What a treasure trove of information, thank you for taking the time and laying it all out for us, sure gives me a lot of food for thought. One thing that cought my eye in the fuel part, if the route info said that you were getting 2nm/US Gallon and you were going 8.3kn, your gph should have been 4.15, not 4.7. It caught my eye mostly because the R-31 specs say that it takes 59l for 100km at 7 knots (2.01gph) and Jeanneau Leader 805 takes 32.6l/100km at 6kn (0.83gph), so it seamed little high, but I don't have many points of reference...

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The biggest advantage to keeping the boat in the water is that you will use it at least twice as much. We used to trailer our house until we bought a waterfront house. When you do the math it almost pays for itself to own waterfront

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Ай бұрын

I would love to have waterfront property to moor my boat out back.

The thorough information you provide in your videos makes subscribing to your channel worth it.👍🏾

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

Thanks so much for making this video (and the others). We take ownership of a 2020 R-29 in two weeks and will be based out of Blaine/Bellingham. Super excited and a little nervous at the same time. Hope to see Channel Surfing on the water some day!

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!! We're so excited for you and your new R29! Being up in Blaine/Bellingham, we plan on spending a lot of this summer in the San Juans. Hope to see you out there on the water, stop by and say hi!

Once again, great information in this webinar style video. Thanks !

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you found it informative.

Fabulous , detailed video, thank you

Great question from RKY and your video was super informative and straightforward...it’s not an inexpensive venture but I think with some planning and a realistic understanding of the true cost of boat ownership it can be a great way to make memories and enjoy the great outdoors. Thanks for another great video!

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!! As expensive as boating can be, this is why I work hard at figuring stuff out. The more work I can do myself, the more time and money I save. It also helps me better understand the boat and all of its systems.

@philiprobins5488

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. Reminds me of my career in the Marine Corps and Navy as an aviator. I flew five different aircraft in my career and learning the NATOPS manual, cover to cover was job 1. That is the way I figure to roll if/when I take the leap into yachting.

Excellent information, thank you !

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the excellent info as usual. Our's is done and will be in the water in March. See you soon.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Super exciting!! Can't wait to meet you out on the water!

@craigs103

3 жыл бұрын

@@Letsgochannelsurfing yes, saw you on L the other day but I had the whole crew with me and you looked busy. Plenty of time for sea stories.

Great video. Thanks

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

This is a very informative video. Thank you so much! I have ordered a R-27 2023 just recently for delivery to me in Cape Coral FL. I am a first time boat owner. Your video is very helpful! I have my own dock with lift in the saltwater canal right at my own backyard so I will save some recurring cost. My dock costs me $70K though. Thank you again

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I had a dock in my backyard! Luckily, we live close to the marina. Thanks for watching!

@philiprobins5488

9 ай бұрын

I was wondering how much it would cost to build a dock and lift down in Florida. We are thinking about buying a waterfront lot in the Pensacola area and building a dock for a live aboard Ranger or Cutwater

I personally think the video was very informative, professional, and great information. Unfortunately some people want information for their specifics , no one can do that but them. And as far as volume..get ear buds or a head set. You need them to communicate when docking anyway.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

9 ай бұрын

Well said! Thank you!

That was great. Certainly food for thought around what to buy and how to manage. I'm also (formerly) from Vancouver, so this is probably quite pertinent.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

THIS is GREAT info! Thanks! Im relatively new to boating but a few of my frie ds Own already and Everything you galked about is something that I was advised to knvestigate.. .. i diddent know there werw potentially sooo many fees... but if done right.. not that disimilar to land life fees.. I think im comin aboard in the years to come.. i Already work from home!.. Thanks Again!

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Brilliant.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great video. Just double everything if you live in Canada.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! Thanks for watching! :)

Excellent, Excellent video. I am actually saving it to review again later because it has so much good info. Could you please go over the new lithium batteries they changed the rangers to? I don't know anything about it. I was suppose to get a generator but they "upgraded" me to lithium batteries instead.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and we're glad you enjoyed the video! I'll put something together over the next week or so about the LE edition with Lithium Iron batteries as opposed to the generator. - Martin

@Let's Go Channel Surfing: Great video on your Ranger Tug and costs. Consider myself extremely lucky to learn about Ranger this evening and find this wealth of information in one source. I wanted to ask if you put in that Lucas Oil Fuel Treatment would that kick your 87 up to 89 octane?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

I looked into octane boosters and found that it's not easy to find a product that'll boost 2 full points (87 to 89). Also keep in mind that the boat has a 150 gallon fuel tank. This is important when they say "15 oz treats 25 gallons of fuel". Lucas even states "10 points equals one octane number". So it's looking for something that'll boost at least 20 points. It would take six 15oz bottles of Lucas Octane boost for 1 tank of gas. I couldn't find anywhere they mentioned how many points of octane they boost. The Yamaha F300 operates fine with 87 octane as it's got knock sensors built in.

the audio is very quiet

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

We noticed that as well. Not quite sure what happened. I used a new mic, but it sounded fine, and the quality level looked fine in Final Cut Pro. My wife's going back through the video to figure out what happened so it doesn't affect our upcoming videos.

