I've followed E-Types all my life, but that was a real privilege to see two experts pulling apart a restored E-type. The devil is in the detail as we know! 😁

@user-oe1mb9hu9i

2 ай бұрын

It'll sell for that on the 'Mercan market where ANYTHING sells as long as it looks OK and then it'll be flipped again. MAGA !!! This said, it's been put together in a bit of a hurry. It wouldn't take much to put right and THAT would be a bargain compared with the going price for one of these. Accessories are EASY to reproduce correctly and even this dude wouldn't see any difference. Plastic fittings and door handles light fittings etc. everything is available or make them yourself with a 3d printer and nobody would know the difference. Good on someone who will make a great profit off this car. What kind of an anorak must you be to notice that a rear light fitting is not original anyway !

Maikel, I have watched this video a few times and I really felt I needed to make a comment. We have discussed this at length in our conversations on WhatsApp. I believe that Without the reproduction parts far too many of these cars would not be on the road. I think there has to be a tolerance & understanding between enthusiasts as to what is more important to them as the owner and restorer. Being involved commercially with E Types I fully understand your points but not everybody has deep pockets. As a hobby Jaguar restorer myself i do feel I bit slighted when you make the assumption we may have done the restorations cheaper or not paid attention to certain details which do not make the car better or handle and drive any better than original in some cases they are far better. Cheers Dave

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Dave, you and sadly a few others completely missed the topic. I do not think that you would describe a car as "no-expense-spared restoration ...... highly correct early E-Type" when it is not. Or would you?! 😲 So, no need for anyone to feel slighted unless you are selling repro parts as authentic or genuine. You can still find these parts, but that would really mean "NO EXPENSE SPARED" Not sure if you get my point?! I just want to defend those people, who are really putting years of effort in a restoration and get offered 200 k as nobody can see or doesn't know the difference anymore.

@nkelly.9

2 ай бұрын

In no cases are these cars better with repro parts than original parts. The quality of repro parts compared to original is abysmal. I have no problems with with cars filled with repro parts as long as this is disclosed , but it is never the case and it goes unmentioned in the pursuit of $$$. Like all things in life, the first 90% is the easy part. The last 10% is the hard part and those that chase that last 10% are always a cut above the rest. This is just a car. Skillfully misrepresented but not well misrepresented enough to fool afficionados.

@ClassicCarCave

2 ай бұрын

The reproduction parts are more for the overall aesthetics of the model. I agree their quality is not good in most cases the detail is poorly produced but we are lucky they are still produced as NOS is near impossible to get and if it is avaliable they want over OTT prices. In my videos i have always told the truth and even mention a lot of the priced i have paid for E Type & XK parts. I have upgrade both my Jaguars with better brakes and steering as i want to drive them to get the best driving experience i can. Modifications of certain items enhance there drivability. Cheers Dave

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

@nkelly.9 exactly right, and that is my point. The last 20% decide, not the first 80%. And that is the difference of "no expense spared" and "highly original". Thanks for your feedback 👍

@nkelly.9

2 ай бұрын

Hi Dave, I will agree with you on one thing, and that is swapping out the Dunlop wheel cylinders for a modern style caliper with seals placed in the housing, not on the pistons. This is purely a reduced maintenance situation, larger pads will give longer intervals between changes. But to call these "better" can be misleading. The words "upgrade" and "enhancement" are bandied about so much as to be worthless. One person's "upgrade" is a downgrade to another. The brakes on Jaguars have always been at the cutting edge. Every single Jaguar ever made had brakes that exceeded the grip of the tyres. ie. if the brakes were as installed at the factory and you shoved the pedal the car would skid. You cannot get "better" brakes than that.@@ClassicCarCave

Imagine selling a car and these two rocking up .😢

Maikel what an honor it was to meet you in Paris surrounded by so much history and beauty. Thanks again for being a real aficionado; working on cars and sharing the knowledge.

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Richard, entirely my pleaaure 🙏. Thank you for joining into my video. Hope to see you in Essen for more spectacular cars. ✨️

@shirleyboy8859

3 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Great Video Guy`s.... Do you know how much it went for..... :-))

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

@@shirleyboy8859 It sold for 184.000 €, read more www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=875256

@shirleyboy8859

3 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType A good price and probably worth it... As A Driving Car.... Thank you for taking time to reply... :-))

@mikewilson631

2 ай бұрын

@@shirleyboy8859 Cost over £182,000 to restore, three years ago. There's a lesson there, somewhere.

I love to see two Masters getting together and talking detail. Awesome Video!

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

I can tell you, we had a good time. Richard is so cool. He's such a handsome guy. Could watch his videos 24/7. Hope we meet again somewhere. Who knows.

I restored E Types, and everyone has an opinion. Building these cars is quite a challenge, and there are very few original examples available.

Great to see both of you meet up at the auction, I didn't think that after suggesting you contact Richard some months ago that this would ever happen with you living so far apart. Just goes to show that when you have a passion for a particular make or model of car , you will be drawn like bears to a honey pot and share your expertise , knowledge and passion.

I've loved watching these two in their very own KZread channels, each brings in many ways an almost different interpretation of these iconic cars. But now to see the two of them together is brilliant. Loved watching it.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, Mark. Richard is such a funny guy. We had a great time and fun in Paris. I have a good feeling we will meet again.

It seems he is judging it for concours. It is a 63y/0 car that are generally rusty crap. Instead of waffling crap about screws etc is it actually a good car? How much bog is in it, does everything work, does it run right etc. It is obviously a restored car using lots of aftermarket restoration parts. Which to me are perfectly fine,, providing the basic car is sound

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

we have verified the promised restoration "art" for a lot of money. See yourself. www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=875256 "....a total expenditure of £182,719.76. Today, this beautifully restored and highly correct early E-Type presents in immaculate condition." Sadly we could not drive the car inside or around the Louvre in Paris. Would have certainly commented on it. But we wanted to provide information for those, having seen the description compared to the estimate. How would you be able to verify the 184.000 GBP spent on the restoration. Still hope the video does help the others, not only about this car but how to read a description and how to judge a total amount invoiced.

