I use an older, smaller phone, not my main phone. No other apps installed, no worries about damage etc. Offline maps.

@allanyeates

2 ай бұрын

Do you use a separate sim with the phone for navigation?

@destrozo83

2 ай бұрын

@@allanyeatesnot needed, I use mapsme offline. Did it a lot when I was backpacking/hiking and had my 4G/5G off, works fine.

@chewylandlive

2 ай бұрын

I use an iphone 5s tethered. It's tiny with 1000x more functionality than this thing for quarter the cost. Why doesn't dude know how to disable notifications?

Just ordered the Moto 2. Have had all the previous ones. Great gadget! They should stock these in America, since it takes so long to get them from the UK.

There is no WAY I want my phone in view while riding, so a dedicated but discrete nav device is perfect - the Moto was good, I’ve ordered a Moto II.

@UrbanRiderlondon

Ай бұрын

Nice one!

While I ordered mine before the launch mail went out and I haven't gotten it yet.... others post "long term" reviews. So I assume you got a pre-release model. How long is long term?

@hagnbike

6 күн бұрын

Update, I got mine now. Beeline hat trouble with customs. Frankly the hardware is great, but the software kind of sucks. Not being able to edit imported routes and no offline maps are my biggest issues with it.

Hi. I had the old model which although it was good I struggled with identifying specific turns in cities as the display wasn’t clear enough to identify a junction. Does the new device work better inside a city environment with multiple junctions in close proximity.

Gen 1 was useless in urban environments. Unfortunately I got it after watching other moto vloggers using it, without realizing how the UX would be useless in cities and towns. The new one seems to fix this and other issues (e.g. gpx routes didn't work in my local streets) I have with Beeline, but the increasing reliance on the proprietary app (when it's shut down, the thing becomes a paper weight) and the subscription model creeping in, I'm extra skeptic about it and I'll probably pass. A good mount and a phone with ANY navigation app one might prefer is way more flexible

@XNLC

2 ай бұрын

I completely agree with the app shut down possibility. I think I will buy it anyway but I am a bit scared. However I don't see what they could do to solve this problem.

@wolvy1

2 ай бұрын

I agree with the Gen 1 being useless in urban environments. I had one and even got Beeline to send me a replacement as the one I had kept sending me in wrong directions (I was trialing it on roadways I already knew). Still no improvement. In the end I just went with a communication system on my helmet. Still not the perfect solution but a lot better.

Yea !!! This is what I need ! But not available until week 26....

Can you give some insight into the awesome road or not so awesome road feature. It's a must for me, as some roads turn to poo, too narrow of covered in moss etc, so I need to know how the function works for marking that road as BAD, and when I'm on the great road that I want to ride again, marking that at GOOD. once marked, how do you recall this information???

Thanks for the review! Could you use it also for Offrad Riding for example the TET offroad trails in Europe? The old beeline just supported onroad maps. Cheers

Would the phone be able to connect to this and a Sena at the same time? Would it need to stay connected with the phone to display the turn by turn navigation?

@BramBergs

Ай бұрын

Most phones can handle multiple connections, so yes, your Sena and your Beeline should work at the same time.

@hazy1418

Ай бұрын

Yes it does need to stay connected to your phone via Bluetooth to operate on the road so you need a good 4G / 5G reception otherwise it recomputes the route during bad signal.

3:58 How did you do this? I have a Moto and am not able to save roads/points of interest. Which firmware version do you have? I have been waiting for this feature so desperately. I did even write the Beeline team to suggest implementing it and now I see it here but trying it with my own Moto (pressing left and right simultaneously) does nothing.. Bonus question: Does the Moto II also have it?

Nice review. Also, nice watch mate! 😂

When you plan a route via the app do you have any control as to the places or roads that you pass through to the end destination?

Unlike many comments here I dislike the concept of a phone mount. Having it in your face takes the whole disconnection from smartphone. I just like to put my music and directions via headphones so this is very nice for me. That way, I can keep my clipons clean and tidy and still have navigation with a map. Price though for it is very steep. Too steep. Not to mention the audacity to have a subscription based for audio navigation. I'll pass. And will it even work well in urban areas? I saw comments about the previous gen uselessness. Thanks, UR team.

Doesn’t appear to be for sale yet in America. Just pre-sale interest registration.

Why not mount your Apple or Samsung/Pixel watch on the handlebars instead of using this device? I'd think Apple and Google Maps navigation would be better than Beeline's app and you wouldn't have to spend an extra $220 if you already have a watch. Even if you don't have one already a used watch costs the same or less than a Beeline Moto 2.

Does this work with iPhone 13 pro max or only with 15 and above ?

