Folks, we're lucky to have this fine fella. Support his work on Patreon - I do, that's how much I believe in Zevi's work - and make sure to share widely. Thanks so much, Z!

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t tell you how much your support, in word and action, means to me Justin. Thank you. Thank you so very much. Yours, Z.

@ready1fire1aim1

2 жыл бұрын

Joshua✡ and Jesus✝️, the Scepter and the Star ☪️, the First and the Second Messiah. [... = Greek] 1) [Just as] that (IHSOUS), not Moses, conducted the people into the holy land, and that (IHSOUS) apportioned it to those who came in with him; so also IHSOUS XRISTOS will reassemble the diaspora and will allot the good land to each, but not in the same way! ... 2) [Just as] that (IHSOUS) stayed the sun ..., so (IHSOUS XRISTOS) is he from whom [A)F' OU(] and through whom the father is about to make both heaven and earth new, he is the one who will shine in Jerusalem an everlasting light, he is the King of Salem after the order of Melchizedek and the eternal priest of the most high. 3) [Just as] that (IHSOUS) is said to have circumcised the people a second circumcision with stony knives [so IHSOUS XRISTOS by his words circumcised us from idols of stone, etc.]. ... And now I say that, just as by the name of IHSOUS (given) to the son of Naue, certain miracles and mighty deeds were done which heralded/proclaimed beforehand the things about to be done by our Lord, so also I come now to show that the revelation concerning the priest IHSOUS who was in Babylon among your people was a proclaiming/heralding beforehand of the things about to be done by our priest and God and XRISTOS, son of the father of All. Note: if I can figure this out in my PJs on my 🛋, what does that say about Orthodox/State "Religion"? Make Abrahamic Gnosticism (Knowledge-ism) Great Again 👍. Everyone at the Council of Nicea can eat a double decker "💩" sandwich 🥪.

@ready1fire1aim1

2 жыл бұрын

Q: Tower of Babel A (Everyone): Theism or Atheism or Polytheism or Pantheism. A (Me, an intellectual): Pan•en•theism.

My goodness Tzevi!!! Your series is so amazing. Thank you so much for doing this series. I'm loving it. You are such a wonderful scholar and there is so much to learn from such a great a man. I also love the fact that you don't get bogged down with a straight Judaic view of the man and try to explain Maimonides views from a Gnostic point of view. Or at least that is what I thought you said. This illuminating series is becoming very close to my heart. I can't thank you enough. May peace and love be upon you and yours you love.

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend. I’m really touched to hear how much it means to you. Thank you for your ongoing support of the project that allows us to put the time into making it. Much much love, Zevi

25:55 I have been slowly watching this over the past couple of days, and came to the conclusion (the one which my paper is on) that Maimonides is doing for the Jews what Mirandola observed for the Christian, that Man is of indeterminate nature and can ascend or descend on the hierarchy of being depending on his virtuous practice. For Maimonides, since the one who spends his life in constant contemplation of God is the intellectually-perfect one (some might say the Philosopher King) and does not sin, he would be, as Mirandola concludes, of a nature above that of angels, since he is both body and soul (nous) and yet is perfectly virtuous in that act of contemplation. I am very glad to see that my own conclusions correlate with that of a Maimonides expert!

I just watched the video and I am blown away! This is incredibly beautiful which has led me to rewind and watch again. You really dropped a gem on us here. Thank you! By the way, the singing birds were wonderful.❤️❤️.

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you John. I’m so glad you appreciated it. Thank you. Ah yes, a delightful perk of filming (half) outdoors. The wind was really nice too :)

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Now we're getting to the really interesting stuff! Prophecy and angelification through the lens of Maimonides. Fascinating. This was my favorite video yet in this series.