In 1965 my Uncle Sam had an e~type. He was a pilot for American Airlines. I was s privileged to have him teach me to drive in his Jaguar. The looky-loos were staggering Gassing up took forever!

I restored 2 E Types (and helped a good friend with another) over the years. These cars were buckets of parts and they were driving restorations. For me an important distinction is whether they are historically significant (mine were not, which was intentional) It appears this car is being presented as "historically significant". I feel the pointing out the issues with this car is totally justified (and very helpful)

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Yepp, that's it. Thank you 👍 you will like my upcoming video. Stay tuned.

Two e-type legends in same place ❤ Always good to hear your opinion and sharing your wisdom...like you said...one could buy and enjoy it while trying to find the missing original parts to make it better...a good and enjoyable deal from that end 😊

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Many thanks for feedback. Much appreciated. Keep watching and sharing. 👍

Clearly you are both E Type experts. That being said, I prefer RMO's positive attitude about the car and its beauty. Yes, I'm certainly no purist and I could care less if there's a crease underneath the trunk area... it looks better without the crease. Cigarette lighter?!... nitpicking to me. I'm more interested in how the car runs and handles. Hopefully, the next owner will also be a user and not a collector (non-driver). Thanks for posting. Cheers.

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

It would have been a very short video just to describe the beauty of the car, and I doubt it would have explained the estimate.

@ronschwolsky1626

3 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Yes, valid point.

I really liked watching a Jaguar E Type that was advertised as something when it really wasn't. I wish I had this much knowledge about a specific car . It happens with all cars especially the CORVETTE. That is another car you really need someone that knows Corvettes, all nuts and bolts are a must. Re stamping is ramped in the Corvettes making something it never was. This video is great.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Hello James, 👋 thank you very much for your feedback. I think it is good to know some more details about what someone is trying to sell us. Did not know the Corvette is a similar thing but explains a lot to me now. Knowing the E Type S1 is not an easy thing as it has been developed on the road in 1961. Thanks for watching, and stay tuned. Did you see my other vids? 😊

Thanks for the great video 👍👏👏

Great to see two of my favorite E type experts get together on this car.. both expressing different, yet similar viewpoints. Maikel with his encyclopedic knowledge of what is and isn't original and Richard with his restoration skills (and more) I have learned so much from both of them through their YT videos. Maikel is unabashedly a purist and wants others to be AWARE of what is and isn't correct, especially since OBLs (Outside Bonnet Lock) Es command BIG prices. If I wanted a genuine OBL, I would want Maikel's opinion on the car and its parts, otherwise, as in the case of this one, just another convertible, and not worth the $400K that OBLs have sold for. When one owns ANY 'collectible' vehicle you, as the owner, have to decide the course you will take with the car... Put in a Chevy engine instead of the OE? For me, having a matching numbers car is enough, and I do the best I can to put the best replacement parts on that I can find. The other person that would be a great addition to Richard and Maikel would be Chuck Hadley, Monocoque Metalworks, a third great mind who is also superb asset to the E type community.

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

🙏 @fezziwig47, you have understood my approach. I am fine if someone installs a Chevy engine in a composed 68 E Type and selling it as an original OBL for 500.000 USD. But if someone is asking my opinion about a car either to restore, drive or just collect, I will tell the truth about all the details. If you prefer, I can just tell you how nice a car is if that adds any value. Meeting Richard in real life was a great moment ( I thought my KZread was on, but he was there in real life). 😆😆 We had an extremely good time, and it was certainly not our last gathering. Would be cool to have Chuck around. This time it was Paris, who knows what is coming up.😉

@fezziwig47

3 ай бұрын

OMG, how kind of you to reply. I ALWAYS look for your new videos to learn more about the E that I have owned for 35 years. ... and I will have to check for my rear seams, as I stripped and refinished the 69 about 30 years ago and now I hope I did not mistakenly cover those up! Between you, Richard and Chuck, I feel like I have been through the University of E types! thank you all for taking your time to inform and educate us!👩‍🎓

This reminds me of listening to a couple of Porsche experts arguing over the correct depth of anodizing on a bolt head. That was my last concours ever.

This is my all time favorite Jaguar!!!! Sooooo cool to look at.

Out of the nit picking of bolts from chin and labels not correct. The biggest change is the re spray……it’s not original. You missed that ?

I got to sit in a Original from new Jag E-Type a few years ago , I was so excited I took my overalls an boots an jeans off , it was so Beautiful inside an out ..

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Lucky you, was it a FHC? They always remind me of my childhood. The smell is still the same. I have an unrestored 61 FHC, suede green inside. Sometimes, I am just taking a seat for a while.

@salvagedb2470

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType it was the same Type as the Corgi model I had years ago , Hardtop in Dark metalic blue....the Guy bought it New in its day an he owned a local Engineering shop in my Town , so anything it needed it got it , the Car was immaculate.

True experts and enthusiasts.

I saw that the car had a lot of repro parts, some very easy to spot, but I was surprised that it sold so low. Your video shows a lot more details that were not visible in the pictures shown by RM Sotheby's. Btw, did you know that actually the engine was not matching? See added note before auction: "ii. Please note, on further inspection it is believed that this car is fitted with a freshly stamped engine." Now I understand better. Always see a car in the flesh! Thank you for the video

@RichardMichaelOwen

3 ай бұрын

Yes I was wrong and did not see the addendum noting a restamped engine; who does that? Thanks for watching.

