never allowed this to be released with idle power at 100 watts??? It’s insane basically makes these cards worthless. I think now looking back at the Radeon presentation video for the 7900 Lisa’s face did look like someone just ran over her dog… She did not look super happy are enthusiastic… and the fact they spent more time taking about the display port instead of the performance… yeah AMD fucked up big time.

  • @funtourhawk

    @funtourhawk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JoeWayne84 and people were complaining about the 4090s power consumption when actually the 40 series is insanely power efficient

  • @rawdez_

    @rawdez_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@funtourhawk the main problem is its 2-3x overpriced, not power usage.

  • @triv4555

    @triv4555

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JoeWayne84 let's hope those drivers come in to save the day in time

  • @atrium12
    @atrium12 Жыл бұрын

    Very compelling card. Personally not looking to upgrade my 3080 at the moment. I’d rather upgrade my monitor and cpu first.

  • @col.hanslanda2013

    @col.hanslanda2013

    Жыл бұрын

    very smart.

  • @Proaz15

    @Proaz15

    Жыл бұрын

    Cpu bottleneck will be even more this generation.

  • @jemrylie

    @jemrylie

    Жыл бұрын

    I just wished 3080 would get DLSS3+FG or I guess FSR3+FG is fine too.

  • @maverichz

    @maverichz

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, if you already own 3080, better upgrading monitor first. I just bought LG OLED C2 42" and the visual upgrade vs my old 32" VA monitor is huge.

  • @EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV.

    @EdwardWongHauPepeluTivruskyIV.

    Жыл бұрын

    Snart

  • @mox05
    @mox05 Жыл бұрын

    good video and covering some points that other reviews didnt do. Such as the streaming part at 6:33 Thanks

  • @myfpv6813
    @myfpv6813 Жыл бұрын

    Good review with power consumption topic too :) looking forward if they can fix it on idle/low loads. If yes then I’ll jump :)

  • @Deznere
    @Deznere Жыл бұрын

    H.264 has definitely improved compared to the previous, maybe tickering with settings and better software optimization like. Nvidia just received will assist in that. There's some hope with OBS 29, as it's expected to support AV1 fully and the new encoders from Nvidia, Intel and AMD. once it's out of beta. AMD can also optimize its encoding stacks with drivers as well.

  • @AKing4B33r
    @AKing4B33r Жыл бұрын

    My first GPU review from you. EXCELLENT work. Graphs made sense, good pacing through the video, and no obvious signs of bias. 10/10!

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    Жыл бұрын

    No bias except for turning of rebar

  • @AKing4B33r

    @AKing4B33r

    Жыл бұрын

    @@riba2233 Uh what?

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AKing4B33r what what? He turned of rebar/sam even though there is absolutely no need and amd gpus benefits from it

  • @f0lzen
    @f0lzen Жыл бұрын

    your review is one of the best because you are showing the exact same cutscenes rendered with different gpus ty so much for this video

  • @erenixereinx5409
    @erenixereinx5409 Жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for the video on the undervolting of the rx 7900. I think this generation will be very interesting on this subject

  • @lkke7604
    @lkke7604 Жыл бұрын

    looking at it historically, the amd gpus have always improved drastically with time, due to multiple great software updates. Even if that might not be the case this time (since they said they kinda redid their entire driver thingy), they will definetly fix the weird happenings between different dirextX versions, high power draw on idle and in some situations and hopefully general driver customization options. i am confident that this is the best card for anyone not absolutely needing Raytracing, and it should only get better in the future, since the XTX comes with 8GB more VRAM aswell, so i really hope for some longevity on that part. Overall great review, really like the way you developed your channel and how you grew with the videos. Cheers!

  • @FaptnUndrpants
    @FaptnUndrpants Жыл бұрын

    AMD's streaming performance with AV1 looks like its got some kind of sharpening effect compared to Nvidias. Its pretty noticeable around UI elements and areas of high contrast.

