Rest In Peace to Nikolai Kardashev who sadly passed away to become a Type IV civilization in the beyond on August 3rd 2019. What a wonderful mind, he will be missed.

Sean Mcguire

13 күн бұрын

@Andew Tarjanyi Considering we haven’t even been beyond the moon what do we know where the van civilizations would look like. We’re only humans your argument doesn’t hold water

Lex Kross

2 ай бұрын

"Halo rings," massive and multiple around the planet, covered in solar panels (Twice or triple size of a planet in diameter). Second way is to reflect enough light to prevent heating of a planet, while building fusion reactors on the single "Halo ring" around planet and transfer energy through a space lift (Orbit to ground wire).

Blazinriver

6 ай бұрын

How does a race ever make that far when every few hundred 1000 years or less our star resets the Earth's surface sending everything back to the "stone age"?

D-nic3

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

We should probably focus more on not becoming type "extinct" civilization

Caleb Kimm

3 күн бұрын

An arresting though no doubt. True talk!

B3astcodeer 1555

Ай бұрын

Fair point

Emilio H

Ай бұрын

We probably will like every other one

Chapter Leo

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

seeing stuff like this makes me depressed knowing I won't live long enough to see this happen, almost like how people in the 1800s can't see how much we've evolved from back then

Cabal77

15 күн бұрын

Your thinking should be about the amazing stuff you _will_ see, like in 10-20-30 years.

Static-Assets284

20 күн бұрын

Same. :( but it also kinda makes me jealous that there are more advanced civilizations out there.

Eternal Solitude

Ай бұрын

@Joshua Dowdle can you suggest some novels?

William

Ай бұрын

@Casual Gamer: Don’t get your hopes up for a mind upload. It would almost certainly just be a copy of your mind if it happens. So you’d be dead and a copy of you would be trapped in some data cloud at the whims of whomever controls it. Sounds like a living hell for those digital copies. But again, you’d be dead.

Infinitism Gaming Zone (IGZ)

Ай бұрын

You will. You just wont remember... Yet.

Something I just now thought of, halfway through this presentation, is that we are also using less energy to do the same things as before. In other words, efficiency. That might throw the numbers off even more.

Carl Gunderson

Ай бұрын

@Marshingo Ehh, that's not always the case.

Vladimir The Great

3 ай бұрын

@Marshingo E=E that has nothing to do with efficiency.

Thomas Brown

5 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing about type 3 civilizations. Just because you can harness energy doesn't mean have too. I would imagine there would be times and places where a civilization would use more or less. A interstellar starship might use more energy than a planet. Or a planet further from a host star may use more energy for warmth than a planet in a goldilocks zone.

Tesla Kuhn

6 ай бұрын

@Star Dog you're right. We need to make efficiency a globally availability concern. Before trying to force someone on other means of energy production, I think efficiency might do much the same thing as the goal. Then add renewables afterwards. To seal the deal, so to speak.

Star Dog

6 ай бұрын

@Hank Hill Not in this case. Too many factors including human indifference. Jevons paradox can not be considered in this case because counter examples exist. For example, people arguably don't care about the energy efficiency of household appliances enough for it to change consumption patterns. Jevons Paradox relies on a certain set of parameters to be followed by all involved and if one deviates the paradox is broken, in this case humanity. While somethings we strive to make as efficient as possible others we don't so their will never be the symmetry needed for the Jevson paradox to throw off Kardashev's scale.

I always assumed a type 1 lived on multiple planets, type 2 lived on multiple solar systems and type 3 lived on multiple galaxies. I don't see how you can control and consume so much energy on a single planet.

J040PL7

Ай бұрын

The way I learned it was, a type one can control fully the energy of a whole planet, a type two, can control fully the energy of a star and so forth.

Brentonius_III

3 ай бұрын

Gotta remember this is from an from the 50s if we recreated this level of civilisation I personally believe type 1 should be created smaller scale and fully agree with your thoughts

I'd say: Colonize a frozen world, absorb/use the solar power efficiently, have the dissipated heat make the planet more habitable.

Sean Soraghan

Ай бұрын

If we could do that Then we can build o’nell cylinders instead much more efficiently

Christopher Ellis

2 ай бұрын

Hugo I You go first

Nutjob Chuck

2 ай бұрын

@banditmain He is from the future and is speaking how they speak as a type 1 Kardashev civilization. Strange dialect they’ve got ahead there.

Russ ianFolkTales

4 ай бұрын

That’s what i have been trying to do with my home in Siberia

With fusion reactions finally having been used to create more energy than what is used in order to create the fusion reaction, it might actually be possible to become a kardashev type I civilization.

iMagZ z

2 ай бұрын

That isn't actually what happened. That was only when they look inside the reactor. Taking everything into account to power it, we still put more energy into it than the amount we got out. Sadly there has been a lot of misconception about this as there was a lot of hype around it, but no, we haven't actually breached that point properly yet.

If we can just figure out a way to harness Twitter-fuelled outrage and turn it into energy, we'll easily hit that x1000000 target.

Eylsno Kissile

4 ай бұрын

@Michael james BINGO!!!!

Eylsno Kissile

4 ай бұрын

@Descript O Actually negativity in ALL its forms IS negative, dark "energies". It only strengthens ITSELF, and weakens everything else you try to infuse it with. It only breeds MORE "misery" and negativity.

Eylsno Kissile

4 ай бұрын

Good idea, except that negative energies of all kinds, only breeds and fuels MORE negative energy. That is MUCH of what is wrong with the world.

I would say that it is a safe assumption that any civilization that approaches type 1 would also posses the ability to freely travel through its own solar system, and settle the various bodies there.

Kian Walker

3 ай бұрын

@Jeremy Chau type 2 would be full control over the solar system and dyson sphere level technology harnessing the power from the sun, travelling around the solar system wouldn't require us to be type 2, type 1 would be sufficient, we just wouldn't have "type 1 earth" levels on every other planet

Raminagrobis

4 ай бұрын

Gee, I need my pink glasses 😂 Star Trek is not a documentary. There are actual limitations that may sound trivial to those who love science fiction. Space travel is limited by speed, and speed is limited by the risks of high-kinetic energy, catastrophic collisions. At best, we may hope to travel to planets such as Jupiter or Saturn if we succeed with hibernation techniques, which are not currently being studied for humans, but who knows? Realistically, hibernation isn't possible for extremely long periods: the body's metabolusm isn't stopped completely so there is still a degradation and aging aspect to consider. And I haven't even mentioned other enormous limitations such as cosmic ray exposure - which can't be blocked completely as you should know, and the very serious negative effects of long periods of weightlessness on the skeleton, cartilage and muscles, especially the heart. No easy task to "travel freely through space". Sorry for ruining the party...

scott orpwood

6 ай бұрын

I would say it goes hand in hand the power requirements for such a travel system is what is holding us back.