I’ll take it after market worts and all!!!❤

Takes me back to the days when I was working for the British Leyland dealer. Could have bought a 69 primrose yellow XKE with a blue interior for $2250. I'm old.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

The good old days. 😀

Those filled in seams under the tail and the bolted on steering wheel are the big problems for me (and possibly the louvers). Those weren't parts unavailable decisions.

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Hello, and thank you for the feedback. It all depends on what the owner wants to have the car for. It is certainly good for cruising round but no good for shows. All can be fixed, and we have seen that the estimate is pretty good. Car sold for 184.000. To bring the car to another level might cost you another 100 k. Should have been done straight away to avoid double work and cost.

It is great to see the experts at work, I guess from new the E Type like many British cars would be far from perfect, however in looks it is almost Art, like the lines of the early Spitfire, the beautiful Hawker Hunter, or a classic Sailing Yacht. It is good to see this car has been restored to a very good standard, and it is another one saved.

Really interesting video to highlight some of the detail that is missing with this car. I like the fact that Maikel makes the point that modified cars are also great cars but it is important that if a vendor is claiming a car to be 100% correct, then it should be and it is down to people like Maikel and Richard to point these things out. Its also worth noting that restoration of the early cars is better than, say, 10 years ago as we have gathered more information on them.

Mes félicitations á Richard M. Owen pour cette merveille ...

I love it as well. If a person knows about these issues and gets it for a good deal. Then drive it and enjoy. Not everyone is a purest.the funny thing about this whole video was to ease the people's minds that have one of these cars and have a lot more money than the estimated value of this car. So of course these guys are going to pick this a part. It still might be a good deal.

Way back when I was young, I bought a 63 E-Type for 900 dollars, this was 1974. Mechanically very good, but with body damage on both sides. I did the body work in mom’s garage, painted it in the driveway. Had the upholstery done professionally, but did everything else myself. Drove it to college in 76/77. My other vehicle was my 73 Kawasaki Z1. Somehow made it working part time as a Honda mechanic. Those days are long gone!

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

... but you still remember, 🫵 which is the good thing.

@tedecker3792

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType and what memories they are! The E was the only car that would occasionally scare the crap out of me. I did get to experience the far corners if it’s performance envelope, as it was just a used car; and I drove it as such.

Its interesting how far you can go to make something original. I know from my own experience in the antique business its possible to make anything. There's nothing these guys were talking about that couldn't be made brand new by somebody and look completely original, its just a matter of finding that craftsman and how much it would cost.. This is why the purist prefers to buy barn finds in unrestored condition so they know what they're getting.. The guys at the top end like these two want a perfect car of which there's probably only one or two in existence in museums so its completely unrealistic..

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Many thanks for your feedback. Very well described. There are still some unrestored cars out there that are not restored. A perfect high-end restoration with genuine parts I have only seen very, very few, and usually these do not come up for sale in public. The key is to understand what is genuine and what is not. Only then, you understand the real value.

so many details that are not original, but I'll still have it 🤩 My fav E is an early coupe in golden sands with non-chrome wire wheels and a non-original 5 speed box to give it long legs... 🤪

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

I know someone who has a Golden Sand FHC for sale here in Europe.

I would be interested to see how this was described in the catalogue (other than just £180,000 of restoration bills). I doubt that it says it was 'reasonably restored with lots of after market parts'. At what point does it become a case of misleading rather than simply "buyer beware" ? If I was able to buy at this level i'd hope at least to be told why it's cheaper, rather than facing this! 😊 ( I also hope to find KZread of the actual auction to see how the auctioneer described it, and how much it sold).

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Good morning, many thanks for watching and your feedback. There are 2 things which made me think this could be a bargain. 1st CMC logo on the cam covers, 2nd the online description. Wondering 🤔 about the low estimate and the worries of my clients made me checking out the car. I have been trying to be fair, and I still think the car was worth saving and restoring. Maybe someone is fixing all the bugs, and the car will be sold on for + 300 k. Car sold for 184.000 €.

@jonathancarson1974

3 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Many thanks 👍. Maybe the next owner can review and improve, or enjoy as it is.... Enjoy Paris. I'm living a playboy life vicariously through these videos! Regards from Northern Ireland.

The first thing l noticed was th bonnet latches but as you got into to this E type you spotted more things that were not 100% correct the Phillips head screws on the tail light lenses a definite no no and other little things and you are an expert when it comes to E type Jaguars

Nice video! Yet watching it, I get the German expression "die Kirche im Dorf lassen" into my head. Let me put it this way, this car wasn't done a 100%for but we don't know the circumstances leading to this result. On top, it could have also simply landed on a scrap yard and been lost. As interesting as it may be to investigate into it, we'll probably never find out, where the shortcuts initiated. Just because it has a lot of aftermarket parts on it doesn't make it a fake Rolex , just not the real deal for the seasoned, detail geek collector. Our hobby has such a big variety of approaches to it. The more geeky ones, to which I'd count myself, should be forbearing with the one-eyed 🙂.

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Many thanks for watching and the extensive feedback. I had never seen the car before in real but was reading somewhere that is was an almost 200 k GBP restoration and should be just as it left the factory. Hence I thought something is wrong, either the estimate or the description. I have made a conclusion, what about you?

@oliverkoch2003

3 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType As for you classic cars are passion and profession for me at the same time. I´m way more with you than my comment may suggest. This is just another shiny example of a renovated - not restored - car. But no surprise to me as descriptions are always so praising and reality sets in and makes you ask where the described car is, as it can't be the one you're looking at. In this case - if 200kGBP have really been spent - why is the result so disappointing in detail? But apparently still someone went for its bling bling.

