"Make the game hard as fuck and dumb so we can make money off the cheat code book." - MTVermin

@jsmith5212

7 жыл бұрын

MTVermin had nothing to do with this game

@nightshademagia

7 жыл бұрын

+J Smith It's a play on MTV, the company who made the game

@Brandizzleizzle

7 жыл бұрын

J Smith and MTVermin isn't a real thing.

@d00kiebird

7 жыл бұрын

It was published by Viacom (which owns MTV). Don't know if MTV had any influence.

@timf7413

7 жыл бұрын

IMHO it is seriously one of the hardest and most poorly designed games of the 16 bit era.

I gotta say it's nice to see a J&MM episode which doubles as the thought process behind an AVGN episode.

@ClassySaia

7 жыл бұрын

I know right! They should do this more often. LOL

@ClassySaia

7 жыл бұрын

voteZDLR Look at it as a AVGN episode prequel so to speak. xD

@1dayago843

7 жыл бұрын

The last words James said even became the Macguffin of the AVGN episode.

@ClassySaia

7 жыл бұрын

Crazy Luigi Oh yeah! You are right. I'm going to go watch those now thank you.

@_PuppetMaster86

5 жыл бұрын

So much J&MM episodes that shouldve been made into Nerd episodes.

Not sure why the cheater's guide tells you to eat the burger right away. You start losing health as soon as you eat it.

@erika_fuzzbottom

7 жыл бұрын

Crappy guide for a crappy game.

@ndknight

7 жыл бұрын

It's so you get sick and have to go to the hospital, it grants you access to the doctor's room which has the key to the best ending in the game.

@Burning_Typhoon

7 жыл бұрын

I always save that burger for when I know I'm going to the hospital next. Makes no sense to eat the burger until you're ready to leave the stage. There's also no reason to specifically eat it with butt-head.

@Th1rt3eNoriginals

7 жыл бұрын

you have to eat the burger then right away go to the hospital, its not that bad

@Burning_Typhoon

7 жыл бұрын

Th1rt3eNoriginals You're losing health the entire time you're at burger world. And behind the ordering menu on the right of the door, is health. And behind the stage exit, behind burger world, is another.

I love how you can see the rage and frustration building up in James, this must be how a Nerd episode is born! What a wonderful thing!

@bluearmy893

7 жыл бұрын

Kind of a behind the scenes in a way

@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962

3 жыл бұрын

Some of them do, but some of them are just a product of the internet rather than the stuff being that legit out of qustion and oppinion awfull - like some early AVGN.... or like many new AVGN -This game was legit that sucky however

I love both AVGN and James and Mike Mondays

@cornholio1230

7 жыл бұрын

Pull my finger heheh

@rubenrodriguez3252

7 жыл бұрын

It's Sunday for me

@robokill387

7 жыл бұрын

+Pojechany1994 it's completely chronological, do you know what that word means?

@MikeMintTV

7 жыл бұрын

me too. always a pleasant surprise (although it's every Monday ahaha i just forget) when I see the video :)

@alan0353

7 жыл бұрын

Me too as well as board james

My frustration levels as a kid were at maximum when playing this game.

I seems like in the AVGN episode, people who had never seen Beavis and Butthead before didn't get the joke that James was emulating their humor style. That's why many people didn't like it, they didn't get the joke.

@Handsomistic1

7 жыл бұрын

I watched the show so I got it.

@TalkSickMass

7 жыл бұрын

I was more impressed by the writing when the Nerd uses unique non-profane descriptions

@davegsux

7 жыл бұрын

It doesn't get any more 90's than this xD

@JustWastingMyTimeGaming

7 жыл бұрын

Yea but they really did think the game was bad sooo wtf are you talking about?

7 жыл бұрын

I got its humor and I liked the episode a lot!

In a toilet somewhere there is a clue about the code for the door

@Nobunaga1983

7 жыл бұрын

+JoannaRice same place where Mario came from tho

@okarowarrior

7 жыл бұрын

same place where last avgn videos came from.