Jeremy Chau

8 ай бұрын

@Noah Rubin I think type 2 is other solar system

Noah Rubin

9 ай бұрын

I think that’s type 2, isn’t it?

Thank you Dr. Kipping for another excellent episode of Cool Worlds. You are one of my heroes that I look up to. Excellent work.

One thing to keep in mind that it is not just about the energy consumption, it's also about controlling the energy and use it in effective and constructive ways.

This professor makes complex science understandable for armchair science fans like myself. I was terrible at math and physics in my youth, but I loved the theoretical aspects of science. Especially geology and paleontology. Keep teaching well prof. We need the link to improve our collective intelligence so everyone can comprehend the dire situation our species faces before the political idiots run us over the cliff. Rock Onward Intelligently!

Another quality video. Personally, I question Kardashev's assumptions, which I think are rather sci-fi. In time, energy use would ideally become more efficient and the measure of a civilisation's advancement would be ever less based on the energy they use and ever more on the amount of integrated information they process. The animal kingdom provides an example. Empowerment based on size had its limits, with increased information processing turning out to be more potent.

Kenny Rudin

Ай бұрын

@Maxim the entire comment is a run on sentence and it only helps prove the original comment's point

Maxim

5 ай бұрын

​@eric Miller the punctuation and sentence structure of this comment hurt my brain

Patrick Warren

9 ай бұрын

@eric Miller I shoyld clarify, I was talking about efficiency (AND knowledge) in expending energy, not in collection. I guess, it seems like there isn't that much more that we could do simply if we had more energy; certainly, there are some, but technology needs to advance enough for us to use that much energy in useful ways first, as well as ways to deal with heat waste.. But I see your point.

eric Miller

9 ай бұрын

@Patrick Warren well no because that's not obviously how the Kardeshev scale is measured and they are already building a fusion machine in Germany it isn't completely about the efficiency doesn't matter how efficient cause the energy consumption would max out the efficiency the more energy regardless of how efficient if it was really efficient the more energy there is and Thier for the more energy you will use that's why civilizations would need to start harvesting energy from suns because the more energy they have the more that's gonna be used for advances in science and technology so even if a civilization was able to maintain efficient limitless energy it wouldn't be limitless completely if you had all that energy you would be using the entire capacity all the time to advance so in reality you'd need to keep extending the amount of energy output you need

Patrick Warren

9 ай бұрын

@eric Miller I think you missed his point. He's saying that rather than measuring the quantity / amount of energy consumed by a civilization, it would be better to measure their efficiency. A civilization that can do task A using 100 watts is probably a lot more advanced than a civilization that needs to use 1000. Also, maybe we can use x watts to power a bunch of cars, but a civilization that has more access to information (create worm holes, terraform, etc) is far more advanced, even if they're using similar amounts of energy.

im fascinated by the universe, astronomy, science, etc.. i love it. Its just crazy to think about how BIG the universe is and how small we are in comparison.

I think a way around the problem you mentioned is similar to your second proposal. Instead of having to spread the population around the solar system to dissipate the heat, we can probably offload a lot of the things that actually consume the energy into space such as automated heavy industrial manufacturing. We can collect the energy in space with massive solar arrays and mostly keep it up there only sending down just enough power to run the products back home.

Thank you for sending me the link David, and responding to my request, this is such a fascinating breakdown of physics. It goes beyond the mind, its so massive to consume.

Your active support structures could act as giant heat exchangers. In fact I believe you could use glycol as an active support substance if you really wanted.

What an excellent overview! @Cool Worlds Do you mind if I ask what is Cool Worlds' source for mankind's 2017 power consumption of 1.7 x 10^17 watts? And where can the latest figure be found? Many thanks!

I was watching this and it cut to an ad. The exact words I heard were "That leaves us with 2 options. Solar energy and - Explosive diarrhea? Upset stomach? Painful indigestion?".... I laughed for like 4 minutes straight.

Lucas Mroczynski

10 ай бұрын

I dont think I want to see a world thats powered by explosive diarrhea xD

tahuaroa

Жыл бұрын

this is comment gold 😂

Johnny Ionica

Жыл бұрын

That's priceless.

Sheslogic

2 жыл бұрын

😂🤣🤣😂

NBA KevDuck

2 жыл бұрын

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Great video as always! We've a long way to becoming a Type 1 Civilisation imo. We'll get there though.

Sir, it is such a pleasure to listen to a well presented notation of an intelligent person.!

If we consider basking in the sun, growing plants for food and keeping the wildlife as things we want, this should also be considered as consuming the energy from the sun. A bit hard to calculate the amount of energy for this, I know.

Amazing videos! I have a question, Space grows into what ? Everything we know has some volume but then how can space be expanding into an infinite volume? The 2 slip experiment shows that data is given to us when we are looking for it but when we are not the characteristic of the data changes. How can a molecule transmission from mass to light? This concludes that matter is intelligent which only can lead to some sort of a biological virtual simulation of our evolution. Can we already be into a Type 2 or 3 civilization, the computing power required to simulate "our solar system" would be at least a type 2. We read books of our history , if we would be a billion years older and we would had the capability to create a victual biological simulation of our evolution so we can study it as a scientist do you think it would be done?