Any Jag video can only be enhanced by the Knowledge and the presence of Richard... :-)))

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

And I hope we will produce some more together. 😄😄

This car looks perfect to me.....I'll take it.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Best you go here www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=875256 and write that you want to buy it. Auction sale was 184.000 + fee.

Quite an on the fly education here and a bonus point for meeting Michael R Owen

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

@pril250, it is a superficial evaluation, not more. And great meeting Richard in Paris. 👍

Great video!!! Anybody know what was the final auction price ????

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

184.000 € + Fee + VAT

I have a 65 FHC which I have owned for about 40 years. It has never been restored and retains much of its factory parts except for the seat covers and parts that had to be replaced due to ongoing maintenance. Some will say it's current condition is on the "shabby" side with drooping headliners, soiled carpets, dents/dings galore, and compromised performance and reliability. I feel that the car is approaching a crossroad, where a decision must be made to either maintain its current "originality" or restore it to improve its drive-ability and appearance, albeit with aftermarket parts. I treasure its current condition but yearn for the experience of seeing the bonnet lift up when flooring it in 4th gear. Any thoughts?

@JaguarEType

Ай бұрын

hello @DaMaxchi, nice car I guess. and good you preserved it the way it is. Remember, original is only once and you can can not turn it back. However, it is a personal choice. I would try to keep the car as original as it is, and doing maintenance is not a restoration. You could try the remove the interior light and spray some glue in between the roof and headliner. For the rest I would still replace everything needed for a solid drive. That is maintenance. So, new rubber bushes, engine mountings, IRS mounting blocks. Even rebuilding the engine should not be an issue to maintain its survivor flair. But once you start excessive work on Body or interior, you would want to have it all matching again. Maybe also the gear box and diff rebuilt to get is all back to solid feeling. Wheel bearings you will already have replaced. All these things make the car more silent and more enjoyable, without loosing the patina. Let me know what you are going for. What VIN is it?

@DaMaxchi

Ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Thank you for the suggestions....makes sense. If I'm interpreting your thoughts correctly, perhaps the best approach for me is to put the effort into the drivetrain and suspension but retain the exterior and interior. Basically, improve all the components that are not visible!!! I think I would be pleased with that. The VIN is 1E31950. BTW...I had the very good fortune to meet the original owner who picked up the car at Browns Lane and drove it throughout Europe before shipping it to his home in the USA. He shared many wonderful stories about the car, establishing the provenance of 1E31950 which I hope to pass on someday. Thank you again! Here's a rather amateurish video on my KZread channel that I did a few years ago on getting my E-Type presentable for a local car show. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zq2ozLabZ8zQmNI.htmlsi=PpYxwCGkeAZru6Ur

I don’t think it’s a bad price for this car. I’d hunt for the proper steering wheel and some other things but it would cost me much more as I would pay to have it redone in a quality British racing green then drive it.

So my e type is well restaured because it has all the correct points mentioned , I'm happy The headlight fairings are supposed to be silver too and not the color of the body

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

The early cars had the sugar scoops in body color. Good job you verified how your car war done and you are satisfied.

Was it originally an early 'flat floor, outside bonnet lock' car or has that been retro fitted to add value?

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

It was in a very, very poor state with almost no parts on. It was not really a car and that is why it is what it is. An assembled commercial restoration. Nothing for collectors. I think and I am pretty sure, that is the reason why it only made 184.000 € plus fee. It is a "modern" car to drive and enjoy. Might be better or not, I have seen new parts lasting 60 years, I have only seen 60 years old parts still lasting. Thank you for watching. 👍🏻

What a great video. To think that these cars were barely £2K when new …. Or in todays money £50K …… less than a new Audi RS3

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

... and it was all labour intensive. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏻

Car now for sale by RM Sotheby's at Monaco on 11 May, estimated 160k-190kEUR. A lemon lol...

@JaguarEType

20 күн бұрын

What is your guess? Now, with the reportedly restamped engine to match the VIN plate.

@paydase

20 күн бұрын

@@JaguarEType RM Sotheby's indicates : "Restored by marque specialist Classic Motor Cars between 2018 and 2020 at a total cost of more than £180,000, with new engine block and cylinder head fitted". So, they don't hide the fact that it is not anymore the original engine, no matching numbers in the ad. They may very well sell it at a good price, it is Monaco and not everybody knows what is originality of an OBL...

@JaguarEType

20 күн бұрын

And what do you think, why is it again for sale?

@paydase

20 күн бұрын

@@JaguarEType RM Sotheby's claim that it was sold at 184k including fees in Paris on 31 January. I guess it may have been shill bidding with no real buyer...

Is there really a market in Europe or the US for expensive restored left hand drive E types, especially one with a load of after market parts including the bonnet and picture frame, did the car have a front end smash?

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Hi Paul, many thanks for your feedback. Obviously, there is a market. As I said in the video. Some people want to have a coutervalue and quality for what they pay. Others are happy to have a good-looking, running car. The price might be the same, but I am not about the value.

ImagIne the winning bidder watching this video.

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Well, I think or hope the new owner is aware of it. Who would buy a car for that money without the knowledge? Maybe investing some more money for upgrading or using it as is.

I guess it depends why you are buying it. If every screw has to be as original.... how much does it matter? These cars are now 60 years old so very few really original cars are left.... I would be happy with this car...

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Agree with you. Would love to read your comment on my upcoming video. It is just about that. Stay tuned 👍

I can understand nitpicking all the aftermarket parts if it was being judged at a concours event but the price it sold for justifies this. I think it would still be a wonderful car to drive and you would be enjoying it more on the road than if you paid $400,000 + for one that was absolutely perfect that would never be driven.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you, but dobyoubalso agree with the car description? "After being repatriated to the UK the Jaguar was subject to a no-expense-spared restoration by CMC, with 17 invoices issued between February 2018 and February 2020 documenting a total expenditure of £182,719.76. Today, this beautifully restored and highly correct early E-Type presents in immaculate condition." www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=875256 Do not forget the 150.000 for the project car itself. Wait to see my upcoming video. But as I said, I agree with you on the sales price.