  • @telekarma
    @telekarma Жыл бұрын

    Holy moly what is that power draw at idle?! Thanks for testing this!

  • @adamaidermoi
    @adamaidermoi Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see ACC is used in the benchmark!

  • @BinggomanLive
    @BinggomanLive Жыл бұрын

    Ali, please test the temps in various ITX cases. We want to know if we want the reference model is the go-to model for specific cases.

  • @hundvd_7
    @hundvd_75 ай бұрын

    1:52 Bro, those frame time graphs are crazy, I can't believe you're ignoring them That's like a difference of going from 60 to 100 in terms of game feel

  • @theholybluelama6428

    @theholybluelama6428

    3 ай бұрын

    this is the reason why i'm considering a 7900xtx, i'm having issues with micros stutters on my 4070ti, seems to be an nvidia driver issue with display stream compresion.

  • @FC-wz3sf
    @FC-wz3sf Жыл бұрын

    Optimum Tech, given the bigger power draw, can you recommend this card in place of the RTX 4080 from your recent "ITX Perfection - Tiniest 4080 PC" video? Or perhaps, suggest some changes in parts to accommodate 7900 XTX into the T1 case?

  • @packgoat4580
    @packgoat4580 Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU FOR ADDING POWER CONSUMPTION GRAPH COMPARED TO COMPETITION

  • @ojassarup258
    @ojassarup258 Жыл бұрын

    Hope you're going to look at the thermals and noise in mini ITX cases too!

  • @mayssm
    @mayssm Жыл бұрын

    It's even more attractive, today. 7900 xtx is coming down to the $900-$1000 range, while prices on the Nvidia cards have barely budged.

  • @ahoymateeez
    @ahoymateeez Жыл бұрын

    I like this review, short yet complete (rt perf, raster perf, power, rendering, streaming). All you need to know.

  • @BigPaPaRu
    @BigPaPaRu Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to get my hands on the XTX. My Fury is starting to show its age and I sold my Vega when the prices on GPU's went sky high.

  • @magnomliman8114

    @magnomliman8114

    Жыл бұрын

    rip power bill.

  • @johnconnor2402
    @johnconnor2402 Жыл бұрын

    Bought an RX 6600 XT for $250 on Black Friday. I'm more than happy with the performance and it competes well with the 3060. Can't wait to see what the RX 7600 XT is like

  • @TheRealDanimal
    @TheRealDanimal Жыл бұрын

    Top notch quality review yet again my man 💯

  • @cesaru3619
    @cesaru36195 ай бұрын

    Optimum is the most unbiased reviewer i know, and trust me 90% of reviewers are biased and paid to lie, I salute you man.

  • @unclejam1
    @unclejam1 Жыл бұрын

    I love to see you to do more review like this. This is clean, fast paced, informative and right on the point.

  • @aolvs1950
    @aolvs1950 Жыл бұрын

    Goodness. although AMDs flagship still loses from Nvidias flagship, just showing how far they have come. I hope they still keep the pricing when they are finally on par or beating the competition.

  • @projekt84

    @projekt84

    Жыл бұрын

    How does it lose tho

  • @TheVideomaster138

    @TheVideomaster138

    Жыл бұрын

    @@projekt84 hes talking about the nvidia flagship, which for now is the 4090. The 7900 XTX definitely loses against it.

  • @col.hanslanda2013

    @col.hanslanda2013

    Жыл бұрын

    @@projekt84 Loses to 4090 and loses to 4080. You get that 200$ in power savings eventually. Longer you go you save more money. During all these years you will enjoy your RAY TRACING and better reliable driver releases. Oh my god AMD got their ass whooped.

  • @tuuguu_fx2

    @tuuguu_fx2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@col.hanslanda2013 Amd drivers are literally better than Nvidia ones right now. Its not 2019. Plus the 6900xt gained 10-15% performance in driver updates and there's no reason to believe 7900xtx won't.