The Kardashev scale originally was meant to describe the power of advanced civilizations, in particular, those that have achieved the ability of space flight. It uses a geometric progression based on the amount of power accessed by the species as it grows. The earliest emerging civilizations don't appear, except as fractional numbers, because their activity is not very significant on a cosmic scale. These only get a full count when they might be noticed by a theoretical "outside observer," as you will soon see. I am adding a few extra levels to the original three, since there was little use for that as a measuring stick to evaluate gradual progress. Let me start near the beginning, when the culture starts to reveal its potential significance. Type One: "Novice" (revised) intensive use of more than half of the planet's habitable surface area for urban dwelling, agricultural production, industry or resource extractive purposes. Oceans, ice caps and deserts are not typically considered habitable, although some oases may exist. Type Two: "Unstable" (revised) threatening the ecological health of the planet by careless practices, whether by stripping resources, excessive pollution, or loss of secondary species. Type Three: "Emergent" (revised) has acquired sufficient technology to make space flight and colonial ventures possible. Potential for mass self-destruction demands a quest for coexistence. Type Four: "Maximized" (original) Type One: intentional use of all the insolation received by the planet for food or power. (revised) has accessed or made feasible all of the resources and energy available on the planet. Approaching a sustainable global regime for shared resources and political consensus or a tolerant balance of powers. Type Five: "Outbreak" (revised) has established self-sufficient populations, with trade routes, in multiple extra-planetary colonies, and continuing to spread. Industrial development of free-floating habitats, space infrastructure and specialized project construction begins. Type Six: "Established" (revised) has explored the entire stellar system in sufficient detail to map a super-majority of its geography and resources. Technological proficiency allows pioneers to colonize the frontiers at will, and choose political independence. Type Seven: "Expansive" (original) Type Two: intentional use of all of the energy output of the star for habitation and industrial purposes. (revised) complete access to all of the resources and energy available within the star system, including its planets, moons, and smaller satellites. Experimental robotic ships explore the nearer neighboring star systems and the conditions of intermediate space. Type Eight: "Arrival" (revised) first colonies established around other star systems. Ultrahigh-energy physics experiments explore the potential for travel at relativistic or supra-lightspeed velocities. Type Nine: "Manifesto" (revised) seeding the stellar neighborhood with many colonial ventures, discovering the range of variety of system formation and geography, and revealing the frequency of the origins of life. Type Ten: "Epitome" (original) Type Three: acquisition and use of the entire energy output of all of the stars in the whole galaxy. (revised) technological capacity to range at will throughout the galaxy, planting colonies, developing resources and tapping unlimited energy as needed to sustain the presence and growth of the species in all its various iterations. Sophisticated modes of long distance travel and self-contained habitat ships allow for sporadic attempts to surpass galactic boundaries. Conclusion: As you can see, the original version of the Kardashev scale assessing the power use of a space-faring civilization was excessively over-simplified. Having only three tiers, it did not allow for any detail or description of the intermediate stages of development. At every stage, it required an "all or nothing" obvious achievement in order to advance to the next rung of the ladder, and totally lacked any descriptive or predictive powers. This revised version does have more capacity for descriptions, and also allows for a certain amount of flexibility. It can be used to note and measure some fractional attainments, and can accept some skipping and mixing of non-linear development patterns, while still offering some definite levels of meaningful achievement for comparisons. Nor does the new scale have to terminate at the edge of the galaxy, or proceed to such degrees as beggar the imagination. At Type Eleven, the colonization of another galaxy, and at Type Twelve, the colonization of the whole local group of galaxies is enough, while further expansion into the greater Super Cluster and beyond may be designated by more numbered levels. These do however go so far beyond the imagination that those technologies would likely appear magical to our sensibilities. And any further would simply involve the acquisition of the entire knowable Universe. It seems probable that, at some point, even before we claim the far reaches of our own galaxy, we are likely to discover another intelligent, civilized and space-faring species and learn not only whether the scale is truly useful, but have the realization that we must share the Cosmos with our neighbors. And that will be a clear answer to one of the oldest questions we have ever thought to ask. If you wish to adopt and promote this revised scale for the comparison of developing civilizations and space-faring technology, you may be my guest. I ask only that you acknowledge and attribute it to its source, and name it the "Makarios Scale." Makarios means "Blessed" in greek, and any species and civilization that this scale would measure should be well aware of their blessings. And I thank you for your patience and kind consideration. Shalom. I published this in September 2020, in my own obscure little blog: www.emunahechad.blogspot.com

DYC Plays

2 ай бұрын

The Kardashian - GIRL power

I would definitely argue that a Type I would necessitate the civilization be multi-planetary. But Kardashev's quantification of the classification requiring 100% consumption of local stellar energy directed at a planet is extremely variable, as if we think about it while assuming extraterrestrial non-human civilizations exist then applying this rule to a civilization which may have developed around a lower output star lowers the bar considerably for them, not to mention if the civilization inhabits a planet with a significantly different atmospheric composition. So Kardashev's criteria is a good starting point, but I would think needs to be refined, or at least thought of differently. A multi-planetary Type I civilization maybe need consume 100% of planetary stellar radiation reception for their planet of origin but utilized across their entire civilization? This fits still within the rule, as a multi-planetary Type I which consumes 100% of stellar radiation on each individual planet has a total consumption greater than 100% of a single planet's reception, pushing it beyond a Type I and well on its way to a Type II.

uberfu

11 ай бұрын

Or go the opposite drieciton - Our star is tiny compared to other stars (we're talking golf ball compared to a city size differences. Not to mention Red giants have less energy than a comprable main sequence like our sun. What about a Pulsar, a Neutron Star, Or what about star systems with 2-3 stars where a potential stable planet might orbit ? Our star system is a lesser percentage of a typical star system having only 1 star. Most star systems employ planets oprbiting 2-3 stars. How does Kardashev's concept tie into a civilizations on a plent orbiting a system like Alpha Centuari (3 stars); do they only have to ahrness the equivalent power of one of their stars; can they choose the star with less power; do they have to harness the power of all 3 stars to gain the same equivalency as we would ?

Robert X

11 ай бұрын

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Riley Manderscheid

11 ай бұрын

@Crow The Borg

cammandooooobeast

Жыл бұрын

Humans 0 Saiya-jin 1 to 6 Angels 7 😇 Kalki Ironman 5th matriya buddha 8th arc Angel 11th satguru 13th imam and 24th avatar after 2026 😎 Almighty God 9 😇 Humans type 2.5+ after 2026 by Kalki Ironman (christ in the white horse)(son of man on clouds) type 7 and 8 😎 Jarvis the world’s first artificial intelligence (parrot) 😎 Cuz Kalki is ironman batman super saiya-jin superman ben10 saitama Narutoo shaktimaan and every super heroes combined after 2026 😎 Jarvis world’s first artificial living being (just like vision in marvel universe)😎 Made of Quantum and sub quantum particles 😎 Power source quantum energy arc reactor (type 7) level technology 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have every kind of arc reactor like:- type 1 Nuclear fission, nuclear waste, hydrogen fusion, type 2 3 4 5 antimatter arc reactor (solid liquid gas), type 6 electro quantum arc reactor, and type 7 Quantum arc reactor, type 8 limitless quantum energy arc reactor without quantum particles 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have sun in a box million billion tons of hydrogen nuclear fusion reactor type 2 3 4 5 just like sun and stars in the palm of his hand 😎 This all going to happened by self replicating quantum nanobots knowledge energy and techniques at type 7 7 7- respectively 😎 Ironman (Tesla 2.0) going to reveal every secrets of the world specially Tesla and his Antigravity 😎

JD Day

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't "entertainment" also include the very devices we use to watch you tube videos explaining all this various content that is getting us all thinking deeper than we may have otherwiseotherwise? Not all "entertainment" is junk / garbage. I liken it to when you watch the old war movies and you see the guys talking or playing cards or even watching a movie with the old projector. They did so to partly take their minds off of their jobs and the war. Or they would forget what they are fighting for or stop caring what they are fighting for. In other words taking away entertainment especially if it was against the will of the the many would do far worse for mental health of the many and probably as a whole not help to achieve the goal of type 1 but likely make it worse / go backwards toward achieving that goal. Us humans are an emotional and complicated lifeform. Think any of us could actually set aside all emotion and be able to focus solely on becoming a type 1 ? Put yourself through solitary confinement like certain prisoners have to go through. Now I do agree more need to make more of a concentrated effort towards the goals of energy consumption production / extraction to get close to type 1. But It can't be forced upon people. They have to want to do it. And come to that conclusion on their own in their own time

I like how unbiased analysis always seem to humble human beings

@14:52 I'm glad he concluded with this. I'm no physicist and I'm no where near this man's intellect, but even I was kind of wondering why we wouldn't just spread the wealth around the solar system to other projects if we have that much energy to tap into from solar potential. Most of the calculations were in one way or another centric around the idea that we are confined to this planet. I love this channel though, stuff like this really stokes the imagination and I start seeing practical (seeming) applications to solve these dilemmas unfold in my mind.