@barrondeville1866

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType According to the description in the link you provided, it may be beautifully restored but not highly correct. To answer your question I would obviously not agree with the description however the new owner got a good deal considering how much the seller spent acquiring the car and the cost of the restoration. I do feel for the previous owner spending that much money and not getting the perfect accurate restoration he should have received. We also do not know any of the conversations the owner had with CMC during the restoration process if he agreed to or knew about CMC acquiring and using aftermarket parts.

it is so easy for you to spot these errors.. Surely there are available reproduction parts of the actual parts? You say it should be a wing nut , and yet it isn't. Surely there are replica wing nuts, which would make your job of spotting them a little more difficult ! 😅 Unless the restorer just wanted a bolted together running presentable car, rather than an exceptional example ...

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. as you say, it is so easy to spot all the issues when you are at the car, but did you search the internet for this car? You can read about a perfect restoration and all factory like. You might have seen all the details for the first time in my video. How do you see the description on the Internet now?

@jonathancarson1974

3 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType I am a fan of Richard Michael Owen, and watch his videos. I have been watching as much Retromibile KZread footage possible, and was overjoyed to see Richard has covered parts of the show. The algorithm must have seen that I watched Richards Retromibile video, and therefore suggested me to watch yours!. I do not own any classic cars but love to see reviews or exhibitions on KZread. I have not looked specifically at the internet for this car (or the auction page) as I sadly am not a buyer., just a casual observer .

Got that unfortunate firewall spigot for the throttle control, we came unstuck one night when it jumped out after a hard stop, good job we had tools and could reinstall it.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Wow, I've never heard that before. But good job you could fix it. 👍

@adoreslaurel

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Friend had had a few drinks, he said you drive home {420G] as I rolled slowly off a grassy bit up country the right rear trailing arm caught on a 10 inch storm water pipe going out onto the road, the car jerked and lurched forward, then I had no go pedal, Owner is a tradesman and had tools and a torch,late evening, fortunately the model had a triangle plate with 3 bolts, we removed them so that we could slot it back in the spigot then rebolted it, but imagine someone way up country with no idea what to do to fix it.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

What a story @@adoreslaurel, but you see you will never forget it. I am surprised that happened, I am struggling to get them in, always have to remove the mounting bracket from the bulkhead. The rubber buffer is in? Maybe someone shortened the slave shaft of the throttle to get it into the rubber buffer without removing the bracket at the bulkhead. The should not fall out in its own. Even though you made a rather unusual movement with that car.

@adoreslaurel

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType I think a cable was used either before or after. no problem from then on I would imagine. I was mad at my friend because he never bothered to replace that bent bolt so i imagine that would mean a slight toe out on the right rear wheel, Would have been a wobble job to remove, probably a stud with a nut would be a better idea.

Would I be correct in saying that the inside of the headlamps beneath the glass visor should not be body-coloured but rather painted silver?

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Early cars have the sugar scoops in body paint.

@georgemarks

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Thanks for that! Didn't know they were called 'sugar scoops'! Sounds yummy! 🤣

Appreciate the knowledge on the detail but how far do you go? If an original part simply cannot be sourced, the options are new old stock if available or an aftermarket pattern part. Then there is the argument that a car can only be original once and therefore must remain unrestored so there is a choice of having an unrestored car with lost or broken trim that may never be roadworthy or see the light of day because numerous owners are all seeking the same original parts that no longer exist or go with a sympathetic restoration with aftermarket parts. Personally I would sooner see more E-types on the road being enjoyed and appreciated by the owners and the public with non original parts than many never being restored because the original parts can't be sourced.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

In geral I do agree with you. But many, many parts can be restored, and still many original parts can be sourced. It just takes time and many. I just find it too easy to chuck the screws or cylinders away when they can be restored. Of course, it has to match the overall look. But would you call a car with countless aftermarket parts highly correct and no expense spared? Such a description do deserve only a few cars and certainly not this one. I would call this car a commercial restoration. And there is nothing wrong with it.

Oh dear. I admire the knowledge but it also makes me slightly crazy. Having owned one of these and taken it to shows it used to drive me crazy when (fortunately very rarely) someone would tell me that this screw or that screw isn’t original. Crazy because who really cares? Isn’t it more important to keep these things on the road? Once someone told me that no e-types had an original bonnet anymore and he explained in great detail how to spot that mine was aftermarket, only for him to discover on inspection that mine was original! He was soo disappointed. Tells you everything you need to know. Game,Set, and Match! 😂

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

I like that story. Of course not everyone has the passion for details, but once you start it, you want to know more. It is a kind of competition. It brings enthusiast of details even closer together. Some people like only to drive the car, other only love to show it, and again other like to have it in genuine condition. Everyone to his liking. 👍🏻

I guess this car falls into an awkward gap, a little expensive for a daily driver or weekend car but falling short as a collectible. Although we all have different viewpoints and standards I don't like the concept of the restamped engine number. It does feel like borderline fraud. A friend has an E-type, I believe the block in his is from a later 4.2, but it is an honest car. FWIW I think the spade connectors are wrong for that age of car, I think they should be copper and certainly not with transparent sleeves as you already mentioned. Still an attractive car, would be interesting to see how many other parts have been restamped though...