Good afternoon, can you tell me if this GPS works in the CIS and Russia?

Does the app has an option to plan random round trips? Like in Calimoto

Having a phone on the bars also increases the risk of it being stolen in urban environments. I like the watch!

@PacAnimal

Ай бұрын

Except this is much more expensive than an old phone

Second version looks like much more complicared.

Still waiting for mine to ship, think it's July now.

Would have liked to have seen more info in the review about the new UI on it to be honest. I have the original and love it and I can only assume that it is powered by witchcraft, because since owning it I have used it for a total of 20 hours, 11 minutes and 49 seconds of riding ( 524 miles according to the app) and it is still on 66% charge!

@FunWithAJ

2 ай бұрын

Interesting in the review they claimed only 14 hrs of battery life. Once again this review was flawed.

@BulletBeena

2 ай бұрын

@@FunWithAJ I think that the 14 hours was for the newer model wasn't it? The original has a 30 hour battery life. I guess it's because it isn't always backlit, whereas the new one is. The old one had a ten hour battery life with the backlight on, but because of the type of screen it has, you don't need the backlight on unless it's night.

The best thing they could do for Beeline Moto 2 is to provide the 3D model of the mount that comes with it so people can 3D print better mounts or attachments that can improve the safety of the existing mount. Those rubber bands are garbage and the clamp they offer will only be viable for bikes that have almost nothing on the handlebars since you have to take everything off to get them on.

@BramBergs

Ай бұрын

You could pretty easily design a adapter that fits on one side the Beeline and the other side Quadlock/SP, so you can use on top of your existing mount.

@GaijinGamerGirl

Ай бұрын

@BramBergs if you already have a mount. Either way it doesn't change the fact I'm right

@BramBergs

Ай бұрын

@@GaijinGamerGirl Well, are you? The rubber band mount has been sitting here for years very sturdy and safely and the other ones they sell are excellent too. They sell a mirror clamp too, be creative.

@GaijinGamerGirl

Ай бұрын

@BramBergs You clearly don't live anywhere with abnormally hot and wet weather's, lucky you. Bye troll, life doesn't revolve around you and your vespa.

@BramBergs

Ай бұрын

@@GaijinGamerGirl I clearly do and the winters are very cold too. Too bad. But, you can order the adapter, which combines to every mount with a simple hex screw, so be a bit creative. It's 5 bucks, you could even hot glue it to a fairing :)

Real long term review of a Mk1 black plastic version. Mine stopped working (no longer charges or switches on, screen completely blank) after 26 months. No way of repairing or warranty at this point, so a write off. When it was working it paired to your phone and needed a good 4G / 5G reception, due to that at times it recomputes the route on the ride. This is a problem because it’s not just out for a few seconds but can be up to a minute or two and therefore you are riding blind at these moments. Screen readout is quite small and therefore you need good eyesight. Good points are that it is small, can attach on the handlebars and it is easily placed into your pocket when you park up. Battery life was very good and lived up to the 30 hour factory claim. There is no monthly charge on top of the original purchase price but you do need to consider the overall 2 year shelf life.

@thwingc

Ай бұрын

My Moto 1 had similar behavior. I'm a bit of a tinkerer and took it apart. Found out the fault was the power button itself and managed to sort it and getting it working again. Still using it on my bike and sandrail.

@hazy1418

Ай бұрын

@@thwingc thanks, I’ll give it a try

@AliasMrHackenbacker

Ай бұрын

Totally agree, my experience with the MK1 version was not good. I found the same issues with it re-routing and totally useless in city locations. Luckly mine was still very new and under warranty so sent it back and got a refund. I now use an old phone in a tank bag(with a window) and have audio prompts to my headset.

Hi, I have two questions. 1. Does the device have built-in GPS so I don't need mobile phone to ride? 2. Do I need to pay a monthly fee? Thanks

@Yipcanjo

2 ай бұрын

You HAVE to have a phone for the Beeline device to work. It's an external screen for navigation, and not a nav device by itself. You do NOT need to pay a monthly fee, but they've added a few features behind a paywall -- like correlating voice navigations prompts -- but it's not required.

@user-kp4jt2rc1t

2 ай бұрын

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@Chmatos

2 ай бұрын

@@Yipcanjo Thank you for the explanation.

@joshb3929

2 ай бұрын

No No

@CalmBiker

2 ай бұрын

​That's a real shame. 14 hour battery life of the device will be a lot more than my phone GPS will support it for. ​@@Yipcanjo

I'd be all for this if it worked in conjunction with Google maps for the route.

@PlayLiveGames

2 ай бұрын

It should

@aidencoder

2 ай бұрын

@@PlayLiveGames as in, it does?