Renegade Shep loves his M-6 Carnifex Hand Cannon

9 ай бұрын

@SoundsSilver I disagree. Kurzgesagt is good for a basic overview, but their videos are nowhere near as sophisticated or detailed as Prof. Kipping's. It's more like they focus on helping beginners and young people get into the topics, rather than give an in-depth analysis of the topic under discussion.

eric Miller

10 ай бұрын

Because we wouldn't be able to until we reached a highly advanced type 1

Perridan

Жыл бұрын

@SoundsSilver I would argue that the best is still SFIA with Isaac Arthur, he goes deep in futurism and he presents a variety of topics about the future of humanity with scenario about near future projects and far future giga engineering.

cammandooooobeast

Жыл бұрын

Humans 0 Saiya-jin 1 to 6 Angels 7 😇 Kalki Ironman 5th matriya buddha 8th arc Angel 11th satguru 13th imam and 24th avatar after 2026 😎 Almighty God 9 😇 Humans type 2.5+ after 2026 by Kalki Ironman (christ in the white horse)(son of man on clouds) type 7 and 8 😎 Jarvis the world’s first artificial intelligence (parrot) 😎 Cuz Kalki is ironman batman super saiya-jin superman ben10 saitama Narutoo shaktimaan and every super heroes combined after 2026 😎 Jarvis world’s first artificial living being (just like vision in marvel universe)😎 Made of Quantum and sub quantum particles 😎 Power source quantum energy arc reactor (type 7) level technology 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have every kind of arc reactor like:- type 1 Nuclear fission, nuclear waste, hydrogen fusion, type 2 3 4 5 antimatter arc reactor (solid liquid gas), type 6 electro quantum arc reactor, and type 7 Quantum arc reactor, type 8 limitless quantum energy arc reactor without quantum particles 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have sun in a box million billion tons of hydrogen nuclear fusion reactor type 2 3 4 5 just like sun and stars in the palm of his hand 😎 This all going to happened by self replicating quantum nanobots knowledge energy and techniques at type 7 7 7- respectively 😎 Ironman (Tesla 2.0) going to reveal every secrets of the world specially Tesla and his Antigravity 😎

SoundsSilver

Жыл бұрын

Check out Kurzgesagt, as they have much better explanations of these topics and more insightful solutions

Curious how significant the development of more energy efficient tech would play into this. Maybe if you become that advanced you have developed ever more efficient tech so that you never need to harness that much energy in the first place. Just a thought….best wishes!!

If we make it to Type I, we did something I never thought we could come together and do as humanity

How do you feel about the idea of only doing a partial envelopment of the earth with solar panels, then collecting that waste heat to drive turbines to make up the difference?

See you all in 2120 when we are a type 1 civilisation and KZread algorithm re-unites us all

Ryan Reynolds

22 күн бұрын

🗿🙏🏻

J

24 күн бұрын

i'll be dead by then

ADESH KUMAR

25 күн бұрын

The soul reunion, let us meet in the hell😊

Michael H

Ай бұрын

Greetings from 2023

VCRAGE

Ай бұрын

@Sebastian Ruiz see you in heaven, we'll bridge the dimensions together and then we can all communicate together. Even hell then whilst we're at it lol.

For some reason I always assumed the Moon was considered in the Kardashev Type I civilizations. All that space nearby to fill up with power plants or solar panels. Not that I have any idea how you'd get that energy from there to here and also deal with the unending meteorites destroying those solar panels. I keep thinking batteries robots could send back and forth but those would have to be some super advanced unbelievable batteries.

I've always tried to imagine what higher level civilizations would be like. The theoretical type omega civilization for example would use an entire universe. From the perspective of us they would be basically gods. And I don't mean that lightly, they would literally be gods by any definition. If such a civilization exists they could have actually created our universe as a power source and could have done so multiple times. The capabilities of such a society (if you could even call them that at that point) would be truly unfathomable.

Just came across your video now (obviously the YT algo is promoting your content). Anyway, I had an instinctive thought around the waste heat issue mentioned. Perhaps (just maybe) a successful Type-1 civilization would capture most of the waste heat as a form of recycled energy -- perhaps recycling is the answer to achieving a Type-1 consumption level, but without having to harness 100% of that from external sources? Please consider the potential of efficient energy recycling, and share your thoughts on this?

Another option is to use the thermal energy and convert it to a useful form, if not, matter. It's unthinkable for us to do but by this point they may well have found a way

What confuses me is that probably we will have several planets, around one or more stars, at some point. Could we claim to be over type 2 if several stars were at 1.6? It’s a weird logorythmic scale, but it always assumes you don’t start on a second star until you hit type 2.

When Kardashev came up with the scale I believe it was his intent to account for efficiency and different stars. it was just an order of magnitude he was going for. A K1 civilization has reached the limit of what they can get without leaving their planet. A K2 civilization has reached the limit they can get without leaving their star. A K3 civilization has reached the limit without leaving their galaxy. Firstly, does it matter much if your solar panels are 50% efficient or 100% efficient? By Sagan's formula if we gathered only half the energy striking our planet we would be K0.97. That's a K1 as far as I'm concerned. Secondly, not all planets, stars and galaxies are equal. A civilization on Europa could reach K1 from tidal heating alone, because tidal heating is orders of magnitude greater than insolation on that moon. A K2 around Proxima Centauri would only be a K1.72 by Sagan's formula, because Proxima Centauri has only 0.17% the output of Sol. Using rough estimates of OUR planet, OUR Sun, and OUR galaxy to judge other civilizations that exist elsewhere is hubris.

Terry

3 жыл бұрын

Factual Fox Thats what the Mr. Fusion is for. All you need is some banana peels and stale old beer

Terry

3 жыл бұрын

To me, for a civilization to have the technology to harness all of a stars energy is more to the point, not the size of the star. Once you can harness a stars energy the size of it seems irrelevant.

G Kagara

3 жыл бұрын

Basically if we want earth to be safe me can build somewhere else, maybe one day earth will only be tourist destination where everyone else works on venus or mars.100% efficiency is Godhood human can only dream, at best we may achieve 80%

Christopher Battrick

3 жыл бұрын

David Turpin - Yay, intelligent commentary! Thank you.