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Very good feedback. 350.000 (project + restorstion) is also too much for my understanding, but the 184.000 reflects the real value. You will probably like my upcoming video. It is about authentic l and basic restoration. Stay tuned. 👍

@g0fvt

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType thank you for the reply. I am sure the rebuild was frustrating with a lot of original parts missing. Sometimes I suspect it is better to get the car complete than obsess over originality, like a rolling project.

The main problem I see is that the steering wheel is on the wrong side

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Good comment 😄, but I think, it is depending on the point of view.

Great video,details on this car are now pretty average for these OBL cars .Just spent ten years looking after a collection of a dozen obl cars until very recently which have mostly been sold on a fire sale basis ….possibly wrecking the OBL market and also the knock on effect for other early cars too .sorry about this

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

There are always some OBL's for sale, that is normal. But do you know of any exceptional cars? I only know of a very, very few which reminds me of a genuine 61 E Type.

@scottstrails9369

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Thanks again ,most of the original OBL cars stay undisturbed and generally shrouded very closely ,luckily I have seen and appraised many

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

@@scottstrails9369 and where is that? Might be interesting to see.

Thank you for being you. What a fabulous rundown on a knight Jake I’m an automotive electrical and mechanical engineer. Amazing what parts are missed and what parts are original. Regards Alan from down under fabulous

There are so many of these early cars that have been built up from later cars Or shut and butts doubt there is much of the original car left, if any of it Lots of greedy people chancing their luck A much deeper look into the car should be carried out and its history looked into

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

You are right, and depending in what you are looking for, you should be pretty knowledgeable before you waste your 💰 Thanks for watching.

Even with a few non original bolts, it should still fetch 10k I'd reckon ?

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Probably even more 😳

What did it sell for?

@JaguarEType

Ай бұрын

It is written several tines in the comments and the description. 184.000 € plus fee.

@railmaster.7752

Ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Thank You very much, the seller lost a lot of money, hope he didn't thought he had a concourse 100% oeiginal restoration done or that he paid for one!

Headlamp buckets supposed to be silver gun metal...not primrose.

Pleased to hear experts struggling to define collectable and high prices to protect investers.Stepped in early, who decides to use my invaluable up! I do. My hobby dies with me! Yes it is historical significance, but look most museums are overfilled with unpersonalised relics, not able to touch/enjoy, just because investers think they rule the world. Not on my patch, my precious original goes with me when I leave this planet, the next generation is only interested in fake memories, preferable digital!

Quite All the Nitty-gritty on that particular Kitty..Well Done. 👍🫖🇬🇧🫖

oooopps...if I was seller Id be having a word with CMC ( who have a justly deserved massive reputation)

I wonder what happened to pheona richmonds yellow one ,reg # FU 2 😂😂

@simon-oy6um

3 ай бұрын

So youve seen it too 😇

Don't knock it 😯 I would love to own it if I had the money

Nitpicking, nitpicking, nitpicking ... -- Do ANY of these minute Details Detract from the car's DRIVING Experience ?? - - I'd Predict NOT !

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Nitpicking is my job. That is what my clients expect me to do. To protect them from being misled.

@RichardMichaelOwen

3 ай бұрын

If a restorer can't get the outter details right, how do you think the rest of the car is?

@marekh3296

2 ай бұрын

Neither nitpicking nor the driving experience are the subject of the video. The question posed at the beginning was:- "Why is the asking price so much lower than expected?". Whilst you are there Maikel, modern clutch/brake line fittings on the ends of the pipes are longer than 1961 versions...

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Hi@@marekh3296 thank you for the answer to that useless comment above. Do you have a source of an original style fitting? I am buying old brake lines and hoping to find some good restorable fittings. The originals have the circles and often little slots around. 👍🏻 Tedious work anyway.

@guydavies3035

16 күн бұрын

I am a petrolhead and strongly believe cars only make sense when they are being driven. I can’t stand the sort of people who “collect” vehicles for “investment” purposes. I would rather see a non original example that is used on the road / track and enjoyed, than a perfect example locked away in a museum or in a private garage. This is even worse; it is a non original example hoping to be a museum piece. To me, a car is a tool, to be used. In use bits wear out, or even sometimes are replaced / improved. I don’t mind that at all.

What are you talking about? $180-200k is the high end of the Jaguar e types in the USA. I found only one for sale in the USA asking $326k. They are selling from $16k for a junker up to the low 100k. That yellow one would sell near the top of any but those snobs that need all original. I buy to use my Jag and the other cars in my modest collection. My Jaguar is not an e type it’s an XK8. My family had a sky-blue 1967 e bought new. I used it quite a bit.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

A '65 car just sold on BAT for US$ 270.000 +, this one here is a rare, limited, very early, OBL '61 car. bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-jaguar-xke-roadster-39/#comment-13774078

When buying aa dream does it really have to be real?

Just a shame these cars are now too expensive to go to the shops in , In my view cars , aircraft , wrist watches are all made to be used to the full !

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

what do you think we are doing here!? 🤓 kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYhpz5WniJaxqpM.html OTS OBL no. 011 and first E Type with open headlight. Made to be used. We are rocking them, and they work fine.

Omigod! Vertical scribe lines in the ends of the front plastic marker light covers! 3:29 They might as well have put an old Hudson Hornet on the stand and called it a Jaguar. Totally fraudulent, I tell you.😃

What did it go for?

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

184.000 plus fee. Get ot all right and you would probably get a lot more. Plus you have a car that will stand above the average for the rest of its time.

Scrap it & start again 🤣

It's funny nobody is answering to the elephant in the room. The car is primrose yellow. I own a 1964 XKE, black with red interior and I would take it over a Primrose yellow one any day of the week. In fact I would never buy any jaguar in Primrose yellow, All color is a personal choice but there still has to be a value spread between the worst color primrose yellow and the best colors. Perhaps 10,000 or even 20,000 at this price range , a lot more than incorrect nuts and bolts - thoughts?