That idea of "Cosmic Unity" from these mystics you talk about... I kinda dig it. I just view that as a metaphorical mental-model on achieving this "Altered State" so profound... it sprouted so many philiosohies, religions and esoteric practices that we now kinda have access today.🤔

28th to like! Thank you so much for the illuminating discussion. When i was initiated by a couple of Quaker preachers 25 years ago, this was the basic idea for ongoing revelation in their tradition too. Aristotle's theory of an active intellect was not even Christianized or adapted to contemporary language. Just straight up, i was trained how to unite with 'the' active intellect. I was not informed however that it would transform me into an angel. And i do not mean to imply that this is how all Quakers do their thing. I am curious whether if every tradition that has angels in its metaphysics attributes angelhood to the mind of its prophets. It seems almost like a conceptual truth that it is messengers that provide messages, and divine messages would come from divine messengers and if divine messengers is just another way of saying angels, well, is there more to it? Perhaps we all have had many angelic conversations. Much love!

Incredible information, thank you very much!

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

You’re most welcome friend. It’s a pleasure to share.

I love this channel so much!

@SeekersofUnity

Жыл бұрын

Love you ❤️

Filming at the library!!! How have I never thought of this?? I've been brainstorming locations to get started for quite awhile, but that's quite an idea. I love libraries.

Great as always! ל"ג בעומר שמח

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend. Chag Sameach 🔥

Dude, you are brilliant 👏

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend 🙏🏼 You’re shining

oow congrats! your chanel have improved a lot seen the first videos!

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend 🙏🏼 We aim to improve incrementally with each upload. Glad it’s working.

im a new viewer and very grateful, chazak ubrauch

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome friend. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for saying hi and introducing yourself :)

When u seek knowledge, answers will come. Just found ur video, love ur work man🖤

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother. Welcome 🙏🏼

thank you!

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

You’re most welcome friend 🙏🏼

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but the honour of kings is to search out a matter. (Proverbs 25:2 KJV)

Thanks!

@SeekersofUnity

Жыл бұрын

You’re most welcome.

Wow. Thank you Zevi. Beautifully crafted. Us listeners really are very fortunate to have you. May The Creator continue to give you health and clarity of mind. One way of framing the metaphysical systems which the Rambam wrote from inside of: An attempt to use words to trigger a visualization characterized by Truth in the "mind's eye" of the reader; to trigger a 'from the neck up' Cartesian-mental-visual-verbal experience. These metaphysical systems feel strangely rigid while the body and the senses are engagingly engaged by the (demands of the) physical environment. To the Rambam, the ideal state / utopia is a disembodied intellectual experience. Contrast with views which assert that the ultimate state / utopia is an embodied one. (Not to mention approaches which seek to blur the distinction between body/mind, movement/thought...) I would love to see a follow up series exploring viewpoints which developed in conscious opposition to disembodied metaphysical systems. ואין הדבר כאשר חשב הרב המורה ז"ל במורה הנבוכים בהיותו משבח לארסט"ו על מה שאמר כי חוש המשוש הוא חרפה לנו. חלילה, אין הדבר כמו שאמר היוני, לפי שדעתו היוני יש שמץ מינות שאינו מורגש, שאלו היה מאמין שהעולם מחודש בכוונה לא היה אומר כך זה היוני הבליעל. he.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%93%D7%A9_%D7%9C%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%91%22%D7%9F A relevant observation: There are zero mentions of the brain organ in the Old Testament. rationalbelief.org.il/%D7%94%D7%90%D7%9D-%D7%9B%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A2%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%94-%D7%A2%D7%9D-%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%97/

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother, and i you, amen. That's a wonderful idea. I'd love to get to that one of these days. We’re major fans of the body/body-soul-mind here 😉

Waaw ,, i have read his book the guid for perplexed one year before in Arabic it was so difficult i will re read it again now after this i am sure it will be more easier 🙏🏽

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it.

"Do you feel me?" I do Zevi, I feel you : )

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what we like to hear ;)

This is awesome! I was wondering whether or not you were planning at any point to bring up The Rav and the ways in which he integrates the Rambam into his philosophical system, especially in the last few chapters of part of 2 of Halakhic Man. He seems to take the Rambam's notion of angelification and the search for prophecy and expresses it not just positivily, but as a direct ethical and halakhic mandate that each and every person is obligated to seek out - if my read is correct. It's...really something!