@Beelze_Bubbles

7 жыл бұрын

+David Steck Mario is a plumber so that makes sense

@tubesami

7 жыл бұрын

"Ken sent me"

@haydensiska8454

7 жыл бұрын

tubesami "Come on in!" Just don't block the tv.

Don Knotts throwing wild hay-makers gets me every time

I actually really like this game; it's one of my favorites on the Genesis. I had fun figuring it out, though it is insanely harder with two people, since in one player mode you pretty much have two life bars. Me and my friend beat it once co-op. The confusion and frustration anyone suffers from this game is reasonable, it's not a very clear cut or well-designed game, despite really looking like the show and being a pretty diverse scavenger hunt, and once you've figured out the formula and get both endings (yeah, there's two endings to this game), there's not really much of an incentive to play it again..

"We're sick" nearly each time the the energy bar drops by itself. Just weird to me that they don't hear that or ignore that.

The only purpose of getting sick with the burger is so you can get the scissors in the hospital. The scissors are needed in the last screen of the game for the good ending

I love that they cut from Beavis and Butthead to James and Mike laughing at them. Just like the original show.

I love how before James made the AVGN video on this game, I didn't hear many people hate on it. But now people are treating it like it's one of the worst things ever made. I'm not saying it's a wonderful game. But it's not shitty. Some parts are bullshit. 1. The hospital stage (practice makes perfect) 2. Having one life and having to use a password to continue. 3. Butthead's default attack is kinda stupid. This kind of reminds me of the Indiana Jones N64 video they did a while back.

Took me forever, but I actually beat it. James, Mike, the ending is so fucking worth it.

Uhhh.. Don't know why, but... This is funnier than the AVGN version, I guess..

@adils4604

7 жыл бұрын

Char is best

@rezapratama8633

7 жыл бұрын

+Adil S Char idolaqu

@MrIamcrusty

7 жыл бұрын

Cause that episode sucked and wasn't funny at all

@TheWitchHuntSlash

6 жыл бұрын

Haha it's because you're feeling their real frustration and I agree that it's funnier. AVGN is scripted so you lose the realness thus less funny

If you get all of the ticket pieces, go the right to the backstage entrance of the concert, use the scissors to cut the sandbangs, then grab the leather outfits to rock on stage with Gwar :)

It’s still hilarious they didn’t realize the characters saying “we’re sick” after you eat the burger your health starts to drop slowly lol

I actually beat this as a kid. I can't believe it.

Seems like they got trolled by the cheat guide by eating that burger. lol brilliant!

honestly... the game is really fun once you get the hang of it

@cornholio1230

7 жыл бұрын

Pull my finger heheh

@Nobunaga1983

7 жыл бұрын

yeah it's a fun game where you have to think a little bit. Mike and James have a small hatred towards anything Sega so they make the game seem worse than it is

@MegaSaga7

7 жыл бұрын

+David Steck it's bad. it's baddd

@Nobunaga1983

7 жыл бұрын

+Conation.Smithichie what are you trying to say?

@cornholio1230

7 жыл бұрын

+VicRules666 Are you threatening me?

The game isn't bad if you actually understand the references within each level. One of my favorite games for the Genesis. The Hospital level is a bitch though, I have to admit. Other than that, a really fun and hilarious game.

@XENOGOD

7 жыл бұрын

+avideogamemaster Challenge can consist of the challenge figuring the controls out, putting in a long ass password or surving 90% of the game with low health that cant be refilled so easy.

@JustinEvitable80

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. One of my friends and I played this game for hours.

@jackmcslay

7 жыл бұрын

If you have to understand references then it's not a good game. A good game can be played on it's own, not require previous knowledge to be played.

@jackmcslay

7 жыл бұрын

avideogamemaster Do you have to watch star wars before playing the best Star Wars games? How about 007? Heck even if a game is confusing if you didn't play the previous game on the same series that's already bad design, let alone a game that ties into a series in which the episodes aren't even tied together, at least for the most part.

@jordan89124

7 жыл бұрын

+Jack Mcslay untrue, otherwise quiz games would be terrible.