@nikolaosberatlis3942

27 күн бұрын

An smartwatch such as Apple/Samsung/Pixel watch is the same size as this device and work with Google Maps. You'd just have to mount it on the handlebars.

Will this works in the US if I imported?

@johnm6683

2 ай бұрын

Yes

I ride wearing polarised lenses so using my phone as sat nav is pointless cos when I look at it the screen blanks. Considering a moto II for myself. Pro tip, if you have your entire life on your phone then you need to reasses your life.

handle bar mounting your phone, even with the dampener can ruin the phones gyroscope.

Great video! Do you know if it fits into the Quad Lock support, or if there is an additional one that does this?

@UrbanRiderlondon

2 ай бұрын

Hi, I'm afraid that only the Beeline mount will work with it. - Iza

Not a review that's up to your usual standard 😞 What's 'Long Term' about the review? Seems more a clickbait title to me!

No offense meant but not the best review you guys have dropped. All i got from this is that the gen 1 was useless for city riding and more enduro suited. Gen 2 is slightly better screen size and improvements but thats it. Also you mentioned a negative of phones being used for navigation is that they eat thru battery life. Doesnt this still require phone gps connection and eat threw the same battery life or does it use it's own gps? If they survive to make a gen 3 i hope it becomes a full fledged gps device. No need for phone unless youre doing an ota update.

@BulletBeena

2 ай бұрын

You use it with the screen off on your phone, so that is much less of a battery drain.

@FunWithAJ

2 ай бұрын

@@BulletBeena I can do the same with my phone. Screen off with GPS voice on. Their review just didn't sell it to me

@BulletBeena

2 ай бұрын

@@FunWithAJ Well yeah....but then you don't have any visual cues. Not really the same thing. It's fine that's it's not for you though. For some it's just the job.

Get a cheap, used phone. Or your old one. Permanently mount it. Don't add any apps you don't want to pop up. Don't mind the camera. FTFY.

Not a „long term review“ at all. Clickbait.

Yeah.... no.. its a product none of us really need, at a price none of us wanna pay... garmin and tom tom sales died with smartphones, its a bold play to start making them for the casual user when they arent needed.. (smartphone) a dedicated adventure biker would get a dedicated unit with more real estate.. I see one reason to use it, moped thieves like to rip phones from motorbikes and probably wouldn't see this.. which reminds me, RoadRash chains would sell well...

@Jonathan-L

2 ай бұрын

A poor man's alternative is to re-purpose an old phone, put on the Beeline app (free), get a phone mount (cheapie Quadlock clones are 10 quid). I've tried doing just that, but I'm old fashioned and just want enjoy the ride and do without any distractions. If I was doing an adventure ride, then I'd probably get a rugged tablet and running Guru Maps (free and well featured), but of course the expense is in the rugged tablet and the good ones are quite pricey, plus the mount kit required.

Going this review very lackluster, don't tally have much better knowledge about this product.. Should of shown more demos of it actually working..

7:12 ... anti reflective? Sorry, I can't agree ... in the video I can see the screen shows the surroundings being reflected from the screen. It would be better with a proper matte screen (and 3000 nits brightness, adjustable of course). C'mon Beeline, you can do it (and make it cheaper please). I'm still sitting on the fence and for the asking price I'm not in a hurry to get one.

Why are all these reviews like carbon copies? There is too much empty talk (water talk) in the video, and there's nothing to talk about. 1. How is the device connected? Bluetooth or Wi-Fi? 2. If Bluetooth, will the headset in the helmet and this device work at the same time? 3. How quickly does the device charge? 10% to 80% , 10 minutes or 10 hours? 4. How does the device behave when overheated? 5. Will the device work if I don't use the manufacturer's app? Just connected via Bluetooth/wifi to the phone + google maps. 6. What exactly does the device show on the map? Does it show the exit from the highway or the exit number and lane? So much empty talk... a well-deserved dislike.

“Long Term Review”??? It’s only just come to the market? You say you used this on your bike… and random bikes in every shot? 🤷‍♂️ (I smell a rat) 🐀

@Yipcanjo

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I kinda wondered how you do a "long term review" of a product that just came out....

@joshb3929

2 ай бұрын

Beeline have had units out with certain people for quite a while now. Go search for reviews. Couple of Beta testers got theirs ages ago.

a paid promotion is what it is. just click the "dont show this crap channel ever again" and forget this hipster exists.

Hi, unfortunately I can’t see the case where this device could replace smartphone. Also I do need smartphone on my bar so I could see who is calling me. Therefore having 2 devices is too much. As for me dears. Thank you.