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Oren. Glad you're enjoying it. We weren't planning on bringing up the Rav directly but we do plan on taking the closing of the series in a similar direction, G-d willing. Feel free to send through some quotes or citation with page references to the work you're referring to. Yours, Zevi

Michael considers himself to be Odin. I also consider myself to be Odin in Raphael aspect. Michael was here first though. I have only became, more recently. My closest friend is Loki, who I consider to be Oriel. Thor seems to be a fitting match for Samael, but I have known Loki since before I was Gabriel. I can't remember exactly when Loki became though. I did not know myself to be Gabriel until after I had found Michael. Loki may have been later again, but he was clearly always supposed to be. We were always strangely similar, despite being somewhat unusual. I was quite happy as Gabriel for a while, until I became proud, and again lost my temper. That was when I realised I could only be Samael. Lilith was very happy that day. It was much later, I discovered she intended to make me into Raphael.

Dude! #Maimonides concept of "Angelification" is kinda WILD! But you're right... "Deification" is way better and "Angelification" is sort of prelude ladder to that. But... I see it as him trying to create or synthesize a mental-model of these "Altered States" that he may or may have not "experienced". Plus throw the influence of Aristotelian Spheres, Neo-Platonism and Jewish Mysticism from the Torah (I think you can correct me if I'm wrong)... you kinda this fusion which is not bad mental-model to think about the true nature of reality.🤔

The problem with the Maimonidean conception of prophecy is that this world is not ordered and linear the way he likes. Bonafide psychic experience, like money, rests on many who don't seem deserving necessarily and didn't work to earn it. It comes of its own. The development of it has more to do with learning to tune into one's intuitive faculty than character work or tight control of the "passions" and keeping mitzvot religiously. Maimonidies' philosophy here is a wish and a hope, not really reality though there may be some overlap with the way things are.

Is the lovely birdsong audible during the presenter's excellent commentary, an added feature of the soundtrack, or is that what one would hear if one could visit our presenter's booklined study? 🕊️🤔🐦

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t guarantee that they’ll be there when you come. They come and go as they please. But.. they were there for the recording :) 🦢

amazing as always, just an unrelated question about zohar, and luria, his myth of the breaking of the vessels, is it possible that one could view the repair of G-d as the repair of the imminent one, the shekhinah, and as one repairs the shekhinah(her imbuing existence with herself, breaking the unity with Hashem) is repairing of the shekhinah herself, and thus reunification of the holy one and his matrona? Sorry for the spew, loved the video and the idea came to me whilst watching. Great as always, and a consistent blessing

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend 🙏🏼 Certainly. I don’t think we can talk of the repair of God without talking of the re-union of God. A reuniting of the masculine and female is the process of tikkun. Much love, Zevi

Fundamental

You’d have to believe in the RamBam because as we all know Judaism is a faith about living and for the living it is not a religion of death and or based on what death gives or brings to you.

Maimonides hints that a prophet takes part of the "shefa" - Divine overflow chain, when he teaches humans the right path to God. See his interpretation of ladder of Jacob in GoP I.15, where he outright states that the angels are prophets.

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Elijah 🙏🏼

@EliAbramzon

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeekersofUnity I think Maimonides has done so himself when he wrote the Mishne Torah. See his introduction and how he relied in the Rock (Tsur) just as Moses did on mount Sinai.

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Mmm. Yes. That’s wild stuff. From Moses to Moses…

לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי לכובד התנא אלוקי רבי שמעון בר יוחאי

I personally believe we are telepathically talking to one another. What do you think? All opposition is ultimately ONE. The man and woman and Jew and Gentile who are perfectly in balance are connected to ONE and I believe that place is all knowing. We are only connected to it currently in a dysfunctional way but we are becoming closer to it as we are breaking the barriers of physicality or the walls like relligion that has kept us isolated from loving one another.

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Coincidentia Oppositorum. Amen to that.

In the words of The Guide, you are close the bit but far from the reins. Simplify, simplify, simplify. You have become lost in the wiring. Good fortune.

Great video, as always! You might be interested in Lloyd Gerson's book Aristotle and Other Platonists (2005, Cornell University Press), where he argues that the supposed opposition between Plato and Aristotle is a false one. Rather, Aristotle is a kind of Platonist, albeit with some notable differences from Plato himself (e.g. Aristotle's priority of Intellect vs. Plato's priority of the Good). Gerson shows that this view of a basic harmony between Plato and Aristotle was commonplace in the Ancient world, especially among the Neoplatonists, who drew freely on both Plato and Aristotle (though of course giving ultimate priority to Plato).