I remember renting this with my friend as a kid and beating it. And I had no idea what or who Gwar was. I remember seeing the ending and me and my friend didn't know what the heck we were watching haha.

James slowly becomes Nerd in this video.

Fly High, Lesbian Seagull!

@willgregg1076

5 жыл бұрын

Is that a Lynyrd Skynyrd reference

@sammyshehole

5 жыл бұрын

Touch a mountain. Climb a mountain.

@thepassionateginger6236

4 жыл бұрын

Lybians are cool

I can see James' inspiration for the AVGN-episode growing with every second of that James & Mike video :D

I absolutely loved this game as a kid. I even bought the copy I kept renting from the local video store when it went out of business. I don't remember it being this goddamn aggravating. I mean, it was difficult, but I was able to beat it when I was 11. Did anyone else like this game?

I loved this game as a kid.

@KeijiMaeda86

7 жыл бұрын

Because when you are a little kid and your parents buy you a game you asked for and that is the one game you will have for months to come you fucking learn to love the shit out of it no matter how shitty it really was.

@owenneil

7 жыл бұрын

+MonkeyFlakes I beat it many times back then. Not Knowing how to play, is different then it being bad. It's hard yes, but it's not the worst game.

@greengamerguy623

7 жыл бұрын

Finally some logic

@SlyBeast

7 жыл бұрын

Me too. A friend and I struggled through it for months and it's actually a good memory. That doesn't change the fact that it's very poorly designed.

@RotaryPoweredRX

7 жыл бұрын

Knowing how to play a bad game doesn't change the fact it's a bad game.

I think this game would make a funny AVGN episode

@kename27

7 жыл бұрын

It is a AVGN Episode.

@erika_fuzzbottom

7 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there. =P

@fallis07

7 жыл бұрын

Bet you thought you were really clever responding, without realizing you were trolled lol

@adriananimates7448

4 жыл бұрын

kename27 r/woo_never mind

I say Beavis and Butthead made this game they were just being jerks about it

@cornholio1230

7 жыл бұрын

Pull my finger heheh

@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962

3 жыл бұрын

.... about what......

The whole way through: "IT'S THE BURGER"

ARE YOU THREATENING ME?

@cesaracosta362

5 жыл бұрын

T.P.?

@GrosvnerMcaffrey

4 жыл бұрын

Master jedi

I dont know how they can beat some of the hardest nes games but be completely oblivious about how to play other games almost like you've never picked up a controller before. This game is pretty good.

@RoyStantz

7 жыл бұрын

That's right, and you really need to think like an adventure game designer in order to know what to do.

They did get one good game on the PC... It was an adventure game called Virtual Stupidity... It's great!

@chrisdpotts

7 жыл бұрын

yep!

@freakyfornash

5 жыл бұрын

Used to have the B & B Little Thingies mini-games CD, which was good for quick bursts of fun too. Though the best ever one by far was the arcade game (as is almost always the case), but was never complete, and also extremely hard to find as is though.

I suggested this months ago on your reddit. Thanks for doing a J&M and avgn on it! You guys rock. Greetings from Greece.

This game looks like it could have been a good adventure game if the controls weren't shit, made it easier to heal, not have a broken password system and either not have everything try to kill or make it not broken to take out enemies. Those types of bad games piss me off the most. So close yet so far.

@robertjenkins6132

7 жыл бұрын

Passwords are the worst. Just put a battery in the cartridge, cheapskates.

@CarozQH

7 жыл бұрын

Back then about 2% of all third party games had battery backup. At most.

11:16 They partied to death.

I honestly really enjoy this game. It's faithful to the show and once you know what to do it's pretty fun and engaging. If you've never played it before it does take some getting used to, but totally awesome once you do. Especially if you're a fan of the show.

This is like watching the birth of a child. I'm glad this experience frustrated you enough to make a new NERD episode! More please! :D

even speed runners have issues with this

There has never been a game that "Drop" from inventory is how you use the object. How the hell can you confuse that.