  • @crashniels

    @crashniels

    Жыл бұрын

    @@col.hanslanda2013 assuming you use RTX. Also driver stability is debatable. I had as many crashes on AMD as with Nvidia. Also for developers who need to use Linux AMD is preferred (Nvidia works but has quirks)

  • @tehpanda64
    @tehpanda64 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for being the only person who actually did encoding on the 7900xtx in their review today

  • @YuProducciones
    @YuProducciones Жыл бұрын

    bro the rollercoaster on this one, the start was amazing!- but still, nice videocard

  • @boban9120
    @boban9120 Жыл бұрын

    shout out to you mate for including ACC in your tests cheers

  • @chrisofnyc3936
    @chrisofnyc3936 Жыл бұрын

    I went and bought the Arc a770! I’m happy so far. As long as Intel continues to support the GPU with updates etc, my experience with it will just get better.

  • @michaelan9688

    @michaelan9688

    Жыл бұрын

    Arc GPUs make zero sense other than for enthusiasts who like beta testing new hardware. But I respect your donation to Intel, hopefully they have competitive GPUs in the future

  • @lelouchabrilvelda1794

    @lelouchabrilvelda1794

    Жыл бұрын

    @noodleswarriorintraining What over price? RX 6000 series is fckinf great in price to performance and better power efficient than INTEL GPU with more FPS.

  • @chrisofnyc3936

    @chrisofnyc3936

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelan9688 thanks man. I bought something that makes no sense. side note though, I also own Intel stock, but I’m sure you’ll find that to not make sense either. 😂

  • @jerrystevenson9507

    @jerrystevenson9507

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrisofnyc3936 Intel GPU LOL

  • @soulshinobi
    @soulshinobi Жыл бұрын

    Don't really understand why resizable BAR was disabled, seems to be pretty standard to have that on now as all modern motherboards support it.

  • @tanphan1848

    @tanphan1848

    Жыл бұрын

    The hardware supports it, but the games might not. Resizable bar can degrade fps for some games, while increases in others. Its not consistent.

  • @joshholmes1372

    @joshholmes1372

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tanphan1848 Can you explain how it would degrade fps.

  • @untrainedprofessionals2374
    @untrainedprofessionals2374 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for including Assetto Corsa Competizione in the testing. Much appreciated.

  • @ethangaines2658
    @ethangaines2658 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like the reason the AMD cards aren't as power efficient is because of its mix of 5nm and 6nm chip usage. Physics determines power efficiency there, but I am excited to see how AMD and game developers tune their software to optimize these cards.

  • @raven4k998

    @raven4k998

    Жыл бұрын

    meh it does not matter performance per dollar matters more then power efficiency with gpu's

  • @iikatinggangsengii2471

    @iikatinggangsengii2471

    10 ай бұрын

    well nvidia clearly ahead, but 6nm 5000 series ryzens are very efficient so no prob, on power area

  • @iikatinggangsengii2471

    @iikatinggangsengii2471

    10 ай бұрын

    actually theyre 7nm

  • @typingcat
    @typingcat Жыл бұрын

    On the contrary, to me, the Blender results seems promising. If 7090 HIP is as fast as 3080 OptiX, when OptiX-equivalent for AMD comes with Blender 3.5, it will beat 3080.

  • @riazulrahil
    @riazulrahil Жыл бұрын

    9:03 it won't be for much long though. Blender is adding support for HIP-RT in the next version. Finally an Optix competitor. It would be nice to show how 7900 XTX is performing against CUDA.

  • @blank141

    @blank141

    Жыл бұрын

    HIP-RT probably will come on Blender 3.5

  • @TzeroTzero

    @TzeroTzero

    Жыл бұрын

    @@blank141, it is

  • @conchobar
    @conchobar Жыл бұрын

    Excellent perspective and incredibly concise video. BRAVO!!