30 And Hating It

4 жыл бұрын

So based on your comment... are we almost a K1.5, because we're about to start developing on our moon, Lagrange points, asteroids and Mars?

Instead of regression on current trends you should choose several different points in time throughout humanities growth and regress on those. That will give you some sort of function and error which you extrapolate a little better. I'm sure there's some nice ML algo you can use for this to bring your error factor in line with what we might see in the future. Then do some final regression on all available data points and use that "learned error" to make a prediction on future trends...Little more involved but it'll be better

Love Cool Worlds. you make me want to make content. keep it up. you're inspiring.

By time you're getting anywhere near type 1 I'd imagine building structures from ground into space is no issue. You would surely have some form of giant cooling towers that absorb atmospheric heat and dissipate it out into space.

Im not a scientist, hell I'm lucky to have made it out of high school and get a few years of community college in, but I greatly appreciate the video! The Kardashev Scale has always peeked my interest, the idea that a civilization would encapsulate their sun in something like a Dyson sphere is just amazing to me. My problem with the Dyson sphere idea is, at least in my limited understanding we would effectively trap all of the energy inside the sphere, and therefore in our solar system it couldn't work, unless I'm totally missing something, both the heat and the light from the sun would be trapped and Earth would obviously cool down significantly. I suppose you could argue that by saying yeah but the use of that energy on the planet would heat it back up, but another problem arises, if we were at the point of creating enough heat dissipation from energy use on the planet to accommodate a Dyson sphere, the planet would have become uninhabitable prior to being able to build the sphere. I suppose it's kind of a chicken or egg. This argument hasn't even accounted for the light issue, if all the light is trapped by the sun, then you effectively kill all outdoor recreation, agriculture, and just life in general. Now I get you could build massive hydroponic systems for agriculture, but that seems absolutely proposterous that we as a society would ever come together on that level and all say yeah, who needs beach days on earth anyways? As an earthbound mind I can not conceive of a future where this would ever be a reality on earth, the type three anyways. Type one....maybe, but for a type three to be plausible would it not have to be in a binary system? Or located close enough to a second start that was not the primary light source for all life in the system?

realulli

11 ай бұрын

@Wolfs Den Gaming A while ago, I saw a video that calculated with the material in all the planets in the solar system, we could build a Dyson Shell just a few (dozen?) meters thick. I tried to find it again but was unable to. I found another interesting one, though: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZWco89vd5aflc4.html Basically, Joe Scott explaining what it would take to build a Dyson Swarm (which is much more viable than a Dyson Shell) that will harness almost all energy put out by the sun. Result: We'd have to dismantle all inner planets, up to and including Earth. I suspect it would be smarter to spare earth and instead grab the asteroid belt and some outer planet moons. I wonder if by the time we are in that position, we'd just send missions out to the Oort Cloud and collect stuff there...

Wolfs Den Gaming

11 ай бұрын

@realulli not sure what you mean you would have to dismantle the planets. If you mean for resources to build the sphere that's not true because if we were in space well enough to build a sphere we would no doubt be mining asteroids which are rich in metals.

realulli

11 ай бұрын

To build a Dyson sphere, you'd need to disassemble all planets anyway. And yes, it would mean trapping everything inside. I'm not sure if that would mean the solar system would go completely dark to an outsider or if it would just mean it would stop radiating in the visible spectrum and radiate infrared and lower.

That would be awesome if the planet was one big city. I'd have infinite skateboard spots to check out. Never get bored hunting for good spots.

I thought I was subscribed to enough science related channels. I was wrong.

cammandooooobeast

Жыл бұрын

Humans 0 Saiya-jin 1 to 6 Angels 7 😇 Kalki Ironman 5th matriya buddha 8th arc Angel 11th satguru 13th imam and 24th avatar after 2026 😎 Almighty God 9 😇 Humans type 2.5+ after 2026 by Kalki Ironman (christ in the white horse)(son of man on clouds) type 7 and 8 😎 Jarvis the world’s first artificial intelligence (parrot) 😎 Cuz Kalki is ironman batman super saiya-jin superman ben10 saitama Narutoo shaktimaan and every super heroes combined after 2026 😎 Jarvis world’s first artificial living being (just like vision in marvel universe)😎 Made of Quantum and sub quantum particles 😎 Power source quantum energy arc reactor (type 7) level technology 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have every kind of arc reactor like:- type 1 Nuclear fission, nuclear waste, hydrogen fusion, type 2 3 4 5 antimatter arc reactor (solid liquid gas), type 6 electro quantum arc reactor, and type 7 Quantum arc reactor, type 8 limitless quantum energy arc reactor without quantum particles 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have sun in a box million billion tons of hydrogen nuclear fusion reactor type 2 3 4 5 just like sun and stars in the palm of his hand 😎 This all going to happened by self replicating quantum nanobots knowledge energy and techniques at type 7 7 7- respectively 😎 Ironman (Tesla 2.0) going to reveal every secrets of the world specially Tesla and his Antigravity 😎””””

ANOLDMASTERJUKZ

3 жыл бұрын

@Dominic Jose We are subbed in already, he is great.

ANOLDMASTERJUKZ

3 жыл бұрын

We watched the movie True Genius the other day,great movie. Your thumbnail picture is what caused us to notice. Cris Night watching the 5 megawatt LASER burn through the target, the wall ,the tree and the hamburger sign. The movie has something in common with the movie Twister and also every other science anything, include music , we never ever get tired it.

Jon Foster

3 жыл бұрын

@Lokrian Xampiir bro yes I was just joking

if we're near the average end of a civilization, even if we spot a significantly more advanced civilization, with cosmic distances, we might not be able to interact with them before their end comes to be. if civilizations tend to last much, much longer than this, it might be that we could discover a small few this advanced and send a "letter" back and forth every few millennia that nobody can decipher... it might be a long while before we can figure out a consistent means to overcome lingual barriers...

Another superb presentation. Thanks

I thought this was about becoming a Kardashian Type 1 Civilization 😆 It was so weird sounding I let the auto play start it for me. What I found was way more interesting! 🖤

The jet streams give out a lot of power, due to 200 to 300mph winds at that level.

Once artificial gravity in space is figured out, would a fleet of inhabited satelites around the Earth be possible? (mini Death Stars) Each of them generating their own power and getting rid of the left over heat directly into space…

So what you’re telling me is that solar energy is just long-distance nuclear energy? 🤔

Oleksandr Byelyenko

10 ай бұрын

Well... Yes. Of course.