@JaguarEType

Ай бұрын

Good day, and thank you for your comment. The car is actually not primerose but create. In my description is a link to the xkedata.com page where you see daylight photos. In the showroom, the light was too dark. But you might be right or not with the colour. It is everyone's choice, and they were ordered in primrose, so someone must have liked it.

My question is always the same to these types of people that talk about original. I truly believe most of them would rather have a shabby looking rusty hunk of junk with all factory original parts then the nice shiny wonderful, looking newer car. When people see a jaguar XKE They don’t care that a bolt, a washer, or a screw is 😅 shiny or dull. They don’t care if they can see a weld Mark or not. Given the choice, I believe most same people would prefer to own a beautiful, looking jaguar with some reproduction parts then a worn, looking jaguar with all original parts. The object of owning a car is to drive it, and to enjoy it. And as for the reproduction Rolex, all legalities aside. Most of the replicas are every bit as good as the real deal. I think most people would prefer to wear a beautiful, looking replica Rolex rather than one that is all beat up and genuine. Cars are meant to drive. They aren’t meant to Inspect piece by piece and complain about every little bit that isn’t factory installed. If you’re a pompous human being, and want the real deal, no matter what shape it’s in, good for you. The car in this video looks beautiful and in all reality, it probably drives every bit as goodas an old rusty original

@JaguarEType

Ай бұрын

@louislazarus9253, you totally missed the point of the video. It is not about about what is better, preferred, you like. It is what is being said and described. The majority of the viewers got my point, and I am thanking them all for the 👍

@louislazarus9253

Ай бұрын

@@JaguarETypeYes, of course your viewers would appreciate whether a slotted screw head or Philips was used on the taillight or whether there was a spacer on the rear-view mirror assembly. People like that exist in abundance but so do people like me. Given the choice, I'd take this beautiful Jaguar just the way it is and drive it proudly with all of its "unoriginal" parts. 99% of the people on the planet would prefer to look at a car in this kind of condition than one that was anything less. You might consider, if you really want to be truthful, that THIS CAR was in original condition when it left the factory and went to a dealership. The minute somebody drove it off the lot, it became a used car and really no longer original. All the parts immediately began to wear and within a few miles the car became less and less original. Just because somebody replaced a screw with an OEM screw doesn't mean it was still ORIGINAL. You should also know I've owned two Jag E Types. One was a '66 Roadster I bought in Germany while serving in the military a very long time ago and the other was a '62 Coupe that I "hot rodded" by replacing the Jag engine and transmission with a blueprinted Corvette LT-1 450 h.p. small block V-8 and a Muncie M-22 transmission. I made some other changes and that car because an eye-catcher whenever I drove it. The bottom line is we all get to have an opinion and while you seem to be more concerned with trying to make the car as close as possible to the way it was when it was manufactured, I couldn't care any less about that as long as the car looked beautiful, new, shiny and well cared for. Cars are for driving and being enjoyed by their owners are even if some of the parts aren't exactly OEM. I do appreciate your passion but getting lost in the minutia isn't for me.

Jaguar changed for the worse in 1988 when the xj6 sedan was replaced with a cheap shoddily assembled , poorly styled with a Ridiculous plastic U - shaped shifter it was just Pathetic.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Do not confuse Jaguar with plastic Leyland,. Remember, Jaguar became part of the state-owned Leyland in 68. That is when all the plastic appeared.

Shaun only does convertibles...they are so much less time...1/2 compared to a hard top. Vicki and I have rotisseried 2 E's..one a convertible and one a 2+2. We strongly feel the convertible takes 1/2 the time....some 4000 hours and a hardtop is 8000 hours. Assuming NO rust and a running motor and functional trans we will spend $10000 for materials (meaning soft materials..paint, filler, sand paper, primer, clear, leather, wilton, rubber) absolutely no parts...no hard parts. And NO None, Zilch outside labor. To repeat, NO rust repair. And most important...our E's will NEVER BE FOR SALE . Why, we always run into spending a couple of days to get one fastener (screw, nut, bolt) properly installed. Mitch and Vicki

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Hi Mitch, 👋 I am on your side as I am doing kind of the same. It takes years to get everything perfect and original. It requires commitment and passion to never shortcut or compromise. Clearly you ain't gonna make profit. Turn it round. To make some profit, you need to shortcut everywhere and buy repro parts of the shelf. Easy job and lot cheaper. No problems with that, but you should always tell the truth about the car and not describe repro stuff as original or a quick restoration for a "no money spared". All the hidden jobs i.e. pistons, crank shaft balancing, bearing, UJ, raw bodyshell ecc. should be foto documented. Otherwise, I would consider them as not done. A home restoration can sometimes be better than a famous garage job. Keep up your good attitude. It will return. 👍

@garthlundquist3623

3 ай бұрын

You guys are beyond obsessive. Your attitude takes the joy out of owning and driving an E Type. We had one for 45 years and the best part is in the driving experience. Trailer queens aren’t any fun.

€184,000 EUR | Sold

OTOH...this hysteria over originality is nonsense and market driven. Hats off to hese guys who absolutley know their stuff BUT the open bonnet locks were a design flaw- otherwise id have retro fitted them to my 1962 OTS. Also ( also) my original fuel tank has small leak and Im about to do a 3000mile rally. What to do? Keep as its "original"? I dont think so! ( ditto the radiator). Just realised...my tyres, alternator, brakes also not original but they work!

sold for 184000 euros

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. What is your opinion about the price?