  • @ProjectPhysX
    @ProjectPhysX Жыл бұрын

    100W at idle is absolutely awful. In Europe where energy prices surge, that's a no-go.

  • @HookerHeels

    @HookerHeels

    Жыл бұрын

    Easy fix for it. Its the refresh rate. I have two, 32" 1440p 165hz monitors. On idle my 7900xtx was pulling 100w. I changed my refresh to 100hz, my card pulls 30w. Its because it forces the vram to be at full clockspeed instead of an idle speed. 165hz, vram is 2500, at 100hz, vram caps around 40. Its a weird quirk, and hopefully is fixed on a driver level soon, but for now, its a pretty easy fix. Then I just turn my gaming screen back to 165 for gaming and all is well. This is an easy fix to implement, and I'm sure it'll be out on the next drive update.

  • @HCGonzalezJr87
    @HCGonzalezJr87 Жыл бұрын

    Those frame times though, looks like less spikes on RDNA3.

  • @tr10151
    @tr10151 Жыл бұрын

    Flawless out of box review. ITX guy myself would like to encourage you to run undervolting findings! Keep the awesome work.

  • @DeepfriedBeans4492

    @DeepfriedBeans4492

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, amd has been very good with low power draw efficiency with their processors lately so I’m willing to bet the 7900xtx also follows that trend

  • @stevieflyineasy
    @stevieflyineasy Жыл бұрын

    wasnt expecting the power draw there ...

  • @dawienel1142
    @dawienel1142 Жыл бұрын

    SAM/Rebar testing would be preferred since both support this by now and these days one should not be playing without it.

  • @ryanreviews8566
    @ryanreviews8566 Жыл бұрын

    I hope we get follow up videos with sam & OC enabled with both ddr4 and ddr5, especially for comp games where 1% fps matters. anyways, well done as always OT! definitely the best at making clean, honest & consistent reviews 💯

  • @bradhaines3142

    @bradhaines3142

    Жыл бұрын

    1% fps DONT matter in games, being good matters more than anything else. if you suck at 1000fps, you still suck, if youre great and only have 10fps, you'll still spank the guy that sucks at 1000fps

  • @BlacKEditionMvM

    @BlacKEditionMvM

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bradhaines3142 What are you talking about ? lol

  • @f0x106

    @f0x106

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bradhaines3142 10 fps really? no way man. very irrelevant talk

  • @willmael7914
    @willmael79149 ай бұрын

    IMO even with the bigger power draw, the 7900 XTX is still the clear better alternative for gaming over the 4080 (unless you care about RT). Looks like the power draw issue is fixed now + you can just undervolt. Even if the price was equal, I'd still lean towards the 7900 XTX, cuz NVIDIA skimping on VRAM for a 1440p - 4k card is kinda omegalul

  • @kaputnik_dk
    @kaputnik_dk Жыл бұрын

    Thank you soo much for showing idle power consumption! Mainly bad idle performance, but also bad VR performance made me ditch my rx 5700xt for an rtx 3070 in 2020.

  • @SigrunGiesen-ok1qx
    @SigrunGiesen-ok1qx Жыл бұрын

    Great review, very informative! 😊👍 Appreciate the detailed analysis.

  • @thomaszhu2277
    @thomaszhu2277 Жыл бұрын

    Man, Im excited for these new cards but more excited for price dumps on Radeon 6000 cards 😁

  • @batnion4266
    @batnion4266 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty surprised. Usually AMD is the one with more efficient cards but now similar performance but higher power usage

  • @patuel1

    @patuel1

    Жыл бұрын

    The process Nvidia uses is superior, it’s TSMC’s 5nm vs 4nm.

  • @LtdJorge

    @LtdJorge

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@patuel1it's not because of that. It's a bug that AMD is already looking at. 100w at idle doesn't have anything to do with process node, it's too much.