@mellowgeekstudio

7 жыл бұрын

I also couldn't understand why they kept doing that. I guess it was another trolling from the cheater´s guide (the other one being not telling them they should head stright up to the hospital as soon as they ate that burger).

@thisiswhatilike54

7 жыл бұрын

Because there's no "Use" button?

@alexanderflores6791

5 жыл бұрын

there is a use button. the action button/attack button automatically uses it when the right item has been selected in your inventory.

@twoDie4

4 жыл бұрын

Usually when you face an interactive object in any videogame, a new option should appear.

The persistence between them is absolutely phenomenal

I own this game and never figured it out. I'm happy to see you both playing it.

I'm glad you guys decided to release this after the AVGN episode even though it was recorded before it. I remember a while back you guys released a James and Mike Mondays video on a game (I can't for the life of me remember which one) and then the AVGN video on that same game came out very shortly after. It didn't feel like anything new having just explored the game already. Although it was cool to see it explored in character by the nerd, this is a much better way to go about it. Great video and keep it up guys

Out of curiosity, I read another guide online that says you should eat the rotten hamburger as the LAST thing you do before leaving Burger World. Whoever wrote the "official" strategy guide either was stupid, who wanted to punish readers by telling them the hard way. Come to think of it, a lot of official guide way back when either gave you harder methods for beating the game, or where just plain wrong.

I remember the amount of anger this game caused me lol

Best episodes: *when B & B fetch golf balls ("Mr. Anderson's Balls") *out in the woods with Mr. Van Driessen and the drums *drawing the naked people at art class **when they keep getting held back a grade (in kindergarten, 'these chicks are flat, heh heh') *when they go through trouble to get beer and it's non-alcoholic and many more

Really liked this and the episode. Having grown up mostly with sega games I was happily surprised to see the AVGN do an episode about a game I actually grew up with -- I actually own this game. I really love this game; it's actually quite fun after u know what to do. I used to rent it a lot, and finally I ended up buying it used in a trip to the US in Hartford, CT back in 1998. It's in fact the only game I ever bought in US, so it's the only one I have that says 'Genesis' in the box and cartridge, as the others say Mega Drive. As I said I like this game, but I do hate this hospital part and the fact the characters walk too close to the edge of the screen so you very little reaction time when an enemy appears. AVGN should do more sega games. But most importantly don't ever stop doing the character, James; it's always exciting to see when a new episode is on.

Lol I love the fact that James keeps having to refer to the strategy guide!! it's way too funny!!! Keep up the good work guys "well thats it game sucks"

I loved this game... how did I figure all of this out as a kid?! 🍔🍟🐀

to quote the internet "GIT GOOD" or something like that, its not a bad game, its an ok one, it just has a ton of cryptic stuff, done it as a kid

@RoyStantz

7 жыл бұрын

That's right, you really need to think like an adventure game designer in order to beat it. Also, I mastered it when I was 15.

@Zeburaman2005

7 жыл бұрын

Don't you find it funny how people these days don't seem to understand that a puzzle game has to be moderately cryptic to be enjoyable? Instead, they want the game to instantly bend over.

@RoyStantz

7 жыл бұрын

Zeburaman2005 That's right.

when I was a kid I actually played this game I didn't get very far

@Handsomistic1

7 жыл бұрын

This game is difficult but you just gotta use strategy; its creative in how you collect pieces.

@cornholio1230

7 жыл бұрын

Pull my finger heheh

@CommodoreFan64

7 жыл бұрын

I agree it was somewat a difficult game, and I was able to figure out a good bit on my own, but I was so glad I had dial up internet at the time, and was able too look up hints online. Yes I had internet in mid 94 on a Windows 3.11 PC.

@Neimonster

7 жыл бұрын

I used my '94 or '95 internet to look up cheats for Worms and Quake. That was really about the ONLY thing I used it for.

@robertjenkins6132

7 жыл бұрын

Oh no ... mid 90s Internet was bad. That dial-up modem sound, and then slow as fuck connection speeds, taking many seconds just to load a small JPEG on a web page. And if someone picked up the phone, you would loose your connection.

the run animations...some of the best ever in any video game

These guys cant even get to the actual hard part of driving the scooter...