@ianalderton6683

3 ай бұрын

fits to the condition- probably an original OLB with lots of new parts. and a bit cheaper than somebody was probably prepared to pay- anyway- sold ! PS I have no connection to seller or buyer ; ) personally I am looking to buy an OTS 6 cylinder but not in this price area ; )) @@JaguarEType

Jaguar Changed when VW got hold of it & Started Knocking out million pound E Type Replica's With VW Lumps!! How the Fk did that happen?!😢

@JaguarEType

Ай бұрын

Sadly you are right. So better stick to the real classics

Ditch the trivial criticisms - tedious - it’s a great motor car, if “ originality “ costs £180k more you can shove it. I’d buy this.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Hi @johntaylor5968, ... according to you, this car is correctly described as:".... Jaguar was subject to a no-expense-spared restoration by CMC, with 17 invoices issued between February 2018 and February 2020 documenting a total expenditure of £182,719.76. Today, this beautifully restored and highly correct early E-Type presents in immaculate condition." ?! as yo can read here www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=875256 Sorry to say that, but I know some people who can do a lot better, but how would you then describe a car with even all the original parts, and REALLY NO EXPANSE SPARED restoration? Why did they dare to put those repro louvers in, if it does not matter? Are you saying this OBL is the best you can get, "highly correct", "no expense spared"? Is that what you agree with? Sorry .... I know that not everyone has the sense or the money for originality, but let us be objective please. How would you act if someone is selling you printed painting as an original?

this guy surfers from E-OCD, I'd love him to be with me if I buy an E Type 🙄

I like e type as a drivable art, if you claim to be purist, it means you will never drive the e type, the car looks fantastic to own and to to drive, please don't make these nice cars as an assets, they build them for the public to enjoy not to hide them

@JaguarEType

Ай бұрын

Do not worry, there will still be plenty of E Type left for driving round, but we need to preserve some as authentic survivors and keep them somewhere save. I am happy to store them, but I am afraid there are other people who are thinking the same and offer more, just to have them in their collection, rather in my.

What about the cigarette lighter😱

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Early cars do have a different one, completely black with SMITH written on it.

Does it quack like a duck?

It either IS or it ISNT. .. this one isnt

When a classic car becomes a catalog of reproduction parts. Lost its soul forever…..😢

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Wisely said.

All sounds alot of money I knew guy in 80s bought 2 for 10k each

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

So, why did it cost 184.000 GBP to restore? And only sold for 184.000 € when is is so good?! Where is the trick? An OBL car for free ?!

Problem with Concourse cars is you can't drive them but only look at them in your heated garage. As soon as you drive them they are no longer pristine . Unless you spend hours and hours cleaning them every week, then yer wife leaves you. Ask me how I know 😅

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

You need 1 for collection and another one or two to drive. As simple as that.

@julesviolin

2 ай бұрын

That method would guarantee a divorce 😂

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Forgot to mention, your wife obviously needs her own OTS, matching shoes, handbag 👜 etc. including. Happy wife, happy life 😃

😂😂😂😂...trailer Queen wannabes in shock...just take a seat behind the wheel a drive it like you stole it...would you rather have broken cracked o.e.m. steering wheel or aftermarket....these cars are meant to be driven...for the owner pleasure,not some s.o.b. bragging around other s.o.b. how much original car is,I drive my 1750 gtv, daily,it has dings and scratches,so what? It was meant to be driven and enjoyed...

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

One or two for the road, another one for the collection.

ML your expertise on this car??? It sold for 182K euro. Only four owners and an in depth verifiable 183K restoration, yes there are aftermarket parts on it, but you should scratch your head after the baloney you spoke about. What a perfect buy this car is, for less than 10K you can have your authenticity; your originals are NOT 400 to 500K worth!!, but massively overprised, sorry but you are lost in this one!

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

Oh good, so you also agree that the "No expense-spared ..." is misleading in the description, as you say: " ..for less than 10 K you get it all right". And just as you confirm it has all the aftermarket parts on it, why do you agree to the description "... highly correct Jaguar E Type."? It also seems, that you are accusing RM Sothebys to indicate a wrong sales price on their website. You say it sold for 182.000 €. Why do they state 184.000 € ? I better stop here ...... we all understood your intention. rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/pa24/paris/lots/r0013-1961-jaguar-e-type-series-1-38-litre-roadster/1416086

Looks like your more interested in money than car. Boring investors. Witterin onn about the age of a bolt

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

150.000 € for the project car + 200.000 € for the restoration = 350.000 € Sales price now 184.000 € + fee. Where is the money interest? Who made the money here?

Over restored, too much shopping and not enough restoring.

@JaguarEType

3 ай бұрын

Short and precise

The whole classic car market is due and adjustment. Its kept inflated due to elderly, rich, bored men looking for something interesting to buy. Those men have been dying at a quicker rate due to covid, gout etc therefore there is a smaller customer base. New money young(er) people buy hideous new cars, they are - largely- not interested in old things from the 60's.

Cars are dropping in value because nobody wants them anymore. Those who are interested are "baby boomers" and they are a dying breed. Just like vintage cars have gone out of sight and don't really interest anyone, the same is happening to this era of cars. It's the big wheel of life. I feel sorry for all those men and women who thought they had put their money somewhere safe !!! I've heard people talking about these cars as "investments" LOL. Funniest thing is that all those using such language can afford them and have NO idea what an investment is. This is similar to the art market - it's all about the "hype" and that only impresses the baby boomers dwindling market share. Nobody else cares.

@JaguarEType

2 ай бұрын

I love the cars and I will always be owning and driving one. I would even add a Ferrari or Maserati to my collection .

@user-oe1mb9hu9i

2 ай бұрын

@@JaguarEType Happy for you mate. You do realise that prices just keep going up and therefore the longer you wait ...... Its the whole principle of hype. UNTIL people realise that it's all a joke and the bubble explodes. And it's showing definite signs of blowing out simply because there are fewer of you around. LOL. Why not take up collecting old sewing machines?