  • @JPCs559
    @JPCs559 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for showing me this vid I was thinking about buying one due to the average being slightly different and the price but the power consumption is just insane.

  • @1SOSORBIDE
    @1SOSORBIDE Жыл бұрын

    BEAST CHANNEL! you really care the power consumption while idle and 1440p, but other channels were talking something useless.. i never dissapointed since the time i subscribed opt tech

  • @Accuaro
    @Accuaro5 ай бұрын

    1:51 are we just not going to mention how much smoother the frame times are on AMD? or nah?

  • @ricks_toys
    @ricks_toys Жыл бұрын

    Glad I got the 4090 last week

  • @brianwilson7497
    @brianwilson7497 Жыл бұрын

    good video, one piece of feedback - switching which side of the screen the AMD v Nvidia card metrics were displayed on frequently was frustrating

  • @mick7727
    @mick7727 Жыл бұрын

    The prices are so good, the scalpers are right on these cards. Aussie prices between Red and Green team are insanely different.

  • @WhiteoutTech
    @WhiteoutTech Жыл бұрын

    by far the best tech youtuber

  • @shakedzadok9727
    @shakedzadok9727 Жыл бұрын

    Team green is way ahead of competition, world always brace underdogs . I don't think anyone thinking spend 1000+$ on performance device will calculate $ to prame rate ratio.

  • @deviouslaw
    @deviouslaw Жыл бұрын

    If I had either of these cards I'd enable resizable BAR-Would prefer the comparison with it on for both.

  • @Triro
    @Triro7 ай бұрын

    Idk why every tester just doesn't enable SAM. As its a legit free performance, for enabling a setting in bios. its like enabling XMP, mostly everyone does it. Though I will say, even with free performance being left off the table for AMD. Their card still did really well. I can't wait to use my 7800XT, just by seeing the 7900XTX.

  • @my_name_les
    @my_name_les Жыл бұрын

    7900 XTX and RTX 4080 is pretty much the same performance in rasterization. Would you pay $200 more for better power efficiency, DLSS 2/3, and for better ray tracing performance? What if NVIDIA drop the MSRP for $100 less for the 4080. Which one is gonna be the better deal?

  • @joemarais7683

    @joemarais7683

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I was really excited about the 7900xtx, but with even good partner 4080 models costing $1250 now and entry level partner 7900xtx models are looking to cost $1100, they both look like awful buys. This gpu would have been an easy buy at $ 700 but AMD once again deciding to slide just under Nvidia’s pricing is going to ruin them.

  • @anuzahyder7185

    @anuzahyder7185

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_Clivey did they? Thats disastrous for amd

  • @rustler08

    @rustler08

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_Clivey Unless the 4080 is $999 and magically gets 10% more performance, it doesn't have better $ per FPS

  • @huttonberries768

    @huttonberries768

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Wobbothe3rd it doesn't

  • @huttonberries768

    @huttonberries768

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_Clivey false information

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith46526 ай бұрын

    It's December 2023, and now you can buy two 7900XTX cards for the price of one 4090.

  • @GoofieNewfie
    @GoofieNewfie Жыл бұрын

    what is up with the power at idle? How bad was coil whine? did the fans ever stop just idling at desktop?

  • @Jthe5th
    @Jthe5th Жыл бұрын

    Awesome review, did you look for coil noise?

  • @ArnoldSmithFergusson
    @ArnoldSmithFergusson Жыл бұрын

    The power usage are INSANE! Thanks for letting us know. I hope more youtuber are inspired by thorough test like you.

  • @Falcon5ive
    @Falcon5ive Жыл бұрын

    AMD cards age very well, launch benchmak numbers will only improve as AMD optimises these games further.