I pay $4.90 per gallon on land right now, so if you’re paying under $4 per gallon at dock, that’s really good. 😅

@Letsgochannelsurfing

11 ай бұрын

This video is dated. I’m not paying under $5 a gallon at any dock today. Lol

Thanks for a great info. How those RTs handle rough water and stormy waters?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

The boat handles rough seas. Just keep in mind, they are light boats by design since they are trailerable. And there are no stabilizers or similar. They rock snd roll. We’ve been in a solid 3-5 foot sea state for a couple of hours doing 5 knots. Felt like a roller coaster ride. Our video about our Des Moines trip documents the rough seas we were in. RT makes inter-coastal cruisers, they are not designed to cross oceans. We know that in rough waters we will be safe, but rough waters are not fun. So we work really hard to avoid those conditions, and when we found ourselves in those conditions we were looking for a place to hide to wait out the weather. Our trip in 3-5 foot seas. kzread.info/dash/bejne/naR9mK2Dqa6tmrg.html

excellent summary, shipmate, as would be expected from a former submarine swabby. From a former jar head Naval Aviator!

@Letsgochannelsurfing

9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Ouch, that is expensive. I had a 33' wooden powerboat until April this year (2022) and I didn't pay anywhere near that. My boat wasn't a planing hull so I ran at displacement speeds which greatly reduced my fuel costs. Last summer I cruised about 1,000 miles and used about 40 gallons of diesel, so my fuel cost was about $160 last summer. Diesel is actually about 50 cents per gallon cheaper than 90 octane ethanol free gas at my marina in September 2022. I am in Maine so we put our boats into dry land storage for the winter and pay a seasonal fee if we are at a marina. I store in an unheated shed and have an uncovered slip at the marina (there are no covered slips here). Consequently we hauled out every fall and launch in the spring. The marina was the biggest cost for my boat at about $4.8K for the season. If I kept my boat on my mooring the cost would have been about $300 per year, which would reduce my annual costs by about $4,500 per year. Most boats here are kept on moorings. Winter storage including haul, pressure wash, inside cold storage and launch came to about $2,300. Maintenance was not all that much. I estimate that it was typically in the $600 per year range. Maintenance included diesel engine maintenance (oil change, change Racor filter elements and change impeller and on engine fuel filter every 2-3 years. In addition I had to to wood repairs and completely paint the boat (topsides, decks, cabin top, boot stripe, trim and bottom) every year. The cost for paint ran about $250 each year. I didn't have a boat payment and insurance was about the same as yours for coastal from Nova Scotia to South Carolina. We never stayed in another marina since we were at the only marina in our cruising area. Had we gone to another marina, overnight charges run $3.50 to $5 a foot here plus $15-$20 for electricity. You can rent a mooring for $30-$50 per night, but we always anchored. My state registration ran about $80 per year since it was based on boat size, engine horsepower and the age of the boat(older boats got a 40% reduction because my boat was over 20 years old. A new Ranger 27 would cost about $125/year. I figure I spent around $9K to $10K per year. Incidentally winterizing my boat was a trivial cost (about $20-$25 per year).

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Where do you boat at? Bottom paint in the Pac NE runs about $1200 for a 27 ft boat. Moorage anywhere here is from $300/mo on up for a 32’ slip. And they all have wait lists months long. Fuel, at 25 knots, I’m buying time. We will cruise up to 4 hours a day, which gives us a range of about 100nm. But we definitely pay for this speed at the fuel dock at a cost of about 18-21 gph.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

And with $80/yr state registration, I know you’re not in Washington state. Lol! (I pay about $900/yr state registration).

@todddunn945

Жыл бұрын

@@Letsgochannelsurfing As I said, I am in Maine. My bottom paint for my 36' full keel sailboat cost about $120 last spring (paint, roller covers, masking tape). I store my boat in one of the few yards that allows DIY work, but the labor to paint my bottom would only be about $165 at most (3 hours). I paint the bottom every year. I keep my boat at a marina in the biggest tourist area in Maine (Mount Desert Island where Acadia National Park is located. My seasonal slip for a 36' boat cost $5,220 in 2022. Seasonal means from May to to October 31. That slip cost doesn't include power, which for a 30 amp connection is an extra $7.50 per day. I will be at the marina foe about 150 days this season, so electricity would run $1,125 on top of the slip rent. We haul our boats every winter here. My cost for inside winter storage (haul, unstep mast, pressure wash hull, inside cold storage, step masts and launch boat) comes to about $3,700 per year. I am actually considering buying a Ranger Tug 27. I would, of course pay cash for the boat s there would be no payments. I would buy a trailer so I could launch and haul the boat myself and take it home for the winter. I have plenty of room to store a boat at home and where I live the town would never object to having a boat in the yard. In that case my annual costs would be marina (30' minimum charge @ $145/ft) - $4,350, Haul and launch - $ 7.50 for gas to trailer the boat to and from the local ramp which is free. Registration, excise tax and CG documentation - $151, insurance - $2,000 (est) (I would not buy a new boat because I prefer the look of the older inboard boats), fuel - $2,000 (1000 miles per year), Annual maintenance (bottom paint, wax hull, engine oil changes, fuel filters, winterize boat, etc.) - $350 assuming two oil changes per season. So I would be looking at about $8,850 per year. Round it up to $9K per year. I don't consider upgrades since they never amount to more than 3-4 boat bucks and are quite variable from year to year. I also have a mooring. If I kept the boat on my mooring instead of at the marina, my annual cost would be about $4,000 less or about $5K per year. We use the marina now because my wife (78 years old) prefers that to the dinghy ride.