@bryanna72

4 жыл бұрын

That part was tough for a few times. It only allows you like four hits.

Dude! My little Bro and I used to play this all the time those were the days burping and farting on people as attacks😂

This has been a great example of the evolution of the process of an AVGN episode...

I remember getting incredibly annoyed at this game when I rented it. It still looks great. The design is terrible though. It's one of the least fun games I've played from that era.

Maybe it is the nostalgia, but I had this game as a kid and remember loving it and not having most of the issues J+M were having with the difficulty or figuring out what to do.

@RoyStantz

7 жыл бұрын

You must have been a pretty good player to accomplish this.

Mike you know how you guys used to or still record the gaming footage with a DVD recorder? Are you able to connect the console to the TV, the DVD recorder to the tv, insert a blank disc into the recorder his record, play the game and the footage will end up on the disc? I know James did/does it differently with the re-recording onto the camera into final cut, but this other way seems slightly simpler. I don't know if that is an actual method though as I am yet to buy a DVD recorder so I haven't seen how all this could actually all connect up in reality, but I am trying to find out before I buy one, if you can record the footage like how I mentioned? Thank you.

I walked away from the video for a minute. And to my horror, I heard in the background, "WATCH OUT FOR THE HOT DOG! GET THE BOWLING BALL! SHRIMP SHRIMP SHRIMP!" -- I. Am. Fuck.

WOW. That game is *brutal*. Controller-snapping brutal. Since you recorded this prior to the AVGN episode (and you might have answered this beforehand), was this playthrough what made the light bulb go off and have you guys say, "We need to do a Nerd episode on this..."? It's almost reminiscent of what you did for Universal Studios Theme Park (which I really enjoyed watching both the J&MM and AVGN pieces on). Mike does a pretty decent Butt-head impression, by the way... Thanks again for another fun watch.

@jsmith5212

7 жыл бұрын

actually this game is really easy

@TheMMObro

7 жыл бұрын

at 1 point he says something very avgn-ish and i was like ha

The game's only redeeming quality is that the music sound a bit like Doom.

@RoyStantz

7 жыл бұрын

Fuck you, you stupid, fucking fuckwhistle!

@Izak80

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

I figured this game out as a kid with out internet or a strategy guide. That being said, the game is still hard as fuck. I wish I could be along for J&M mondays to help them out lol.

gotta appreciate how james and mike now do a little research and try to understand the mechanics and figure out if they're doing something wrong

I love this video. I watched the AVGN review before seeing this, and I can see all the parallels, aka the thought process behind the review.

11:06 And at that moment, James realized he HAD to make an AVGN episode out of this shitty game. lol

@RoyStantz

7 жыл бұрын

Fuck you.

@FerdinandLudens

7 жыл бұрын

Deep Ghoul Fuck you too

"Run over by a lawnmower" That's the clean version.

It's cool to air the AVGN first if you find such a game, was a bit odd seeing the Universal Studios thing again after the J&MM :)

The way you figure out the code is to watch the series. Almost the entire game is impossible to complete if you arent a die hard tv series fan. for us fans its a treasure full of easter eggs and references

"Don Knotts as a police officer" Yeah, that'd be crazy wouldn't it?

@Herman_Hedning

4 жыл бұрын

C. Morgan lol

11:00 i cracked so hard -"what they did expect you to do?" -"not get hit"

I love watching these guys argue and try their best to figure everything out, lol.

I imagine the rat eat the ticket and that's how it comes out in the man's vomit.

I actually thought this was better than the AVGN episode. I laughed out loud when you kept dying over and over. I didn't laugh during the AVGN episode.

@Orbrun

7 жыл бұрын

Because AVGN sucks ass now.

@paradoxzee6834

7 жыл бұрын

To be honest James is doing AVGN 12+ years now, I dont think the show is getting worst I think the show is the same only we are used to his jokes they stop to be funny now.