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend I’d love to check that out. Just curious, does he argue that the Aristotelians felt the same way about the Platonism? And is he arguing this for just the ancients for the Middle Ages as well? 🙏🏼

@dylans3307

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeekersofUnity Thanks! Good questions. Gerson tends to focus on the Neoplatonists, but my impression is that the Peripatetic school did not really survive past Alexander of Aphrodisias (c. 200 AD), meaning the Neoplatonists didn’t have any contemporaneous fully-fledged Aristotelians to contend with (they mostly had to face Stoics, Skeptics, and other Hellenistic schools). With that said, I think Gerson would affirm that, whether they said so explicitly or not, the Peripatetics were Platonists too. This is because Gerson defines Platonism simply as the view that there is an immaterial-eternal-intelligible world, which is the ontological ground of the material-temporal-sensible world. (Platonism thus further entails anti-skepticism, anti-naturalism, anti-relativism, anti-materialism, etc.). Insofar as Aristotle and the Aristotelians held that there was an intelligible world (esp. the eternal substance of God’s self-thinking thought, as studied by metaphysics) grounding the sensible world, Aristotelianism is a form of Platonism. As for the Middle Ages, Gerson’s own work stops roughly with Damascius (c. 500 AD), who was the last scholarch of the School of Athens, before it was forced to close by the Emperor Justinian I. But I think that Gerson would again affirm that the major philosophers and theologians of the Middle Ages should all be construed as Platonic-Aristotelian harmonists. (Though with that said, it may certainly be possible that some thinkers of the Middle Ages did not understand themselves in quite this way, but rather saw themselves as upholding either Plato against Aristotle, or Aristotle against Plato. But Gerson would contend that this would be misguided, at least at the general level of affirming reality of the intelligible world. The common enemies of Plato and Aristotle are the materialists and naturalists, i.e. all those who think that there is only the sensible material world. Of course, this is unfortunately a popular view today!)

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, fascinating. Thank you so much for that detailed reply 🙏🏼

@dylans3307

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeekersofUnity My pleasure! Thanks for all your great work :)

Hey, I'm a lunatic as a matter of fact: just take that first step!

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I’m curious. Has anyone here experienced ecstatic speech (in a language other than one’s own-“glossolalia”) and/or melody/song during prayer/lamentation? Has anyone come across Jewish esoteric sources documenting these types of experiences?

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

For some sources check this out: jewish-music.huji.ac.il/yuval/22809 and this one in specific: jewish-music.huji.ac.il/sites/default/files/05%20Music%20and%20Prophetic%20Kabbalah%20pp%20150%20-169%20-%20Mosh%20Idel%20incl%20title%20page%20abreves.pdf

@KristySeeks

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeekersofUnity thank you 🙏🏼

So, when I die do I get to be one of those beings that people see, well I got that going for me! You all better watch out! 😉 Science is still trying to understand psychological transformations like psychosis and has less understanding of spiritual experience. Demonification is obviously psychosis and negative emotions and fear cause the mind to become disorganized, my theory is spiritual experience causes positive emotions to compound and lead to greater organization. It should not be the goal because obviously not everyone gets that level, even according to Maimonides.

Wow... this is like proto-version of the Ten Sefirot. Aristotelian & Neo-Platonism influences... hmm ... 🤔 #Spheres #Kabbalah

@SeekersofUnity

Жыл бұрын

😉

Is 'angelifacation' not similar to the Buddhist model of advancement?

Rambams version of modern day nevuah fits kid of with the talmudic saying of Chacham Adif MiNavi. A scholar is better than a prophet. Also, Doesnt the talmud say after the era of the late biblical prophets only children and mentally handicapped are recipients of prophecy. Also would like to point out the difference maybe between ruach hakodesh and nevua. Maybe there are different levels of prophecy or enlightenment, so the distinction gets blurry. just some thoughts of mine that arose...lchaim

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Word. Thanks for sharing those thoughts. There’s been a lot written on how nevuah continues on even after the talmud says it finished. Check out Heschel’s essays and Afterman’s on ruach hakodesh and nevuah, both cited in the description of the video for more on that in relation to Rambam.