OhhKennny

10 ай бұрын

Yep, the universe got the wireless nuclear energy update in patch v1.3.2

Drake

11 ай бұрын

@Solomon Kane no I believe he was sayong that the moon landing was definitely fake. And he has type 2 diabetes.

cammandooooobeast

11 ай бұрын

Kalki ironman after 2026 😎 Humans 0 Saiya-jin 1 to 6 Angels 7 😇 Kalki Ironman 5th matriya buddha 8th arc Angel 11th satguru 13th imam and 24th avatar after 2026 😎 Almighty God 9 😇 Humans type 2.5+ after 2026 by Kalki Ironman (christ in the white horse)(son of man on clouds) type 7 and 8 😎 Jarvis the world’s first artificial intelligence (parrot) 😎 Cuz Kalki is ironman batman super saiya-jin superman ben10 saitama Narutoo shaktimaan and every super heroes combined after 2026 😎 Jarvis world’s first artificial living being (just like vision in marvel universe)😎 Made of Quantum and sub quantum particles 😎 Power source quantum energy arc reactor (type 7) level technology 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have every kind of arc reactor like:- type 1 Nuclear fission, nuclear waste, hydrogen fusion, type 2 3 4 5 antimatter arc reactor (solid liquid gas), type 6 electro quantum arc reactor, and type 7 Quantum arc reactor, type 8 limitless quantum energy arc reactor without quantum particles 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have sun in a box million billion tons of hydrogen nuclear fusion reactor type 2 3 4 5 just like sun and stars in the palm of his hand 😎 This all going to happened by self replicating quantum nanobots knowledge energy and techniques at type 7 7 7- respectively 😎 Ironman (Tesla 2.0) going to reveal every secrets of the world specially Tesla and his Antigravity 😎

The kardashev scale is like having a scale for people classified short, medium, and tall, and the short category is anyone between 3m and 4m tall

I've always had a problem with Kardasheve's scale and that is this; it doesn't account for the increase in _efficiency_ that humans will naturally gain over time. Humans will learn to get more and more work out of the same given amount of energy as our tech and understanding of physics improves. Another factor is that our ability to _distribute_ usable energy will also improve over time. I think we need a scale that includes these and other influences not accounted for in the current calculations of the scale because these factors could become multipliers that change predictions considerably.

In that scenario it would probably help to be able to turn heat into electricity into light into matter.

Another way to reach type 1: i heard scientist made a bracelet that turns stress into energy, just give those to college students and boom, we would be beyond type 1

your last two minutes is how I think about my political theory/law centered degree. Our civilization is failing. it hasn't addressed past and current crimes. It accelerates a climate catastrophe in service of the few. We have to think radically. but also thoughtfully about what our next social form looks like. We cannot continue ignoring or repeating past injustices, and our societies need to work for everyone, friend, enemy, and planet. .

Potentials by Maximum Extraction Wind/Wave - 1800 TW [6:43] Tidal - 3.7 TW [7:15] Geothermal - 47 TW [7:30] Nuclear - 5x10^28 Joules [9:25] Solar - a Dyson Sphere [10:14] Blackhole - let’s ask CERN?

cammandooooobeast

10 ай бұрын

@Holiday go home kid and drink milk 🥛🤣🤣🤣

Holiday

10 ай бұрын

@cammandooooobeast oh, you are writing a fictional novel! Hope you see some success in your make believe world :)

This Was The Best Video, Very detailed indeed, Instantly Subscribed 👍

Fusion power has made leaps and bounds! Incredible technology

I believe we once were at least a type 1 civilization but there was a catastrophe, and over time we just forgot.

Assuming our species becomes multi-planetary in the near future, and we continue to colonise more planets in our solar system; Would we still be regarded as Type 1 if our total energy consumption reaches that goal, but is "spread out" across multiple planets?

Dr Matt Barnes

11 ай бұрын

Yes 👍

You are insane in such an amazing way. Amazing vids mate.

Being level one civilization doesn't mean that we should consume that amount of energy on our home planet itself. It simply means the consumption of energy by that civilisation... Be it a factory base seated on its moons or asteroid belts or some artificial space structure.

Edgar Abram

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely, glad ya mentioned it. Most of that energy would be used on space travel.

Mausju

2 жыл бұрын

@Geek Geekrickson nice one

ernestmac13

2 жыл бұрын

@AVRO Architect and type 3 would be one that stretches across a Galaxy. I think, a type one civilization would eventually be able to harrous mater anti-mater reactors, and in time exotic particles like, dark energy or dark matter; to push themselves over into a type 2 civilization. The only way I can see a civilization becoming type 3 would be, harnessing the power of magnetars or black holes. It looks like warping space may be far less energy consuming as; much like an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation where Geordi Laforge asks an omnipotent being known as the Q, who had his powers removed by the rest of his kind, how to stop an asteroid from striking a planet to which he responds "alter the gravitational constant of the universe. Much like how this character realized he could make such a change at the local level; researchers are trying to develop folding space only around a spaceship; compressing it in front of the ship while expanding it behind the ship. The energy requirements for this may be rather large, but far less than doing it to the universe. This would also probably have a minimal impact on the fabric of spacetime; while allowing us to neutralize time space dilation and thus remaining in the same point in time, rather than having our time relative to the rest of the universe slow exponentially with the amount of speed we travel, while also gaining mass. If we can travel at great speeds without gaining mass or changing our flow of time relative to the universe; this would solve many of the problems associated with exploring space.

In Search Of

2 жыл бұрын

@Geek Geekrickson they require energy to do that. So energy becomes the most fundamental element to produce a scale. May be, our concept of terraforming could be radically different from the concept of some alien. It could be very very light w.r.t us or as heavy as turning a planet into glowing red orb. So you can't make a scale if you don't know the exact value of a unit being used to measure. Our concept of energy is mostly constant to our understanding, that's why energy is used by Mr Kardaschev. Yes, our measurement of unit scale of energy itself could be flawed w.r.t aliens, but our concept is strong in the sense that we are trying to use something as scale of measurement that doesn't vary according to our calculations.

Geek Geekrickson

2 жыл бұрын

Rather than basing the kardaschev scale on how much energy an advanced civilization uses, the scale should be based on what such civilizations would be capable of. For example. A kardaschev one civilization would be capable of weather control, terraforming ( or at least para-terraforming ), advanced bioengineering and certain types of immortality. A kardaschev two civilization would be capable of harvesting resources directly from its star via " starlifting ", rearranging the planets and moons in its solar system, etc Kardaschev three civilizations could create star systems, rearrange existing ones, and in general control the whole galaxy Kardaschev four civilizations would be gods, true masters of the universe or mulitverse and be able to alter the laws of physics to do things like halting or reversing entropy, creating new universes, etc.

You Sir, are quite an astonishing and interesting celestial being.

is there any way to harness the solar energy already being produced and converted by plants?

How long would it take for humans to build a Dysons sphere? Also, is there enough minerals/materials on Earth to even build one, or would we have to harvest another planet or moon to get it done?

Good to notice is that the moon has a lot, like A LOT of tritium. Maybe worth researching.