  • @Souma_Ditya
    @Souma_Ditya10 ай бұрын

    0:33 Minor correction: it's Gddr 6x for 4080 &90 not 6

  • @Lewdacris916
    @Lewdacris91611 ай бұрын

    I decided to buy the RX 7900 XTX when i saw a review that it gets better FPS on Call of Duty than the 4090, apparently the COD engine favors the Radeon cards over Nvidia on 2K resolution (1440P). COD is one of my main games that i play so that was a selling point for me, very happy with my purchase since my rig is running the AMD 5800x CPU. Ran the benchmark and im getting 28 more FPS on average over the RTX 3060 ti that i was using.

  • @martim_trindade

    @martim_trindade

    10 ай бұрын

    your performance would increase with an am5 cpu.

  • @Lewdacris916

    @Lewdacris916

    10 ай бұрын

    @martim_trindade yeah I know, my current motherboard is AM4 so I'd have to upgrade MB, CPU and RAM

  • @weyo14
    @weyo14 Жыл бұрын

    Amd is the more power hungry card. With buggy drives truly Radeon is back

  • @KeeseToast
    @KeeseToast Жыл бұрын

    Was pretty surprised to see the XTX pulling more power than the 4080. That brings up the question why the hell the 4080 cooler designs are so huge. I hope we get some more reasonably sized 4080s in the future

  • @innocentiuslacrim2290

    @innocentiuslacrim2290

    Жыл бұрын

    4080s use the same coolers as the 4090s for some reason. Should be pretty silent at least 😁

  • @Klont123

    @Klont123

    Жыл бұрын

    I read this is because nvidia gave out wrong specifications, and corrected it way too late.

  • @ZackSNetwork

    @ZackSNetwork

    Жыл бұрын

    Both the 4090 and 4080 coolers are over engineered as hell. They never needed to be anywhere near as big as they were. Those coolers on them were made to cool 600+ watt GPU’s. The 4080 is currently the most efficient GPU on the market. The 4090 can run at 350watts and get %95 of its performance.

  • @jebes909090

    @jebes909090

    10 ай бұрын

    It seems that nvidia gave the impression to its subsidiaries that the 4000 series cards would run super hot so they made ginormous heat sinks. Turns out they tend to run cooler and use less power so the heat sinks are way over kill. But thats also a good thing....except for the rog strix 4090 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 that thing is enormous. Its 16 inches long😅😅😅😅😅

  • @MV-ri7zu

    @MV-ri7zu

    9 ай бұрын

    Imagine complaining about getting a gpu with actually decent cooling for once

  • @GeoRover
    @GeoRover6 ай бұрын

    Just a suggestion for future videos, when doing side by side comparisons like this, please keep the card placements in the same place rather than flipping their positions on the screen. It becomes little jarring following which card is which. Great comparison though. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to share this info.

  • @tobytoxd
    @tobytoxd10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this great comparison!

  • @jerrywatson1958
    @jerrywatson1958 Жыл бұрын

    I think it's early driver teething issues. They all use US as their beta testers. By the end of 2nd qtr. next year I am sure it will perform better. I can see why the delay in releasing the card. I guess AMD will be hiring even more driver developers to catch up with Nvidia. Hardware wise they are close the just need drivers to exploit the hardware better under windows. I wonder what the Linux performance is like? Well we will know soon LevelOne techs will go thru all of it.

  • @zergtoss1

    @zergtoss1

    Жыл бұрын

    Why as much as I want I can’t go AMD. I had so many bad experiences with the 5700xt

  • @ChrisMisMYhandle
    @ChrisMisMYhandle Жыл бұрын

    Yay. Been waiting all day for your video

  • @the_thornhill
    @the_thornhill7 ай бұрын

    Bought a 7900xtx just a bit ago, I don't regret my choice one bit.

  • @Cipher_XoF
    @Cipher_XoF Жыл бұрын

    Another great review. I only watch you and Digital Foundry for these types of reviews.

  • @cyberwaste
    @cyberwaste Жыл бұрын

    I don't want to support nvidia anymore, but I really like raytracing in games. Hopefully my next upgrade in one or two generations will have an AMD card with great raytracing performance.