Are you describing Jacobs ladder??

@SeekersofUnity

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that metaphor works here.

@willowwainwright7687

Жыл бұрын

😊l thought the same thing this t

I believe in the cosmic consciousness and have prof, but becoming an angle I doubt.

Joshua✡ and Jesus✝️, the Scepter and the Star ☪️, the First and the Second Messiah. [... = Greek] 1) [Just as] that (IHSOUS), not Moses, conducted the people into the holy land, and that (IHSOUS) apportioned it to those who came in with him; so also IHSOUS XRISTOS will reassemble the diaspora and will allot the good land to each, but not in the same way! ... 2) [Just as] that (IHSOUS) stayed the sun ..., so (IHSOUS XRISTOS) is he from whom [A)F' OU(] and through whom the father is about to make both heaven and earth new, he is the one who will shine in Jerusalem an everlasting light, he is the King of Salem after the order of Melchizedek and the eternal priest of the most high. 3) [Just as] that (IHSOUS) is said to have circumcised the people a second circumcision with stony knives [so IHSOUS XRISTOS by his words circumcised us from idols of stone, etc.]. ... And now I say that, just as by the name of IHSOUS (given) to the son of Naue, certain miracles and mighty deeds were done which heralded/proclaimed beforehand the things about to be done by our Lord, so also I come now to show that the revelation concerning the priest IHSOUS who was in Babylon among your people was a proclaiming/heralding beforehand of the things about to be done by our priest and God and XRISTOS, son of the father of All. Note: if I can figure this out in my PJs on my 🛋, what does that say about Orthodox/State "Religion"? Make Abrahamic Gnosticism (Knowledge-ism) Great Again 👍. Everyone at the Council of Nicea can eat a double decker "💩" sandwich 🥪.

Can I ask, how is your journey?

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Difficult. Thank God. Thanks for asking.

@CapiSocialist

2 жыл бұрын

Are you a practitioner of any sort? Genuinely just interested if you’ve ever had any experiences relatable to what’s really being presented here

@SeekersofUnity

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. There are only non-experiences.

@CapiSocialist

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeekersofUnity There’s no readily available way of saying this to people in a way that I’ll heard or understood because most people lack the context, but if I had to describe myself, the most appropriate word for me is mystic. I want to make clear though, it’s not an egoic spiritual stance to take, it’s a character trait and it really isn’t all roses and sunshine all the time. My perspective of experience is not typically grounded within one coherent frame of reference. The roles that our internal senses and feedbacks play within us to interpret our experience in any moment, for me, their relationships and the degree to which they are present shifts between interactions and I have a perspective to see and be aware of those changes. I’m able to put my awareness on singular aspects of experienced reality with relative ease. Touch, sight, nothingness, concepts… It allows me to see and feel the world differently. When I learn something new or encounter a true realisation, it can drastically alter my lived experience. This is the way I’ve always been but as a child I couldn’t communicate any of this because it’s so abstract from convention. It’s only in recent years, coming up to the age of 30, I’ve began to learn how to articulate these things. I believe I’ve had a number of direct experiences to what many religions touch on and in my own experience, I can say I’m yet to find a religion that doesn’t touch on some kind of fundamental truth. (Disclosure, I’m just an average guy with a job, a partner and kid, getting by like everyone else!)

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Does Tzevi have a P.H.D in philosophy?

@SeekersofUnity

Жыл бұрын

He does not. He’s an autodidact (insofar as such a thing is possible).

Maimonides trying to explain the Holy Spirit 🤔

So "Angelification" is sort of a Jewish Kabbalah/Mysticism version of Apotheosis... sort of.🤔

@SeekersofUnity

Жыл бұрын

I think Jewish Mysticism features both Angelification and Apotheosis.

Rambam and the elder enlightened sages using the Same Star system to guide their way andz safely get both Talmuds to the Acacdemic. Cityaa