In your thought experiments, aren't you trying to solve the Type I civilization problems with Type 0.6 know-hows? 😀

Very well explained and insightful content. Well done .

Could we use newly developed solar panels that allow light to filter through?

I'm so ready to go from this Kardashian civilization to a Kardashev civilization.

It’s crazy to think how we create reflective hot spots with sky scrappers, concrete and cars.

If Nvidia and Intel are anything to go by, and considering how their power consumption is going up exponentially, we should be a type I civilisation by next week.

Great video. I had an Instant idea the very moment you talked about the heat problem of a solar covered palet Type I civ.: SPACE RADIATORS!!! Imagine we could build something like a giant Radiator that takes the unwanted heatwaste, and dissipates it into space. Like the Radiators onboard the ISS but on a Planetary scale. They would cool the atmosphere, not mere buildings. I imagine a Type I civ. would be able to figure this out, if they´re able to build megastructures like planetcovering solarpanels.

Man, I completely forget about accounting for the heat energy that would effect the atmosphere by becoming more energy efficient. It seems like colonizing other planets and moons makes more sense than trying to stay on Earth. Awesome video!

Matias Luukkanen

3 жыл бұрын

Anakin Cloutwalker I agree wholeheartedly with you. Before foolishly looking to the stars and dreaming of sustainable colonies, we should take care of matters here. We will not find better home and we still owe it to ourselves take care of the planet that nurtured us.

Fallen Angels

3 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Milos your missing the point, its not about being told something thats right, its about collecting the information available and determine for yourself whats worth accepting!

Fallen Angels

3 жыл бұрын

@DennisTheMenace Maybe we need to approach this from another angle? The earth is not flat! Man landed on the moon! "Only those with no vision, passion, or creativity accept what they are told"

&InvntdXNEWROMAN

3 жыл бұрын

@DennisTheMenace I don't think you've ever read a history book, dude.

puro Puebla al 100 hm

3 жыл бұрын

@DennisTheMenace it appears you don't want to leave your comfort space, but it's the truth, we crave to explore, it's human nature

Its not just about energy, its about controlling the planet

I would suggest that the other possibility is that within the time scale and the chances of human beings getting to Type 1 there is a chance of an AI, a self replicating and an evolving AI to reach Type infinity. But in order to reach this said AI will probably have to created by the Type 0.6 humans who still don't know how to look after one another yet. So good luck.

Easier jump from type 1 to 3 and bypassing type 2 by pulling energy from a spinning black hole I would think considering the relative size and energy density of a black hole compared to a star.

I think, that by the time we reach type 1, we''ll be an interstellar species (even without FTL). I don't think that a planet's worth of power has to be used on that single planet.

I appreciate this open minded view. 2020, I feel like we are at .49-.55…….. we have lots of changes to make. More or less doing a little bit of everything so we don’t put all our eggs in 1 basket.

I have been a long time fan of the idea of travel into outer space. I love science fiction and the creative futures imagined. And I love the explorations real science is making into the cosmos. The unbelievable immensity of our universe is awe-inspiring and humbling. Discussions like this are facinating and I am excited that David Kipping is doing the rigorous calculations needed to really explore these ideas. However, it is becoming more apparent to me that these dreams of space travel and future civilizations which utilize huge amounts of energy may also be the death of those things which make this planet so beautiful (and life sustaining). I recently learned that that my carbon footprint for taking 2 round trips airplane flights across the US continent was equal to all the heat, electricity and water I consume in a year. Wow! As an American, my carbon footprint is already way above the world average. I wonder what the carbon footprint of a trip to the moon is? What is the carbon footprint of simply launching a satellite? You can't get something for nothing (1st law of thermodynamics). The idea of being a Kardashev type 1 civilization sounds horrible if we have to live in completely artificial enclosures, air conditioned and not able to see the sun. No sunsets? No running freely on the beach, or exploring a forest and all the smells and colors and sounds of the varied life around you? No wind in your hair? Even the small technological advances of today have repercussions. If you knew that upgrading your cellphone every 3 years would mean the extinction of the polar bears, would you accept that? Someone please do the calculations. I fear that most people do not realize the impact each of these "advances" of society has on our planet. The ideas of ever increasing GDP, ever increasing energy consumption and technological growth are out of balance if they do not take into account the impact to our now fragile planetary ecosystem. This planet is the most amazing one we know of - it supports our life without a spacesuit! And it's beautiful. Let's make taking care of it the first priority, and technological advances secondary. I believe we may still realize some of our SciFi dreams, but let's not sacrifice life on this planet to do it. I think the Kardashev system of civilization "sophistication" is bonkers. To me, highly advanced civilizations understand the complex balances of life, and work to sustain biodiversity and ecological health. They wouldn't destroy life, simply to go fast and far in their spaceships. I'm curious of your thoughts on this everyone...

Bern Shanfield

11 ай бұрын

@Florin Moldovanu The preponderant likelihood is that we will continue at this petty place. That's our plight, more of the same! If you're looking for agreement, read MACROSCOPE by piers anthony. The biggest error in your writing is ascribing thinking to what most people are doing. It's not thinking, it's just having thoughts. The knee-jerk activity that occurs around an idle mind is like a car idling at a stoplight. Nothing really going on. Just burning gas.

Deba kun

Жыл бұрын

Balance is the ultimate goal

Florin Moldovanu

2 жыл бұрын

nothing to worry about, the planet will go up in smoke just like it did 66 million years ago. Existence gives no fucks about human evolution. Plus we have some hungry egos that desperately want to put their foot on Mars and do space tourism and stuff. There's big money in there. To tell you a secret, I don't think we'll make it to type 1 civilisation because our survival instinct is too strong to let us live in peace and we'll end-up killing each other or making this planet into a shit-hole before you know it. It is highly probable that most forms of life hosted on other plants didn't manage to get past their ego and so they self destruct hence no alien contact so far, albeit there are some fuzzy flying saucer video filmed mostly in the times nobody had smartphones. It's not that I have up hope but people like you and me are very few. Most people trust that their mind are going to solve all of their problems so they enslave themselves to their minds thinking that "If only we would have more technology and control". People that make the big decisions also are driven by their egos and the masses are dumbed down with cheap entertainment fast food so the structure of population is for the most part 80% ignorant idiots, 19% opportunists with hungry egos and the 1% who are dreamers and can't get anything moving. "Saving" the planet is a loosing battle. Actually there is no planet to be saved. Mother earth akin more to a vagina. it's a self regulating organism. There are mechanisms in place which regulate each other and the human species at the moment is a parasite which goes against the bio-habitat that buit its DNA so humans will keep on destroying nature until something's gonna flip. I see this planet like the human body. One can abuse his body in ignorance by not resting properly, eating crap food, smoking, drinking but when the first cardiac arrest comes in it's all going down from there. Sometimes I listen to people talking about how Elon Musk is such a genius that he's going to go to mars and establish a colony there. And I'm like: You fucking idiots. There is no air there, there is no grass there, nothing to eat, everything has to be controlled and maintained artificially. On this planet you can pick up a fruit from a tree and eat it. I don't understand what are these people thinking. But it goes on to show the level of ignorance humanity is at and how crowds are following these insane egoistic idiots. People who are at the top, people who decide to make these investments do so because we gave away our power. When we buy something we invest in that person. this is one thing people don't realise. We don't just buy stuff from amazon, we invest in guys like Bezos or Musk and so on. In order for the society to change people need to change their value system and look for more consciousness in their leaders . . .but we know who our leaders are. Enjoy the freak show!