@MrIamcrusty

7 жыл бұрын

That's cause the episode sucked. I wrote that on the video and rabid fanboys came after me lol

@abysmalvsmarcus

7 жыл бұрын

Me too, I felt as the nerd he tried WAY TOO HARD and instead of being funny, he was just lame and stupid.

@radioisotoke1008

7 жыл бұрын

They put more effort into bullshitting on a couch than writing a script.

i find it funnier to imagine that the AVGN episode came out and james is pretending to not know what's going on

James and Mike were actually in front of a whiteboard with a ton of equations on it when they were trying to work out how this game works

When they finally got to the sick room and didnt get the scissors I lost my shit

Gotta luv Emulators and "Save States" :P Tho I appreciate you guys always going the Authentic Route :D

@tuxedomark

7 жыл бұрын

Back door route is better.

@akamk18

7 жыл бұрын

+Retrorando I love the backdoor more lol

@shtiken

7 жыл бұрын

+tuxedomark Back door all the way.

@akamk18

7 жыл бұрын

+Retrorando hell yea lol

@Smokinlucretia

7 жыл бұрын

Did you guys 4get about Freedom of Choice? Do you think any1 cares? lulz

Wish we could turn back time to the good old days!

@mokenetgumshoe1064

5 жыл бұрын

LOL

I thought I was just stupid when I couldn't understand this game, but I am glad to know it was the game and not me lol

James and Mike, you ever seen GWAR?

he should do an avgn review about this game

@morelia619

7 жыл бұрын

Literally the most recent episode.

@zamsaraguth

7 жыл бұрын

don't worry i know it was a joke.

@sparksthedaytrader9606

7 жыл бұрын

+Wrath of Vaughn why are you being ungrateful for Recent Avgn episodes? Since James has a family now he can't make episodes as good as they used to be but at the very least he tries

@DaleyBoy2267

7 жыл бұрын

he did

@Nobunaga1983

7 жыл бұрын

lame joke from a lame person

I beat this game as a kid. It took forever to figure out and you die, a lot in the process. The hospital part is super difficult

James and Mike Mondays is like a behind the scenes of the AVGN episode

Love this. It's basically the genesis of the AVGN episode.

Thank you for all your hard work......your show ROCKS!

I remember in a dreamcast game called bluestinger you win a gift for a girl and she says I'll give you a secret "it's Christmas"; the game took place on Christmas, but the password to this door was the date of Christmas. I was pissed when I found this out in the strategy guide.

This is like watching James in the *writing the script* portion of making a Nerd video.

@sinclairfourthousand

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, in the beginning of the video there is a caption that shows it was recorded before the nerd video.

More like James & Mike Sunday night's.

This was actually a great game. A really unfair one since the best chance of survival comes collecting the items in the best possible order

@Herman_Hedning

4 жыл бұрын

Somecooltoad press F to pay respect

It was like, cool to see how James & Mike turned this experience into a Nerd episode. Good insight into the scripting process or something. huhhuh..this was cool

Great Editing Mike!:) i hope u make more livestreams when u have time!!

I seriously refresh every 5 minutes Sunday night for this. James and Mike are video game friend goals.

I've had this game for 20 years and I never got past even 1 stage either. I never wanted to play the game that long. It's such a difficult, clunky and confusing game. Really bad game all in all.

@RoyStantz

7 жыл бұрын

Fuck you!

@Zeburaman2005

7 жыл бұрын

Can you hear the internet screaming "GIT GUD"?

I think Home Alone on Genesis would make a good James and Mike Mondays episode. The one where you set the traps and craft weapons.

8:40 you can feel Mike's suffering and frustration XD

I never default to the start button in anything. I always press the face buttons to select something because it almost always works and it always has. It's usually only when it fails do I even consider trying the start button.

This is ONE of those FEW & RARE instances in which the Sega Genesis version is better than the Super Nintendo Version, WAY better.

I remember that in the magazines, under the screenshots in the advertisements it said "demolish your own room" obviously completely false you couldn't do that in this video game.

Yes, please do a J&M monday with James as the nerd