  • @HookerHeels

    @HookerHeels

    Жыл бұрын

    Raytracing isn't going to take off. nVidia is touting it like its the next big thing for gaming, but its really not.

  • @lickrish3930
    @lickrish3930 Жыл бұрын

    Price dropped the 30 series for sure and 4070ti probably comes in around $800 us.

  • @ReepsWasteOfTime
    @ReepsWasteOfTime11 ай бұрын

    5:05 I am pretty sure there was an issue that got fixed with power consumption

  • @macd7743
    @macd7743 Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the idle power draw, well observed. That idle power is ridiculously high. Whatever is going on there needs to be quickly addressed by AMD.

  • @HookerHeels

    @HookerHeels

    Жыл бұрын

    Easy fix for it. Its your refresh rate. I have two, 32" 1440p 165hz monitors. On idle my 7900xtx was pulling 100w. I changed my refresh to 100hz, my card pulls 30w. Its because it forces the vram to be at full clockspeed instead of an idle speed. 165hz, vram is 2500, at 100hz, vram caps around 40. Its a weird quirk, and hopefully is fixed on a driver level soon, but for now, its a pretty easy fix. Then I just turn my gaming screen back to 165 for gaming and all is well.

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the gaming OC 7900XTX will be better for mini ITX cases, its 2 slot and slightly longer than the reference card

  • @joaohenriquemartins1666

    @joaohenriquemartins1666

    Жыл бұрын

    It's 2 slot? WHAAAAAT

  • @Matthijsz

    @Matthijsz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joaohenriquemartins1666 the xtx is 2.3 slots so yes it fits in most itx cases

  • @joaohenriquemartins1666

    @joaohenriquemartins1666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Matthijsz oh. 2.3 dont work on mine. Got only 43mm of clearance :(

  • @omegaPhix

    @omegaPhix

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@joaohenriquemartins1666 Maybe you'll get it to fit with removing the shroud

  • @ZackSNetwork

    @ZackSNetwork

    Жыл бұрын

    Top end GPU’s are not great for mini ITX cases.

  • @Petoj87
    @Petoj87 Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't resizable bar be more logical? Most users buying this will have it enabled?

  • @eliashabash7591

    @eliashabash7591

    Жыл бұрын

    you can enable it in every nvidia game as well, but then he has to go and retest all the gpus from scratch with rebar so kinda dumb

  • @pelonix

    @pelonix

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eliashabash7591 nvidia doesn't recieve much perf. uplift if any at all for reBar, retesting would take time but 99% of people will enable it anyway

  • @Worms_Pro
    @Worms_Pro Жыл бұрын

    Great info dude.

  • @NightBreakerDK
    @NightBreakerDK Жыл бұрын

    resized bar is working well for AMD, and makes the cards even better.

  • @Empriction
    @Empriction Жыл бұрын

    Video takeaway: Do not buy reference card. (It has heating problems)

  • @jimothyus
    @jimothyus Жыл бұрын

    I see what you did with the 1 min delayed upload. Smart.

  • @EineHauptmann
    @EineHauptmann Жыл бұрын

    I really wonder how these issues will translate, if at all, to the mobile segment. I was really looking to upgrade from my mobile 1050 4 GB (sputtering in anything that looks better than TF2), but the Nvidia -70 GPU is still gimped at 8 GB of VRAM, so that’s off the table. May it be that time allows AMD to release its own mobile GPU’s (which will hopefully offer far more value for 1440p gaming) without the power sucking or wonky drivers.

  • @muscle__rr
    @muscle__rr Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for including blender OptiX vs AMD comparison . Most reviewers use CPU rendering(duh !) when showing blender benchmark

  • @_adonisk
    @_adonisk11 ай бұрын

    @Optimum Tech would nice really nice if you did a follow up, to see how things are nearly half a year later.

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