@todddunn945

Жыл бұрын

I am in Maine - Mount Desert Island to be specific. It is a good cruising area since there are dozens of nice anchorages within 20-25 miles and a couple of hundred within a 50 mile radius. We are short on marinas since there are only three within 50 miles.

@philiprobins5488

9 ай бұрын

@todddunn945 How did you talk your wife into boating?

I can't believe you are getting comments on this video. The commercials are loud and clear, but the video sound is so weak I can't make it out.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. We've since upgraded our microphone to improve our sound quality from when this video was published. (This video was recorded on a laptop using the built in mic). More current video's and future video's ought to sound a lot better.

How fast can you motor the boat with the aux engine? Would it be more efficient to use it for cruising the icw and keep time off the big f300?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

The 9.9 HP Yamaha will push the boat at 5kts at about 3/4 throttle. At full throttle, the 9.9kicker consumes about 1gph. So it technically is more efficient at slower speeds and could be used to offload hours from the F300. However, also note, the alternator on the F300 is 70 amps. The alternator on the 9.9, at WOT puts out 6amps which is only about 70 watts. Running on the kicker for long periods of time will drain the batteries slowly unless you were to shut off things such as the Garmin chartplotter and/or refrigerators, or leverage the solar panels.

@willparrish7646

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I am planning on putting around 700 watts of solar on mine when I get it and a 12kw bank of lithium batteries.

Your videos need more volume. I have to have my computer and youtube volume at 100% and still can not hear your video unless there is zero ambient noise in the room.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 жыл бұрын

This video was recorded on a laptop using the mic on the laptop. This was filmed 6 months ago and we have since then upgraded our gear. Thank you for your feed back.

Man, thank you for taking the effort, but I tried to make a spreadsheet from the info you shared... this shit is hard as shit to follow the way you presented it. Would you be interested in sharing it in spreadsheet form?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea. I'll look at doing that for an upcoming video.

Ouch

How is the ride in rough waters ?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Rough water is never fun for anybody. We've had her out in 3-5 seas (30kts of wind). She handled fine, though it was a slow trip (5kts) with lots of pitching and rolling. It was a struggle to stay seated. But she handled the water fine. There are no stabilizers to help. RT's are inter-coastal cruisers not open ocean boats.

The only thing not effected by seawater is seawater.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Yup! Lol.

The moorage costs for covered slips? Are the rates Per month?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Moorage is paid monthly.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Currently, 2022 rates at port of Everett for a 32’ covered slip is around $530/mo.

Volume levels. Cant hear anything.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 жыл бұрын

That is an older video that Martin recorded using his laptop mic. We no longer record those types of videos that way. Unfortunately you have to turn your volume way up to hear it. Thank you

looking at getting my first boat and gonna rent a slip for it down in florida. i know they got electric and water hookup for it as well. question is...how do you drain the sewage on a boat?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Water hookup on a boat is bad. If your spring a leak, your bilge pumps will work non stop. We fill up our water tank manually. San is also pumped out manually at a pump out station. Sometimes marinas will have a boat come around and pump out for you in your slip.

The moorage fees are $450 per month?

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

That's what we pay at Port of Everett for a 32' covered slip. I just looked, they only have 4 spots available. An uncovered spot at Port of Everett, they only have 1 spot available for $335/mo.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

3 жыл бұрын

Cost of moorage varies greatly by location. Much like the real estate market.

@philiplawrence2711

3 жыл бұрын

@@Letsgochannelsurfing Thanks for letting me know. Owning a boat after retirement is something of a dream; it's good to have the numbers up front.

@bocaboy69

3 жыл бұрын

Moorage in South Florida is anywhere from $12-$24 a foot

It takes a special type of person to review all this From a money standpoint and still pull the trigger. I'm that special type of person unfortunately.

@Letsgochannelsurfing

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. You and me both!

Poor volume level on video

@Letsgochannelsurfing

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! I apologize for the poor sound quality. We've since upgraded our cameras and mic's since releasing this video.