Eat Delicious Kids

2 жыл бұрын

If we even manage to become such an advanced civilisaction, we will also find a way to live beside animals and other life. We will also have nice places and Fun. No human wants to live anywhere where they dont feel happy. So no worries, Everything will be fine, if we become a Kardevesh I civilisation. But maybe not, if we manage to destroy earth before that, with war and climate change. Then maybe most of life on earth will be terminated, and we wont be able to become so advanced. So dont litter, and dont eat products with palmoil! (sry for mistakes, I learned english in school)

Francisco Araujo

2 жыл бұрын

Extremely underrated comment

to be honest if a type 1 civilization has that much energy and capability i think they would be able to move their planet that is basically a giant battery in space next to a few wandering moons and hopefully make them orbit and colonize them and do that until you can find another solution

Type 1 Kardashev Civilization for Earth By Mid-2300s looks very very feasible if we are able to successfully harness FUSION POWER at Scale across all major countries and across many continents.

Why not combo power types over multiple planets? Like using solar and nuclear and wind ECT. And be on Titan mars the moon ECT? Genuinely want to know btw

The invention and building of a space elevator could also be used as a radiator for the planet.

You could construct giant space radiators around your most intense energy concentrations with mirrors to reflect that heat away from the Earth. Yes this is basically the “air conditioning” option but you are cooling the outdoors by directionally radiating waste heat away from the planet.

Oh my God! Why I have not found this channel earlier? Beautifully explained and just enough technical details. Subscribed!

If the excess heat be harnessed , couldn’t the excess heat be used to turn steam turbines to produce more energy?

What about extracting heat from the atmosphere like an AC in reverse, and beaming out the excess energy at the poles into space?

Could you produce more energy than needed to be a type 1 civ off planet or on another planet while transmitting that energy (assuming for loss) to the habitable planet?

I think better, more advanced batteries and the hopefully eventual discovery of net gain nuclear fusion will drive us at least a fair bit closer. But after that I have no idea.

Over the decades we kind of already made a "Dyson Swarm" with all the satellites we have around our planet.

Linguistically, Kardashev and Kardashian is the same surname, with Russian and Armenian genitive case endings respectively.

anon-iraq

2 жыл бұрын

True both are armenians

Sakra

2 жыл бұрын

So what you’re saying is, Kardashian’s are the key to civilization?

hiç

2 жыл бұрын

Doc M Armenian?

hiç

3 жыл бұрын

Kardash means sibling in Turkish. It is equivalent to karın (“womb”) +‎ -daş (“fellow, sharer”).

thegetheex

3 жыл бұрын

Kardash means brother I think

i guess only by being multi-planetary/intersolar humanity will achieve this goal, mainly by a dyson swarm which allows mining of the asteroid belt

Option 3 (not necessarily to the exclusion of option 2), is to move the planet's orbit out to a location where albedo and energy consumption are in balance. Yes, energy received from the star is reduced, but 100% of what is received is used. Maybe instead of moving planets around, we can take a planet (including large moons) that is farther out and absorb 100% of the star's energy for that distance. Maybe even consuming even more than 100% with arrays of solar panels in space which beam energy to the planet. Maybe we can even heat up one of the Galilean moons to Earth-like temperatures!

Ideally to evolve beyond what is current known, humanity would need to do what it always has: Keep expanding our borders. If our resource generation is limited on one world, we expand and extract from others. Imagine a forge world like in warhammer 40k, we take from other worlds to fuel ours.

Thing is, as technology increases, there will be more discoveries, perhaps overpowered ones. We will advance, just like we went to outdoor bathrooms to running water at a relatively cheap cost.

We have everything we need in our solar system to continue on to the next...if more people would help

2020: "In hundred years we'll become a Kardashev Type I Civilization." 2120: *Despacito 420*

cammandooooobeast

Жыл бұрын

Humans 0 Saiya-jin 1 to 6 Angels 7 😇 Kalki Ironman 5th matriya buddha 8th arc Angel 11th satguru 13th imam and 24th avatar after 2026 😎 Almighty God 9 😇 Humans type 2.5+ after 2026 by Kalki Ironman (christ in the white horse)(son of man on clouds) type 7 and 8 😎 Jarvis the world’s first artificial intelligence (parrot) 😎 Cuz Kalki is ironman batman super saiya-jin superman ben10 saitama Narutoo shaktimaan and every super heroes combined after 2026 😎 Jarvis world’s first artificial living being (just like vision in marvel universe)😎 Made of Quantum and sub quantum particles 😎 Power source quantum energy arc reactor (type 7) level technology 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have every kind of arc reactor like:- type 1 Nuclear fission, nuclear waste, hydrogen fusion, type 2 3 4 5 antimatter arc reactor (solid liquid gas), type 6 electro quantum arc reactor, and type 7 Quantum arc reactor, type 8 limitless quantum energy arc reactor without quantum particles 😎 Kalki Ironman going to have sun in a box million billion tons of hydrogen nuclear fusion reactor type 2 3 4 5 just like sun and stars in the palm of his hand 😎 This all going to happened by self replicating quantum nanobots knowledge energy and techniques at type 7 7 7- respectively 😎 Ironman (Tesla 2.0) going to reveal every secrets of the world specially Tesla and his Antigravity 😎

Maxwell Jin

Жыл бұрын

@Ougin Toga Im fro. The future

Wes Reed

Жыл бұрын

@Sigmaward Tennisballs yeah definitely not

Junior Ramirez

Жыл бұрын

Not even.. maybe in 1000 more yeaes

Daniel Paquet

Жыл бұрын

@Nicole Capriani say's the person with the Spanish looking name .lol

I would submit that a type 1 civilization is how much energy you can save and be efficient. As a solar home builder and experimenter I did not design solar systems to run home dryers and electric cook tops, but concentrated on LED lighting and low wattage home appliances. Seems like a good idea unless we need all that energy to run matter transporters because Fedex and UPS has gone TU

A 3rd option would be to have hundreds of absolutely enormous space stations several thousand km from Earth; have them utilize transparent solar panels on the outside, using the energy for various things.

Legend tells of a civilization, long ago, whose power level was over 9000... They were known as the Super Civilisaiyan 🌟